Ronald Bailey | September 9, 2009
Many conservationists around the
world favor enacting and enforcing laws to prohibit capturing or
killing rare species. Such laws, it turns out, have unintended
consequences. Scientific American reports that laws
listing species as endangered can transform them into valuable
black market commodities. As an example, the article notes that
Indonesian government's listing of the Javan hawk eagle as
endangered attracted the attention of poachers who had long ignored
the bird. According to SciAm:
To celebrate the raptor's official "National Rare/Precious Animal" designation, the Indonesian government printed the Javan hawk eagle's likeness on postage stamps and phone books. Soon zookeepers and illegal pet collectors were clamoring for one of their own, and the birds began popping up for sale in markets around Indonesia. In a study published earlier this year in Oryx, researchers from the University of Amsterdam's zoological museum concluded that ever since the Indonesian government officially labeled Javan hawk eagles as rare and precious, illegal poaching has removed the birds from the wild at an ever-escalating pace. Over the period from 1975 to 1991, just three were sighted for sale in Indonesian markets; in recent years 30 to 40 of the eagles have been spotted in markets annually.
Why does listing as "endangered" further endanger some species?
Perceived rareness makes animals more appealing to collectors and the increasingly limited supply pushes their price up on the black market, making illegal trapping and hunting more lucrative. Wildlife that once existed under the radar suffers from sudden visibility and faddish appeal. In an ironic coup de grâce, endangered species designation can sometimes escalate poaching to the point that it wipes out the species it was intended to protect.
Then there are the tasty endangered animals. The SciAm article notes that some connoisseurs of rare abalones and turtles find that rarity enhances their flavor.
Of course, listing a species as endangered often has other unintended consequences. In the U.S., the prospect of a listing a new species encourages landowners who fear new restrictions on their property to shoot, shovel, and shut up.
Whole ironic SciAm article here.
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" laws listing species as endangered can transform them into
valuable black market commodities"
It doesn't create the demand, it just, by boosting the price,
incentivizes suppliers. But if a species is endangered the demand
itself is a danger.
I often see people argue that making drugs illegal somehow induces
more people to use it because the price goes up and that
incentivizes suppliers, but that's crazy. Raising the prices really
high makes some people get rich supplying it, and that incentivizes
supply, but it also surely lowers demand. I mean, that's pretty
basic economics, no?
I'm lookin' to gettin' me one of them Pelosi Birds, for stuffin' and shit.
some connoisseurs of rare abalones and turtles find that
rarity enhances their flavor.
What the hell? Do they smell their own farts, too?
MNG:
yes to a degree. drugs however are not a rational product as they
cause irrational behaviour, so the decrease in demand does not
follow the same trend as other commodities do.
w/ regard to scarcity, it can have an effect on demand as people
react differently to the notion of scarcity than the notion of
surplus
MNG,
I actually believe that making drugs illegal does create users
because many of them are kids and they want to know the big deal is
and why the drugs are illegal in the first place.
However, that only flies for the first few times.
But then again, I'm dumb.
Oh, and shut the fuck up Animal rights fuckheads. Next you'll be telling me health care is a right...
I mean, that's pretty basic economics, no?
No. As counter-intuitive as it seems, supply creates its own
demand. "Supply" is more than just the availablity of a product. It
also assumes some level of sales and marketing. So a better
rephrasing would be "suppliers create their own demand".
p.s. Of course, some goods have anti-demand, so that no matter how
much is supplied, no one wants it. Turd sandwiches for example.
Sort of like National Geographic touting, say, Costa Rican rain forests in one issue and then later decrying how increased tourism is destroying the rain forest.
The reason that "Shoot, shovel, and shut up" is a problem is
because the endangered species law attempts to achieve a public
good [species preservation] but places all of the costs of
achieving that good on individual property holders and none on the
public.
That cost/benefit system would have to be completely reversed for
the "unintended consequences" effect to go away.
true enough fluffy, sad it has to be explained. people will intentionally eradicate wildlife to avoid interaction w/ the federal govt.
Rarity adds value. Awareness of rarity alerts people to the
value. Demand rises.
These are luxury goods for conspicuous consumption. The rational
actor guidelines go out the window.
INDEED! THE URKOBOLD PAYS TOP DOLLAR FOR THE FLESH OF EX-PRESIDENTS AND OTHER FORMER WORLD LEADERS. MMMM, TASTY.
And don't call that noble bird a Pelosi. It's already going extinct, hasn't it suffered enough?
From the Brickbats:
The Georgia Department of Natural Resources seized 500 turtles
from Steve Santhuff, alleging his possession of them was illegal. A
jury ruled in Santhuff's favor and the DNR had to return the
turtles to Santhuff. Well, the agency returned some of them. More
than 300 of the turtles died while in the agency's
possession.
An isolated incident, I'm sure.
In an ironic coup de grâce, endangered species designation can sometimes escalate poaching to the point that it wipes out the species it was intended to protect.
I have time to only skim the article, but I did not see any sort of
citation for that. Was it there? Did I miss that?
Turd sandwiches for example.
I don't know, they tend to get an awful lot of votes every four
years.
