Iowa GOP Debate Open Thread and Possible Live-Blogging!

What the hell, let's live-blog this, the 427th debate of the GOP presidential nominating season. If Dr. Congressman Disco Brotherman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is to land that longshot haymaker, this is the state where it really has to happen. Start your commenting now, and let's see what happens!

Take Reason's candidate dating quiz here, and damn it, donate to our annaul Webathon!

9:02: Famous journalist salutes politicians for being brave enough to run for president. DRINK!

9:05: Roger Ebert predicts a Paul victory in Iowa.

9:06: Diane Sawyer (wisely) asks for "distinguishing" characteristic on economic plan. Romney (unwisely) repeats same old seven-point plan.

9:07: "Malinvestment"! DRINK!

9:08: "That is the culprit: big spending and big government." Paul closes well.

9:10: Ann Coulter: "Luckily, none of the candidates have Clinton's 'distinguishing characteristic.'" Funny cuz it's TRUE.

9:10: Wait, did Bachmann just say "one of my win points"?

9:13: Santorum, as he always does, answers at least one question very well: No, he can't promise the number of jobs he'll creat.

9:15: Katrina Trinko: "Glad Cain and Huntsman are out so there's enough time for Sawyer to get everything in she wants to say."

9:17: Where's Gary Johnson? Gary Johnson is on Twitter.

9:18: Lucy Steigerwald is heckling me.

9:23: First real exchange between Romney and Gingrich tragically drowned out by my three-year-old girl wishing me good night and suggesting I slam my head against the bookcase. #mixedsignals. Also, Gingrich seems to be routing Romney's attacks, however.

9:25: Ron Paul hits Newkular square in the Ta-tas on Freddie Mac.

9:28: Crowd stone-cold laughs at Gingrich's contention that his Freddie consulting was "in the private sector." It's really the right response to Newt Gingrich, in all instances.

9:33: Every time Mitt Romney campaigns to Obama's left on cutting Medicare, a little fairy rises up from my wine glasses and finishes my joke.

9:35: Romney always lies his face off when he talks about how he didn't want Romneycare to be applied to the federal bureaucracy, BTW.

9:37: Romney bets Perry $10,000. For once, I hope that's illegal.

9:40: Timothy P. Carney: "Regular Americans make $10,000 bets, right?"

9:42: Katrina vanden Heuvel: "And could moderators follow up when Ron Paul raises smart + transpartisan points--like why are we spending $billions on wars and bases/." Forget about the content there for a moment, and dwell on the syntax. SHE WRITES LIKE THAT EVERY DAY. It's fascinating.

9:45: Ron Paul hasn't talked in what, 25 minutes?

9:49: "Even stronger than a handshake in Texas." DRINK! Also, marital fidelity is more important to Rick Perry than learning how to pronounce it.

9:51: "I don't think we should have to talk about it," Ron Paul says, about fidelity, and then pivots wisely: "What about your oath of office?" Good applause paragraph!

9:54: Jesse Walker: "Cheers to Ron Paul, who managed to turn a question about Newt Gingrich's penis into a libertarian stump speech."

9:55: Gingrich sez "I've had to go to God for forgiveness." I'm not an expert on this stuff, but isn't going to God a privilege or something?

9:57: Gingrich: "I think we should make deportation dramatically easier." Also, English the official language. He is the big immigration softie, BTW.

9:59: Romney continues to try to claim the most hard-ass GOP position on immigration, even while he tries to claim the most soft-ass position on Medicare. 0 for 2, as far as I'm concerned. Though I think we can all agree that Diane Sawyer is a monster.

10:01: Rick Perry should n-e-v-e-r say the phrase "that clearly say..."

10:03: My wife, with a knowing, forlorn look: "It's 10 o'clock on a Saturday night, and you're live-blogging the Republican debate." DONATE, PEOPLE!

10:06: John Podhoretz: "I'm all for having candidates praise Israel, but Newt on Palestinians should not be the first foreign policy question."

10:08: Newt: "I spoke as a historian." Romney actually had a good retort to that one.

10:09: There is an insufficient amount of Teddy Roosevelt bashing in this debate. Also, Bachmann is talking about her kibbutz summer. DRINK BECHEROVKA.

10:11: Can an expert on stimulants assess Romney's mile-a-minute, teeth-grinding performance?

10:18: Roger Stone: "Newt leads at 3/4 mark. Romney flop sweat showing. Rick Perry, Ron Paul crazy Michelle and little Ricky irrelevant."

10:21: Rick Perry: "My Social Security has a zero in 1978." Bro, I've got nearly a whole decade that looks like that. Also, I can complete a sentence now and again.

10:23: Greg Gutfeld: "Okay, Next question: have you ever invited a homeless man over for dinner?"

10:24: Yes, Ron Paul moved from the question of personal poverty to monetary policy in roughly three sentences. #commitment

10:27: Kyle Smith: "Rick Santorum: Vote for me, I had both a mother and a father. Special!"

10:28: Oh hold on, Bachmann pronounces it KEW-pawn?? That's almost as bad as Newt Gingrich talking about his hands-on struggles as a small businessman.

10:29: Either Ron Paul is live-Tweeting from the podium, or he has some other human Tweeting under his name. JUST LIKE A POLITICIAN.

10:31: A "fundamentally rethink" from Newt. DRINK ROBITUSSIN.

10:32: Great, succinct answer from Ron Paul about government protecting you from itself. And now is talking about government as "force."

10:35: Michael Steele: "Paul: "You're in big trouble if you need the government to protect you from yourself." #iowadebate. True that Brotha!"

10:41: Rick Santorum is the only candidate I like more than I did at the beginning of this campaign. I do not know how to feel about this.

10:42: Rick Perry gives a generous shout-out to Paul's work on the Federal Reserve. Did not see that coming.

10:44: Mitt Romney singles out Ron Paul in his closing statement. You could see it as a generous pat on the head downward, or you could see it as Romney knowing that he's competing against Ron Paul in Iowa. I'll take the latter.

