Undertrained and Underfunded: Our Allies in Libya

So they are untrained, have no real leader, no plan on how to dislodge Qaddafi, and are chronically short on weapons and supplies. Now it appears that the anti-Qaddafi forces in eastern Libya are also running out of cash. From the Financial Times

Banks were short of local and foreign currency, said Ahmed el-Sharif, adding the asset freeze imposed on the Muammer Gaddafi regime was hurting its foes as well.

“When you get to the point of rationing liquidity, whether local or foreign currency, we are on the edge of a crisis,” he said.

Power was being rationed in Benghazi, where many shops and businesses have been closed for almost two months. A fuel and cooking gas shortage was averted only with the arrival of supplies from Qatar.

“We are in a cash economy; all the cash is with the public,” Mr Sharif said. “The banks will be empty in maybe two weeks.”

The opposition has paid public sector salaries in areas it controls for February and March but will struggle to meet April’s wage bill unless it can gain access to Libyan assets frozen offshore, he said. The monthly salaries for public sector workers in the east – 80-85 per cent of the region’s labour market – is estimated at 250m dinars ($204m), he said.

And once again, Reuters reports, rebel leaders are attacking NATO for "its slow chain of command in ordering air strikes to protect civilians, saying the alliance was 'letting the people of Misrata die every day.'" No complaints, however, about Angelina Jolie's handling of the refugee crisis on Libya-Tunisia border.

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  • deified||

    So they are untrained, have no real leader, no plan on how to dislodge Qaddafi, and are chronically short on weapons and supplies. Now it appears that the anti-Qaddafi forces in eastern Libya are also running out of cash

    Send lawyers, guns, and money!

  • Entitled Slacker||

    Clearly, they need a union.

  • Widget||

    Just send the lawyers. That won't solve Libya's problem but it'll get a monkey off our back.

  • Marty Feldman's Eyes||

    You know, I actually think Moynihan's ok, but geez louize, just about *any* other Reason writer would have had the good taste to make this Warren Zevon reference with that setup. This is what happens when they break form and hire people who are more familiar with Swedish newspapers than pop culture.

  • Otto||

    He's still bitter about that bad luck streak in dancing school...

  • Vermont Gun Owner||

    I would argue they are overfunded since they are getting our tax dollars.

  • MNG||

    Rebels=the new welfare queens?

  • sevo||

    MNG|4.5.11 @ 7:04PM|#
    "Rebels=the new welfare queens?"

    Or rent-seekers; see below.

  • Paul||

    The poor African looks healthier and better nourished than Jolie.

  • MNG||

    +1, she has really become grotesquely bony

  • ||

    I never understood why movie stars and models listen to fashion magazine editors rather then horny 18 year old boys.

  • rather ||

    Hmm, what do they know? They fuck pies

  • .||

    Hair pies maybe.

  • rather ||

  • .||

    Doesn't look 18 yet to me - maybe 14 or 15. We'll take anything we can find at that age.

  • rather ||

    I don't think you realize this was an American Pie movie reference

  • Rather Retarded||

    I made a spoof of American Pie once. It was called American Pickle.

  • Cabeza de Vaca||

    "NATO had been moving very slowly, allowing Gaddafi forces to advance, he said, adding the rebels were considering referring the issues with NATO to the U.N. Security Council which authorised its mission. "NATO has become our problem," said the Libyan Opposition General."

    So NATO saves your ass from Gaddafi's forces & all you do is complain. This is typical of what happens when you intervene in foreign civil wars. Your new "allies" are never happy no matter how much you spend or help them. They always expect & demand more.

  • ||

    I still cannot believe were are now mired in another war. And these fuckers are complaining that it's not enough. Unreal.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    I vote we call this one the

    Nobel Peace Prize War.

    ... Hobbit

  • Nobel WarPig Obama||

    I agree.

  • Woodrow||

    How about the War of Obama's Ears?

