McCain Assails "Tea Party Hobbits"

The five-term Republican senator from Arizona gets his sneer on:

Mr. McCain mocked Tea Party-allied Republicans in the House for believing — wrongly, he said — that President Obama and Democrats will get the blame for a default if Republicans refuse to increase the nation's debt ceiling.

By that flawed logic, "Democrats would have no choice but to pass a balanced budget amendment and reform entitlements and the Tea Party Hobbits could return to Middle Earth," he said, quoting a Wall Street Journal editorial.

"This is the kind of crack political thinking that turned Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell into G.O.P. nominees," he jeered, referring to two losing Tea Party candidates for the Senate in 2010. [...]

Mr. McCain assailed the conservative Republicans in the House who are threatening passage of the debt cutting plan by the House speaker, John A. Boehner, calling their political logic "bizarro" and noting sarcastically that they have only been in office a short time.

"Maybe some people who have only been in this body for six or seven months or so really believe that," he said. "Others know better. Others know better."

McCain is obviously no stranger to do-something histrionics, which he sporadically tries to walk back post-facto on those rare occasions when he feels like he needs to be responsive to, rather than dismissive of, grassroots right-of-center sentiment. What I think is more interesting here is his dismissal of the "crack political thinking" of the Tea Party in 2010, a year that returned a Republican majority to the House of Representatives, anchored by a new caucus of Tea Party-approved freshmen. Why, it's almost as if McCain (like his intellectual patron Bill Kristol) is irritated by the fact that Republicans on Capitol Hill are having to take limited-government concerns seriously for the first time in a generation!

Nick Gillespie and I wrote about that latter phenomenon (including the role of Christine O'Donnell) in yesterday's L.A. Times. I wrote a book four years ago entitled McCain: The Myth of a Maverick. FWIW, I completely agree with the senator that anyone who thinks that a highly improbable debt default would be blamed primarily on Obama is probably goofy-headed; I'm just not sure that describes many people.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003R4ZL2S/reasonmagazineA/

Oh, and I left out the best part–as is utterly predictable yet totally hilarious, the New York Times announced McCain's Tea Party slam with the eternal announcement: "[O]n Wednesday morning, it looked like the maverick had returned."

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  • Warty||

    "[O]n Wednesday morning, it looked like the maverick had returned."

    *barf*

  • WTF||

    Because mavericks always support the status quo.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    While no one outmavericks the maverick, perhaps McCain's slight would have been better received if it had been couched in terms more current. "Entitlements could be reformed and the Tea Party Muggles could leave Hogwarts in the hands of the wizards or whatever the fuck Potter was supposed to be."

  • Cliché Bandit||

    jeesus FoE...at least skim the cliff's notes.

    C'MON HERE!!!!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Democrats would have no choice but to pass a balanced budget amendment and reform entitlements and the Tea Party Gooks could go back above the 38th Parallel or wherever the fuck they went when I was flying combat."

  • Steve Smith||

    The John McCain Real Doll I ordered finally arrived. I'm greased up and ready to rumble! Anyone else want in?

  • ||

    Get it right, Warty: it's spelled MAVRICK.

  • Warty||

    And it's pronounced MAVERK. What's your point?

  • ||

    My point is that you're an incontinent grammartard, you specious bonehead.

  • ||

    I pull the string and the puppet dances.

  • la-la-la-can't-hear-you||

    Fuck off, troll.

    He got Steve Smith'd so hard, yesterday. Be gentle. ;)

    SugarFree|7.27.11 @ 12:46PM|#

    You me'd that up, dude.

    Chupacabra|7.27.11 @ 1:41PM|#

    In the future, just stick with "Fuck off, troll."

    It's much more effective.

  • ||

    Dance, sockpuppet! Dance!

  • la-la-la-can't-hear-you||

    Fuck off, troll.

    He got Steve Smith'd so hard, yesterday. Be gentle. ;)

    SugarFree|7.27.11 @ 12:46PM|#

    You me'd that up, dude.

    Chupacabra|7.27.11 @ 1:41PM|#

    In the future, just stick with "Fuck off, troll."

    It's much more effective.

  • la-la-la-can't-hear-you||

    Fuck off, troll.

    He got Steve Smith'd so hard, yesterday. Be gentle. ;)

    SugarFree|7.27.11 @ 12:46PM|#

    You me'd that up, dude.

    Chupacabra|7.27.11 @ 1:41PM|#

    In the future, just stick with "Fuck off, troll."

    It's much more effective.

  • Chupacabra||

    Why are me quoting me, fuckstick?

