“This is not amnesty. This is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship”; The Latest Pandering From a President in a Tight Re-Election Campaign

President Obama explained his decision to selectively stop deporting certain illegal* immigrants, specifically, those under thirty who came into the country illegally before their 16th birthday, have no criminal record, and earned a high school diploma, saying “we are a better nation than one that expels innocent young kids” and calling beneficiaries of his exemption “talented, driven and patriotic young people” before being interrupted by a heckler. “Precisely because this is temporary,  Congress needs to act,” the president helpfully noted, pitching the DREAM Act and wider immigration reform once again.  

It’s hard to read this as anything but pandering;  Latino leaders in the Democratic Party have been warning that for immigrant communities being hurt by mass deportations the president’s failure on immigration reform resonates the most.

Despite the president’s protestations of politics getting in the way of the process on immigration policy, the phenomenon is old hat. President Bush’s efforts to reform immigration were likewise stymied, not just by members of his own party but by Democrats too. Barack Obama ought to remember that, he was there.  Since taking office in 2009, the president has made nary a move towards immigration reform, spending most of his domestic capital pushing through a deeply unpopular government healthcare reform scheme by the skin of its teeth that the Supreme Court may go ahead and overturn anyway.

Promising to take questions, the president ended up only responding to the heckler reporter who (says he mistakenly) interrupted.

Mike Riggs pointed out earlier the president’s decision is something he could do in the drug war, even though he says he can’t. Maybe pardons for those under 30?

Illegal immigrants who have been here since they were kids but turned 30 waiting for the president to act on immigration reform, alas, will have to keep waiting, more victims of this president’s deference to ad hoc governance over the rule of law. So much for “fairness”.

*Illegal entry into the United States is a misdemeanor.

More Reason on illegal immigrants.

Update: Pandering link courtesy commenter Sevo.

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  • Sevo||

    Purely by coincidence:
    "The step, to be carried out by the Department of Homeland Security, comes one week before Obama plans to address the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials' annual conference in Orlando, Fla."
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/......DTLtsp=1

  • Ed||

    Thanks I completely forgot that was happening next week

  • Sevo||

    It's an odds-on bet that Obama and Co. didn't.

  • Tuscaloosan||

    I'll do you one better: the announcement came out WHILE Alejandro Mayorkas - the head of USCIS - was presenting as part of the USCIS Open Forum at the American Immigration Lawyers Association conference. I truly wanted to stand up and ask the SOB if we were supposed to call our clients afterward and tell them to get their family members and friends to vote for the president in November.

  • Sevo||

    Give Ed a link; he'll love it! I do.
    Shame the guy didn't hand out voter registration forms with a marked-up sample ballot.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Will these noncitizens be allowed to vote? Apparently not wanting noncitizens to vote offends this government as well.

  • ||

    Update: Pandering link courtesy commenter Sevo.

    Mother 'f'er just got a hat tip.

    Enjoy it while it lasts...hope you choke on it.

  • Sevo||

    Thank ya! Thank ya vera much!
    (BTW, it's pronounced with a long "e", just to make sure you get it right when you tell your friends, as I'm sure you will.)

  • ned||

    The libertarian thing for Obama to do would be to continue to do nothing and pretend that there's no market failure in the demand and supply of foreign workers and immigration visas.

  • Sevo||

    ned|6.15.12 @ 8:37PM|#
    ..."pretend that there's no market failure in the demand and supply of foreign workers and immigration visas."

    Care to explain the 'market failure'?

  • R C Dean||

    before being interrupted by a heckler.

    Also known as a "reporter" asking a (tendentious, to be sure) question not on the approved list. Seriously, Ed, what do you have against reporters asking inconvenient questions of elected officials?

    "we are a better nation than one that expels innocent young kids”

    Unless they've been here less than five years, or aren't in school. Then, under this policy, out they go.

    And, of course, "young kids" apparently includes anyone up to the age of 30.

  • ||

    I don't think I can be accused of being an Obama supporter, and God knows this is obviously just pandering on his part, but that question wasn't just "inconvenient". It was nativist trolling, pure and simple.

  • Sevo||

    "And, of course, "young kids" apparently includes anyone up to the age of 30."