  • ||

    Yep, and if we actually do walk away from this conflict as Big O has promised to do, and the rebellion is crushed, the ummah will hate us even more. Ken Shultz, are you listening? (Probably not, I suspect he's an INCIF wimp)

  • BayOfPigs Obama||

    Days, not weeks.

  • WarPig Obama||

    Well, I'm going to be squarely on the side of the situation as it appears.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Yeah I'm all for their cause but they're really starting to piss me off.

  • prolefeed||

    I'm not all for their cause because I don't know what their cause is, other than to get rid of Gaddafi and do something else. The details of the latter matter.

  • ||

    So, the islamic rebels are upset that the Great Satan and her European lackeys haven't given Libya to them.

    TDB

  • rather ||

    Geraldo reports (he is there) they have plenty of weapons and there is a Greek tanker uploading oil in port now. Qatar is paying the rebel leader millions for the product, and bypassing Quadafi

  • sevo||

    rather |4.5.11 @ 7:13PM|#
    "Geraldo reports..."

    I *hope* this is a spoof.

  • rather ||

    His ass is there; I doubt the other hurler on the ditch reports

  • sevo||

    rather |4.5.11 @ 8:40PM|#
    "His ass is there;..."

    Where? In the nearest 'luxury' hotel he can find? Repeating stories heard 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand?
    I'll believe his bullshit right after I start believing yours.

  • Would I lie to you baby?||

  • sevo||

    I've got controlling interest in the north anchorage of a local bridge and I can make you a *real* good deal on it if you act fast!

  • ||

    Is that...is that Steve Smith running across a field in that screencap?

  • sevo||

    "Is that...is that Steve Smith running across a field in that screencap?"

    Hard telling, but if Geraldo *ever* ended up in a circumstance where he could suffer a nick on the finger, you can bet he'd never get near that place again.

  • rather ||

    sloopyinca, wash your hands

  • rather ||

    sevo, prove I'm gullible with facts

  • sevo||

    rather |4.5.11 @ 9:28PM|#
    "sevo, prove I'm gullible with facts"

    OK:
    "rather |4.5.11 @ 7:13PM|#
    Geraldo reports..."
    Done.

  • Would I lie to you baby?||

    strike 2

  • sevo||

    rather |4.5.11 @ 8:40PM|#
    "His ass is there;.."

    Strike three; you're out!

  • rather||

    I get it; you're one of the exes

  • sevo||

    rather|4.5.11 @ 9:56PM|#
    "I get it; you're one of the exes"

    No, you don't get it. The conversation isn't about *YOU*, so of course, you have no ability to "get it".
    Go count your hits; nothing else matters to you, and you don't matter to anyone else.

  • rather ||

    Sevo,I love your little boy tactics when you lose. Take your two little balls and go home. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  • sevo||

    Yes, it does make you look fat.

  • rather ||

    I'm lost

  • sevo||

    OK, it doesn't make you look fat. You *are* fat.

  • ||

    I'm lost

    No. Shit.

  • rather ||

    I need to keep a scorecard of who/why I've pissed off but I have the impression that this is a 'clubhouse attack'

  • ||

    I need to keep a scorecard of who/why I've pissed off

    even us that try to read this damn blog. It's not even safe to fucking lurk anymore

  • rather ||

    hmm, ESL?

  • ||

    hmm, ESL?

    nope, 1st language. But I've been drinking. Enough to get me to read your crap. Not enough to get a buddy to give you a mercy fuck.

  • rather ||

    AA?

  • sevo||

    rather |4.5.11 @ 10:48PM|#
    "I need to keep a scorecard of who/why I've pissed off but I have the impression that this is a 'clubhouse attack'"{

    You don't seem to realize that folks get tired of "everything revolves around me". Your ego-centrism is tiresome.
    And you're fat besides.