  • Pip||

    WTF?

  • Steve Smith||

    The John McCain Real Doll I ordered finally arrived. I'm greased up and ready to rumble! Anyone else want in?

  • The Hamilton||

    McCain who?

  • ||

    He was the guy that the Powers that Be in the Republican party tossed under the bus as the sacrificial candidate in the last presidential election. They knew that after Bush, anyone they picked was going to be demolished, so they picked the gigolo that nobody liked.

    -jcr

  • OO||

    "This is the kind of crack political thinking that turned Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell into G.O.P. nominees,"
    _
    course there's the whole palin-grift senator

  • WTF||

    "This is the kind of crack political thinking that turned Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell into G.O.P. nominees,"

    As opposed to the crack political thinking that turned John McCain into a presidential nominee? How'd that work out?

  • Citizen Nothing||

    This is the kind of crack political thinking that got McCain elected POTUS.

  • ||

    I'll take Sauron over Obama, because at least Sauron won't bullshit us -- he'll just slaughter us outright and put us out of our misery     

  • ||

    Says the guy who picked Sarah Palin. I fucking hate John McCain.

    IF WE ALLOW HOMOS IN THE MILITARY, GOLD STARS WILL BE GOING UP ALL OVER AMERICA, MY FRIENDS. GOLD STARS.

  • ||

    C+. Try harder. It's not like it isn't incredibly easy to outshine all the other retard trolls here. Go for the gold star, dude! Go for it!

  • Pip||

    Did anyone else read this handle as Limp in the Penis?

  • MNG||

    Projecting again Pippie?

  • Pip||

    Oh look! My troll is here!

  • MNG||

    Don't confuse trolling someone with always getting a kick out of the class retard.

  • MiNGe||

    ^^THIS^^

  • ||

    Oh, we don't. MNG. We don't.

  • MiNGe||

    Who can know why the Left doesn't attract more support from the erectile disfunction community with gems like this?

  • MNG||

    Oh, I'll concede the Right has the erectile dysfunction bloc in hand.

  • WTF ||

    I blame Bob Dole.

  • fish||

    Left hand then?

  • Chupacabra||

    They must have stole their free will by advertising.

  • cynical||

    For all the good it will do them.

  • ||

    Try the little blue pill! Liddy loves it!

  • ||

    I try not to like the Tea Party too much--it is polluted with socons, after all--but, damn if it doesn't have some critics that I already love to hate.

  • la-la-la-can't-hear-you||

    Fuck off, troll.

    He got Steve Smith'd so hard, yesterday. Be gentle. ;)
    SugarFree|7.27.11 @ 12:46PM|#

    You me'd that up, dude.
    Chupacabra|7.27.11 @ 1:41PM|#

    In the future, just stick with "Fuck off, troll."

    It's much more effective.

  • ||

    If you notice, on both this thread and the Freedom Watch thread, rather has posted right on top of her little sockpuppet stalker in an attempt to throw suspicion off of herself.

  • ||

    Hey, I have to share my stalker with you?

    Thank Jeebus.

  • ||

    And then, in the Chinese Queuers thread, rather responds to her own sockpuppet, as a further distraction.

  • ||

    Well, she is the vast majority of the retard troll posts here, so what did you expect?

  • la-la-la-can't-hear-you||

    Fuck off, troll.

    He got Steve Smith'd so hard, yesterday. Be gentle. ;)

    SugarFree|7.27.11 @ 12:46PM|#

    You me'd that up, dude.

    Chupacabra|7.27.11 @ 1:41PM|#

    In the future, just stick with "Fuck off, troll."

    It's much more effective.

  • Steve Smith||

    The John McCain Real Doll I order finally arrived. I'm greased up and ready to rumble! Anyone else want in?

  • Warty||

    Whatever. What we all want to know is, are you her current host?

  • Citizen Nothing||

    You need to pose the question in the form of a "coded" message.

  • la-la-la-can't-hear-you||

    Fuck off, troll.

    He got Steve Smith'd so hard, yesterday. Be gentle. ;)

    SugarFree|7.27.11 @ 12:46PM|#

    You me'd that up, dude.

    Chupacabra|7.27.11 @ 1:41PM|#

    In the future, just stick with "Fuck off, troll."

    It's much more effective.

  • Steve Smith||

    The John McCain Real Doll I order finally arrived. I'm greased up and ready to rumble! Anyone else want in?

  • ||

    Born down in a dead man's town, the first kick I took was when I hit the ground.

