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Whole Foods Customers Express Tolerance By Boycotting Over CEO's Alternative Health Care Ideas
Commenter JB flags this amusing ABC News story, with the great headline/subhed combo: "Health Care Stirs Up Whole Foods CEO John Mackey, Customers Boycott Organic Grocery Store: Branding Experts Say CEOs Should Stay Quiet When It Comes to Politics."
The lead of the story, which is about fallout from Mackey daring to utter a different prescription for health care reform than one favored by liberal Democrats, is even funnier:
Joshua has been taking the bus to his local Whole Foods in New York City every five days for the past two years. This week, he said he'll go elsewhere to fulfill his fresh vegetable and organic produce needs.
"I will never shop there again," vowed Joshua, a 45-year-old blogger, who asked that his last name not be published.
Fight on, brave Joshua!
This reminds me of a panel I was on with Mackey one month ago, about the legalization of marijuana, of which he is an equally outspoken proponent (much more so than President Barack Obama or the vast majority of elected Democratic politicians, for example). Should he stay quiet when it comes to those politics, too? And does Mackey's legalization position, which I'm guessing is closer to the position of Planet Joshua than Planet Obama, cancel out the CEO's unconscionable support for a different kind of health care reform? Or is it more that you're not supposed to oppose the president?
|8.14.09 @ 1:28PM|#
Somehow I think Whole Foods will do just fine even without "Joshua" and a few others. The store isn't just for organic-philes; it's also for people looking for really hard to get gourmet shit. They have white anchovies in olive oil there!
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 1:28PM|#
Whole Foods has excellent sausages and soups. Their roast chicken is pretty damn good too although I prefer Wal-Mart's version. Me thinks I'm gonna go see what all they have on sale when I go out tomorrow for groceries.
|8.14.09 @ 1:29PM|#
It gets better:
"While Mackey is worried about health care and stimulus
spending, he doesn't seem too worried about expensive wars and tax
breaks for the wealthy and big businesses such as his own that
contribute to the deficit," said Lent.
You hear that, you capitalist swines? Businesses CONTRIBUTE to the
defecit!
|8.14.09 @ 1:34PM|#
After the dust settles, will Mackey's position on health care reform do more damage to Whole Foods's reputation or Obamacare's chances of passing?
|8.14.09 @ 1:35PM|#
While Mackey is worried about health care and stimulus
spending, he doesn't seem too worried about expensive wars and tax
breaks for the wealthy and big businesses
The relevance of this to his prescription for health care reform
escapes me.
Am I right in thinking that Lent is criticizing Mackey for not
opposing Obama on tax breaks and the war, while opposing him on
health care?
You can't disagree with the Big O on anything unless you disagree
with him on everything? In that case, I'm in the clear.
hmm|8.14.09 @ 1:38PM|#
That's it. I'm going to take a Sudafed, that put me on a meth
list, go by Bill's house and get a contact buzz, then go satisfy my
munchies with a $100 Whole Foods binge. That gets me what? Two
slices of pizza and some fruity organic drink right?
FUCK YOU JOSHUA!
*the sudafed is because I am somehow mildly allergic to pot
smoke.
Euler|8.14.09 @ 1:39PM|#
This article makes me want to shop at Whole Foods. Too bad there isn't one anywhere near me.
Vehical Driver|8.14.09 @ 1:40PM|#
Obamacare will not pass. The Democrats are scared shitless of Obamacare. Right now they are in damage control mode trying to figure out how to blame the Republicans when their un-defeatable and un-veto-able majority scuttle health care reform.
|8.14.09 @ 1:40PM|#
Notice he takes the bus to whole foods every five days to get
fresh vegitables and organic produce. He is not going there for the
kick ass wine selection or for their desserts or breaks. Just
organic vegitables and produce. And he doesn't drive either. He
takes the bus.
Apparently, Joshua is very concerned that he might you know enjoy
himself once in a while. Does it ever dawn on these people that
they are walking talking cliches?
Geoff|8.14.09 @ 1:41PM|#
I personally love this gem:
"I think a CEO should take care that if he speaks about
politics, that his beliefs reflect at least the majority of his
clients."
That corporate monster! He definitely should lie about his views
and pay lip service to his liberal customers, padding his fat
greedy pockets.
Wait..what...he didn't do that?
roystgnr|8.14.09 @ 1:42PM|#
Gee, it's a good thing that the liberals have a wide variety of
grocery options available from many independent private suppliers,
allowing them to conveniently get service elsewhere when one
provider does something they don't like.
I wonder if any of them are self-aware enough to appreciate the
irony.
|8.14.09 @ 1:43PM|#
Suger Free was on here yesterday talking about how one of his student volunteers wouldn't let him talk some emo kid into killing himself. If you are out there, Sugerfree, could you use your powers on Joshua? I am tired of him breathing my air.
hmm|8.14.09 @ 1:45PM|#
Good point John. I'm going to drive my truck to Bill's and Whole Foods since it gets 17 mpg and buy the most decadent thing I can find in Whole foods.
Naga Sadow|8.14.09 @ 1:45PM|#
Save your dignity, Euler. Only anarcho-capitalist snobs like Epi shop at Whole Foods.
|8.14.09 @ 1:47PM|#
HMM,
Go take your big ass truck and buy yourself a good bottle of wine
and some big assed chocolate dessert. I am sure the Joshuas of the
world are laying in bed right fretting that someone might be
enjoying themselves.
|8.14.09 @ 1:48PM|#
Naga, where else am I going to get Spanish extra virgin olive oil, raw milk Gorgonzola, and frozen mahi mahi burgers?
|8.14.09 @ 1:51PM|#
He is not going there for the kick ass wine selection or for
their desserts
Good cheese selection too. Too bad our man Josh is probably a
vegan. I note that he is not ideologically pure enough to be a
freegan, however.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 1:52PM|#
"Naga, where else am I going to get Spanish extra virgin olive
oil, raw milk Gorgonzola, and frozen mahi mahi burgers?"
You are dead to me...
Naga Sadow|8.14.09 @ 1:54PM|#
All right Epi! You forced me to link to this clip! Spanish extra virgin olive oil, raw milk Gorgonzola, and frozen mahi mahi burgers?
hotsauce|8.14.09 @ 1:55PM|#
I don't shop at Whole Foods regularly because it's more
expensive than my local megamart, which also has above-average
meat, produce, and booze selections. But I like this Mackey fellow,
so maybe -- maybe -- I'll give his overpriced store another
looksee.
If anecdontal evidence is worth much, I don't think these boycotts
will affect WF's bottom line. 99% of the people I know who shop
there are fad liberals, i.e., those who call themselves Democrats
because they think they should but who really know dick about
politics and current events. They didn't read the WSJ column, they
don't know who Mackey is, and the most they'll hear about this
boycott is a two minute story on NPR.
|8.14.09 @ 1:55PM|#
I forgot the cheese selection Dagney. It is good. And I wouldn't bet against Josh being a Vegan.
spambot|8.14.09 @ 1:57PM|#
Hmmmmm being boycotted because of something he said against the President's ideas. See this reminds me of those Dixie Chic gals. Does this mean his free speach is being squelched?
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 2:00PM|#
"Hmmmmm being boycotted because of something he said against the
President's ideas. See this reminds me of those Dixie Chic gals.
Does this mean his free speach is being squelched?"
No. It just means idiots are being idiots. Just the opposite group
of idiots this time.
|8.14.09 @ 2:00PM|#
"Dagny,
Freegan?"