  • rather ||

    Hmm, no I'm not and no I'm not

  • rather ||

    ego-centrism

    Interesting view because that's how I would describe the libertarian mentality:paranoid ego-dystonic

  • ||

    AA?

    nope. I don't have a problem. Unlike the attention whore at the other end of the bar.

    rather, Here's a honest question. Do you make enough money from the "blog" to get a guy drunk enough to take you home at last call?

  • rather ||

    It's Monday and you're loaded. Either you are wealthy enough to not work in the morning, or you are a functional alcoholic. Given your handle, I think the latter is likely.

    I don't make any money from the blog you know; it is anon but I could buy that guy at the end of the bar, his friend, and ring the bell before we leave.

  • ||

    It's Tuesday and I'm buzzed from happy hour (MST). I can still read a calendar.
    Can you just go away? I'd prefer the insane ranting of LoneWacko over your pathetic cries for attention.

  • ||

    I've been reading this blog for years. Out of all the trolls in that time, you are the most pathetic creature to infest these pages.

  • rather||

    Why don't you just not read me, or not respond?

    So answer my alcoholic question. How long have your family and friends asked about your drinking?

  • $||

    The monthly salaries for public sector workers in the east – 80-85 per cent of the region’s labour market – is estimated at 250m dinars ($204m), he said

    The public sector workers in the east comprise 80 to 85 percent of the labor market? That's astounding!

  • Hugh Akston||

    Running an autocracy is not a one-man job.

  • sevo||

    It's a good thing he has oil to export; hard to sell filled-out forms "X-3cF" on the international market.

  • SIV||

    They're more progressive then we are;-)

  • HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN||

    [The poetry of war!]

    Obama's Strategery

    For those who study history
    And military strategy,
    A new approach to waging war
    In ways that were untried before,
    Is rarely seen or heard:
    The old ways are preferred.

    But in these times of global strife,
    With sounds of drum and notes of fife,

    A new man joins the hall of fame
    Of leaders who receive acclaim,

    For strategy in war,
    Too brilliant to ignore.

    With Hannibal, Napoleon,
    And Kahn, the great Mongolian,

    With Brennus and with Pericles
    With Sun Tzu and Eurybiades,

    Our President does share
    A real strategic flair.

    He joins in war, almost too late,
    Makes public his withdrawal date,

    Commences action from the air,
    Then makes his enemies aware

    He'll not attack on land,
    Across the desert sand.

    Within just days, perhaps a week,
    His reputation and mystique

    For managing the world's affairs
    Achieves its peak when he declares

    He'll bomb the rebels too,
    For things that they might do.

    Perhaps another Nobel Prize
    Our friends from Stockholm could reprise,

    For excellence in strategy
    While waging war on Tripoli.

    It's merited, at worst,
    As much as was the first.

    Skep41

    Sentiments we can applaud
    But in this poem we cant avoid

    The metric folly you've deployed
    Cant help but make us be annoyed!

    Four lines with eight beats you do write
    Then two with six, its not quite right!

    The rhythm sir works not for me,
    The bard should stick to strategy.

    matoko

    And yet Moron Bush's warcrimes regime
    Was what made the whole world scream

    In history books it will be known
    The Bush Doctine sadly stands alone

    The uberstupid strategy
    of missionary democracy

    The cause of Great America's sad decline

    To banana republic in record time.

    HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN

  • Kolohe||

    you know, I was about to give you some credit for finally getting lucidity, but then I googled and saw this
    http://www.thebardofmurdock.co.....egery.html

  • ||

    GLOBAL WARMING DID IT!

  • ||

    Who would have thought eastern Libya had so much in common with DC.

  • Eastern Libya||

    Asshole.

  • ||

    Not in a country where oil for export is such a big chunk of GDP.

    According to the CIA Factbook,

    "The Libyan economy depends primarily upon revenues from the oil sector, which contribute about 95% of export earnings, 25% of GDP, and 80% of government revenue."

    It was a centrally planned economy until recently, and oh, Libya apparently has to import about 75% of its food.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ly.html

    So, between having been a centrally planned economy and being so heavily dependent on oil exports, it's not surprising that public sector workers in the east make up 80-85% of the labor market it's a Progressive paradise.

