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Che Guevara on Wall Street
My wife and I spent the Labor Day weekend enjoying the delights of New York City. Walking along Wall Street, we were startled when we glanced into the window of the upscale Tourbillon Boutique watch and jewelry shop at 45 Wall Street. Surrounded by pink and green enameled and bejeweled single cigar cases was a glossy humidor adorned with Alberto Korda's romanticized "Guerrillero Heroico" photo of communist thug Che Guevara:
As an added bonus, the humidor is inscribed in silver script with the slogan "Hasta la victoria siempre," which is the title of an adoring 1999 documentary on the life of the Leninist murderer. One part of my mind marvels at capitalism's protean ability to make money from any image, while another part is disgusted by the lack of historical memory that makes that an apparently palatable possibility.
For more on the Che vogue, see my colleague Nick Gillespie's excellent (and disturbing) Reason TV video, "Killer Chic: Hollywood's Sick Love Affair with Che Guevara." Nick asks, "We are rightly horrified by fascist murders. Why aren't we also horrified by communist killers?" Good question.
|9.9.09 @ 11:17AM|#
I wonder how many screenplays are out there about him that haven't been produced because it's hard to overlook his killings and make him a hero. Or, how many screenwriters sat down to tell his story and upon researching their subject, decided he was too horrible? I wonder if I could write a negative account of him and get Hollywood to produce it. Might find willing studios and no one to act in it.
Xeones|9.9.09 @ 11:18AM|#
I think it's a fitting tribute to this murderous scum to memorialize him in such a way that it completely negates everything he believed in. Fuck Che Guevara, yo.
|9.9.09 @ 11:21AM|#
I saw a college student the other day wearing the Che T-shirt
and a beret. A Nike beret with the swoosh and the Air
Jordan silhouette.
Just a clueless youth brightening up my day.
|9.9.09 @ 11:51AM|#
I saw a college student the other day wearing the Che
T-shirt and a beret. A Nike beret with the swoosh and the Air
Jordan silhouette.
I only wish there was some way to enforce the notion to that twit
that Che would have likely shot him on sight.
Consistency Now!|9.9.09 @ 11:51AM|#
Che was a murderer, but George Washington crossed the Delaware to give tea and crumpets to the Hessians.
Cabeza de Vaca|9.9.09 @ 12:01PM|#
"Che was a murderer, but George Washington crossed the Delaware
to give tea and crumpets to the Hessians."
I don't recall anyone here claiming Washington doesn't have blood
on his hands.
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 12:05PM|#
I don't recall anyone here claiming Washington doesn't have
blood on his hands.
Nobody here bitches about Washington t-shirts, either.
Anon|9.9.09 @ 12:10PM|#
"Che was a murderer, but George Washington crossed the Delaware
to give tea and crumpets to the Hessians."
Attacking mercenaries employed by the enemy army is just like
rounding up ordinary people who happen to have different views and
executing them without trial.
|9.9.09 @ 12:13PM|#
Is it National False Equivalency Day already? Stupid iPhone calendar forgot to remind me.
Consistency Now!|9.9.09 @ 12:14PM|#
"Attacking mercenaries employed by the enemy army is just
like rounding up ordinary people who happen to have different views
and executing them without trial."
I'm sure George Washington always observed due process! He would
never tell a lie! And maybe you're right, and Washington's actions
at Jumonville Glen are more like rounding up and killing ordinary
people.
|9.9.09 @ 12:21PM|#
"Che was a murderer, but George Washington crossed the
Delaware to give tea and crumpets to the Hessians."
So... According to your revisionist moral equivalency, exactly how
many Hessians did George Washington summarily execute after the
Battle of Trenton? There were 20 Hessians
killed in action at Trenton, which is a far cry from the
hundreds Guevara personally ordered to be executed.
Atanarjuat|9.9.09 @ 12:28PM|#
Washington's actions at Jumonville Glen are more like
rounding up and killing ordinary people.
According to Wikipedia, they were
soldiers in uniform, killed in an ambush.
Consistency Now!|9.9.09 @ 12:28PM|#
"So... According to your revisionist moral equivalency,
exactly how many Hessians did George Washington summarily execute
after the Battle of Trenton?"
Gen. William T. Sherman was a jovial fellow as well.
Tomcat1066|9.9.09 @ 12:29PM|#
And maybe you're right, and Washington's actions at
Jumonville Glen are more like rounding up and killing ordinary
people.