Naga,
You are just not up on the hip and cool ways to live. This is how
wiki describes a Freegan
Freeganism is an anti-consumerist lifestyle whereby people employ
alternative living strategies based on "limited participation in
the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources".
Freegans "embrace community, generosity, social concern, freedom,
cooperation, and sharing in opposition to a society based on
materialism, moral apathy, competition, conformity, and greed."[1]
The lifestyle involves salvaging discarded, unspoiled food from
supermarket dumpsters, known as dumpster diving. Freegans salvage
the food for political reasons, rather than out of need."
Yes, dirty hippies stealing your trash and of course feeling smug
about it.
eutocius|8.14.09 @ 2:00PM|#
"Notice he takes the bus to whole foods every five days to get
fresh vegitables and organic produce. He is not going there for the
kick ass wine selection or for their desserts or breaks. Just
organic vegitables and produce. And he doesn't drive either. He
takes the bus.
Apparently, Joshua is very concerned that he might you know enjoy
himself once in a while. Does it ever dawn on these people that
they are walking talking cliches?"
I get organic vegetables and produce, but get cheaper, non-organic
versions of most other things at safeway. Also, there are liquor
stores with fine wine selections, better beer prices, and hard
alcohol (which I prefer). And yeah, I ride the bus, which means I
can read instead of staring at traffic lights. Didn't realize I was
a cliche.
|8.14.09 @ 2:01PM|#
Naga, I remember that episode. Classic.
Whole Foods has certain things which are outrageously priced, but
they also have certain stuff that is amazingly priced. Their
produce is usually outrageous, but certain stuff in their 365 house
brand can often beat other grocery stores, and is better
quality.
Plus they have their excellent selection of wine, beer, and sake,
often at very good prices. They have disappointed me, though, by
not having fresh rabbit or duck.
|8.14.09 @ 2:01PM|#
Food sure is cheap and abundant. Must be thanks to all of those government subsidies. God bless the government!
The Angry Optimist|8.14.09 @ 2:02PM|#
Hey y'all, in case you were curious,
here's blogger "Joshua" and the post slamming Whole
Foods.
I wouldn't want you guys to go over there and say anything to him
though. And no briar patches, either.
I am throwing a party tonight, and I think I might hike up to Whole
Foods and get some of their wine. I admit that the store has
awesome selection in that department.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 2:04PM|#
That Absolutely Fabulous clip was great! Never watched it when
it was on CC. I think I have to give this show a chance now.
Thanks Naga.
Naga Sadow|8.14.09 @ 2:05PM|#
Pro Lib,
What is this . . . Trader Joe's? I saw a few in LA last year but
never entered for fear I would be dispatched by a bunch of toga
sporting, flip flop wearing, fiends. ;)
nicole|8.14.09 @ 2:05PM|#
Notice he takes the bus to whole foods every five days to
get fresh vegitables and organic produce. He is not going there for
the kick ass wine selection or for their desserts or breaks. Just
organic vegitables and produce. And he doesn't drive either. He
takes the bus.
While I have no love for Joshua, I do have to say two things in his
favor. Whole Foods doesn't have a kick-ass wine selection in New
York, because that would be illegal, and I probably wouldn't be
driving to the supermarket if I lived in NYC either.
hmm|8.14.09 @ 2:06PM|#
Trader Joe's. We don't have that down here. I demand
government intervention!
I like TJs more than whole foods.
Fist of Etiquette|8.14.09 @ 2:06PM|#
Businessmen who rely on retail sales shouldn't talk politics. However, if you are going to alienate a block of your customers, it might as well be the hippies buying overpriced fad items.
Fluffy|8.14.09 @ 2:08PM|#
Joshua doesn't want his last name used because if he used it,
someone who doesn't like his boycott might boycott
him.
Because always remember, when progressives do it, it's a "boycott".
If libertarians were to do it, it would be a "blacklist".
Just like public protest of government figures is "a demonstration"
when progressives do it, but "thuggish intimidation" when
right-wingers do it.
And just like walking a picket line is "bargaining" when union
members do it, and "harassment" and "hate speech" when abortion
opponents do it.
hmm|8.14.09 @ 2:08PM|#
Stupid personal insight:
I just showed this to my wife, who is decidedly apolitical most of
the time. (probably due to my brother and I)
Her response was exactly the same as mine. "So, what do you want
for dinner from Whole Foods tonight? I'll swing by OTW home from
work."
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 2:08PM|#
Naga, where else am I going to get Spanish extra virgin
olive oil, raw milk Gorgonzola, and frozen mahi mahi
burgers?
Trader Joe's, dude. It is hella cheap, too. I got a big ol' bottle
of Spanish evoo a couple weeks ago for like $6.
|8.14.09 @ 2:09PM|#
"While I have no love for Joshua, I do have to say two things in
his favor. Whole Foods doesn't have a kick-ass wine selection in
New York, because that would be illegal, and I probably wouldn't be
driving to the supermarket if I lived in NYC either."
All true. But that sentence still made him sound like such a
douschebag.
|8.14.09 @ 2:09PM|#
Trader Joe's has some great stuff at great prices, but it just does not have the overall selection that Whole Foods has. And both god-damned times I bought fresh buffalo mozzarella from them it had gone sour already, the fuckers. Well, I learned my lesson.
|8.14.09 @ 2:09PM|#
Yes, dirty hippies stealing your trash and of course feeling
smug about it.
That might be the funniest thing I've read all day.
|8.14.09 @ 2:09PM|#
TJs is really kick ass. But I never found it to be "organic". It just seems like a funky grocery store.
Fluffy|8.14.09 @ 2:10PM|#
Trader Joe's sucks.
It occupies less the "gourmet foodie stuff" niche and more the "Ad
Aware I don't want to buy anything with a brand name" niche. But
now it has become so large that Trader Joe's has itself become a
brand name, so the customers trying to step outside the corporate
branding system by shopping there are pushing around tiny little
half-size shopping carts of FAIL.
|8.14.09 @ 2:11PM|#
I got a big ol' bottle of Spanish evoo a couple weeks ago
for like $6.
Whole Foods is 33.8 oz for $10 (sometimes on sale for $8). What
size is the TJs one? I may have to make a Trader Joes visit.
JB|8.14.09 @ 2:11PM|#
Fluffy, that was a great post:
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/135439.html#1357729
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 2:11PM|#
But I never found it to be "organic".
I don't give a fuck about organic. It's funky and, this is crucial,
cheap, and that's enough for me. The nearest Trader Joe's locations
are both a half-hour drive from my house, so i get to kill the
planet, too.
WWJGD|8.14.09 @ 2:12PM|#
"Conservatives have had 3 decades to show the country how &
why their unbridled economic religion - The Church of
Deregulation & Tax cuts, Tax cuts & Deregulation -
was a dogma that in the end would be beneficial to a majority of
Americans."
There seems to be a rip in space and time and somehow this guy's
blog on his world and our world are crossing paths.
|8.14.09 @ 2:13PM|#
Trader Joe's is, among other things, a place where you can get
cheaper gourmet or alternative foods. It has the green thing going,
too, but it does a lot of stuff via private label to cut down on
the cost. This angers fluffy ☻
Ain't in Tampa. We've got Whole Foods and Fresh Market, along with
the more traditional chains.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 2:14PM|#
Epi,
I know I said you were dead to me and all but have you ever ordered
online from the Mozzarella Company?
There cheese is fantastic. My mom ordered some a while back and
gave me some of the little mozzarella balls and I loved them.
