Ronald Bailey | September 22, 2009
The mantra of would-be health care reformers is that the U.S. spends much more on health care than other industrialized countries, yet America ranks below average on major health indicators, including infant mortality and life expectancy.
Well, yes. Reformers generally imply that our dysfunctional and expensive health care system is to blame. Not so fast, say University of Pennsylvania demographers Sam Preston and Jessica Ho. In a recent study they conclude:
Life expectancy in the United States fares poorly in international comparisons, primarily because of high mortality rates above age 50. Its low ranking is often blamed on a poor performance by the health care system rather than on behavioral or social factors. This paper presents evidence on the relative performance of the US health care system using death avoidance as the sole criterion. We find that, by standards of OECD countries, the US does well in terms of screening for cancer, survival rates from cancer, survival rates after heart attacks and strokes, and medication of individuals with high levels of blood pressure or cholesterol. We consider in greater depth mortality from prostate cancer and breast cancer, diseases for which effective methods of identification and treatment have been developed and where behavioral factors do not play a dominant role. We show that the US has had significantly faster declines in
mortality from these two diseases than comparison countries. We conclude that the low longevity ranking of the United States is not likely to be a result of a poorly functioning health care system.
Citing the Preston and Ho study, New York Times science journalist John Tierney notes:
But there are many more differences between Europe and the United States than just the health care system. Americans are more ethnically diverse. They eat different food. They are fatter. Perhaps most important, they used to be exceptionally heavy smokers. For four decades, until the mid-1980s, per-capita cigarette consumption was higher in the United States (particularly among women) than anywhere else in the developed world. Dr. Preston and other researchers have calculated that if deaths due to smoking were excluded, the United States would rise to the top half of the longevity rankings for developed countries.
Back in 2008, I cited some of the same evidence and arguments in my column, "Accidents, Murders, Preemies, Fat, and U.S. Life Expectancy." After listing our many unhealthy proclivities, I optimistically concluded:
Taking all these unhealthy proclivities into consideration, the American health care system is most likely not to blame for our lower life expectancies. Instead, American health care is rescuing enough of us from the consequences of our bad health habits to keep our ranking from being even lower.
To repeat, Preston and Ho conclude:
The question that we have posed is much simpler: does a poor performance by the US health care system account for the low international ranking of longevity in the US? Our answer is, “no”.
See Preston and Ho study here and Tierney's insightful column here.
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This can't possibly be the case. I mean greedy insurance companies and heartless doctors watching people die and selfishness and greed greed greed greed szkkkkkkzszzkkkzzzz
Didn't the U.S. rate #1 in health care professionals taking the time to explain their diagnosis, attitude towards their patients, and other factors that make the experience "care" instead of mere "treatment?"
In this study the US ranks 1st, when accidents and murder are
adjusted out of the figures.
http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/does-the-us-lead-in-life-expectancy-223/
You don't even need to get this technical about it. America has
more per capita fatal car accidents and more per capita murders
than other OECD countries. Factor those out, and the US suddenly
leads the OECD in life expectancy.
Don't get me wrong, fatal car accidents and murders are serious
problems that need to be solved. But they're not health care
problems. It's not like the French are suffering as many gunshot
wounds, but their superior health care is healing them instead of
letting them die on the streets. The French just don't suffer as
many serious gunshot wounds.
As for infant mortality, we all know by now that each country
defines this metric differently, so the numbers aren't entirely
comparable.
The American health system still needs serious reform, but we
should at least be clear about what it can and can't do.
So will this change the debate? Or will it be like the last 15 times a study showed that the plain average of age of death is not a telling metric.
In this study the US ranks 1st, when accidents and murder
are adjusted out of the figures.
That's racism, straight up.
That's racism, straight up.
If only.
These stat-cloudy ways of not mentioning that there are only about
thirty-five black guys in Europe do get tedious.
So, our healthcare system is busted due to high crime
rates?
This is why the new health care bill has strict gun control
provisions, lower speed limits, and lots of money for ultra-safe
high-speed rail.
Don't get me wrong, fatal car accidents and murders are
serious problems that need to be solved. But they're not health
care problems.
Odd, then, that the Centers for Disease Control are constantly
doing studies on murder and gun violence.
Isn't the government already heavily involved in murder and automobile regulation? What gives?
ultra-safe high-speed rail
Having mastered
low-speed rail, i think this sounds like a magnificent idea.
Instead, American health care is rescuing enough of us from
the consequences of our bad health habits to keep our ranking from
being even lower.
This begs the question - you have to assume the ranking is valid
(i.e. objective, not subjective or political) for the argument to
stick.
I contend that the ranking given by the World Health Organization
cannot be any different in its premises than any other statistic
given by a political bureaucracy, like the CPI or the unemployment
rate. If people simply cite the ranking without looking at the
premises behind the statistic, then the ranking is meaningless,
does not matter if the US was No. 1.
So... Americans die sooner because... we have more freedom to choose our lifestyles?!
It's true that life expectancy alone is a poor indicator of
quality of, or access to, health care. On the other hand there are
many other statistics- cost of care, access to a primary care
physician, use of emergency facilities for non-acute conditions,
infant mortality, bankruptcy due to healthcare cost, etc.- that
also indicate that something is out of sorts in the American health
care system. Life expectancy alone does not prove that something is
wrong with US health care, but by the same token the fact that
American life expectancy is more complex than the numbers indicate
doesn't mean that everything is just fine.