    Same AP source:
    "illegal immigrants will be immune from deportation if they were brought to the United States before they turned 16 and are younger than 30, have been in the country for at least five continuous years, have no criminal history, graduated from a U.S. high school or earned a GED or served in the military."

    Wanna bet a speeding ticket gets you the heave-ho? That way, he can pander to both sides.
    Hint: the reporters listening from the left heard an entirely different speech than the ones on the right. The guy's a pro, alright.

  • Atanarjuat||

    Wow, I didn't know illegal immigrants could serve in the military.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    While you don't have to be a citizen to serve in the U.S. military, you do have to be a legal immigrant. *shrugs*

  • R C Dean||

    If you're an illegal who lied your way into the military, wouldn't you be dishonorably discharged as soon as they found out?

    Is the amnesty available to dishonorably discharged vets?

    If an illegal managed to get a clean discharge because they never discovered he was lying, I presume we would be rewarding the successful commission of fraud against the government with amnesty?

  • ||

    "If you're an illegal who lied your way into the military, wouldn't you be dishonorably discharged as soon as they found out?"

    I thought so, too. Then I met several Marines who swore they jumped the border to get into the U.S. at an early age.

  • Mensan||

    "If you're an illegal who lied your way into the military, wouldn't you be dishonorably discharged as soon as they found out?"

    The maximum punishment for fraudulent enlistment is 2 years confinement, forfieture of all pay and allowances, and a Dishonorable discharge. However, that requires a court martial conviction. In reality, anyone facing a court martial on those charges will almost always opt for an Other Than Honorable administrative discharge in lieu of a court martial since a Dishonorable is equivalent to a felony conviction.

  • Tulpa the White||

    As desperate for recruits as the .mil seems these days, they'd probably look the other way.

  • Ed||

    It was the equivalent of asking the president whether he's beaten his wife lately. The most productive thing that could come out of a question like that is an opportunity for the president to repeat talking points. Nevertheless I've edited to reflect it was a reporter for those who don't click the link.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Has Neil Munro been audited by the IRS yet?

    If not, he soon will be.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    And, a quick call from Barry to Big Sis will insure Munro will be TSA-raped at the airports.

  • Almanian...still||

    "I jes need ta check ya assss hoe...."

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Tony's a TSA screener?

  • Brutus||

    Pro-bono. And I do mean bono.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I see what you did, there.

  • Almanian...still||

    Obama. What a fuckstick.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    If this is as far "left" as Obama is willing to take this one, Romney should just agree with him 100% and neuter the issue.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Either that, or somehow top it.

    And the only way Mitt could do Barry one better, would be to offer illegals free stuff... in which case, Mitt might as well switch to Team Blue.

  • june||

    And just how will he conclude that they came here before they were 16 yrs old. They are beginning to cross the border as I type.

  • Sevo||

    june|6.15.12 @ 5:38PM|#
    "And just how will he conclude that they came here before they were 16 yrs old."
    R C Dean|6.15.12 @ 5:57PM|#
    "Is the amnesty available to dishonorably discharged vets?"

    Yossarian is wondering, too.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Was he dishonorably discharged? I can't remember a danged thing from the sequel.

  • Sevo||

    Dunno, but he sure had a handle on the 'catches'.

  • ||

    He is AWOL...

    One assumes you would have to catch him before dishonorably discharging him.

  • ||

    Yossarian is wondering, too.

    Snowden isn't.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    The stupid... it burns...

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002812880

    The few sensible comments there, however, were most surprising.

  • ||

    I thought you promised no DU? I'm not clicking that link.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Sorry, I couldn't find enough vitriol on HuffPo. But I admit I only looked briefly.

    I forgot I promised that. My bad.

  • CE||

    Personally, I agree with Obama on this one, but as a campaign tactic it's almost as if he wants to fire up what had been a very unenthusiastic opposition party.

  • R C Dean||

    You agree with legislation via the executive, and selective law enforcement to favor interest groups?

  • Sevo||

    RC, can we shorten that to: 'Illegal pandering'?

  • Sevo||

    "Illegal immigrants who have been here since they were kids but turned 30 waiting for the president to act on immigration reform, alas, will have to keep waiting, more victims of this president’s deference to ad hoc governance over the rule of law..."