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 2:14PM|#
TAO, if you don't mind, i'm just gonna boycott Joshua by not clicking on your link.
|8.14.09 @ 2:15PM|#
As people hear that "I (heart) organic" does not equal "I
(heart) socialized medicine", there ought to be heads exploding all
along the coasts. Macky's lucky he hasn't killed anyone yet.
"Joshua" could always get his produce from Wal-Mart's new organic
and local offerings... (BAMM!) oh, there goes another one.
|8.14.09 @ 2:15PM|#
Why do smelly granola munchers think they drive Whole Foods's profits? Go ahead, boycott whatever you want. You'll soon realize that people rich enough to shop at Whole Foods have health insurance.
|8.14.09 @ 2:16PM|#
Joshua has been taking the bus to his local Whole Foods in New
York City every five days for the past two years. This week, he
said he'll go elsewhere to fulfill his fresh vegetable and organic
produce needs.
"I will never shop there again," vowed Joshua, a 45-year-old
blogger, who asked that his last name not be published.
Joshua rides a bus and, it appears, is fond of government handouts.
I suspect he is on welfare enjoying the rewards others earned
through their labors. Josh, next time your in the grocery store
buying your organic apples take a moment to shake hands and thank
one of the employees there who paid for it.
The Angry Optimist|8.14.09 @ 2:17PM|#
X - that's cool, man. I put a comment up, but the comments are
moderated, so I expect to be deposited in the man's
cognitive-dissonance category of "Conservatives are People who Do
not Agree with Joshua".
I was kinda hoping I could find his last name. Serve the little guy
right.
|8.14.09 @ 2:21PM|#
I know I said you were dead to me and all but have you ever
ordered online from the Mozzarella Company?
I am fanatical about my fresh mozzarella having grown up on the
stuff made daily by hand from the Italian Pork Store (Italian
deli). If it's more than a day old, it starts to suck, so anything
through mail will blow just because it will be a few days
old.
DeLaurenti here
in Seattle at Pike Place Market is only a few blocks from me and
they make it fresh every weekend. Sometimes it's too tough, but
sometimes it's pretty damn tender and good.
The Angry Optimist|8.14.09 @ 2:22PM|#
Epi - gimme your address. I'm gonna send you a whole case of
"mozzarella" string cheese from Sam's Club.
And a case of Bud Light.
|8.14.09 @ 2:25PM|#
Fluffy, that was a great post:
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/135439.html#1357729
The fluffster is on a roll today. Well played sah!
I treat TJ's as an upscale convenience store, which is essentially
what it is. There's a WF near me, but parking is a bitch and the
prices have kept me away. I may now have to brave these conditions,
just to give Joshua and his fellow travelers the big, fat mofo'in
finger. That and to give props to Mackey for putting his money and
mouth together.
And you can't get beer or wine at grocery stores in MD nor DC. You
can in VA, which is only one more reason why MD and DC suck so
much.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 2:26PM|#
"I am fanatical about my fresh mozzarella having grown up on the
stuff made daily by hand from the Italian Pork Store (Italian
deli)."
If we could all be so lucky. That sounds damn good.
And this thread's making me hungry.
Geoff|8.14.09 @ 2:26PM|#
What is this "slacking" in which all of the cool progressives
partake? How and where can I learn more about it?
Unforunately, Josh hasn't responded to my email yet :(
WWJGD|8.14.09 @ 2:27PM|#
Will the Whole Foods boycotters now go to a store that falls
more in line with their view on health care reform, ie a
progressive company that supports health care for all like
Wal-Mart?
The irony, it is delicious.
Michael|8.14.09 @ 2:27PM|#
I just Google mapped it and have to ask. Joshua, are your legs broken? That's like five blocks.
The Angry Optimist|8.14.09 @ 2:27PM|#
Surely you're a snob about something.
I'm snobby about my anti-snobbery.
hotsauce|8.14.09 @ 2:29PM|#
All this talk is making me hungry too. On my way home tonight, I'm going to stop at WF to pick up a bottle of vino, fresh mozzarella, tomatos, and basil. I already have OO and BV from my last Italian vaca.
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 2:30PM|#
Joshua rides a bus and, it appears, is fond of government
handouts. I suspect he is on welfare enjoying the rewards others
earned through their labors.
RACIST!
|8.14.09 @ 2:31PM|#
By the way, the "Joe" of "Trader Joe's" is also a Friend of
Reason(tm).
Don't know the specifics of his health care plan...
(To be consistent, he'd have to make a deal on some obscure
Canadian and Costa Rican health care, and rebrand it with a funny
name and a humorous woodcut on the label.)
|8.14.09 @ 2:31PM|#
"And you can't get beer or wine at grocery stores in MD nor DC.
You can in VA, which is only one more reason why MD and DC suck so
much."
You can in Maryland, at exactly one grocery store per county. How
much money do think that little privelege goes for? In Maryland
government it is always first and foremost about stealing.
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 2:32PM|#
That's like five blocks.
When i read the bit Welch excerpted, i immediately pictured Joshua
as being decidedly egg-shaped. No lie.
|8.14.09 @ 2:32PM|#
Epi - gimme your address. I'm gonna send you a whole case of
"mozzarella" string cheese from Sam's Club.
[insert's Joshua's address here]
If we could all be so lucky. That sounds damn good.
You have no idea, dude. BelGioioso makes a
surprisingly tender mozzarella that can be found in most grocery
stores, and it's passable, especially for something that has a
sell-by date. But if you get the chance, get hand-made (that day)
fresh mozzarella from someone who knows what they're doing. You
will be blown away by the difference.
|8.14.09 @ 2:34PM|#
That was directed at TAO.
By the way, I'm willing to injure people who use terms like OO or
EVOO in reference to olive oil. The one place I thought was safe
from the non-cook was here.
Episiarch,
Can't you make your own?
The Angry Optimist|8.14.09 @ 2:34PM|#
Funny story: in Indiana, you can get all the booze you want, at
the front of the grocery store.
The condoms, on the other hand, are under lock-and-key.
|8.14.09 @ 2:34PM|#
"*the sudafed is because I am somehow mildly allergic to pot
smoke."
Condolences.
The Angry Optimist|8.14.09 @ 2:36PM|#
no, ProL, I take that back: I am snobby about people who are poorly dressed. I don't mean you have to get anything expensive, mind, but a XXXXL Tweety-bird T-Shirt is appropriate as a truck rag and nothing else.
Fluffy|8.14.09 @ 2:38PM|#
Mmmmmmmm fresh mozzarella...
I think I'll go get some fresh mozzarella from the Italian store,
and slice it up with one of the Black from Tula tomatoes in my
garden, drizzle some Spanish olive oil on, and maybe add a little
garlic salt.
Mmmmmmmmm I like August.
|8.14.09 @ 2:38PM|#
Epi,
Trader Joe's carries Spanish EVOO. And it's damn good, too. Not to
mention (probably) a few bucks less than Whole Foods.
hotsauce|8.14.09 @ 2:38PM|#
ProL, is S&P an injury-worthy abbreviation? Does it make a difference if the S is kosher and the P is freshly ground?
|8.14.09 @ 2:40PM|#
Abbreviations are lovely. Just not ones inspired by
She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.
Say, that makes me a television chef snob, doesn't it?
|8.14.09 @ 2:40PM|#
Whenever someone says EVOO, all I can think about is Rachel Ray and her mildly perky tits, thick waste, cute ass and annoying accent.
WWJGD|8.14.09 @ 2:41PM|#
"Funny story: in Indiana, you can get all the booze you want, at
the front of the grocery store."
Yeah, but you can't get any cold alcohol in grocery stores.