Jumonville Glen was an ambush of French military forces. Try
again.
|9.9.09 @ 12:29PM|#
"I'm sure George Washington always observed due process! He
would never tell a lie! And maybe you're right, and Washington's
actions at Jumonville Glen are more like rounding up and killing
ordinary people."
By "rounding up and killing ordinary people", of course, you mean
engaging armed French soldiers during hostilities...
Consistency Now!|9.9.09 @ 12:31PM|#
"According to Wikipedia, they were soldiers in uniform,
killed in an ambush."
.....during peace time against non-combatants. What do we call
that? "War" if you're American. "Murder" if you're Che.
Anon|9.9.09 @ 12:31PM|#
"I'm sure George Washington always observed due process! He
would never tell a lie! And maybe you're right, and Washington's
actions at Jumonville Glen are more like rounding up and killing
ordinary people."
You might have a point if by ordinary people you mean French
soldiers, and if by Washington's actions, you mean those of his
Indian allies.
Consistency Now!|9.9.09 @ 12:32PM|#
"during hostilities"
I think you meant "engaging French officers before the start of
hostilities, and starting a war over the murders".
LTCM was all my fault|9.9.09 @ 12:34PM|#
I live at 37 Wall. That place used to be a Starbucks less than a
year ago that shut down when Starbucks closed hundreds of locations
in NYC during the height of the recession.
Used to see my fair share of people wearing Che shirts in there
when it was a Starbucks...the more things change...
@|9.9.09 @ 12:34PM|#
Why engage an idiot who would mention Washington and Guevara in the same foul breath?
|9.9.09 @ 12:36PM|#
"Daddy, what did you do during the troll wars?"
"I ignored the useless pieces of shit, Bobby. It was the most
effective weapon we had."
Urkobold™|9.9.09 @ 12:38PM|#
IF YOU CONTINUE STRAINING SO HARD TO PRODUCE SHIT, YOU'LL HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND DIE. LIKE ELVIS.
Tomcat1066|9.9.09 @ 12:41PM|#
I think you meant "engaging French officers before the start
of hostilities, and starting a war over the murders".
These were military forces under arms in disputed territory.
Washington believed that this was a raiding party - you know, a
hostile force - and that his actions were defensive in
nature.
Once again, try again.
Anon|9.9.09 @ 12:46PM|#
I see I gave Straw Man Now! too much credit. I thought he was bringing up Jumonville Glen because Jumonville was tomahawked by Washington's Indian ally Tanacharison after the French surrendered. I didn't realize he was actually trying to equate the ambush with Che's "tribunals".
|9.9.09 @ 12:47PM|#
The Nazis had courts.
Americans have courts.
All American courts are Nazi courts.
Citizen Nothing|9.9.09 @ 12:54PM|#
I love me some William Tecumseh "War is all hell" Sherman. I really do. I wish they had Sherman t-shirts so I could wear one on my next trip to Atlanta.
|9.9.09 @ 12:57PM|#
Nick asks, "We are rightly horrified by fascist murders. Why
aren't we also horrified by communist killers?"
Because national socialists are SOOO different from international
socialists that good leftists can try to pull the wool over our
eyes and claim that Hitler's Germany wasn't really socialism.
Or at least not socialism run by the RIGHT people? (The "left"
people?)
|9.9.09 @ 12:58PM|#
While there's probably some truth to the idea that we whitewash our own heroes and demonize the other guy's heroes, Washington vs. Che? Really?
|9.9.09 @ 12:58PM|#
So, what do they want for the humidor?
If its not too much, I might buy it for my dogs to piss on.
|9.9.09 @ 1:17PM|#
I wish they had Sherman t-shirts so I could wear one on my
next final trip to Atlanta.
FIFY
(I don't give a shit, but some kid I punched in 8th grade would
"have words with you, sir." No kidding, his name was Bobby
Lee.)
The Gobbler|9.9.09 @ 1:28PM|#
"Nobody here bitches about Washington t-shirts, either."
Has anyone eever seen one? I haven't.
I, Kahn O\'Clast|9.9.09 @ 1:36PM|#
I worked on Wall Street for more than a decade (well, World Financial Center isn't excatly on Wall Street, but it was Lehman Bros.) and throughout I had a Che ashtray on my desk (on a bond trading floor). At least I was being ironic.
|9.9.09 @ 1:52PM|#
We give Sherman his props here in Michigan.