10:45: If we do survive, it will be because of Rick Santorum?

10:46: Nice close from the Disco Brotherman. Tolerance, bitches!

10:50: Oh! It's over. Thank God. You like this kind of thing? Please donate! And with that, good night, and thanks for commenting!

Editor's Note: We invite comments and request that they be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of Reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment for any reason at any time.

  • voxpo| |

    Newt: "An American energy plan." Isn't a govt. Plan itself a giant bundle of regulations?

  • | |

    This is like the worst chat room ever.

  • Anthony Weiner| |

    How ya doin'?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    I was just thinking, you know what the GOP hasn't done in a few days? And here we are.

  • Gannicus| |

    "9:02: Famous journalist salutes politicians for being brave enough to run for president. DRINK!"

    Done and done.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Give the lady a damn number.

  • Jerry| |

    Newt: "I worked with Clinton..."

  • Realist| |

    Newt means he worked on Clinton. He had to fight Monica to gobble his knob!

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    Forget that, where are we on the $$ collection for a Steigerwald-written profile of STEVE SMITH for the webathon?

  • Lucy Steigerwald| |

    I am feeling an indescribable mixture of terror and intrigue right now.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    You can safely discard intrigue and focus on the other one.

  • Lucy Steigerwald| |

    Will do.

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    This has to be done. We must donate and put "For the STEVE SMITH profile" in the "Enter your comments, suggestions, or questions here" box.

    Yes. We. Can!

  • | |

    R. Paul got to go third because he's running third. Woo-hoo!

  • | |

    R Perry is running on R Paul's coattails. Ye-ahhh boy-ee!

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Diane is getting mad because she's not getting an exact figure.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    JOBZ DAMMIT!!

  • voxpo| |

    Win Win Win? Ugh.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Beats "Win Lose or Draw"

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Government creates jobs. Where have I heard that before?

  • | |

    Michele Bachman: 9-9-9 is bad. "Win, win, win" instead! Huh?!?

  • voxpo| |

    Yeah, anybody else want to make a stupid promise?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    If you love Newt's answer so much, why don't you just marry it, Diane?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Is Diane Sawyer sleep-moderating right now?

  • Jerry| |

    LOL, Bachmann believes there is such thing as a social security trust fund.

  • Al Gore| |

    It's a lock box.

  • Vinz Clortho| |

    I am the keymaster!

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Romney is a nice Syracuse shade of orange this evening.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    Newt is a wiggling, bloated maggot who has been feeding on the body of the American taxpayer for 20 years and he's STILL at it. Someone needs to step on him. I just needed to get that out of my system.

  • | |

    Don't hold back. Let the hate flow through you.

    Besides, you're right.

  • BigT| |

    Ok, he's only infinitely better than Obama, not infinity squared.

  • juris imprudent| |

    I think the word you were looking for is "marginally".

  • asdf| |

    There's a difference between Newt and Obama? What is it?

  • Amakudari| |

    Either wife or melanin count.

  • Realist| |

    Newt makes insane McCain look sane.
    If elected we will be at war with everyone. He is a dumb ass warmonger.

  • | |

    remove better and replace with worse and you would be correct

  • | |

    M. Bachman: I'm for conserving high payroll taxes.

    Nevertheless, I want to make a baby with her.

  • voxpo| |

    Gary Johnson is live-Tweeting the debate. https://twitter.com/#!/GovGaryJohnson Unfortunately, he's become a Fair Taxer...as a last-ditch effort, I suspect. Can't blame him too much, but I wonder if he'll drop that if he runs as a Libertarian.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    God bless Stephy for interrupting Ron Paul as he's answering your question.

  • | |

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Romney's going to struggle to think of a third disagreement, isn't he?

  • Apatheist| |

    mining on the moon?

    Romney processor malfunctioned.

  • SIV| |

    Gary who? And what does he have to do with the GOP candidates?

  • voxpo| |

    > SIV|12.10.11 @ 9:21PM|#
    Gary who? And what does he have to do with the GOP candidates?

    Johnson. Not much.

  • | |

    God, Newt is obese. That fat fuck.

  • Realist| |

    And very little of it is brain weight!

  • voxpo| |

    Mitt: Newt wants to make kids mine minerals on the moon?!

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Is this going to be the Mitt and Newt Show?

  • Apatheist| |

    If it continues to be this entertaining I'm all for it.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Newt Gingrich is replacing janitors with student labor?

  • Apatheist| |

    With Lunan child labor.

  • voxpo| |

    I gotta say that was a nice recovery by Romney.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Try Newt's Hypocrisy Cereal. Is it like Sugar tits?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Ron Paul drops the housing bomb on Newt.

  • obijuan| |

    He was a historian dammit!

  • The Angry RPh| |

    Yeah. He just threw down.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Holy shit, working for Freddy Mac is the private sector?

  • The Angry RPh| |

    At least the "rebuttal" drew some laughter.

  • BigT| |

    Who cares that he made money consulting for Freddie. WHAT did he recommend? Let's see the memos.

  • Maxxx| |

    Kinda like the Olympics being private sector.

  • Gannicus| |

    Newt's lobbying money apparently buys a lot of food.

    Those Titties are indeed Newcular.

  • Ed Teller| |

    Thank you for sparing me the waste of time to watch this debate.. or I might have to go Newcular on you

  • | |

    I don't care if Newt is fat. What I despise him for is his repugnant power-grubbing ambition.

    -jcr

  • voxpo| |

    Bachman's Lemonade Stand, Inc.??

  • | |

    M. Bachman knows how to translate things in snappy, pithy English ("The Rodeo Drive of Washington DC").

  • Jerry| |

    Giving strategic advice to a government agency is working in the private sector. That's true Newtspeak.

  • Apatheist| |

    pwned

    Gingrich is gonna take a raping tonight but it looks like he has plenty of cushioning.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Stop piling on Newt and Mitt. It just gives them more air time to rebutt!