    BORN IN THE USA, I WAS BORN IN THE USA, I WAS BORN IN THE USA! BORN IN THE USA NOW!

    Got in a little hometown jam, so they put a rifle in my hand, sent me off to a foreign land to go and kill the yellow man.

  • Restoras||

    Springsteen sucks.

  • Tony||

    You douche, he's a man of the people and sings from the heart! He's also a multi-millionaire that can't wait to pay a shitload more in taxes!

  • Steve Smith||

    The John McCain Real Doll I ordered finally arrived. I'm greased up and ready to rumble! Anyone else want in?

  • ||

    Now you have your own stalker, dude! Aren't you happy? And it's even dumber than any that have come before. So, I guess...you win?

  • Citizen Nothing||

    By their trolls ye shall know them.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    I am inadequate...

    *pout*

  • Arrogant Worms||

    I'm a hobbit! Hah hah hah hah!

  • rather||

    One bookwhoring at a time. Can I pick this one up in the 99cent store?

  • Virginia||

    you mean Borders?

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: rather,

    Can I pick this one up in the 99cent store?


    I don't think 99cent stores would stoop so low. They have a reputation to keep.

  • MNG||

    OM
    Caught Cap America the other day, you were right, good time.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: MNG,

    Caught Cap America the other day, you were right, good time.


    Told ya you would have a good time ;-)

  • Fluffy||

    In chicken, the guy with the least fear wins in the end.

    I guess McCain is worried that the Tea Party caucus is starting to look like a winner.

  • cynical||

    Well, assuming someone actually wins.

  • ||

    These guys are just shitting in their shorts. "Remember 94! Clinton and America blamed the Republicans!" So what? Let them do it again. But this time, hold out faggots!

  • Anono - Bringer of Freedom||

    Gay slurs as insults aren't kosher anymore, nigga.

  • ||

    Who can know why the Right doesn't attract more support from the homosexual Jewish Black community with gems like this?

  • la-la-la-can't-hear-you||

    Fuck off, troll.

    He got Steve Smith'd so hard, yesterday. Be gentle. ;)

    SugarFree|7.27.11 @ 12:46PM|#

    You me'd that up, dude.

    Chupacabra|7.27.11 @ 1:41PM|#

    In the future, just stick with "Fuck off, troll."

    It's much more effective.

  • MiNGe||

    JOOS!

  • MNG||

    Hey Epi, see, I got my own stalkers too.

    You've guys have finally made it, welcome to the club. Drinks are up front, Pip's mom is in the back.

  • Pip||

    Pointing out how goddmn annoying you are isn't stalking, given how goddmn annoying you are.

  • Pip||

    Oh, and I'm not MiNGe.

  • space biologist||

    and I'm not rogue biologist.

  • Sammy Davis Jr.||

    I was jusr a little gay, man.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    In the kingdom of the blind, you're king, baby.

  • Sammy Davis Jr.|||

    And let me tell you, man, king is the cat to be.

  • Citizen Unpronouncable Symbol||

    I'd rather be the Pope.

  • MNG||

    Prince reference, +1

  • Citizen Nothing||

    You sexy motherfucker.

  • ||

    The greatest Prince lyric will always be:

    "I sincerely want to fuck the taste out of your mouth."

  • la-la-la-can't-hear-you||

    Fuck off, troll.

    He got Steve Smith'd so hard, yesterday. Be gentle. ;)

    SugarFree|7.27.11 @ 12:46PM|#

    You me'd that up, dude.

    Chupacabra|7.27.11 @ 1:41PM|#

    In the future, just stick with "Fuck off, troll."

    It's much more effective.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    This place is in serious need of couples counseling.

  • ||

    Typical blowhard McCain.

    Though I do still appreciate that he voted against Medicare Part D, against the Energy Bills, and against the Farm Bills, when members of the current House Leadership (and opportunistic Senators like Lindsey Graham) were going along with the higher spending just because an R like GWB was in charge.

  • MNG||

    John T, you are hereby named Master of Senate Lore!

  • Pip||

    Still hawking the book, I see.

  • T||

    The royalties ain't much, but they're still money.

  • SIV||

    You get royalties on half.com shipping charges?

  • Old Mexican||

    McCain is obviously no stranger to do-something histrionics,


    And coincidentally, the worst type of politician is of the "do-something" kind.

  • Restoras||

    Who was it that said, Don't do soemthing, just stand there.? Maybe I should just Google it...

  • ||

    Which is why it's sort of amusing that McCain voted against so many of the stupid bipartisan bills under GWB.