  • Mr Whipple©®™||

    Libya is/was only one of five countries that control their central bank. The other four? N. Korea, Iran, Cuba and Sudan.

  • Ibn Ben Bernanke||

    Now it appears that the anti-Qaddafi forces in eastern Libya are also running out of cash.

    I'll get right on it.

  • ||

    Please not tonight baby, I'm tired.

  • Not a copy||

    Somehow that statement sounds orginal

  • HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN||

    [THE CASE FOR LIBYAN PARTITION]

    [THE CASE FOR LIBYAN PARTITION] – Maintaining the flow of commerce, stopping the flow of weapons!

    With the Nuclear Plant Meltdowns, Japan has had to made some very hard decisions concerning its industry [Commerce], which included the transfer of a large part of its automotive industry to the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex – the [EMPIRE], which leaves many Japanese without employment and Japan paying a [Sympathy Extortion Tax] for the maintenance of [EMPIRE] troops of occupation on the Island of Okinawa. But Japan can not afford to lose all of its industry [Commerce], and still requires energy [OIL] to support remaining industries and now both Japan and Europe must be provided with [OIL] to maintain their flow of [Commerce], and this is were Libya comes into play, that Oil for Japanese and European industry [Commerce], and has to be provided for and that means Japan with its re-entry into the [OIL] Market has put a strain upon the world wide demand for [OIL], which can be determined as cost per barrel of oil against electrical hrs. For the second day in a row price of oil is [€76€/$108/USD's$] per barrel, with a steady [€1.4€/$2/USD$] per day price level increase, at [€92€/$130/USD's$] per barrel the [EMPIRE's] economy stalls according to economic strategist, therefore the price of crude must be maintained, well below that amount, maintaining the flow of oil and commerce, which requires that all existing [OIL] must be held to below the [EMPIRE] economy stall price level that will allow for the flow of [Commerce] which is tied directly to flow of [Oil] at a price per barrel below the breaking price of [€92€/$130USD's$] per barrel, and at the present rate the magic number will be reached in [11] market working days. This is why Libya will be partitioned, as the most simple, and least expensive solution as a prolonged occupation adds to the cost which has to be made up directly by the cost per barrel of [OIL]. Libya is four times the size of Germany or the [EMPIRE] state of Wisconsin with about a quarter of it having [Oil] reserves, the rest is simply not worth the cost of occupation, the solution is the partition of a small strip running the Mediterranean Sea and the eastern [OIL] rich section of the country, and therefore regime change, is not required to achieve the partitioning and plundering of Libyan [OIL]. The advantage of Libya not ousting Gaddafi, is maintaining the flow of commerce, while nipping in the bud the demand for Nuclear Weapons technology, combined with [21st] Century delivery systems to those countries that may feel the need for such weapons to ensure their sovereignty and resources, thru [R2P] combined with regime change, and not handing it Libya directly into the hands of Al Qaeda, which has to date made off with some very important weapons which have been sold on the open market to the Al-Ishah, Hamas, Hezbollah, IAF JCG, MENA, SMB, those weapons include surface to air missiles, [2K] Mustard Gas and [1.2K] Nerve Gas artillery shells, and as the conflict continues with Mission Creep, the weapons market will only increase, as regional stability decreases.


    HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN

  • Jim||

    Yes yes yes! Oh how I missed this.

  • CoyoteBlue||

    [ME Too]!!!

  • sevo||

    Well, it's [ALL] clear to me now!

  • HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN||

    IN REPLY TO KIAN MEAD

    Kian Mead wrote, in response to triathlon:

    KIAN WROTE: Err..Evidence please - especially, since the west already controlled the oilfields in Libya under Qadaffi.