  • | |

    "Newt Romney!"

  • Doktor Kapitalism| |

    Funny thing is, it took me a second to get it...

  • Nute Romney| |

    I'm the best coach Notre Dame never had.

  • Newt Romney| |

    d'oh

  • MM| |

    Hi! My name is.. (what?) My name is.. (who?)
    My name is.. Newt Romney
    Hi! My name is.. (huh?) My name is.. (what?)
    My name is.. Newt Romney

    Ahem.. excuse me!
    Can I have the attention of the class for one second?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Yes, but where was Mitt Gingrich on those issues?

  • Apatheist| |

    I see Gingrich is going to the lying strategy. Why not?

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    We must donate and put "For the STEVE SMITH profile" in the "Enter your comments, suggestions, or questions here" box.

    Yes. We. Can!

  • Robert| |

    First I'd like to thank the real Steve Smith for being such a good sport.

  • Apatheist| |

    Um so since he made plenty of money elsewhere it's ok for him to soak the taxpayers?

  • flacid tuna| |

    I predict a Bachmann surge.

  • Geoff Peterson| |

    In your pants.

  • Apatheist| |

    Did you see Paul's smirk at the tempest he's stirred up? And Bachmann stepped in to take the backlash. Delicious.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    So, Romneycare for each state?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    I'm stunned, too. I didn't know Perry was even there.

  • Apatheist| |

    Perry doesn't have anything between his ears to be stunned.

  • ¢| |

    Newt is a wiggling, bloated maggot who has been feeding on the body of the American taxpayer for 20 years and he's STILL at it.

    HEY NOW

    Newt's been feasting on the blood of the peasants since the '70s, not the '90s.

    And pictures of '70s Newt all look like they should be captioned "Co-Founder of the Greater Portland Queer/Questioning Noise Collective."

  • flacid tuna| |

    Perry needed to speak more forcefully.

  • voxpo| |

    Hey Mitt, how does the 10th Amendment apply to drug laws?

  • | |

    This!

    Alas, Ron Paul isn't enough of an ass-hole in interjecting when he isn't asked questions...

  • flacid tuna| |

    Perry is wearing a pink shirt.

  • BigT| |

    First thing you learn - never wear white on TV. You look washed out.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Newt is an idea man. Don't blame him for ideas.

  • Apatheist| |

    Local H town news: corrupt former survivor contestant and Sheila Jackson Lee admirer is losing here runoff election for city council.

  • Apatheist| |

    missed putting in her name: Jolanda Jones.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    Did Newt just mention libertarians? With no trace of irony?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Rich guys betting. Enjoy, voters.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    That was unseemly.

  • | |

    Unseemly, maybe, but wouldn't we be better off if the political class and commentariat started putting their money where their mouth is?

  • veemee sashimi| |

    Rick Perry is amusing in an oafish sort of way.

  • juris imprudent| |

    If Rick Perry were to win, Will Farrell would make a fortune.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    I'm about to go Sandi on this whole operation.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Mitt Romney wipes his ass with $10,000 bills.

  • Apatheist| |

    Does it matter if Romney says he supports a federal Romney care or not? The point is that it shows that he has bad ideas about the role of government no matter the level of government.

  • Jerry| |

    So they are clones!

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Well, Pro Lib got his alt-text, and he's not even here.

  • Apatheist| |

    Uncancel my subscription!

  • | |

    I just saw it and made my Newcular Titties payment. Thanks to Matt for hearing our pleas!

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Apparently they're whoring themselves out pretty good for donations. We should be making some really unfortunate demands.

  • | |

    Perhaps a more prominent Newcular Titties posting?

  • Apatheist| |

    I'll be very upset if Santorum and Perry don't get to talk about teh GAYZ tonight.

  • Jerry| |

    The gang of 7?

  • veemee sashimi| |

    INVOKED!!

    Someone invoke Cthulhu please.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Rick Santorum's answer made me think. Why is Rick Santorum still in this race?

  • Apatheist| |

    Somebody needs to fight for the suppressed Christians in the country!

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    It's Love, Love
    Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show
    Pack up the babies
    Grab the old ladies
    Everyone goes
    Everyone knows
    Brother Love's show

  • flacid tuna| |

    Bachmann winning the debate.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    MSM: Bachmann helps Romney.

  • voxpo| |

    I'd like to see a commercial for gay marriage now. ;)

  • BigT| |

    The NYT?? Do they think they'll attract customers from this audience? No wonder they're going broke.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Fred Thompson for President! His platform? Reverse mortgage your children's future.

  • voxpo| |

    I concede defeat. : )

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    I wasn't sure we all see the same commercials.

  • O'Bama| |

    It works for me

  • voxpo| |

    Hey, Fred Thompson's in the...oh, that's a commercial for reverse mortgages.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Chins up Newt, it's early.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Mitt "moneybags" Romney. 10,000 dollar bet.

  • voxpo| |

    Neat, replays. They should show the one where Mitt thumped Newt on the forehead.

  • Fred Thompson| |

    As a staunch conservative and former GOP presidential candidate, I want to take this opportunity to tell you about your chance to suckle from the government tit.

  • Apatheist| |

    Alright donation done. Thanks for 7 years of free content that played a large part in me becoming a libertarian. Keep up the good work.

  • | |

    Nice work. Those apples weren't going to polish themselves.

    (I keed! I keed!)

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    If the debate's a-rockin'...

  • Ron Paul| |

    I hope I get my 89 seconds tonight.

  • Dello| |

    YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH WHEN NEWT GINGRICH IS TALKING, BITCH!!!

  • Robert| |

    My whore mouth is furry open legaldress.

  • Robert| |

    Engrish, not Ginglich!

  • BoscoH| |

    Are morons really Christians?

  • Apatheist| |

    Idiocy is universal.

  • voxpo| |

    Let us bow our heads in prayndering.