    Maybe it's just because hated GWB so much.

  • ||

    No, the worst kind is the kind whose primary worry is who is going to be blamed. Oh, wait, we can have both worst kinds in one old fart politician.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Understanding the "do-something" politician in three steps:

    1) Something must be done.
    2) This [insert stupid idea] is something.
    3) [Insert stupid idea] must be done.

    Brought to you by the political documentary, Yes Minister.

  • Warty||

    This is far too stupid. Brain cleanse: Astronomers find Earth's first trojan asteroid

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I will be goddamned if I will share an orbit with some lowly asteroid. I won't have the Venusians claiming Earth isn't a planet.

  • Warty||

    Face it, dude. We're no better than Pluto.

  • Joe M||

    Hey, Neptune and Jupiter share their orbits, and I don't hear any other planets talking shit about them.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    Neptune and Jupiter share their orbits

    I always knew were were in a socialist system.

  • Brett L||

    Well, now we know where Elvis is.

  • MNG||

    If I were prone to conspiracy theories I would say that McCain's comments were concocted in a lab to induce the maximum amount of rage from John possible. Hell, even I'm amazed at the pure amount of snooty elitism crammed into those few lines...

  • MiNGe||

    And I am the king of snooty elitism!

  • MiNGe||

    Well... the queen, anyway.

  • cynical||

    Wait, is John one of those Tolkien nerds?

  • wef||

    Why bother with what this philosophically incoherent fraud mccain has to say? Because his flaccidity is a good conversational stink bomb to throw when snarking at repubes.

  • ||

    "Mr. McCain mocked Tea Party-allied Republicans in the House for believing — wrongly, he said — that President Obama and Democrats will get the blame for a default if Republicans refuse to increase the nation's debt ceiling."

    The interesting thing is that John McCain's highest priority isn't whether what the Tea Party is doing is in the best interests of the country--McCain's highest priority is the question of who gets the blame, the Republicans or the Democrats?

    What happened to being a maverick, John McCain? A maverick with the good of the country at heart?!

    For shame, McCain. For shame.

  • alan||

    Well stated.

  • Sammy Davis Jr.||

    "I would say that McCain's comments were concocted in a lab to induce the maximum amount of rage from John possible."

    Envy really looks ugly on you, man.

  • ||

    As Rand Paul famously said:

    I don't know half of government expenditures half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of them half as well as they deserve.

  • GSL||

    To hear the anti-Tea Party screeching on FOX right now, this isn't surprising. But the GOP alienates the Tea Partiers at its own risk. If the R's really care about political positioning and elections, they should probably consider that they can't win anything without those folks.

  • OO||

    same thing was said about the evangelicals before the rapture, err...rupture following the gay-sex scandels...and meth

  • ||

    as fucked up as this nation is with obama, i'd hazard a guess it would be equally fucked with mccain

    time to logans run these decrepit assholes once and for all

  • Truth Will Out||

    Reasonable people can agree that the government is probably spending a little bit more money than it should, in the grand scheme of things. However, we should not let this fact distract us from dealing with the current crisis in a responsible way. The only solution for the moment is to increase the debt ceiling.

    Once that part is handled, both sides can sit down at a table like adults and calmly discuss how to dismantle the bloated U.S. military budget and preserve our social safety net commitments, through targeted tax credits and tax increases on the richest Americans.

  • Sammy Davis Jr.|||

    Now eat your peas, man.

  • ||

    Dude, just fucking give up already. You suck monkey balls. F.

  • Warty||

    He had some potential, I thought. This is disappointing.

  • Jack the Reaper||

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!

    But, seriously...what do you really propose.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Truth Will Out,

    Reasonable people can agree that the government is probably spending a little bit more money than it should[...] However, we should not let this fact distract us from dealing with the current crisis in a responsible way.


    "Honey, I know I have spent a little bit more than I should this month, but we should focus instead on how you are paying for it!"

    Causes for a divorce # 1232

  • Colin||

    Now Matt just needs Vaclav Klaus to say something stupid today and his day will have been made.

  • ||

    No the completeness would require Tom Friedman to say something stupid as well.

  • fish||

    It's done then......Tom Friedman says something stupid at least on an hourly basis. He writes something stupid at least daily.

  • ||

    "This is the kind of crack political thinking that turned Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell into G.O.P. nominees," he jeered, referring to two losing Tea Party candidates for the Senate in 2010. [...]

    Wasn't 2010 the same year the republicans took over the house because of tea party efforts, and in 2008 didn't McCain's non-tea party political strategy lose big time?