Ironically, the stores that are fighting for alcohol sales on
Sunday are fighting to prevent grocery stores from selling cold
beer. It's sad to watch.
Fluffy|8.14.09 @ 2:42PM|#
Wait a second...the "EVOO" abbreviation comes to us courtesy of
"It"?
OK, then put me down on the list of people who endorse violence
against those who use it.
|8.14.09 @ 2:43PM|#
By the way, I'm willing to injure people who use terms like
OO or EVOO in reference to olive oil. The one place I thought was
safe from the non-cook was here.
EVOO EVOO
EVOO EVOO
EVOO EVOO
EVOO EVOO
EVOO EVOO
EVOO EVOO
EVOO EVOO
EVOO EVOO
Sorry, it had to be done.
|8.14.09 @ 2:43PM|#
Because always remember, when progressives do it, it's a
"boycott". If libertarians were to do it, it would be a
"blacklist".
Somebody help me out here.
Is it the libertarians who are racist for "blacklisting" somebody,
or the progressives for calling it a "blacklist"?
I'm so confused. But I know somebody has to be racist,
dammit.
|8.14.09 @ 2:43PM|#
Ironic that someone who is such a vocal advocate of personal liberty would suggest that it's inappropriate for consumers to vote with their pocketbooks.
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 2:44PM|#
OK, then put me down on the list of people who endorse
violence against those who use it.
Cripes! I was unaware of the origins. Sorry about the name-calling,
Pro L. I promise i'll type the whole thing out from now on.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 2:44PM|#
"Whenever someone says EVOO, all I can think about is Rachel Ray
and her mildly perky tits, thick waste, cute ass and annoying
accent."
Word yo.
RR circa '06 and Giada are one of my top fantasy threeways.
Though these days, I'm really preferring Giada over Rachel.
|8.14.09 @ 2:44PM|#
So if my use of the abbreviation has everything to do with laziness and nothing to do w/ Rachel Ray, do I still warrant injury done to me?
|8.14.09 @ 2:44PM|#
all I can think about is Rachel Ray and her mildly perky
tits, thick waste, cute ass and annoying
accent.
Ewww.
[Sorry, John. I had to do it. Its the Law.]
|8.14.09 @ 2:44PM|#
"Ironic that someone who is such a vocal advocate of personal
liberty would suggest that it's inappropriate for consumers to vote
with their pocketbooks."
No one objects to Joshua's right to boycott. It is a free country.
And we are free to make fun of him.
Geoff|8.14.09 @ 2:45PM|#
That is why I personally cringe when I hear EVOO in that upstate NY pseudo-canadian accent. I swear she must have a closet full of unflattering skin-tight sleeveless turtlenecks.
|8.14.09 @ 2:46PM|#
That is ok RC. For some perverts out there, that wouldn't be a misspelling. But fortunately my reputation precedes me. So there is little doubt it was.
Alice Bowie|8.14.09 @ 2:46PM|#
I think if I boycotted every CEO who I didn't agree with, I'd have nothing to buy.
|8.14.09 @ 2:46PM|#
Can't you make your own?
It's too much work. You could do it, but it's just not worth the
equipment, time, and effort if you can get it from someone
else.
DO NOT MENTION RACHAEL R... R...
I can't say it.
|8.14.09 @ 2:46PM|#
Yes.
Giada, okay. I don't get attraction to RR. Not that I have an
opinion, because I'm married to my own chef/babe.
|8.14.09 @ 2:47PM|#
You know what I'd respect? Someone who could make their own extra virgin olive oil in their own home.
|8.14.09 @ 2:48PM|#
Giada is pretty hot, I guess. Am I the only person in the world that thinks her head is three sizes too big for her body? I'd still pipe her, though. Let's be honest.
Mike Laursen|8.14.09 @ 2:49PM|#
Joshua will come crawling back. After all, Whole Foods is a monopoly, right?
Geoff|8.14.09 @ 2:49PM|#
Giada puts me in cleavage-hypnosis when she uses a wire whisk! It is also distracts me from here massive head, which I personally shouldn't be mocking.
|8.14.09 @ 2:49PM|#
I hope she doesn't read H&R. She'll prolly cry herself to sleep tonight on her 'uge pillah.
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 2:50PM|#
I never found she-who-shall-not-be-named attractive in any way. Giada... ok, but she has way too many teeth for a human mouth. Like Pro L, i married a skilled cook, though i myself am no slouch in the kitchen.
|8.14.09 @ 2:51PM|#
"That is why I personally cringe when I hear EVOO in that
upstate NY pseudo-canadian accent. I swear she must have a closet
full of unflattering skin-tight sleeveless turtlenecks."
And don't forget very unflattering bras. She doesn't have a bad
body. Not a great one, but not a bad one. But wears totally
unflattering clothes.
I don't mind Rachel. Her recipies are pretty good some of them.
Also, she causes the foodies heads to explode. So she can't be all
bad.
Really though, if you have to watch a cooking show, you should at
least get a little eye candy to go with it. Rachel doesn't really
fit the bill. Sandra Lee and Devin Alexander at least give you
something to look at, even though Sandy can't cook her way out of a
paper bag and has to be someone's girlfriend.
|8.14.09 @ 2:51PM|#
Xenoes You like that word Racist...It so worn out, so Johnnie Cochran. Try something that's more "in" like Reverse Discrimination...much more hip and relevant.
|8.14.09 @ 2:53PM|#
"Giada is pretty hot, I guess. Am I the only person in the world
that thinks her head is three sizes too big for her body? I'd still
pipe her, though. Let's be honest."
No, everyone notices that. But when a woman has that tight of a
body and tits that are that nice, she can get away with having a
big head.
PantsFan|8.14.09 @ 2:53PM|#
Giada has a huge head. She is like a walking bobble-head
doll.
That is all.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 2:53PM|#
"I don't mind Rachel. Her recipies are pretty good some of them.
Also, she causes the foodies heads to explode. So she can't be all
bad."
Once again, I'm with you here John.
hmm|8.14.09 @ 2:53PM|#
God I'm a loser unsophisticated redneck. I see EVOO and the default is EVO, as in Mitsubishi.
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 2:53PM|#
Xenoes You like that word Racist...It so worn out, so
Johnnie Cochran. Try something that's more "in" like Reverse
Discrimination...much more hip and relevant.
RACIST!
Also, Johnnie Cochran is dead. LIFEIST!
Geoff|8.14.09 @ 2:55PM|#
Spot on John. My mom has convinced me over the years that Ina Gartner is probably the best cook. Consistently cranking out some good recipes.
|8.14.09 @ 2:55PM|#
John,
She causes foodies' heads to explode because she doesn't know jack
about cooking. And she's part of the Oprah stable, which is prima
facie evidence of your unsuitability in life.
Giada is attractive. She's just short.
|8.14.09 @ 2:55PM|#
No, everyone notices that. But when a woman has that tight
of a body and tits that are that nice, she can get away with having
a big head.
...or speeding, or raping 6th graders, or having a stillborn fetal
conjoined twin stuck to the side of her head. I think we are in
agreement here.
|8.14.09 @ 2:56PM|#
Actually, the woman who can cook on TV is the fat one from the Hamptons, the barefoot contessa. That woman didn't get to be a size 18 by not knowing how put together a meal. She is always making stuff for her husband, who ends every episode with the same "yeah so what she is fat, she is loaded and cooks like this" look on his face.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 2:56PM|#
"God I'm a loser unsophisticated redneck. I see EVOO and the
default is EVO, as in Mitsubishi."