  • Name Nomad| |

    9:45: Ron Paul hasn't talked in what, 25 minutes?

    Well, Gary Johnson hasn't gotten to talk in about seven months.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Let's see, at who is this marital vow question aimed...

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Ask Mitt how many wives he's allowed.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Infidel, say it, Rick.

  • | |

    i'll bet mitt $10,000 he doesn't get the nomination

  • Mitt| |

    I am now also not in the business of betting.

  • Apatheist| |

    Should frothy anal leakage be a factor in who you vote for?

  • O'Bama| |

    Put a plug up your ass and get to the polls.

  • voxpo| |

    "Iowanna be President"

  • beezle| |

    RP taking the high road on the Newt-fidelity.. damn RP on a roll!

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    RON PAUL IS NOT ANSWERING THE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION ABOUT INFIDELITY.

  • Apatheist| |

    Fantastic answer by Paul.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    I he was sorta reaching when he started turning the question to something he wanted to say, but he finished pretty strong. Well done.

  • veemee sashimi| |

    jeez, Romney looks like an oompa loompa.

  • Willie Wonka| |

    Oompa Loompas are decent, hard-working people. How dare you insult them like that.

  • | |

    Michele Bachman is just making shit up about the Federalist Papers.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Bachmann's husband is ready to break into song.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Bachmann has the audience by the balls.

  • voxpo| |

    That's okay Michelle, I apologize on your behalf.

  • Apatheist| |

    Being a Christian really distinguishes you from all the other Presidents and current candidates Bachmann. Way to go!

  • flacid tuna| |

    It distinguishes her from Romney.

  • Apatheist| |

    The are Mormons Christian question is not one I give two shits about.

  • Jesus Christ| |

    There's only one Christian on that stage.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Caption should say Current wife of Newt

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    "Future Ex-wife"

  • | |

    Newclear Tit-ttayz is too hot not to fuck his Congressional AIDS.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    Newt: I'm so glad that a significant number of idiots are willing to overlook my bullshit.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Diane Sawyer wants to secure the borders?

  • voxpo| |

    Can't believe Callista Flockhart divorced Harrison Ford for Newt Gingrich.

  • Apatheist| |

    Bachmann makes tuna turgid apparently.

  • Newt| |

    I only cheated on my wives because I love America so much.

  • | |

    Chicken-hawk Gingrich is now for the Draft Board?

  • Apatheist| |

    Slavery is best applied at the local level.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    3 days?

  • voxpo| |

    Aggghhh, don't mention David "Made In America" Muir!

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Uh-oh. Romney is going to deport Santorum.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Where is Huntsman?

  • voxpo| |

    Deported.

  • Apatheist| |

    In case you wanted a serious answer: his poll numbers in Iowa were too low to qualify so he's in NH.

  • Jerry| |

    It should be an advantage to Paul that he doesnt like desperate in this debate, like Perry, Bachmann & Sanctorum.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Cheers to Jesse Walker for using "Newt Gingrich's penis" and "stump" in the same sentence.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    What just happened to Perry? Was there a glitch in the matrix?

  • voxpo| |

    Gee, Rick, you mean they don't even tag those illegals before releasing them?

  • Rick Perry| |

    At any moment I'm susceptible to complete vapor lock.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Bring back the Ottoman empire!

  • Crazy Newt's Furniture Outlet| |

    And what great foot rests they made!!

  • O'Bama| |

    You mean the Obama empire.

  • Newt| |

    Enough lying! About whatever.

    I've certainly done enough.

  • Apatheist| |

    Um wow, is Romney being kind of sensible here? My head asplode.

  • Apatheist| |

    Also, I'd prefer if RP not even have to talk about this stuff (even though I agree with him). Thank God Romney took the attention away from him. I have no doubt that this is a calculated move my him. He thinks that Paul should be left alone for now thinking that he can beat him one on one later (probably right).

  • flacid tuna| |

    All people are invented people.

  • Michelle| |

    Conceived or fostered, not invented.

  • Apatheist| |

    We think therefore we aren't

  • Jerry| |

    If Gingrich wants to go back to 1921 treaties, how about giving the Kurds a homeland?

  • flacid tuna| |

    That's different.

  • Jerry| |

    You don't just get to pick and choose in history, even if you are supposedly a historian like Newt.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    Romney better get backstage and get himself cleaned off. That's how Shirley Eaton died, you know.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Newt Gingrich is running for president of Israel.

  • veemee sashimi| |

    Will somebody stand up and say that Americans more than most are an invented people?

  • flacid tuna| |

    That's racist.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Did Mitt say he doesn't do anything to harm the process of bombing Israel?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Bachmann wasn't listening.

  • Jerry| |

    Wait, Bachmann was in a kibbutz, so she's a secret socialist?

  • Apatheist| |

    Bachmann knows how to use a photocopier. Put her in the White House!

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Okay, Santorum needs to jump in and say that his savior was a Jew. One-upmanship!

  • voxpo| |

    Bachmannbot launches praise Israel subroutine.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Wasting too much time on Israel question.

  • Rick Perry| |

    Heh, heh. I said 'rear.'

  • El Commentariosa| |

    You know who else had a solution for the jewish people?

  • | |

    ouch

  • | |

    ouch

  • Fluffy| |

    If they aren't Palestinians, then they're Israelis.

    And that would create a whole host of NEW moral problems for the state of Israel.

    Israel's much, MUCH better off if "Palestinians" are actually, you know, real.

    And even if Palestinians didn't exist in 1948, that's over 60 years ago. Did "Americans" exist by, say, the presidency of James K. Polk, or were we still just "invented"? When the Marines were storming Veracruz, did the Mexicans say, "There is no such thing as an American"?

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Tell me about it. Papa Drax, a Christian Palestinian, would probably be able to get some sort of restitution from Israel if he was actually considered an Israeli (Democracy my ass).

  • | |

    Fluffy, i think the argument is as such, that the Palestinians are really Jordanians. Thus they have no claim to Israeli citizenship, no land.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Too bad Cain isn't here to answer 999 on Israel.