  • ||

    Statist shitheads generally don't yield to rationality, morality, and logic, so trying to reason with the fucker won't achieve shit. Fuck him and his establishment.

  • Joe M||

    Here's an honest question. If McCain had somehow won, would the Tea Party have come into existence? I'm willing to bet his policies would've been about 95% identical to Obama's, with the only notable difference being no Obamacare.

    But he was all in for the bailouts, the stimulus, etc., and that was the original impetus for the movement. Would he have acquiesced to them a lot quicker, and maybe defused the movement? Or would they have done the same thing, refusing to be absorbed by the GOP establishment?

  • ||

    But he was all in for the bailouts, the stimulus, etc., and that was the original impetus for the movement.

    Actually, he was against the stimulus. He was indeed all for the bailouts, because he tends to buy the apocalyptic rhetoric.

  • Joe M||

    Oops. I just checked, and yeah, the stimulus was right down party lines, except for some liberal Republicans up in the northeast. Then I wonder if president McCain would've vetoed the bill?

  • ||

    Then I wonder if president McCain would've vetoed the bill?

    The stimulus would have looked like the alternative McCain stimulus plan offered in 2009, which was about half the size and consisted of a payroll tax cut and some unemployment benefits, but none of the discretionary spending.

  • ||

    yeah republican stimulus bills (hell even most democrat stimulus bills after FDR) tend to be small and/or lean heavily on tax breaks.

    I have a theory that Republicans secretly know stimulus does not work and only pass such bills to appease the ignorant masses.

    Of course a Bush stimulus plan would have been very similar to McCain's so there is one mark against your Bush and Obama are more similar then Obama and McCain.

  • ||

    because he tends to buy the apocalyptic rhetoric.

    Huh?

    McCain is a apocalyptic salesmen. not a buy but a seller.

  • robc||

    The Tea party predates the 2008 election, so, ummm, yes.

  • Joe M||

    There's a huge argument about this on Wikipedia which I've been partially watching. When do you think the Tea Party movement started?

  • robc||

    Ron Paul's tea party money bomb.

  • Joe M||

    I think so too, but apparently, that's not the popular narrative.

  • robc||

    Thats because the majority of tea partiers werent RP supporters.

    And even more so amongst the supposed tea party "leaders".

    But they were all late comers to the party.

  • ||

    There are left wingers and right wingers who both want to pretend that the tea party never had anything to do with Ron Paul. Censorship on Wikipedia is highly efficient.

    -jcr

  • CrackertyAssCracker||

    +1.

    I was watching tea get thrown in a river well before the arrival of the "Get your government hands off my Medicare" types muddied the waters.

    Not that we don't need them, unfortunately.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    I would like to point out that the "Send a teabag to your representative" was the original tea party name origin for this latest movement (18th century obviouslsy excluded)and that was a big push by two groups, early RP supporters (i mean before he delcared early) and LP activists. And let's not forget, Ernie Hancock is the creator of the whole Reloveution meme that helped set up the RP campaign...he was a HUGE (still is) RP supporter.

    Incidentally, Ernie also likes to claim the LP is overrun with Republicans, I guess he doesnt know RP is a Republican.

  • Seven Brides for One Brother||

    "Ron Paul's tea party money bomb."

    Yes

  • Cliché Bandit||

    not that i care too much but the Money Bomb was after the tea bag mail thingy and came about as a result of it. Not detracting from the paulite contribution here, the tea bag thingy wasnt very 'successful' as a stand alone event and the movement as a whole came from RP support and campaign (the grassroots part not the official campaign part) BUT the original "focus fiscal" and "lets do some grass roots not top down" sentiments were born out of the groups doing the tea bag stunt thingy.

    ***All of the above being said, I can't seem to find any refence to a 2007 tea bag thingy...but unless I am comletely demented here I distincly remember it, I have a contemporary event in my life which allows me to remember the time frame.

  • ola||

    Bush's fucking immigration bill.

  • ||

    When The congressional phone lines burnt down during TARP?

  • ||

    When do you think the Tea Party movement started?

    FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity both originated from a campaign called Citizens for a Sound Economy, which split in two in 2004. CSE was set up by businessman David Koch (Koch Industries).[3] Citizens for a Sound Economy merged with Empower America in 2004 and was renamed FreedomWorks, with Dick Armey, Jack Kemp and C. Boyden Gray serving as co-chairmen, Bill Bennett focusing on school choice as a Senior Fellow, and Matt Kibbe as President and CEO.[4][5][contradiction] Empower America was founded in 1993 by William Bennett, former Secretary of HUD Jack Kemp, former Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, and former Representative Vin Weber.[6] In December 2006, Steve Forbes joined the board of directors.[7]

    so 1993 or 2004 whichever floats your boat.