At the bottom of the granite monument roost four bronze eagles. On the next tier are four figures representing the miltary services: Infantry, Artillery, Cavalry, and Marine. Bronzed medallions of Lincoln, Grant, Sherman, and Farragut are spaced between. And, just below the figure of Michigan are four allegorical figures representing Victory, Union, Emancipation, and History. [emphasis added]
It's a really cool memorial.
|9.9.09 @ 1:53PM|#
I like the thought of grinding out my (non-Cuban) cigars on
Che's face. That works for me, I.
I don't buy Cubans, even when overseas, because every dollar that
you spend on a Cuban goes into the Castros' pockets.
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 1:55PM|#
Has anyone eever seen one? I haven't.
If you did see t-shirts of his patrician, slave-holding, war
criminal, revolutionary ass, would you bitch? Be honest, now.
NeonCat|9.9.09 @ 2:56PM|#
@ Citizen Nothing
Demographically, Atlanta has been overrun with carpetbaggers former
sons and daughters of the Northern states, so your Sherman shirt
might get a few looks, but most of them would be people wondering
who that was on your shirt, and why you had such an obviously
subversive statement about war.
Now, in rural Georgia, OTOH…
Gen. Akbar|9.9.09 @ 3:07PM|#
Jesus, did Elemonope just troll on over here on the way back from his latest Grievance Studies lecture at the Student Union? Trolls, BE GONE I SAY!
|9.9.09 @ 3:20PM|#
Has anyone eever seen one? I haven't.
Maybe a hemp shirt probably worn by someone who also owns a Che
shirt. You know, I bet I will see at least one of the latter 10
days from now at Lark Fest in Albany. I may bring a fact sheet to
hand out just for fun. I typically only go for the food and the
contact high.
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 4:04PM|#
Weak, man, weak.
Really? He was a slaveholder, an example of perhaps the ultimate
violation of freedom humans have yet conceived, but he gets a pass
because...why?
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 4:07PM|#
Gen. Akbar | September 9, 2009, 3:07pm | #
Jesus, did Elemonope just troll on over here on the way back from
his latest Grievance Studies lecture at the Student Union? Trolls,
BE GONE I SAY!
ITSATRAP!!!
|9.9.09 @ 4:16PM|#
One part of my mind marvels at capitalism's protean ability
to make money from any image, while another part is disgusted by
the lack of historical memory that makes that an apparently
palatable possibility.
Capitalism tends to be less retaliatory or revenge oriented and
more forgiving then other economic regimes......it is easier to get
up after going broke then it is to crawl out of an unmarked grave
of a Gulag camp or walk out of an execution cell in La Cabaña....my
mind is unmarveled.
Gen. Barackbar|9.9.09 @ 4:20PM|#
No pass for slaveholding, but war criminal, really? Or are you revising the definition to argue that anyone who engages in war is a criminal? This is one of the stupidest moral equivalence arguments I've seen in ages, yet I too am guilty of feeding the trolls.
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 4:27PM|#
To be even more accurate, I pointed out that nobody cries over Washington's crimes (leaving aside the war element, NOBODY bitches over the slavery; no free pass my ass).
|9.9.09 @ 4:31PM|#
Elemenope,
And every white male back then was a racist, a sexist, and didn't
bathe regularly. There's a list a mile long of things I don't
approve of that my forebears did. How that's relevant in comparison
to a modern murderer aiming for tyranny is beyond me. For his time,
Washington was very liberal and very noble. Can't say the same
about Che.
Frankly, this whole comparison is nuts.
|9.9.09 @ 4:34PM|#
To be more specific there are no real "crimes" specific to
capitalism...sure there are property crimes but are you going to
tell me vandalism is not illegal in Cuba? I wonder what they did to
you in the Soviet Union if you stole a car?
Socialism on the other hand has tons of crimes you can commit
against it....many of them have been proven to be punishable by
death.
|9.9.09 @ 4:37PM|#
Washington was very liberal and very noble. Can't say the
same about Che.
From my understanding Che's diaries of his time in Africa are
filled to the brim with racist screeds.
|9.9.09 @ 4:42PM|#
What Washington did eventually led to the demise of slavery in the U.S. What Che did eventually led to the enslavement of an entire nation.