NO! EVO is one thing and one thing ONLY...
Steve Vai's main guitar.
Period.
|8.14.09 @ 2:57PM|#
You know what I'd respect? Someone who could make their own
extra virgin olive oil in their own home.
I had a friend who had relatives in Italy who owned an olive farm.
They came to visit him in the US and brought him, as a gift,
several bottles of their first press--true,
we-take-the-best-for-ourselves first press--and he cracked one for
a dinner one time.
Holy shit. I've never had olive oil, even the super-gourmet stuff
here, that tasted like that. The aroma and flavor were unreal. The
bread we had it with wasn't even very good but it didn't
matter.
Are we not men? We are EVOO...
Monkey men all!
Urkoboldâ„¢|8.14.09 @ 2:57PM|#
NIGELLA LAWSON MAKES THE URKOBOLD WANT TO HAVE CARNAL RELATIONS WITH FOOD.
|8.14.09 @ 2:57PM|#
Look, hands down the hottest tv cook is Nigella Lawson. Can I get a witness? Use bing.com to google her. Solid.
Old Italian Guy|8.14.09 @ 2:57PM|#
"Giada has a huge head. She is like a walking bobble-head
doll."
Big head, big mouth.
|8.14.09 @ 2:59PM|#
Dude, I love the olive. My wife and I consume quarts of olive oil a week, easily. She just did a thing with some slow-roasted tomatoes, a million cloves of garlic, some fresh herbs, and, yes, olive oil that was de-licious.
|8.14.09 @ 2:59PM|#
"John..thats exactly who I was talking about."
She is awsome. And she never makes a low fat anything. But she
really knows how to cook.
And I forgot about Nigella. If you look up force of nature in the
dictionary, you will find a picture of her rack. OMG that woman is
built.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 2:59PM|#
Ina rocks. She's the first person I ever saw make an "Arnold Palmer". I drink them all the time now.
|8.14.09 @ 3:00PM|#
"joshua" sounds like a tremendous douche and I know little about
him besides, but I picture him as having a plump, tender,
incredibly punchable face.
And I'm snobbish about punchable faces.
Michael|8.14.09 @ 3:01PM|#
Skimming over some of Joshua's other posts left me wondering what it would take to get people like him to ever question Dear Leader. My guess is that Kerlikowske would have to suddenly initiate a nationwide crackdown on people that get high on the smell of their own farts.
Fluffy|8.14.09 @ 3:02PM|#
Giada = short, no waist, gigantic tits that cleave to one
another like Katrina refugees on a roof. What's not to love? You
could hose all that makeup off her and make her hold her nails in
turpentine for half an hour and she'd be fine.
I like Ina too. Her house is the star of her show, though, as far
as I am concerned, just like Giada's tits are the star of her
show.
|8.14.09 @ 3:02PM|#
When you type the name Nigella lawson into google one of the autofill option is Nigella Lawson's Breasts. That is funny. She is hot but I think like 50. Devin Alexander is a nice younger alternative.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 3:03PM|#
Now y'all done it. Bringing Nigella into it.
First of all, she's just fucking gorgeous. It's that accent though.
Dear lord, that somewhat haughty and slightly superior tone with
the racey words and knowing looks.....
Great, now I'm hungry AND horny. Thanks a lot.
|8.14.09 @ 3:06PM|#
Speaking of accents Kyle,
Have you ever seen the British dog dominatrix they have on the
Animal planet? She is this 5'10 thin brit chick who is always
wearing high heeled knee high boots. She shows up to help people
train their dogs. Inevitably she keeps saying things like "naughty"
in this high end British Accent. There is something really wrong
but compelling about that show.
hmm|8.14.09 @ 3:06PM|#
Well, at least he posted my dissenting statement. Kudos to him
for that.
"looks like it's whole foods for dinner tonight." @2:12
kinnath|8.14.09 @ 3:07PM|#
The real irony of this thread, of course, is that Joshua is "a gay New Yorker".
|8.14.09 @ 3:08PM|#
After eight years of McChimpy and a conservative movement that
can't find a clue with both hands and a mirror, you would think the
liberals would be riding high. Yet they're in a spiral of
destruction of their own making. Pathetic.
It's like winning the lottery but defaulting on your mortgage
because you never paid it.
The Angry Optimist|8.14.09 @ 3:08PM|#
FLFW - it had Giada looking like a howler monkey on an
"inspirational poster"
Caption: ENTHUSIASM: You're at a 10. We need you at about a 7.
alan|8.14.09 @ 3:08PM|#
"Giada is pretty hot, I guess. Am I the only person in the
world that thinks her head is three sizes too big for her body? I'd
still pipe her, though. Let's be honest."
No, everyone notices that. But when a woman has that tight of a
body and tits that are that nice, she can get away with having a
big head.
Amen, brothers.
|8.14.09 @ 3:10PM|#
Brandybuck,
All Obama had to do was show up and say a few meaningless catch
phrases everyone once in a while and not fuck anything up. The bar
was pretty low. He was handed a job where he really could have
gotten away with doing nothing and been re-elected. But NO, McHopey
had to buy his own hype and go about re-designing the country.
Dumbass.
Craig|8.14.09 @ 3:10PM|#
Once the Whole Foods boycotters get their wish and we have
single-payer groceries, they can all complain about something else
while they wait in their Soviet-style bread lines.
We'll all be freegans then.
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 3:11PM|#
One of my favorite Achewood character blogs is the one where serial killer Nice Pete vists the home of she-who-shall-not-be-named.
|8.14.09 @ 3:12PM|#
Yeah, Rachel looked good in FHM. But she was younger and thinner then. And they are kind of proof, the photographers in magazines like that can make most women look good.
alan|8.14.09 @ 3:12PM|#
"I don't mind Rachel. Her recipies are pretty good some of
them. Also, she causes the foodies heads to explode. So she can't
be all bad."
Rachel Ray reminds me of a hot girl from Long Island I dated in the
day. Her stereotypically mic brother ruined any chance of that
going any where though. Exactly the same voice.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 3:14PM|#
John,
No I haven't seen this show. Though, I feel compelled to do so now.
Thanks for the heads up.
|8.14.09 @ 3:19PM|#
Kyle
It is called "Its me or the Dog" and woman's name is Victoria
Stilwell. She just reaks of English head mistress naughtiness.
bubba|8.14.09 @ 3:19PM|#
EVOO makes me think of Rachel Ray dipped in chocolate. In a good
way.
Freegan makes me think of a recent episode of The Goode
Family:
http://www.fancast.com/tv/The-Goode-Family/100177/episodes/Freeganomics/700574
The Goodes quickly realize the Freegan might be nothing more
than a freeloader, but have trouble getting him to leave.
|8.14.09 @ 3:20PM|#
Pro,
My wife uses several of her recipes and they are good. She can to
cook. The only people who think she can't are foodies who are
appalled that she is using EVOO when VOO would work better because
of its lower smoke point, the philistine.
alan|8.14.09 @ 3:21PM|#
No one's thought to call Rachael Ray TEH TERRORIST
yet?
Read about the health authoritarian official in Panama City who got
canned for being an asshole? Cheers to Florida. There are days
where you still have got it.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 3:24PM|#
John,
Thank you. The quick Google and YouTube search turned up some great
stuff.
|8.14.09 @ 3:26PM|#
Personally, I was always waiting for the day the stupid hippies
figured out Mackey was a libertarian. Of course they shit their
pants. A) They love TEH OUTRAGE and B) The human body wasn't design
to actually take in that amount of fiber.