    TRIATHLON REPLYS: See [RT] Russia Today, (http://rt.com/), as in an interview with a Radio Commentator, from The American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex the [EMPIRE] from the state of Illinois, the city of Chicago, it is a well know fact that these are truths, and it has always been about OIL!

    KIAN WROTE: Unless you are saying Al Qaeda is happy to allow thousands of innocent Muslims to be slaughtered by Qadiffi, so they can gain "victory". I am sure many Muslims would be interested to learn that.

    TRIATHLON REPLYS: This is about Al Qaeda allowing thousands of the Military Machine purchased, and supplied by the EMPIRE, not to be used against Al Qaeda, this is about the West and the [EMPIRE] Military Industrial Complex doing the job of lifting the heavy lode for them. This is simple military triangulation, let my enemy destroy my enemy. Both Gadiffi and the Empire are the enemies of the Greater Islamic Sphere of Parity of Influence in the middle east.

    KIAN WROTE: And in which media have you seen, anyone in the west suggesting that Qadiffi should stay?

    TRIATHLON REPLYS: You can locate that on (www.TheDailyBeast.Com), under weekend interviews on the controlled media of the west on video, Adm. Mike Mullens the head of the Pentagons Joint Chiefs of Staff of its Military Industrial Complex, has openly stated it was not now the intention of replacing Gadiffi, this is now a tactical decision, as with the forces of Gadiffi in ruin, the only forces to stop Al Qaeda is boots on the ground and just were are they to get them and what about the money, Japan is out of the question, The Peoples Democratic Republic of China and just how much debt can the [EMPIRE] go in debt to them.


    KIAN WROTE: Time to realize little boy, you and your fellow idiots are going to lose the war, not by force, but by the desires of the people of the middle east to have freedom and democracy.


    TRIATHLON REPLYS: We will not respond with insults, when you talk of the [EMPIRE] you are only talking of Washington D.C. and New York City, they have no interest in the Middle East establishing a [Parity Sphere of Influence] such as the [BRICS] Brazil, The Russian Federation, India, The Peoples Republic of China, and The Union of South Africa, which all abstained from voting for the [No Fly Zone], the [EMPIRE] as name above is interested in maintaining the status quo, with its dictators in place Israel is the dogs tail it wags the [EMPIRE] thru [AIPAC/AZC] American Israeli Political Action Committee/American Zionist Committee, who wags Washington D.C. and owns New York City. Desires of the people of the middle east to have freedom and democracy, come at the cost of Action and Blood, and hard military decisions as Al Qaeda is making


    KIAN WROTE: Or are you going to bring a theocratic government over the Arabian peninsula? See the protests in Iran last year about that little pretense...technology has over taken the influence of the Elder - no longer is all thought controlled by the Elders and Imams, the youth have access to alternate information sources.

    TRIATHLON REPLYS:

    As an epochal era of inevitable and irreversible Sirocco - Ghibili Sandstorm of change sweeps across the Middle East ending the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex [EMPIRE] of colonial subjugation thru its placement and support of autocratic, totalitarian top down Divine Right of rule, despotic rulers. Being lead by and urbanized and connected youth with a democratic fervor, willing to go their own way and face the bumpy and unstable path, at best in a transition from autocracy to democracy. Are calling for a new form Middle East [NOT] based upon, or taking instructions from a copy cat western Spiritually Void, Capitalist Greed Driven, Neo Liberal Secular Democratic System of Hypocrisy, in which more and more disenfranchised citizens are choosing not to participate in superficial elections which are controlled thru gerrymandered unchanging candidate's, western style of so called democratic elections, with no change to the status quo within its governmental ruling elite structures. By forming an Islamic Democracy, form of government established and based upon historic values of respect for human rights, based upon Islamic beliefs and values with Islamic representation, a constitutional freely elected Islamic Caliphate monarchy, of power sharing, with a Parliamentary system of opposition political parties, a co-operative amalgamation based upon rights of free association and expression, the right too petition for regress of grievances, within the religious convictions of Islam of Justice and accountability, demanding reforms, allowing the voice of the people to be heard, a free press providing the public a universal knowledge of government activities keeping a check upon government to report and abate corruption, the establishment of regional system of localized economies, ending the era of pent-up demands for higher wages, income and regulated welfare assistance, a government working in co-operation with other regional block's or regional association members to form a regional sphere of parity, in the new Multi-Polar [21st] Century, in line with the [BRICS] Brazil, The Russian Federation, India, The Democratic Peoples Republic of China, and The Union of South Africa, and the [EU] European Union.