  • ||

    opps CSE started in 1984

    Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) (1984–2004) was a conservative political group operating in the United States, whose self-described mission was "to fight for less government, lower taxes, and less regulation." In 2004, Citizens for a Sound Economy split into two new organizations, with Citizens for a Sound Economy being renamed as FreedomWorks, and Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation becoming Americans for Prosperity.

  • ||

    Here's an honest question. If McCain had somehow won, would the Tea Party have come into existence?

    Yes and no.

    The tea party would have existed but would have been much smaller.

    No in that if McCain had won then the political make up of the US would have been much different then it is and was.

    I think you are mixing up cause and effect with your question.

  • Tman||

    Why yes, yes it was.

    The same Tea Party Hobbits that the Maverick is disparaging along with his buddy, Cowboy Poet Reid are the same folks who put the GOP in charge of the House.

    I guess ole Maverick needed to remind everyone why he got so badly stomped by the Chosen one.

  • ||

    I guess ole Maverick needed to remind everyone why he got so badly stomped by the Chosen one.

    Yep, it's because the American people love Medicare Part D and farm and energy subsidies, and hate free trade.

    I mean, it has to be something that GWB and Obama have in common that McCain doesn't that's the deciding factor, right?

  • Tman||

    I'll admit that Mav held strong on some of those issues for a few votes but c'mon- there was no difference whatsoever between him and GWB from a political standpoint.

    And he has a lot of nerve to insult a grass roots movement that helped -if not was independently responsible for- bringing a majority to the House.

  • ||

    I'll admit that Mav held strong on some of those issues for a few votes but c'mon- there was no difference whatsoever between him and GWB from a political standpoint.

    C'mon-- there was more difference between McCain and GWB than between Obama and GWB from a political standpoint. McCain gets extra points for being willing to vote against a fellow Republican, as opposed to Obama, who supports all of GWB's policies now that he's the king.

    Medicare Part D equals out Obamacare, so the sum total of issues where Obama is different is: gay rights.

    McCain sucks, but GWB and Obama suck more.

  • Tman||

    there was more difference between McCain and GWB than between Obama and GWB from a political standpoint.

    Wow, you really think so? I was under the impression that Obama painted McCain (successfully) as Bush 2.0, thus one of the reasons he won the election. And you can't even remotely compare Part D to Obamacare. Part D, as feeble as it is, is an attempt to get the market to help bring down costs. Obamacare is basically erasing the market from the equation.

    You can argue over which one is more expensive (Obamacare, it's not even close) but by any measure Part D has actually achieved what it was planned to do.

    http://kxoradio.com/news/healt.....story.html

    "The most recent report from the Medicare Trustees projects future Part D spending will be below previous projections. In fact, total Part D costs have declined by 41 percent, or $261 billion, compared to the initial 10-year cost estimate, according to the report.

    Additionally, the average monthly beneficiary premium for Part D coverage is $30 this year, far below the $53 originally forecast and an increase of only $1 over last year’s average premium.

  • ||

    Wasn't 2010 the same year the republicans took over the house because of tea party efforts, and in 2008 didn't McCain's non-tea party political strategy lose big time?

    True, but couldn't the same logic be used to argue that GWB's Energy Bill, Farm Bill, Medicare Part D strategy won in 2004 big time, whereas McCain opposed all those and lost?

    So if you want to be consistent, you have to say that Medicare Part D was a vote-winner by your logic.

  • ||

    So if you want to be consistent, you have to say that Medicare Part D was a vote-winner by your logic.

    Sure in 2004 it was a winner (not really republicans lost seats in 2004), but one would have to be blind to think the political winds have not changed a bit since 2004. The house changed hands twice since then.

  • ||

    A big part of what turned O'Donnell and Angle into losing Tea Party candidates was the opposition of establishment Republicans like McCain.

    Just think, Maverick, if you hadn't submarined their campaigns, you could be chairing committees as part of a Senate majority.

    That's some crack political thinking there, genius.

  • ||

    I'm not so sure Angle didn't have her race won before Reid bused in the SEIU.

  • Joe M||

    Haha, one of the top comments over at your L.A. Times piece is someone saying the Tea Party is all Koch brothers, baby. No wonder you're talking about how great it is; you're on the same payroll.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    Haha, indeed, Joe M.
    Haha, indeed.