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 4:53PM|#
What Washington did eventually led to the demise of slavery
in the U.S.
This is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've read today.
He gets *no credit* for ending slavery.
|9.9.09 @ 4:58PM|#
Well, you should be the resident expert at recognizing
ridiculous statements making the comparison you're insisting on
today. Without Washington and the rest of the Founders focusing so
much on individual rights, the path we took might've been very
different. They were creatures of their own time and maybe weren't
radical enough for our tastes, but they laid the foundation for the
freedoms we and many other countries have now. Might as well
criticize them for not being kind enough to the environment. That's
just as relevant.
It's really easy to stand on the shoulders of people like that and
mock them for not being as high up as we are.
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 5:24PM|#
Meow.
Without Washington and the rest of the Founders focusing so
much on individual rights, the path we took might've been very
different
If things were different, they would not be the same. This is true,
but barely applicable to what we are talking about. The best you
can do to draw a direct line between the founders and the
emancipation of the slaves was to say that in the Constitution they
cocked up the issue so much as to make a war over it
inevitable.
If things were different (i.e. not the same) and the Confederacy
had won the Civil War, (not, like, out of the realm of possibility)
the path taken would have led nowhere but to the continuation of
slavery. So, Washington gets no credit.
It's really easy to stand on the shoulders of people like that
and mock them for not being as high up as we are.
Yes, it is. You know what's stupider? Worshiping them. That is the
amount of deference necessary to ignore their many sins.
Now, normally, I am about taking a complex picture of an
individual, and summing up all the boons and banes, intentional or
otherwise, in figuring out some sort of historical judgment.
And then it comes to Che, and everyone starts foaming at the mouth.
I'm engaging on this not because I think they are particularly
comparable on many levels, but because on a more basic level, every
freedom fighter is a terrorist, and every revolutionary a
scoundrel. We love those that are ours, and hate the others as
"dangerous".
That hypocrisy annoys me. I decided to poke it with a stick
today.
|9.9.09 @ 5:34PM|#
I think Che is the wrong poster child for that, but okay. For that matter, Washington probably wasn't the best example on the other side, either. Jefferson is more rife with contradictions, in my opinion.
|9.9.09 @ 5:43PM|#
If things were different (i.e. not the same) and the
Confederacy had won the Civil War, (not, like, out of the realm of
possibility) the path taken would have led nowhere but to the
continuation of slavery. So, Washington gets no credit.
Very unlikely. Slavery is not sustainable....an independent
confederacy would have failed very quickly and would have been
swallowed up by the economic behemoths to in the north.
Washington is given credit for his classic liberalism which makes
institutions such as slavery less likely to persist. The simple
fact is that a nation of free people out compete nations of
subjects and slaves on every level.
Atlas Winked|9.9.09 @ 5:44PM|#
he gets a pass because...why?
He was a man of his times?
He was the only Founder who released his slaves?
He was a good dancer?
Take your pick, dick.
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 6:24PM|#
Washington is given credit for his classic liberalism which
makes institutions such as slavery less likely to
persist.
Washington had little impact on the formation of the Constitution
and can take little credit for the classical liberal ideas found
therein. If you wanted to credit a single individual for its
genius, Madison is your guy.
The simple fact is that a nation of free people out compete
nations of subjects and slaves on every level.
I'd love to believe that, I really would. So, how's our economy
doing? How's China's?
-----
He was a man of his times?
"His crimes against humanity are excusable because, well, that's
just what people did in those days."
That's...idiotic.
He was the only Founder who released his slaves?
Not true. Also Jefferson. And technically, Washington manumitted
his slaves in his will on the date of Martha's death. He
died first. Made for a tense couple of years for the wife.
|9.9.09 @ 6:26PM|#
I've always found the argument that the Civil War was the
inevitable result of the Revolutionary War to be pretty
compelling.
Mostly because, without the Revolutionary War, we would have been
ruled by England, which managed to outlaw slavery without having a
civil war over it.
|9.9.09 @ 6:28PM|#
The simple fact is that a nation of free people out compete
nations of subjects and slaves on every level.
I'd love to believe that, I really would. So, how's our economy
doing? How's China's?
Not a good comparison. The US is no longer a nation of free
people.