    KIAN WROTE: Try to take their iphones away, and see what they would do to you.

    Little boy, realize, you have lost. And it was not by the failed western governments policies, but the freedoms we have, and those youth can see what we have, and desire the same.

    So go bomb your fellow Arabs, for not being Islamic enough, and see how Islam will die - at the hands of AL Qaeda.

    TRIATHLON REPLYS: We again do not return insults, the fact is there will be some from of a constitutional freely elected Islamic Caliphate monarchy, a new middle east, the days of one Super Power [EMPIRE] World Government is coming to its end, replaced by [Parity Spheres of Influence] it will take a decade to see how the Arab Spring of Revolution shakes out, but it will not be violence free, Al Qaeda is willing to do what it takes, and to date have been taking it to the [EMPIRE], in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain not being Islamic enough seem to be losing the day as Muslims are killing Muslims supporting puppets who support the [EMPIRE].


    HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN

  • ||

    [wipes sweat from brow]

    Oh God. I beat my dick so hard, I almost blacked out.

  • Masturbatin' Pete||

    Amateur!

  • ||

    If you just put just half of that crazy energy into learning to play the guitar or somethin'?

    You'd be a total rock star by now!

  • Mr Whipple©®™||

    Did anybody get the license plate number of that truck?

  • sevo||

    "When you get to the point of rationing liquidity, whether local or foreign currency, we are on the edge of a crisis,” he said."

    When 80-85% of the workforce is employed by the government, you're well past any 'edge of a crises'.
    Sorry, but you folks had better figure out how to make and sell something people want to buy.

  • ||

    US foreign policy: whining Arab hearts and minds since 2002.

  • .||

    Whining?

  • ||

    So it would seem.

  • db||

    Whining the Future!

  • Mr Whipple©®™||

    So they are untrained, have no real leader, no plan on how to dislodge Qaddafi, and are chronically short on weapons and supplies. Now it appears that the anti-Qaddafi forces in eastern Libya are also running out of cash

    That may be so, but they do, apparently, have the expertise to set up a new central bank and national oil corporation.

    The rebels in Libya are in the middle of a life or death civil war and Moammar Gadhafi is still in power and yet somehow the Libyan rebels have had enough time to establish a new Central Bank of Libya and form a new national oil company. Perhaps when this conflict is over those rebels can become time management consultants. They sure do get a lot done. What a skilled bunch of rebels - they can fight a war during the day and draw up a new central bank and a new national oil company at night without any outside help whatsoever. If only the rest of us were so versatile! But isn't forming a central bank something that could be done after the civil war is over? According to Bloomberg, the Transitional National Council has "designated the Central Bank of Benghazi as a monetary authority competent in monetary policies in Libya and the appointment of a governor to the Central Bank of Libya, with a temporary headquarters in Benghazi." Apparently someone felt that it was very important to get pesky matters such as control of the banks and control of the money supply out of the way even before a new government is formed.

    http://uruknet.info/?p=m76342&hd;=&size=1&l=e

  • sevo||

    "Apparently someone felt that it was very important to get pesky matters such as control of the banks and control of the money supply out of the way even before a new government is formed."

    Not to defend them, but not sure I can fault 'the rebels' for this.
    If you want popular support, you better have the means to make sure folks can buy and sell.

  • Mr Whipple©®™||

    I think the point is, that the rebels could not, and did not do this. The rebels are just pawns of the Arab League, and the EU. They are not really fighting for freedom, they are fighting to turn control of their country over to the EU.