  • squishua||

    "Maybe some people who have only been in this body for six or seven months or so really believe that," he said. "Others know better. Others know better."


    Yeah, the ones who got us into this mess obviously know better. Seriously, doesn't this asshole have a sentence to finish serving for war crimes in Vietnam?

  • alan||

    Lol! Didn't see your comment before I made mine. Thinking the same, what a fucking nuisance McCain has been ever since he learned to play footsies with the mainstream media after getting his hand caught in the til with Keating 5.

  • Gray Ghost||

    Maybe McCain's pissed that the Tea Party might endorse Rick Perry's presidential run while saying nothing during his own?
    http://blog.chron.com/txpotoma.....e-changer/

    (I know, I know: the Tea Party wasn't really around when McCain was running.)

    God help us all.

  • Joe M||

    What a bunch of BS. There was a Tea Party-type libertarianish candidate running against Perry in 2010. How the hell are people falling for his nonsense now?

  • Gray Ghost||

    The TP certainly isn't a monolith. Witness the three candidates that ran against Ron Paul last time around for his Congressional seat. (For Chrissakes, if Ron Paul isn't anti-spending enough for you...)

    My guess is the cited TP leader feels that Perry has a decent shot at the Nom and wants to get in the ground floor. He has a point, I think. Despite the fact that Perry is basically Bush the Lesser, but even more of a crony capitalist/SoCon tool, who else is there? Mittens? Bachmann? Pawlenty?

  • ||

    Here's what I wanna know, Welch. How did McCain get skin cancer on his bum? Does he not wear a bathing suit, like a decent Republican should, when lounging around his Arizona pool?

    Actually, I don't care. I just wanted to plant the image.in everyone's mind.

  • cynical||

    kill... you...

  • Old Mexican||

    By the way, I saw the DVR'd episode of The Five from yesterday, and The Judge was pounding Bob Beckel to the ground, a sight to behold! Beckel actually showed his real colors after The Judge asked him a few simple questions; the guy goes rambling about white people receiving special treatment from the Republicans which explains the income gap... It sounded like the guy was back on drugs.

    Unfortunately, such bliss cannot last forever. I don't think Fox will want to keep The Judge as a regular in The Five; but one can only hope!

  • WTF ||

    Damn, I'm sorry I missed that! Beckel is a douchenozzle of the highest order.

  • Warty||

    In 2007, Beckel got into a parking lot punch out with a man who took issue with his anti-George W. Bush bumper stickers.[6]

    Bibliography

    2007, Common Ground: How to Stop the Partisan War That Is Destroying America with Cal Thomas (ISBN 978-0-06-123634-1)

    He's doing it wrong.

  • Bob Beckel||

    Common Ground: How to Stop the Partisan War That Is Destroying America

    I don't really believe in any of this nonsense. But even a douchenozzle like me has to make a living.

  • alan||

    Doesn't this guy have a prison sentence in Hanoi to complete? Obviously, buying him early release was worth every dime.

  • The Republic of Vietnam||

    That's OK, we're perfectly happy to let him stay in the USA and do whatever damage he can to you imperialist dogs.

    Love,

    The Gooks.

  • Vladyslav Gaychuk||

    Interesting analogy.

    In the story, the Sauron was trying to stop the Hobbits from destroying the Ring of Power.

    So the Ring of Power is the debt ceiling, and the Democrats want it back.

  • ||

    And the Hobbits actually saved Middle Earth.
    Just saying.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    And the Hobbits actually saved Middle Earth

    Well, we all try to do our part.

    ... Hobbit

  • cynical||

    And McCain is Saruman. And Ron Paul is going beat his elderly ass and take his staff. Giving up his Congressional seat? That was going from the Grey to the White.

  • Zuo||

    John Sidney is all wee-wee'd up because he's just a minor orc, and plays no real role other than showing his uglyass mug to remind us what loathsome and dispicable sorts dwell in the corrupted and defiled halls on congress in this Age. He's not even uruk-hai material, that's for sure.

  • Captain America||

    I fear these idiot lawmakers more than the supposed default.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    the New York Times announced McCain's Tea Party slam with the eternal announcement: "[O]n Wednesday morning, it looked like the maverick had returned."

    I wonder how John McCain feels about being a booty call to the New York Times. When they need a Team Red to squawk about other Team Reds, he's the maverick. When he runs for president against Barry, he's too old, possibly senile, Bush's third time, Sarah Palin will be the real President, et cetera ad nauseum.