Furthermore, the real critique posed by health care reformers is
not of the performance of the health care system on average, but
rather its accessibility and propensity for bankrupting patients.
The performance of the US system is fine- it's its cost and
accessibility that pose long-term challenges to both the health of
American society and its bottom line.
Okay, so if everything you say is true, then we are paying the
most for merely average returns instead of bad ones. We are paying
Mercedes prices for a Hyundai.
. . .if deaths due to smoking were excluded, the United States would rise to the top half of the longevity rankings for developed countries.
Furthermore, the real critique posed by health care reformers is not of the performance of the health care system on average, but rather its accessibility and propensity for bankrupting patients. The performance of the US system is fine- it's its cost and accessibility that pose long-term challenges to both the health of American society and its bottom line.
If the U.S. adopts price controls, bankruptcies will decrease.
max hats-
Gubmint. Of course, that includes all the rent seeking allopathic
jihaddist scum like the AMA and, of course, licensure.
The inconvenient fact remains that we pay much more on health care per person than countries with actual outright socialized healthcare do, and with far less to show for it.
An other interesting study:
http://www.nber.org/papers/w13429
« It is commonly supposed that a publicly funded single payer
health care system will deliver better health outcomes, and
distribute health resources more fairly than a multi-payer system
with a large private component.
Health status is similar in both countries. But Canada has no more
abolished the tendency for health status to improve with income
than have other countries. Indeed, the health-income gradient is
more prominent in Canada than it is in the U.S. The need to ration
when care is delivered "free" ultimately leads to long waits or
unavailable services and to unmet needs. In the U.S. costs are more
often a source of unmet needs. But costs may be more easily
overcome than the absence of services. »
@max hats (from the report):
"For the major sites of lung, breast, prostate, colon, and rectum
cancers, US survival rates were the highest of any of the 18
countries investigated. Cancers first diagnosed on the death
certificate (5% in Europe and 1% in the US) were excluded from
analysis; if they had been included, the US survival advantage
would have increased."
Being #1 in cancer survival among developed countries is "less to
show for it"? Did your wife cheat on a cancer patient or
something?
For four decades, until the mid-1980s, per-capita cigarette
consumption was higher in the United States (particularly among
women) than anywhere else in the developed world.
I thought the big news was that we used to smoke more than the
French did. Who'd of thunk it?
Government run health care - the so-called "public option" - presents serious challenges for us. The private sector and competitive market forces are the best means to meeting health care needs. Watch this video from the U.S. Chamber http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/media/
The inconvenient fact remains that we pay much more on health care per person than countries with actual outright socialized healthcare do, and with far less to show for it.
One problem is that the police
arrest doctors for overprescribing pain medication .
Dr. Preston and other researchers have calculated that if
deaths due to smoking were excluded, the United States would rise
to the top half of the longevity rankings for developed
countries.
And if they left out deaths due to heart disease, alcohol and
diabetes, I bet we would rank real high, right?
And if they left out deaths due to heart disease, alcohol
and diabetes, I bet we would rank real high, right?
If the intention is to make an apples-to-apples comparison between
health care systems and their effect on the life expectancy of a
population, then you have to control for cultural differences.
some basic considerations about stats (averages) will help here:
there are more smokers in europe.
but their health stats seem to be similar to those of european
non-smokers,
since
crass differences between europe and the usa –in europe’s favor–
disappear
when you remove smokers from the comparison.
this means that usa smokers fare horribly compared to european
smokers (or,
much less likely, that european smokers have much better health
stats than
european non-smokers).
it’s almost sure that usa smokers fare much much worse than
european ones,
simply because smoking is a lower-class thing in the usa.
so among usa smokers there must also be many more diabetics, drug
addicts,
alcoholics, reckless drivers, wife beaters, hypertension
acrobats,
overweighters, etc, i.e., people who do all those things that
make “life
worth living”TM.
in other words, the usa’s “melting pot”TM not only segregates by
race and
class, but also by morbidity, three things that because of
"manifest
destiny"TM tend to coincide!
the country indeed gives the poor and the lower middle class the
“freedoom
to choose”TM to be diabetics, drug addicts, alcoholics, reckless
drivers,
wife beaters, hypertension acrobats, or overweighters, etc, a
very diverse
“plethora of opportunities”TM to choose from, opportunities that
these less
deserving classes like to take as a combo more often than not.
obviously europeans are not enjoying these basic freedoms as
freely –oh
freedom! as aretha would put it– (although europeans have been
catching up
thanks to the recent efforts for “labor flexibility”, “private
pensions”, by
some of their most illuminated –if venal– leaders and
intellectuals).
so the innocuous exclusion of smokers “for fairness” by the
authors removed
many of the most self-destructive poor and under-insured people
from the usa
data and left more affluent, better educated, more
health-conscious
upper-class usa people to be compared with a more random segment
of the
european population. not exactly fair, one would say.
one has to wonder though if the authors did not know about this
in advance
and, if they did not, why on earth they chose not to dissect the
above
superior health of european smokers that the effect of the
smokers’
exclusion made evident.
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