  • sevo||

    Mr Whipple©®™|4.5.11 @ 10:49PM|#
    "I think the point is, that the rebels could not, and did not do this."

    OK, that passes the sniff test, reinforced by the statement that '80-85% are government employees'. They're responding to the 'new' authority.
    So we're sorta choosing sides in the Ana Nicole Smith inheritance case...

  • rather ||

    without any outside help whatsoever
    ya

  • ||

    they do, apparently, have the expertise to set up a new central bank and national oil corporation.

    There's an app for that.

  • Masturbatin' Pete||

    Now it appears that the anti-Qaddafi forces in eastern Libya are also running out of cash.

    Well that's easily fixed. Just have The Ben Bernank expand the Fed's balance sheet, then airdrop bales of Federal Reserve Notes. If it's good enough for America, it's good enough for a God-forsaken patch of sand.

  • Bradley||

    Just have The Ben Bernank expand the Fed's balance sheet, then airdrop bales of Federal Reserve Notes

    The sad thing is that this, essentially, is how the war is being paid for.

  • Vermont Gun Owner||

    If we launch them with enough velocity we can get a double whammy and use them as kinetic warhead on Qaddafi, then let the rebels clean up the money filled rubble.

  • ||

    "Another Obama money-bomb. Brought to you by the Center for American Progress. Please donate generously because the evil Kochtopus is already dumping millions, no billions, into the Ron Paul campaign in an effort to buy the White House in 2012"

  • ||

    It sucks that fifteen years after Bosnia NATO is still an American operation with European bling. Look at the CnC-paperwork clusterfuck that now 'runs' the NFZ. They have no operational capability despite all those shiny Typhoons and Rafales. I mean those hot rods are sitting ten minutes away in Sicily and they can't get shit on target within two, three hours of a vector? Damn baby.

    So now the goat herders are going to get run - in a bloody protracted beat-down - all the way back to Benghazi or what?

    It would serve Obama right if the still-run-by-the-Army Egypt (who's anyone kidding? Nasser was Army guy, Sadat was Army guy, Mubarak was Army Air Force but its all the same over there) five-finger discounted eastern Libya and got an oil patch of their own on the cheap...with M1 tanks and F-16's paid for by American credit and Chinese loans no less. Hahaha.

  • ||

    The only thing that keeps me going at a time like this, the only thing that gives me hope, is knowing that we're all going to die anyway and it doesn't really matter what happens.

  • Jules||

    Explore the wasteland of a once great nation with me. Be my hacker side kick. I'll brew peyote tea to expand our minds for the adventure and I'll rig the van for biodiesel utilizing road kill for our travel and energy needs. You can tap into stray parabolas of wireless signal in the middle of the desert for us.

  • Ghost||

    Hydrogen bombs. That's what America needs, is hydrogen bombs. I forget why we stopped developing them but I thought you were supposed to be able to wipe out entire regions with them, and with minimal radioactive fallout.

    The next time some patch of earth pisses off the president he can just wipe the slate clean. He'll look real tough and get re-elected.

    "Those people were in so much misery, we really did them a big favor."

    Life gets so much simpler with hydrogen bombs. And I'll bet it'd be a lot cheaper than what we've been doing for the last decade.

  • Xenocles||

    Pretty sure you mean neutron bombs, since just about every modern nuclear warhead is a hydrogen bomb.

  • ||

    Pretty sure you mean neutron bombs, since just about every modern nuclear warhead is a hydrogen bomb.

    Neutron and hydrogen bombs are same thing actually.

  • ||

    I think the US need sto start minding its own business, deal with its own problems.

    www.anon-tools.no.tc

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  • Progressive Puritans: From e-cigs to sex classifieds, the once transgressive left wants to criminalize fun.
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  • The Menace of Secret Government: Obama’s proposed intelligence reforms don’t safeguard civil liberties

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