You doubt me? Go to a law library and ponder the sheer heft of the
US Code and the Code of Federal Regulations.
|9.9.09 @ 6:29PM|#
Washington had little impact on the formation of the
Constitution and can take little credit for the classical liberal
ideas found therein. If you wanted to credit a single individual
for its genius, Madison is your guy.
There was this guy who wrote down this great idea...then this other
asshole through his own sweat and blood and initiative actually
implemented that idea so he gets ZERO credit for it.
I call bullshit.
|9.9.09 @ 6:30PM|#
I'm not aware of Washington rounding up loyalists and executing
them in camps.
It's try that loyalists did suffer some harassment during and after
the revolutionary war, whereupon most of them promptly decamped to
Toronto, but this isn't on nearly the same scale that the
communists retaliated against the "bourgeois" after most Marxist
revolutions of the 20th century. The mass slaughters of
"counter-revolutionaries" under Communist government really don't
have any historical rival except the Holocaust.
Atlas Winked|9.9.09 @ 6:34PM|#
"His crimes against humanity are excusable because, well,
that's just what people did in those days."
That's...idiotic.
You said "crimes against humanity." I didn't.
Putting words in people's mouths? That's...dishonest.
|9.9.09 @ 6:35PM|#
I'd love to believe that, I really would. So, how's our
economy doing? How's China's?
Are you actually comparing the economy of the confederacy to the
economy of US's current recession?
Seriously?
Are you actually comparing China's current economy to the economy
of Mao's Great Leap Forward?
Seriously?
|9.9.09 @ 7:42PM|#
Jon Lee Anderson, author of the 800 + page 'Che Guevara: A
Revolutionary Life', who spent 5 years researching the man:
"I have yet to find a single credible source pointing to a case
where Che executed an innocent. Those persons executed by Guevara
or on his orders were condemned for the usual crimes punishable by
death at times of war or in its aftermath: desertion, treason or
crimes such as rape, torture or murder."
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 7:49PM|#
Putting words in people's mouths?
That's...dishonest.
Slavery: It's a crime against humanity.
(Says so right on the package. What, you disagree?)
Elemenope|9.9.09 @ 7:50PM|#
Not a good comparison. The US is no longer a nation of free
people.
You doubt me? Go to a law library and ponder the sheer heft of the
US Code and the Code of Federal Regulations.
That's an excellent point.
|9.9.09 @ 8:36PM|#
See this is where El Che messed up ...
He should have:
- Bought a peasant girl, made her his slave, then raped her and had
her give birth to his child (Jefferson)
- Next Che should have made all the rich oligarchs walk hundreds of
miles before leaving the country in a 'trail of tears'
(Jackson)
- Once his legend was solidified he could send one of his
commanders to do a 'march to the sea' where he burned out all the
govt homes and Batistaites who had been defeated
(Lincoln/Sherman).
It's a shame he didn't follow the great paths history already laid
out for him ... then instead of being on the worthless 3 Cuban peso
he could be on the U.$. dollar bill !
jtuf|9.9.09 @ 10:43PM|#
Nick asks, "We are rightly horrified by fascist murders. Why
aren't we also horrified by communist killers?"
Because the communists didn't loose WWII.
Greg|9.10.09 @ 12:06AM|#
Che Guevara was no angel, but his actions were a response to the
horrible atrocities carried out by the US & client states for
so many years. Anyone with the least familiarity with US
intervention in Latin America will understand the roots of Che's
actions, and why he is considered a hero throughout the third
world.
In addition, Che reviewed the guilty sentences of war criminals and
was in charge of pardoning them or not - the same as a U.S.
Governor. Does that make them "murderers" if they refuse to commute
the sentence? Hardly.
As for killing in war, we pin medals on killers all the time. It
just depends on which side of the killing you are on - so grow up
and join the real world.
Greg pt2 |9.10.09 @ 12:19AM|#
It's politically blasphemous to say anything positive or even
nuanced about Che Guevara around right-wing Americans. Worldwide,
however, the loathing of Che is an extreme minority view.
Che was more complex and contradictory a historical figure than
some people understand.
However simple minded Americans like their characters to be
unambiguous and simple: Good OR Bad; Black OR White; Saint OR
Sinner, etc. In reality, things are rarely so simple.
That's one of the reasons that Hitler or Nazis are so often pulled
out in an argument (see Reductio ad Hitlerum & Godwin's Law):
There are relatively few people who embody absolute evil so clearly
and readily.