    NYT: "Hey John, we need some of that mav'rick lovin'. Get your sweet, wrinkly ass over here. And pick up a box of wine on the way."

  • ||

    McCain, you lost to Obama. How's that for a joke?

  • David Brooks||

    But if McCain could just push the Republicans an inch closer to the left he would have won...

    Soooo very close.

  • Knellwell||

    Not a very funny one when McCain makes more sense.

  • ||

    Yeah that part when McCain dropped his whole campaign and rushed to DC so he could save the universe by getting TARP passed.

    That made a hell of a lot of sense.

  • Pissed_off||

    Hi John McCain. Respectfully - F*CK YOU you out of touch beltway insider. Rot in hell.

    Thank you.

  • Steve Smith||

    The John McCain Real Doll I order finally arrived. I'm greased up and ready to rumble! Anyone else want in?

  • ||

    ok, gonna tell you how it is: it is quite unfortunate McCain compared teabaggers to hobbits, it is extremely insulting to hobbits, who were nice hardworking folks.. some of them actually sacrificed a lot, almost died, all for common good, to save people and creatures they really had no business elping, if you follow teabagger moronic drumbeat.. but where BIG MACis right is that al these dumb teabagging douchenozzles indeed have no idea how country operates.. teabaggers are ignorant.. they have nothing in common with original teaparty movement, they represent the most weird and stupid segment of american society, and they simply want to screw up this country, ruin this economy completely.. i don't care for big Mac, but at least he tell reality from idiocy, and he does not want to push economy off the cliff.. tebaggers want this, even republicans see them for the smelly scum that they are.. and this little blog of yours is just pathetic.. i wish you all lived in a state with no roads, no police, no fire service, no emergency services, no army, no medical coverage, no social protection of any kind, no infrastructure.. i wish you all had to live in a country without government regulation of any kind so you could enjoy your poisonous air and water, rotten food and deadly drugs.. but of course you all won't have to pay taxes (dunno how you'd get paid in a country that does not fubction, though) and you'd be sitting in the dark on a pile of your own cash, constipated from all the crap you ate, slowly shhoting at random in the direction of nearest suspicious noise.. you are the dumbest and most delusional crowd of loons ever, republican party suddenly looks responsible with you on the background..

  • Banjos||

    I like this one. You can actually picture spiddle coming out of his mouth, the puffy red face, the veins popping out. Nicely done. Could use a few more caps though and a mention of Kochtopus.

  • ||

    Hmm.. i think you just described the average teabagger.. i'm quite calm.. the hot spit if coming flying from your side of the isle )))

  • Ginger Crotch||

    The problem with you, Mike, is you don't know shit. You think you know shit, but you know Jack Shit. Big Difference!

  • Ginger Crotch||

    Mike, you are everything that is wrong with Canada, and you are not even Canadian.

  • Truth Will Out||

    Comrade!

  • Zuo||

    i wish you all lived in a state with no roads, no police, no fire service, no emergency services, no army, no medical coverage, no social protection of any kind, no infrastructure.. i wish you all had to live in a country without government regulation of any kind so you could enjoy your poisonous air and water, rotten food and deadly drugs.. but of course you all won't have to pay taxes (dunno how you'd get paid in a country that does not fubction, though) and you'd be sitting in the dark on a pile of your own cash, constipated from all the crap you ate, slowly shhoting at random in the direction of nearest suspicious noise..

    Be this the Garden of Eden you describe? Or some other unknown paradise?

    btw hobbits were notorious for not being "hardworking". Get your facts straight, nub.

  • ||

    Looks like the Moonbat Mike needs to get out of Mother's basement once in a while.

    Hey, Loser: playing WoW for 23 hours a day does not make you a military genius; absorbing your "facts" from MSNBC/Democratic Underground doesn't make you informed; and jacking off to Rachel Maddow doesn't make you a stud.

    Now, bugger off, little boy. The adults are talking here.

  • ||

    agree with Mike, how could anything called "reason" spread such lies and advocate for destruction of economy ??? with people like you nothing would ever get built in our country, you are cavemen (and cavewomen). ))))))))

  • STEVE SMITH||

    STEVE SMITH AGREE. COME TO STEVE SMITH'S CAVE ANN. I SHOW YOU GOOD TIME LONG TIME. TEABAGGER SCUMS, STAY BACK! RRAAARGH!

  • Ken||

    I am assuming the Lord of the Rings was too hard of a read for Mr McCain.

    Might as well stick him in the Saruman role and skip to the Scouring of the Shire

  • scarpe Nike Store||

    is good

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