  • Apatheist| |

    Perry: the problems in the middle east started 3 years ago!

    Jesus Titty Fucking Christ

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Rick Perry should not use the word "three".

  • voxpo| |

    "our highly technical equipment"
    heehee

  • flacid tuna| |

    So we were supposed to go to war with Iran over an unmanned drone?

  • Apatheist| |

    One that we put there. See how easy it is?

  • Dumb Question Alert!!| |

    When we come back!!

  • Apatheist| |

    Actually I'm interested in seeing Romney and Gingrich answer that question.

  • MC Ahmadinejad| |

    Ize got your drone bitches!

  • BigT| |

    Iirc wasn't Palestine a protectorate of Great Britain?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki....._Palestine

    So Palestinian is no more invented than Iowan.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Why do you hate Israel?

  • Jerry| |

    And weren't Zionists at that time working with these Palestines to make sure the Christians stay out of Israel?

  • Maxxx| |

    No.

  • Cytotoxic| |

    The term 'Palestinian' is mostly an Arab propaganda talking point to legitimize the destruction of Israel. There wasn't much or any mention of 'Palestinians' prior to 1967.

  • Heroic Mulatto| |

    The term 'Palestinian' is mostly an Arab propaganda talking point to legitimize the destruction of Israel. There wasn't much or any mention of 'Palestinians' prior to 1967.

    More like '64, actually.

  • Cytotoxic| |

    Hmm, interesting to see how transparent they were. Same difference.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    10:03: My wife, with a knowing, forlorn look: "It's 10 o'clock on a Saturday night, and you're live-blogging the Republican debate." DONATE, PEOPLE!

    How is donating going to stop the missus from tapping her foot? How are you using these donations?

  • voxpo| |

    2 for 1:
    Is that Newt on that Viking boat?
    Do we really need a Lunesta after this debate?

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    10:11: Can an expert on stimulants assess Romney's mile-a-minute, teeth-grinding performance?

    Unlike Obama's stimulus, the ones Romney are taking evidently work.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Last time on I'm an Asshole and I Can Prove It...

  • Fluffy| |

    Welch, being editor of Reason is a 24/7 position, like being Queen.

  • | |

    Or like General Manager of a big league baseball team!

    Okay. GM of a little league team, but still!

  • | |

    I kid because I love, Matt.

  • Apatheist| |

    What this thread really needs is for Southerner to come give us his opinion on Israel and link to where he "raped" us.

  • | |

    Question of the Night:

    Who really speaks for BiBi Netan-Yahoo! ?

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Do the commercial breaks for this fiasco feel like some sort of play-by-play half-time to the rest you guys?

  • El Commentariosa| |

    ABC has to make up for its loss of NFL somehow

  • | |

    Andrew, 32, in Texas is a cunt.

    That is all.

  • Ken Schultz's sandy vag| |

    Shut your goddamn mouth!

  • Anonymous| |

    Perry is hilarious. I can't wait until he comes home to us in atx. He has that fantastic bush smile.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Well, Newt had to give up Ohio since he couldn't afford the luxury of getting signatures.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    THEY ARE THE 99%!

  • voxpo| |

    Perry Pan!

  • | |

    R. Perry was so awesome in Top Gun.

  • Apatheist| |

    Yeah that volleyball scene was awesome. Too bad it was too hot for him to wear his Brokeback Mountain jacket.

  • Apatheist| |

    Somebody with Rick Perry's background could give a great answer to that question. That someone is not Perry.

  • Fluffy| |

    I think Newt pulled it out in Ohio.

    And no, I don't mean he met wife # 4 there. I mean he managed to get on the ballot after all.

  • | |

    M. Romney looks like a Ken-doll made off of ham.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    We need to get Mrs. Paul to pay off the national debt.

  • flacid tuna| |

    Paul was forced to pimp his wife out to pay for medical school.

  • voxpo| |

    Well, there goes my theory that Santorum was built in a lab by graduate students.

  • | |

    WTF kind of grad students would create slippery, frothy, gooey Rick Santorum?

  • Maxxx| |

    Jesuits.

  • | |

    Ron Paul: Until we replace public school lessons on A. Lincoln with ones on L. v. Mises, we're ass-fucked.

  • What's| |

    Wrong with that?

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Fuck you Santorum, you semeny Vaseline shitty discharge.

  • Santorum| |

    Thanks for noticing

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Rick Santorum wisely pivots to anti-single parenting.

  • The Angry RPh| |

    First it was who is more religious, now it's who was the poorest? WTF?

  • Fluffy| |

    Paul didn't actually talk about Lincoln, did he?

    Please tell me he didn't do that.

  • | |

    No, no. I was just flappin' gums, cousin.

  • Fluffy| |

    Don't scare me like that!

  • Ron Paul| |

    I knew Lincoln. Lincoln was a friend of mine . During the Depression.

  • Doktor Kapitalism| |

    Joe Biden, you so funny!

  • Doktor Kapitalism| |

    Joe Biden, you so funny!

  • flacid tuna| |

    Did Ron Paul say he grew up in the Depression?

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Yep, he's old, but he could run a mile faster than my dumbass.

  • Apatheist| |

    he did

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Michele Bachmann: Dumbass tax payers.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Bachmann's parents were divorced. That explains it all.

  • voxpo| |

    My recollection is that the big banks were not given the option of not taking TARP money.

  • | |

    Many were given the option.

  • Michelle| |

    I turned tricks at 13

  • Fluffy| |

    Bachmann was probably hot at 18.

    Heck, I'd probably still hit it NOW.

  • | |

    Probably?

    I might sleep with her over S. Palin. Truth.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    You know she could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.

  • Michelle| |

    I hope you like my flannel long johns

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Oh, I do, you mid-western nutcase, I do.

  • Apatheist| |

    Man Marcus is really really gay.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Newt: I was born a poor black child.