The hysteria and the manic frustration expressed by right-wingers
regarding the continuing and growing popularity and iconic status
of Che is in itself very revealing. Complexity is not their strong
suit. Seeing more than the surface is a little hard for
right-wingers. Everyone must fit into the "Superman vs. Lex Luthor"
box. Reality is harder to pigeonhole.
Can most conservatives tell you anything at all about Fulgencio
Batista? Do they mention the 20,000 Cubans killed by Batista's
mafia based police state? Do they discuss the difference in how
Che's men released all captured enemy soldiers, while Batista's
goons gouged their eyes out and tortured them?
Nah ... to a right-winger (the kind that wanted to hand the nuke
codes to a half-literate ex beauty queen who believes in witchcraft
& a fatherless messianic carpenter zombie) there are only
heroes and villains. Just like in their biblical fables they cling
to so much.
|9.10.09 @ 3:15AM|#
Can most conservatives tell you anything at all about
Fulgencio Batista? Do they mention the 20,000 Cubans killed by
Batista's mafia based police state? Do they discuss the difference
in how Che's men released all captured enemy soldiers, while
Batista's goons gouged their eyes out and tortured them?
The correct answer to a brutal dictator is not a new brutal
dictator.
Washington 1, Che 0
|9.10.09 @ 5:09AM|#
Of course, both men have killed and both, Washington and Che Guevara are probably guilty of one or two war crimes (you cant actually control every single soldier all the time), but Che did it in a situation, that was not war at all. Also, if we compare the outcome than we can really judge the character and there Washington beats Che Guevara hands down...
|9.10.09 @ 7:01AM|#
Elmenope: "And technically, Washington manumitted his slaves
in his will on the date of Martha's death. He died first. Made for
a tense couple of years for the wife."
That's because the slaves belonged to her relatives before
he married "up" into her wealthy family. In other words, Washington
did not believe they were his to give away. For what it's worth
(which is probably little), he also never "worked" his
slaves.
Obviously, to treat people as chattel is a grave wrong, but like
others said, he was a person of his time. It isn't an excusal, but
it is an explanation. It was wrong, and he probably knew it was
wrong, which is why he freed them. No human being is a plaster
saint, and as such, no one is worthy of idol worship, but that
doesn't mean they should be unjustly mischaracterized either.
R C Dean: "Mostly because, without the Revolutionary War, we
would have been ruled by England, which managed to outlaw slavery
without having a civil war over it."
That's because an enormous geographical part of England did not
have an economy that was intimately intertwined with the
institution of slavery. If the U.S. hadn't already revolted, I find
it highly likely they would have in 1840 when England outlawed
slavery.
Walter: "Jon Lee Anderson, author of the 800 + page 'Che
Guevara: A Revolutionary Life', who spent 5 years researching the
man: 'I have yet to find a single credible source pointing to a
case where Che executed an innocent. Those persons executed by
Guevara or on his orders were condemned for the usual crimes
punishable by death at times of war or in its aftermath: desertion,
treason or crimes such as rape, torture or murder.'"
Bullshit. They may have been found "guilty" in one of Che's
notorious kangaroo courts, but most were executed summarily without
any due process whatsoever. I would also take the words of a man
who writes a (by all accounts) fawning biography of Che with a very
large grain of salt.
Skeptic: "Of course, both men have killed and both, Washington
and Che Guevara are probably guilty of one or two war crimes (you
cant actually control every single soldier all the
time)..."
Just because a soldier commits a war crime does not automatically
make every commander in his chain of command guilty. They may or
may not be negligent, but are not necessarily complicit if they
didn't give the order or know it occurred. I am not saying it is
inconceivable, but I have yet to see anything reliable show that
Washington ever acted in contravention of the laws of war. The fact
is, Che's actions--about 300 executions of soldiers and civilians
without due process, which were war crimes by any definition--are
well documented.
Pedro|9.11.09 @ 9:49AM|#
Che Guevara is a worldwide hero ...
this site on the other hand is flush with douchebags who were born
on 3rd base, and think they hit a triple.
Q: Who is John Galt?
A: A Giant A$$hole
Larry the Leftie|9.12.09 @ 12:47PM|#
I wish America had a Che Guevara that would put Glenn Beck, Sean
Hannity and the other Nazi's against the execution wall.
"Fuego!"
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