Ina made this cream-poached chicken and morels dish one time that
was insane. At least she got big the right way, not a car full of
McDonald wrappers.
|8.14.09 @ 3:28PM|#
"Bourdaine > Ray to infinity
It's pretty funny when he rails on her."
Bourdaine does kick ass. And his show is great. Since he was
exectutive chef at La Halles in New York, he apparently can cook.
But that said, he doesn't exactly teach you how to cook. He just
goes around the world eating and making smart ass remarks. Makes
for great TV, but not really much good to help you fix dinner.
|8.14.09 @ 3:30PM|#
I would like to see the great Anthony Bourdain Gorden Ramsey throwdown. Bourdain would kick his ass.
MNG|8.14.09 @ 3:30PM|#
Again, I thought libertarians burnt the Whole Foods CEO at the stake when he dared suggest that corporations may have some social responsibility outside maximization of shareholder dollars in Reason a few years back.
MNG|8.14.09 @ 3:32PM|#
Ahh, here it is!
http://www.reason.com/news/show/32239.html
It pays to be a long time subscriber with a good memory...
|8.14.09 @ 3:32PM|#
MNG,
This strange perversion should be thrown in your face whenever you
support liberal positions around here. "Yeah, but you like R.....
R..".
Opening the discussion to TV food personalities, I like Alton Brown
and still like Emeril. The latter really does some great dishes,
and I eat at one of his restaurants about once a year (over in
Orlando).
|8.14.09 @ 3:34PM|#
MNG,
So what? First, you have some perverse, inhuman desire for that
pestilence of the kitchen.
Second, so we disagree with him on one issue and agree on
another.
|8.14.09 @ 3:35PM|#
Emeril is so annoying. He is like Rachal Ray if she were a fat hairy Portugese dude. For shame Pro.
|8.14.09 @ 3:35PM|#
network.nature.com/.../2009/03/06/surreal-estate
Check out the nigela shot in the comments there. Wow.
Geoff|8.14.09 @ 3:35PM|#
I like Martha Stewart better than RR. She was a looker back in days...decades before I was born.
|8.14.09 @ 3:36PM|#
Annoying? So the hell what? He's annoying and Bourdain's an asshole. But they can both cook.
|8.14.09 @ 3:37PM|#
I like Martha's smart ass daughter and her fat friend. They do the MST 3000 verson of home shows on Fine Living. It is hysterical.
|8.14.09 @ 3:37PM|#
Oh, poor Joshua
Favorite Music
* Movie Scores
* Broadway Musicals
* Classic Disco
Favorite Books
* Wicked
* Harry Potter
* The Historian
* The Last Templar
* The Da Vinci Code
* Angels & Demons
* Harry Bosch
* The Golden Compass
* Lord of the Rings
* Tales of the City
Your musical taste is a mockery of gay men everywhere. Why didn't
just say: Streisand, Streisand, Streisand.
But your book selection is... just... wow. Maybe if you were a
teenager... but at 45 this is the reading list of a fucking moron.
No wonder you don't have a job. I doubt you could even bag
groceries at a Whole Foods. "Er, duh... I pour bleach on
oranges?"
I swear, if I didn't already know they have the same thoughts like
some commie hive mind, I'd think that was Tony The Troll's
blog.
MNG|8.14.09 @ 3:38PM|#
http://www.rachaelraypictures.com/rachael_ray_pictures/TV_Stills/image31.htm
Who wouldn't hit that Pro?
You and Tony I guess ;)
|8.14.09 @ 3:40PM|#
MNG,
My views are on record.
I forgive you slightly for your completely heterosexual love of
Alton Brown. Good Eats is one of the only shows I catch
semi-regularly.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 3:40PM|#
Alton Brown is great. I have about 40 percent of the HD on my
DVR used up with Good Eats episodes. I watch that show like I watch
a regular TV show.
Emeril is good too. I miss Mario. Mario is badass.
|8.14.09 @ 3:41PM|#
I swear I am not kidding. I once refused to rehire a student after summer break because he talked about how attractive he thought Ray was. He was also a sociopath, but it was 90% the Ray thing.
|8.14.09 @ 3:41PM|#
I agree with you MNG. Why the hell someone would let their taste in cooking get in the way of a good piece of ass is beyond me. If I were single and ran into Rachel, I would tell her she is the best cook on the planet.
|8.14.09 @ 3:42PM|#
"I swear I am not kidding. I once refused to rehire a student
after summer break because he talked about how attractive he
thought Ray was. He was also a sociopath, but it was 90% the Ray
thing."
You know it is illegal for you other team types to descriminate
against us heterosexuals.
JB|8.14.09 @ 3:42PM|#
And you can't get beer or wine at grocery stores in MD nor
DC.
You can get beer and wine at the Whole Foods on 14th & P.
Though Leftists galore inhabit that store.
|8.14.09 @ 3:42PM|#
When I got my Series 3 TiVo, I upgraded the HD on the Series 1 and I only use it to store Good Eats episodes. I have them all.
|8.14.09 @ 3:43PM|#
John,
The point is that she is neither. And to think the commenters here
used to have taste.
SugarFree,
You just moved up three notches on my secret Hit & Run list.
Viking Moose will send you some extra virgin olive oil.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 3:44PM|#
"When I got my Series 3 TiVo, I upgraded the HD on the Series 1
and I only use it to store Good Eats episodes. I have them
all."
Nice! I'm hoping to have the spare cash eventually to buy all the
DVDs.
Kyle Jordan|8.14.09 @ 3:45PM|#
"Good Eats and Mythbusters could be a network for me."
Excellent call.
Mmmm, Kari.....
|8.14.09 @ 3:46PM|#
Good Eats is a great show. My wife and I use our DVR to watch it like every night. My entire DVR is Good eats and Top Gear.
Rhywun|8.14.09 @ 3:48PM|#
Joshua rides a bus and, it appears, is fond of government handouts. I suspect he is on welfare enjoying the rewards others earned through their labors. Josh, next time your in the grocery store buying your organic apples take a moment to shake hands and thank one of the employees there who paid for it.
I want to hear the twirl in your mustache when you say
that!
|8.14.09 @ 3:49PM|#
I try to keep the Series 3 clean, but I've watch the 2nd season of Californication 7 or 8 times. Cannot. Delete.
alan|8.14.09 @ 3:49PM|#
MNG | August 14, 2009, 3:38pm | #
http://www.rachaelraypictures.com/rachael_ray_pictures/TV_Stills/image31.htm
Who wouldn't hit that Pro?
You and Tony I guess ;)
I'm on record, Ray is hot. I can't resist lips like hers that are
totaly made for oral.
|8.14.09 @ 3:50PM|#
When House gets canceled some day, I want Hugh Laurie
to take the character and do some kind of medical show. Good
Eats with an cranky twist. Oh, and for medicine, not
food.
That, or I'd like for Christoper Walken to do
that cooking show for real.
Sandy gets some extra virgin olive oil as well!
alan|8.14.09 @ 3:55PM|#
Sandi | August 14, 2009, 3:47pm | #
I took a shit in Rachel Rae's pool once.
Did you record the event and post it at 4chan?
alan|8.14.09 @ 3:57PM|#
Episiarch | August 14, 2009, 1:48pm | #
Naga, where else am I going to get Spanish extra virgin olive oil,
raw milk Gorgonzola, and frozen mahi mahi burgers?
Epi, If I ever go freegan, I hanging out on the corner of your
residence.
|8.14.09 @ 3:57PM|#
MNG
Again, I thought libertarians burnt the Whole Foods CEO at the stake when he dared suggest that corporations may have some social responsibility outside maximization of shareholder dollars in Reason a few years back.