    Missed this earlier. Someone could make a living doing 'futures' on the pandering for the next audience.
    'Congress? What's that? L'état, c'est moi'

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Even when Obama does something you "libertarians" agree with he gets yelled out by the wingnuts here.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Why should we support Obama?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Oh, hey, while you're here... tell us how Obama is the Second Coming of Barry Goldwater.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    On second thought... just fucking die, shrike.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|6.15.12 @ 6:56PM|#
    "Even when Obama does something you "libertarians" agree with he gets yelled out by the wingnuts here."

    Yeah, shriek, worthless pandering is something libertarians *always* support.
    Dipshit.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    He's one to talk... I've lost count how many times the little bitch has endorsed Obama here.

  • Brutus||

    We know you'll storm in with enough cock-chugging for all of us, Shriek.

  • Bill||

    Just for being a hypocrite and waiting 3.5 years for his recent positions on gays and immigration until just before the election while still allowing people to be arrested for legal MJ. If he had addressed the drug war and Patriot Act and militarism, most here would be praising him for those things.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Hmm... guess shrike's mom called him up from the basement to help her find the little man in the boat.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Good fucking God... even Bill O'Reilly said Munro was "wrong".

    Then again, I never liked O'Reilly.

  • Brutus||

    I've been pretty busy with work lately. Did I miss the passage of the Enabling Act declaring the Swarthy Savior our Supreme Lawgiver?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    It happened back in November of 2008, but the paperwork wasn't finalized until January of '09.

  • Sevo||

    It's good to be king.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Unfortunately, unless there's a well-placed meteor strike, we'll either have King Barry or King Mittens... or Shit Sandwich vs Giant Douche.

  • Sevo||

    We can hope Team X hold the Pres office while Team Y hold a majority in Congress.
    And we can hope the Pres gets nailed with something that triggers an impeachment investigation.
    Hey, shriek claims Clinton was the last Pres in office to show a 'surplus' (but then shriek is entirely too stupid to know why).

  • ||

    “This is not amnesty. This is not immunity.

    You people are just confused. If you use "secret interpretations," then the cocksucker in chief is using those words correctly.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    "You people"

    RAAAAAACIIIST!!!ONE!e1eventy!!!1

  • BMFPitt||

    So if you were brought here at 2 years old and you're 31, GTFO?

  • Sevo||

    Hey, you think Obama has any desire to do other than a PR move?
    Yep, GTFO! Parking ticket? GTFO!

  • ||

    What if you're a legal immigrant with a temporary visa but are getting fucked over by our retarded INS bureaucracy? Do the many people in that situation, some of whom I know personally, get any sympathy from King Barack after spending a fortune paying an immigration lawyer to get through the INS red tape?

  • WangoTang||

    Well now that makes a whole lot of sense dude.

    www.Anony-Net.tk

  • Proprietist||

    Tiggy, if you can hear me this handle is definitely a winner. Please keep.

  • WangoTang||

    Well now that makes a whole lot of sense dude.

    www.Anony-Net.tk

  • Tulpa the White||

    My bet is that this policy will suddenly be retracted on a Wednesday in November. Guess which one?

  • Proprietist||

    It's all very simple. The fact that he started courting his base instead of the center is a sign that he knows he's going to lose.

    While I certainly support the recent changes towards gay marriage and not deporting people who have been here since childhood as well as the hints of a potential change on federal marijuana enforcement, they seem to be plays to get enough of the idealistic youth voters who voted for him last time to show up instead of staying home. Also, in the likelihood he loses, they're trying to make sure his legacy looks "cool" and not like the utter failure of both liberal social values and economic common sense it really was.

  • Wiregrass||

    Not amnesty, Not immunity. He never tires of polishing turds, does he?

  • Gilbert Martin||

    What Constitutional authority does the executive branch have to deliberatly decide it's going to selectively enforce laws?

  • Mr. Gondo||

    Of course it's pandering--but his pandering to the victims of this nation's stupidity, while the GOP (with some exceptions, such as Rubio) is pandering just as hard to the great mass of all-American morons. Did you not just see the same GOP primary season I did? Short of cross-burning, I don't know what more this noble bunch of candidates could have done to be as hateful as possible in appealing to the know-nothings.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Here's an idea... politicians that DON'T pander.

    I know, we don't have flying cars, either. But a guy can dream.

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