  • Apatheist| |

    He fed from his own tits

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Too bad they aren't getting their feedback from Hit'n'run. Yeah that's right, fuck you Stehpie!

  • | |

    Mitt comes out for cannabis deregulation!!!

  • | |

    state by state, you know.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    States can choose to ram through the Bill of Rights if they so choose...

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Could Congress compel us to buy your bullshit, Newt?

  • Apatheist| |

    Radioactive breast milk for all!

  • El Commentariosa| |

    I've switched to Alone In the Wilderness.
    Dick Proenneke for President.

  • Berr| |

    I'm pretty sure he's dead. But Alone in the Wilderness is fucking awesome. Especially the old-school flat-back Grumman he paddles around in near freezing water.

  • El Commentariosa| |

    Do you have to be alive to be president? Is that in the constitution?

  • juris imprudent| |

    If the Repubs had the technology they'd be running Re-animated Reagan in a heartbeat.

  • Cytotoxic| |

    At this point I wish they were.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Newt Gingrich, collecting lobbying fees since 1974.

  • | |

    I'm only half paying attention, did Newt actually describe the 10th Amendment as a "barrier" to what it is he wants to do?

  • | |

    Newclear Tittayz be talkin' bout people need to take care of themselves?

    Fat-ass, heal thyself!

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Federal Government: we are here to protect you from yourselves, you dumb bastards.

  • Fluffy| |

    It would be great if Paul actually was tweeting from the platform.

    That's what I'd do if I was up there. I'd have my phone out and between questions I'd be trash talking about Newt's answers.

  • | |

    Rick Perry be tryin' to take Ron Paul's popularity!!!

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Too bad he's a dumb piece of shit who obviously is jumping on the bandwagon.

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    "Okay, Next question: have you ever invited a homeless man over for dinner?"

    ITS A COOKBOOK!!!!!!

  • Apatheist| |

    "Government is force" in a Republican debate. Awesome.

  • Fluffy| |

    Newt couldn't fundamentally think his way into a Congressional aide's pants.

    Well, OK, maybe THAT he could do...

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    I was hoping Branstad was heckling Perry.

  • Donna Brazille| |

    I'm here for a paycheck, but let me tell you, I'd like all you fuckers hung for thinking you deserve to keep your money. You Santorum-esque fuckers.

  • LuLu Rockwell| |

    We IS Hung.

  • Heroic Mulatto| |

    Oh hold on, Bachmann pronounces it KEW-pawn

    How else are you supposed to pronounce it?

  • Fluffy| |

    Coo-pon.

  • Heroic Mulatto| |

    That pronunciation just stinks of hypercorrection to me.

  • Fluffy| |

    I have never cared which pronunciation was in the dictionary. "Kew-pawn" just galls me because it sounds like the way it would be pronounced if it was in a "Designing Women" script.

  • PantsFan| |

    and how does one pronounce issue or tissue? I hope you don't make the sh sound.

  • Fluffy| |

    No, I make the sh sound.

    And I put the k in schedule.

    I'm not frickin' MADONNA over here or something.

  • PantsFan| |

    I am disappoint.

  • PantsFan| |

    I am disappoint.

  • Heroic Mulatto| |

    "Kew-pawn" just galls me because it sounds like the way it would be pronounced if it was in a "Designing Women" script.

    This is for you.

  • juris imprudent| |

    Like Ron White's wife "cup-un".

  • Pope Jimbo| |

    I'm with you.

    I can only pray that Matt doesn't go to Sunny Minnesota if that pronunciation hurts his ears. That is how I hear everyone say it in these here parts.

    Of course, we are nice people. We'll give him a KEW-pawn for 50% off his next pop.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    What are you guys drinking tonight? I'm about 6 bottles deep with New Belgium Ranger IPAs.

  • | |

    "What are you guys drinking tonight?"

    Before the debate: Coca Cola
    After the debate: Drain Cleaner

  • BigT| |

    Anderson Valley Winter Solstice Ale

  • Apatheist| |

    I started with a Yeti Imperial stout big bottle and am no a couple Real Ale Coffee Porters in. Needless to say I'm pretty tanked.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    I've just cracked open the Shiner Holiday Ales.

    Is there anything more Libertarian-esque than micro-brews?

  • mad libertarian guy| |

    Moonshine.

  • | |

    Oaked Yeti Stout is the shit!

  • Fluffy| |

    Dunaghy's Sparkling White Wine.

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    Some random crap Cab I got at the grocery store. Newt isn't worth better.

  • chris| |

    Good taste there. Missed the debate. Went out and shot pool. Miller Lite on tap 'cause its still better than water.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    HFS, Chiaobama?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Diana Sawyer: Can't we all get along?

    Candidates: Yes, to deport Mexicans.

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    Everywhere around the world
    They're coming to America
    Every time that flag's unfurled
    They're coming to America

    Got a dream to take them there
    They're coming to America
    Got a dream they've come to share
    They're coming to America

    They're coming to America
    They're coming to America
    They're coming to America
    They're coming to America
    Today, today, today, today, today

  • chris| |

    Can we all get along? Hippie shit is what is killing America, Diane.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Too bad they couldn't Google your name back then, Rick.

  • Apatheist| |

    Santorum: Winning!

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Wow, Perry is trying to steal some of Paul's heat.

  • voxpo| |

    Aw...Perry earned a hug.

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    Did you ever read about a frog who dreamed of bein' a king
    And then became one
    Well except for the names and a few other changes
    I you talk about me, the story's the same one

    But I got an emptiness deep inside
    And I've tried, but it won't let me go
    And I'm not a man who likes to swear
    But I never cared for the sound of being alone

    "I am," I said
    To no one there
    An no one heard at all
    Not even the chair
    "I am," I cried
    "I am," said I
    And I am lost, and I can't even say why
    Leavin' me lonely still

  • Apatheist| |

    Second look at Perry? Seriously if I didn't know as a Texan that he's a slimy fuck I'd consider voting for him (in the general).