...so we disagree with him on one issue and agree on another.
I'm not sure how much actual siagreement there is.
Some of us just think his "social responsibility" shtick is his way
of maximizing shareholder dollars. Milton Friedman said as
much.
Won't be for long if he starts pissing off his "progressive"
customers though.
Wait til they find out what a union busting son of a bitch he
is.
Actually this hurricane will blow over in no time. That is if it
even builds up past the tropical low stage. I'm with Lamar that
most of WF shoppers don't care about Mackey's politics.
|8.14.09 @ 3:59PM|#
Isaac,
There's plenty of disagreement about his unclean and morally empty
R.R. fetish.
|8.14.09 @ 4:02PM|#
For the record I go to Whole Foods for the beer selection, the
sausage and most especially the Buffalo Burgers at $6.99/lb.
Since I can't shoot my own buffalo, they are the next best
thing.
|8.14.09 @ 4:03PM|#
Bourdain is the man but I've never been thrilled with the few
dishes he ends up cooking on his show. Maybe if he did a few more
that would change.
Mario Batali is a fucking master but he's sort of a douche too. All
his recipes call for obscure shit that I would even have trouble
finding in NYC. WE'RE NOT IN ITALY, MARIO.
Rachael R... is a horrible loud chubby creature thing that makes
low grade chum for food. That is all, I have spoken.
Ming Tsai was cool back in the day and made some great East/West
fusion stuff. He is also a champion squash player.
I'm off to Whole Foods now. Seriously.
|8.14.09 @ 4:03PM|#
Wait, John Mackey has a Rachel Ray fetish?
That's it I'm never taking the bus to Whole Foods again!
WWJGD|8.14.09 @ 4:08PM|#
No Reservations really isn't a cooking show tho. But if you pay attention, you can find cookbooks/recipes by the people he interviews and some are far out but pretty interesting. Bourdain really wouldn't fit for a cooking show, frankly.
Petes a Pie|8.14.09 @ 4:08PM|#
I wrote to Whole Foods to tell them how much I appreciated John Mackey's ideas. I also signed up for their email list so I can receive the sales flyer. I don't shop there often because it is not in a location that is convenient for me, but I will make a point of getting there more often now. Fyi-they have great ahi tuna and the cheddar burgers from the butcher counter are the best.
Geoff|8.14.09 @ 4:09PM|#
I got a wok for Christmas when I was 8 because of Yan Can Cook.
That dude is the man.
On a side know, it is very likely that the FrugalGourmet, Jeff
Smith, is living under a bridge in Florida these days.
|8.14.09 @ 4:18PM|#
Geoff,
Smith's Cooks American was the fist cookbook I ever
bought. And I still use his Immigrant Ancestors all the
time.
JB|8.14.09 @ 4:19PM|#
I also signed up for their email list so I can receive the
sales flyer.
Great idea. Just did the same.
|8.14.09 @ 4:19PM|#
Fluffy | August 14, 2009, 2:10pm | #
Trader Joe's sucks.
It occupies less the "gourmet foodie stuff" niche and more the "Ad
Aware I don't want to buy anything with a brand name" niche. But
now it has become so large that Trader Joe's has itself become a
brand name, so the customers trying to step outside the corporate
branding system by shopping there are pushing around tiny little
half-size shopping carts of FAIL.
--I almost spit a mouthfull of Puffins cereal and soy milk all over
my Life Is Good t-shirt when I read this...lol I frequent the local
TJs and that spin you put on my pathetic life was awesomely
awakening. Thank you. :)
|8.14.09 @ 4:21PM|#
Martin Yan is great fun. I also liked Justin Wilson.
Episiarch,
Mario Batali did some sort of show with. . .some blond scion of an
acting family whose name escapes me (wait, I remember: Gwyneth
Paltrow). Anyway, it was in Spain. I didn't see the show, but I did
read the cookbook. Pretty good food. I was especially intrigued by
the "Spanish" toast recipe (Spanish French toast) that used reduced
grape juice or wine as the syrup.
Chinny Chin Chin|8.14.09 @ 4:24PM|#
Xeones | August 14, 2009, 2:50pm | #
Like Pro L, i married a skilled cook, though i myself am no slouch in the kitchen.
Don't sell yourself short. You're a tremendous slouch.
|8.14.09 @ 4:29PM|#
Pro,
How do you do a cooking show with an anorexic? What did Paltrow
talk about how to eat a live tape worm or how to properly make
yourself throw up after you eat?
Me|8.14.09 @ 4:30PM|#
Kyle Jordan | August 14, 2009, 3:40pm | #
Alton Brown is great.
If you want to spend a half-hour learning how to make popcorn,
yeah.
|8.14.09 @ 4:31PM|#
Well, I did my part: I just returned from my first-ever visit to
a Whole Foods store, where I spent more than $70.
I still like Kroger better because the single chicks there smile at
you when you pass in the aisles; the women shopping at Whole Foods
glared when I even tried to make eye contact.
But I'll definitely be rooting for Whole Foods now. (Thanks for the
heads-up, Joshua!)
Xeones|8.14.09 @ 4:31PM|#
Ming Tsai was cool back in the day and made some great
East/West fusion stuff.
Agreed. From personal experience, his chicken and carrots in
coconut-molasses sauce kicks ass.
Don't sell yourself short. You're a tremendous
slouch.
Not in the kitchen, though, sonny.
|8.14.09 @ 4:36PM|#
I think Whole Foods is a great store for that hard to get stuff
and honestly the produce is always very good. My only real beef
with them is that they insist on wallpapering and signing the whole
store with this bullshit about "supporting local growers". But then
all the signs with the name and price of the food either say South
Africa or New Zealand on them.** I mean, dam, could you be less
local? Was there no other PLANET to get food from? How does no one
notice this and say WhereTF is all the local food you're talking
about?!
**I am not in South Africa or New Zealand.
|8.14.09 @ 4:36PM|#
Me,
Shut the hell up, you fascist. Alton Brown is like a colossus
bestriding your prostrate body.
John,
Like I said, I didn't see it. From the pictures in the cookbook,
though, it looks like they all (there were others in the Mario
posse) drove around Spain and ate a lot. Well, maybe Mario did,
anyway.
Okay, here's a link.
|8.14.09 @ 4:42PM|#
I got gelato at the Whole Foods in Nashville. When I lifted up
my spoon for the first bite, there was a long blond hair protruding
from the icy goodness. I was right in front of the gelato cabinet,
and I (good-naturedly) asked the obvious culprit "are hair nets bad
for the planet or something?"
She called me an asshole.
I LOL'd and never went back. Seems like a cool place to shop, but
it's such a zoo every time I go.
Rhywun|8.14.09 @ 4:56PM|#
Wait til they find out what a union busting son of a bitch he is.
Is he really? Then how did he get a store open in Manhattan?
Drunkenatheist |8.14.09 @ 5:07PM|#
I used to think it was hilarious when I shopped at Whole
Paycheck all the time. A bunch of former friends would give me shit
to no end about the decision because I was being a bourgeois, omg!
union busting! fucker. They preferred to shop at the grocery stores
of the people, aka: totally awesome union places like Shoprite.
Whole Foods, the same company that starts their shittiest positions
(cart runner) ranging from $10-$13 an hour.
Shoprite, the same company that starts their check-out clerk
positions at $7.50 an hour, even if you have years of retail
experience and a Bachelors degree.