Once again, Reason just doesn't get it. The question isn't
whether we need EngangeredSpecies laws or not, it's whether we need
any EngangeredSpecies at all. The very fact that they could be
considered EngangeredSpecies implies that - in the marketplace of
the jungle or whatever habitat they're in - they're losers. Let
them go the way of the Dodo and pave the way for new, improved,
Monstanto/Dow/DuPont-engineered species that will be better adapted
to their environments.
Note: this comment was not sponsored by Monstanto/Dow/DuPont, but
if they want to send me money that would be great.
It doesn't create the demand, it just, by boosting the
price, incentivizes suppliers.
Did you read the post, MNG?
Soon zookeepers and illegal pet collectors were clamoring for
one of their own,
I have always found that endangered species barbeque a bit better than the more common kind.
Rarity adds value. Awareness of rarity alerts people to the
value. Demand rises.
These are luxury goods for conspicuous consumption. The rational
actor guidelines go out the window.
Ding ding ding.
We have a winner.
My painting are even rarer than Jackson Pollock's. They display
just as much talent but becuase nobody knows about them, nobody
wants them.
That said, I don't think that endangered species protection needs
to be abolished. Reformed certainly, but I'm onboard with outlawing
the taking of endangered species for personal gain.
To celebrate the raptor's official "National Rare/Precious
Animal" designation, the Indonesian government printed the Javan
hawk eagle's likeness on postage stamps and phone books.
This seems to indicate that the unintended consequences came not
from the designation, but from the advertising campaign, no?
This does not mean that the general problem that Ron hints at is
not real, but in this particular case, it sounds like the problem
lies with the wide-spread advertising that "we have a cool looking
rare bird in our country."
Was there ever a demand for American Bald Eagles, Red Tailed Hawks, Peregrine Falcons or Ospreys ?
Tricky: Actually in the past many state governments offered bounties for killing hawks and eagles as vermin. So, yes.
Was there ever a demand for American Bald Eagles, Red Tailed
Hawks, Peregrine Falcons or Ospreys ?
Yes.
Rich countries are better able to deal with these miscreants than
poor countries. Indonesia presents apecial difficulties being an
archipelago with many unique habitats and rare species.
Tricky:
Yes indeed, my father-in-law owned a pet hawk in the Bad Old Days
before raptors were protected.
And then there's always the legions of white Wannabees who desire
genuine eagle feathers to attach to the made-in-Hong Kong
dreamcatcher on their living room wall.
Tricky: Actually in the past many state governments offered
bounties for killing hawks and eagles as vermin. So, yes.
Yeah, but they weren't on the ESL then, were they? It
wasn't until DDT that they were placed on the list.
And I guess the roundabout point I was trying to make was it (being
placed on the ESL) didn't seem to effect their reintroduction into
areas like mine: Southern NJ. My state went to great lengths to
reintroduce these birds, with amazing success, I just can't imagine
anyone wanting to fuck with any of these birds, not even the
reddest of rednecks from Fairton, NJ. In fact, I'm sure you'd get a
firm ass beating and arrested if you were caught by anyone in NJ
messing with these birds. Now, the Canada Geese, that's a different
story.
"It also assumes some level of sales and marketing."
Yeah, all that marketing by drug lords and sellers of crushed rhino
horn...
RC
Being put on the list did not create the rarity that would spur
zoo-keepers and pet owners. It just recognized it.
ransom
Yes, that was a spoof.
of course the price goes up, any product will raise in price if it goes from being sold legally to being sold on the black market. however, the demand probably does go up because buyers of endangered species likely seek them because of their rarity.
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I live on a farm which hosts at least 4 types of animals and
plants which are on my state's endangered species list. I'm sure
that biologists would not only love to study them or at least count
them especially since one of the species is well outside of its
known range. Given the consequences of telling the state those
species exist on my land there is no way I'm telling them. As they
say, I'd like to avoid any Imperial entanglements. They'd be
meddling in the way I run and use my land in no time. You can't
plow here. You can't have cattle there. You can't drive equipment
over there. You can't have a stream crossing. You can't clear land.
You can't cut that tree.
No thanks.
I just read up as much as I can and protect and encourage the
species in question as I see fit and keep it to myself.
The question is not whether placing an animal on the list
creates (or increases) demand. It's also not so obvious that
hindsight would have predicted or helped hinder the "unintended
consequences".
Too many factors play a part: rarity, severity of punishment,
general measure of adherence of the population to the law, cultural
attitudes to animals and endangered species, religious attitudes
(e.g., monkeys and cows in India) and per capita income, just to
name a few.
The question is whether the INTENDED consequences of protecting an
animal outweigh the UNINTENDED consequences, for the animal, the
environment, the economy.
In the US, intended consequences include physical protection (not
just on the books), severe crimes for violation, additional
funding, pro-active assistance in reintroducing and re-breeding
endangered species, setting up protected regions, etc. For the most
part, and despite illegal poaching, the US program has been a
success.
So if Indonesia can put their money where their mouth is, the
intended consequences minus the unintended consequences should end
up in favor of the bird. Right now, the ball is in the Indonesian
government's hands.
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