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    So what is 'Merica back on track? Fighting the Soviets in almost Nuclear War?

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    The back-handed Ron Paul praise is disconcerting.

  • | |

    "I've just cracked open the Shiner Holiday Ales.

    Is there anything more Libertarian-esque than micro-brews?"

    yes. home brewing.

    and of all people, we have jimmy malaise carter to thank for legalizing it

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    I forgot, my Homer Simpson aptitude limits my capability to homebrew.

  • Apatheist| |

    I home brew but as a libertarian I like having a diverse selection of beers to purchase because brewing it yourself can be a pain in the ass.

  • | |

    rock on. i am just starting to home brew. i also just started buying beef by the side, from a rancher vs. using a specialty butcher. i like taking charge of my food and drink... currently working on making up batches of kimchi and gravlax. fermentation and curing are wonderful things

  • Fluffy| |

    As a libertarian, I like beer produced by wage slaves and child laborers in unregulated and uninspected factories with locked fire exit doors.

  • | |

    Ooooh it makes my monocle twinkle just thinking about that...

  • tarran| |

    Do the breweries dump toxic waste into aquifers supplying drinking water?

  • Fluffy| |

    Only after we frack methane into them.

  • juris imprudent| |

    How else do we keep our bottled water empires in the money?

  • | |

    Duh! Slavery.

  • Uncle Joe| |

    Actually, i don't.

    Who knows what disgusting things those rotten kids put in the beer out of spite.

    My shoes, fine. My beer, no way!

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    And Reagan's corpse makes an appearance.

  • Apatheist| |

    Even though he probably won't win again it makes me smile to see the difference from four years ago of how Paul is being treated by the other candidates is astounding.

  • PantsFan| |

    Rickard's Taster Pack.
    The only way to get the new Rickard's Blonde

  • BigT| |

    Newt kisses local ass

  • voxpo| |

    Newt praises the single digit guys.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Michelle Bachmann: Thank god, we drummed Uncle Tom off our stage.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Michele Bachmann: Herman Cain and voters are morons.

  • Michelle| |

    The people are stupid, no words longer than 5 letters!

  • flacid tuna| |

    Bachmann won.

  • Apatheist| |

    Are you turgid yet?

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    Girl, you'll be a woman soon
    Please come take my hand
    Girl, you'll be a woman soon
    Soon, you'll need a man

  • Apatheist| |

    Bachmann: People are easily confused and need retarded slogans instead.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    I'm drunk. I won.

  • beezle| |

    from former R candidate for prez, to hawking scams on retirees! Go Fred!

  • Apatheist| |

    Don't forget his stint as NYC district attorney.

  • | |

    Bachman's husband is a fat, ugly piece of shit. It'd be like sleeping with Newt.

    Michelle, honey, come to Papa. Eh?

  • Apatheist| |

    It's just more cushion for her pushin.

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    Good morning. I love you.
    Now that you're here where you belong,
    I want to be the man you need.
    Just tell me you love me,
    Because I need to hear it, too.
    Just let me be the one you carry deep inside of you.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Dowd didn't realize he wouldn't be sitting behind a desk on air tonight. Wearing jeans like a farmhand.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Waiiiiiit. We can't elect the Grinch. HE's TOO FAT ANNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD TOOOOOOO OLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDD.

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    Tied by love to you, but I was tied too strong.
    Still, I'm afraid of knowin' what leavin' means.
    I know I lived for you in all I tried to do.
    You were the keeper of my dreams.

    Open wide these prison doors.
    Take these chains from 'round my heart.
    Make believe that I'm no more.
    Pay no mind when I depart.
    Need to find another place where love is not just tossed away.
    If you really care for me, open wide these prison doors and set me free.

  • Apatheist| |

    Is Amy Walter a vampire?

  • chris| |

    That is one white lady. Still, any shade that even is sexy.

  • Apatheist| |

    I was also referring to her gimped teeth and manish hair but if that's what your into to each their own.

  • chris| |

    Once again my attempt to relate to the taste of the common man failed miserably.

  • chris| |

    Wait. Mannish hair is considered a vampire trait? Perhaps you forgot your original intent.

  • Apatheist| |

    Perhaps I'm being to logical but the undead shouldn't be capable of growing more hair and therefore the women ones would need to keep their hair short.

  • Apatheist| |

    And mainly I thought her canines looked sharp. Don't question my drunken logic!

  • chris| |

    Well, Amy Walter ain't replacing Kate Beckensale anytime soon, so you get the better of that one. Don't know what I was thinking. Oh yeah, still buzzing, and the goggles from cheap beer can lead a man astray.

    What's up with Anna Pacquin in the lead in the HBO series? Her teeth are even more jacked than Walters?

  • Apatheist| |

    Kate Beckensale!

    I'll be in my bunk.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    No mention of Paul yet in the post-debate hot air balloon inflating.

  • Apatheist| |

    But plenty of camera time for that fatty ginger in the green coat.

  • Jake Tapper| |

    Yes, I'm a soulless product of our Nations's "journalism" "schools".

  • | |

    The ABC folks won't even mention Ron Paul. Weird.

  • voxpo| |

    ABC had a quick huddle and decided that Mitt's $10k bet line will be viewed poorly by Iowans. No need to ask any.

  • David Muir| |

    Parted Hair Robot PRESENT!

  • Apatheist| |

    I don't like making fun of fatties

    I do.

  • Apatheist| |

    I don't like making fun of fatties

    I do.

  • Apatheist| |

    Um?

  • Arduin Grimoire| |

    Gold don't rust. Love don't lie.
    I'll be true 'til the day that I die.
    Trust in me; you will find, baby, you're the gold in this heart of mine,
    and that gold will shine for a long, long time.

  • Apatheist| |

    This post debate coverage is one big circle jerk but I have to agree that Romney did pretty awful.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    This just in: ABC News loves Newt Gingrich.

  • smartass| |

    Doesn't matter. Jimmy Cahtah wants Mitty and that settles it.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    You know, I don't like making fun of fatties but...it's kind of weird how Newt's gut enters a door before he does.

  • PantsFan| |

    Jets played like shit, time for the Kings game.
    Holy shit look at those jerseys is Marcel Dionne playing?

  • | |

    Charlie Simmer is gonna light the lamp tonight!

  • | |

    And BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM go the Red Wings.

    Did they have to replace the bulb in the lamp behind Winnipeg's goal?

  • rsi| |

    Coupon is pronounced as spelled. Just like mule.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    I pronounce it cow-PAWN.

  • Apatheist| |

    So long Jolanda Jones! Now I'm represented by only one crazy black woman.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    Fuck you Santorum you fake fucking piece of anal discharge. God, I hate that fucker.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    Iowa GOP Debate Open Thread and Possible Live-Blogging!

    Way to commit, by the way.

  • | |

    What up dudes? Did Paul get any teevee time?

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    You could have gotten this one with rabbit ears, dude.

    Pens over Isles 6-3, without Gaysby, Staal or Letang. That's what up.

  • Apatheist| |

    ABC is telling me that Ryan Seacrest replacing Matt Lauer is whats up. Why haven't I changed the channel yet?

  • Apatheist| |

    Wait a second a story about a cheerleader coach who got fired for working part time at hooters. Now this is news.

  • Fist of Etiquette| |

    I think the bigger story would be a Hooters coach who got fired for working part time as a cheerleader.

  • Sevo| |

    Oh, shucks. I missed something? Did the Donald embarrass himself, or was that...
    Oh, forget it.

  • LuLu Rockwell| |

    Ron Paul is my nigga, niggas.

  • | |

    Rick Santorum is a man among boys, and he likes it.

  • Drax the Destroyer| |

    He's like a kid hanging out with Sandusky in a shower...wait...isn't he from PA...HOLY SHIT

  • | |

    OK seriously, the clown makeup photoshop was funny the first time, but it's a tad played out.

  • Apatheist| |

    Romney cocksucking was never funny.

  • | |

    I'm sure it wasn't. Perhaps you could let me know who was performing the passe penis pleasuring so that I can avoid them.

  • Apatheist| |

    Good luck.

  • Cytotoxic| |

    Hint: he's as close to you as can be.

  • | |

    HARCOURT FENTON MUDD!!!

  • | |

    DIAF, spoofer.

  • juris imprudent| |

    A Republican debate, only slightly less painful than running your penis through a meat grinder.

  • Mr. FIFY| |

    Is this a young Jason Godesky?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  • Apatheist| |

    That boy needs to lay off the donuts.

    Wait that's a girl.

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

    HAH

  • Mr. FIFY| |

    Really? Wow. Bonus, I suppose.

  • invisible furry hand| |

    Nah, it's a young Newcular

  • Mr. FIFY| |

    On another note...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ure=relmfu

    BTW, did I actually miss anything by not watching the debate? I had to work...

  • Apatheist| |

    Stop watching that ugly shit and watch some Romanian pop music:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rakG7c4eyk

  • Mr. FIFY| |

    I dig on that ugly shit, but I will also watch the Romanian stuff. Thanks!

  • Mr. FIFY| |

    I mean, I dig on the ham. The chick, meh.

    Oh, and here's Ana Popovic...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPqchOVgQyA

  • Apatheist| |

  • Mr. FIFY| |

    Yow!

  • Apatheist| |

  • Mr. FIFY| |

    Was there music in the background in these videos?

  • Apatheist| |

    I shamelessly admit to liking the music too:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  • Apatheist| |

  • Joe M| |

    Your learning disabilities do not interest us.

  • Warty| |

    Who are you talking to?

  • Old Mexican| |

    Re: Rather,

    Things you learn from an open thread:

    #1.


    That you would rather whore with librarians than anybody else....

  • Warty| |

    All right, Welch, you diabolical prick, I coughed up some more.

  • Old Mexican| |

    "I don't think we should have to talk about it [a candidate's commitment to his wife{ves}]," Ron Paul says, about fidelity, and then pivots wisely: "What about your oath of office?" Good applause paragraph!


    Schwing!!!!!!

    Jesse Walker: "Cheers to Ron Paul, who managed to turn a question about Newt Gingrich's [philandering] penis into a libertarian stump speech."


    Applause!!!!

  • Eduard van Haalen| |

    "Rick Santorum is the only candidate I like more than I did at the beginning of this campaign. I do not know how to feel about this."

    You need to be re-educated. Santorum's critics have devoted considerable attention to refuting his ideas through the evidence-based process of linking his name with disgusting substances, and now you're ruining the whole scheme by actually mentioning that you're getting to like him better.

    This invalidates the whole Pavlovian experiment of discrediting someone simply by heaping insults on him.

  • Old Mexican| |

    Re: Eduard van Haalen,

    This invalidates the whole Pavlovian experiment of discrediting someone simply by heaping insults on him.


    It certainly distracts from the fact that Santorum is a warmongering, statist nutjob.

  • Fluffy| |

    I think you have the order of events wrong here.

    Many people decided they hated Santorum and his ideas (and for good reason) and decided to link his name to disgusting substances not to refute him but merely to make him suffer, in accordance with the moral law.

    You seem to think the question of whether or not Santorum was scum was still open when the name-linking fun began, and it wasn't. This was an outcome, and not a process.

  • Old Mexican| |

    Where's Gary Johnson?


    Who cares?

  • | |

    Sounds like a pretty good plan to me dude. Wow.

    www.SurfingPrivacy.tk

  • Almanian| |

    Was there a "debate" last night or something? I call those things "glorified interviews". Debates were, like, Lincoln/Douglas/The Debate Team things with positions and arguments and one or two topics and stuff.

    Back to football!

  • | |

    This IS the worst blog ever, loserville.

  • | |

    This IS the worst blog ever, loserville.

advertisement