I'd much rather shop at the terrible, union busting company that
treats and trains their employees much better than
a union grocery store that seems more concerned with collecting
union dues than actually doing shit for their employees. To quote
one of my boyfriend's favorite quotes, "the best way to union bust
is to TREAT YOUR EMPLOYEES WELL."
These ex-friends are also blind Democrats who have undoubtedly
become full-fledged Zombamas. To be honest, I'm really shocked that
there are apparently enough socialized healthcare lovin' Whole
Foods shoppers to make a boycott effective. And by "shocked," I
mean, "do they understand how a boycott works?!?!??!" Most Zombamas
won't set foot in the store because it might destroy their faux
working class/poor cred and they couldn't have that! If they did,
they'd lose all legitimacy in telling poor people what's best for
them!
|8.14.09 @ 5:12PM|#
Damn. Now I'm hungry and I have no idea what to cook for
dinner.
Go to Whole Foods, and you'll find more than you wanted to
spend.
JB|8.14.09 @ 5:18PM|#
By the way, I recommend contacting Whole Foods to let them know
your thoughts:
http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/company/contact_submit.php
Probably a good idea to balance out all the hate-filled hypocrites
calling for a boycott.
Vanessa|8.14.09 @ 5:24PM|#
Was thinking of taking one of my occasional trips to Whole Foods tonight anyway. After reading about Joshua, it's confirmed.
T|8.14.09 @ 5:27PM|#
Go to Whole Foods, and you'll find more than you wanted to
spend.
It's way out of the way for the trip home.
|8.14.09 @ 5:40PM|#
From way up at the beginning:
They have disappointed me, though, by not having fresh rabbit
or duck.
That's because they refuse to carry any D'Artagnan (one of the main
purveyors of things like fresh rabbit) products, because D'Artagnan
sells fois gras.
Vanessa|8.14.09 @ 5:51PM|#
Trader Joe's is a great place to shop for the cheap and lazy. Their deli and frozen meals are tolerable for taking to work for lunch and they don't do damage to my digestive tract the way Stouffer's and similar brands do.
|8.14.09 @ 5:54PM|#
I'm a little surprised, I've been looking through some left-wing
blogs and such, and not finding too much like "I disagree with his
editorial, but maybe he's just mistaken and not evil" or "He's just
the CEO, why punish the whole company for the opinion of one guy?"
Only two so far:
Here's
one:
In principle, I don't believe there should be economic boycots
based on political speech that doesn't rise to the level of hate
speech or the like.
And
here:
Well, I gotta give him props for one thing.
He definitely places personal principle and integrity over
financial concerns. :D
Wouldn't we all be proud if a Progressive person did that? Wouldn't
we applaud and call for support if a Progressive placed personal
integrity and fidelity to their principles over the health of their
business?
So why, when a Conservative does it, do we take umbrage?
Cliché Bandit|8.14.09 @ 6:21PM|#
1. Rachel R.'s recipes, while fantastic and tasty, will make you
fatter than Ina. My wife and I tried the 365 No Repeats one year
and gained 15 pounds the first week...NO SHIT!.
score = 5.5, I'd still hit it.
2. Giada is hot and super rich and daddy got her a cooking show. In
all fairness she is not a great cook and her annoying presentation
style kills me. But some of her stuff is good.
score = 7.5, Totally hit it.
3. Alton Brown is by far the most interesting. He ACTUALLY teaches
you shit you can bring up at cocktail parties to annoy people. I
love it.
score = 8.5, Would not hit it.
4. Bourdain vs. Ramsey. Considering Bourdain is an extremely
accomplished chef and Ramsey has mild accomplishments Bourdain
would kick his ass if he were sober.
score = 9 Bourdain
score = 6 Ramsey
5. Emeril is a living god. I love his recipes BUT who the flying
hell can afford to take 30 pounds of prime beef and stuff it with
TWO lobster tails and then top the dish off with a white truffle
risotto...SERIOUSLY. I am not paying 2000 dollars for a meal.
6. Iron Chef meets Mythbusters with a side of Good Eats...I'm down
with that.
Live long and prosper
Cliché Bandit|8.14.09 @ 6:25PM|#
NEVER EVER EVER go to Whole Foods without a list unless you have
a Black (racist?) Visa. Impulse buying at WFs can cause bank
failures in some eastern states.
Words to live by
Joe M|8.14.09 @ 6:35PM|#
"So why, when a Conservative does it, do we take umbrage?"
He's not even a conservative.
C. Grape|8.14.09 @ 7:08PM|#
I plan to reward Mr. Mackey with even more visits to his fine (if pricey) store.
|8.14.09 @ 7:38PM|#
i have to drive a total of 12 miles to my nearest WF, because it's 12 miles as the crow flies in northern new jersey, that's about 45 minutes of driving, at least, on congested poorly designed ancient highways. There are however half a dozen within a mile of me, so i'm never going to whole foods unless i need something obscure and non-perishable.
|8.14.09 @ 7:39PM|#
Considering Bourdain is an extremely accomplished chef and
Ramsey has mild accomplishments Bourdain would kick his ass if he
were sober.
Ramsey is a FAR more accomplished chef than Bourdain. Bourdain is
much cooler though.
|8.14.09 @ 7:49PM|#
You can in Maryland, at exactly one grocery store per
county. How much money do think that little privelege goes for? In
Maryland government it is always first and foremost about
stealing.
Yes, John, I do know that, but it's so pathetic that it wasn't
worth mentioning.
It drives me nuts when I walk into the Pentagon City Costco to this
massive wall of inexpensive beer and wine, knowing that the one 10
minutes from my house is dry.
|8.14.09 @ 7:54PM|#
Giada, okay. I don't get attraction to RR.
Bah. Take 2.
Me neither. But now that you wrote 'Giada', I'm sitting in a pool
of my own drool.
Fucking Pavlov.
alan|8.14.09 @ 10:17PM|#
am i the only one with a paula deen/butter
fetish?
She comes off as a big phony -- over doing the Southern Gran-dame
thing to the point of extreme annoyance.
Mike Laursen|8.14.09 @ 10:34PM|#
Wait..what...he didn't do that?
No, he's said what he thinks several times. Liberals just haven't
paid any attention until now.
Jason Straetz|8.14.09 @ 10:36PM|#
Joshua is an ass!!
And as for for you Mr Lent. Why do you imply that he supports our
"expensive wars"? Because he believes in free-market reforms in
health care. I did not realize those two polices were so similar. I
am enlightened and you are a jerk.
|8.14.09 @ 10:37PM|#
she's a product of her own myth/pr machine. most of her recipes
suck. i just felt the old broad needed some representation.
on Giada - everyone focuses on her abnormally large head, but that
is only enhanced by her cartoonishly narrow neck. How he's lived
this long without becoming a quadrapeligic amazes me.
Mike Laursen|8.14.09 @ 10:54PM|#
Again, I thought libertarians burnt the Whole Foods CEO at
the stake when he dared suggest that corporations may have some
social responsibility outside maximization of shareholder dollars
in Reason a few years back.
Well, it was mostly just T.J. Rodgers. That would be one
libertarian, not libertarians, and even he has probably eaten his
share of groceries from Whole Foods.
Mike Laursen|8.14.09 @ 11:01PM|#
Bourdaine > Ray to infinity ... It's pretty funny when he
rails on her.
Bourdain keeps running into the problem that now that he is
somewhat famous he keeps running into the folks he has ragged on
for years (Emeril, Sandra Lee, She-who-shall-not-be-named), and
they all turn out to be nice to him.
It's taken the wind out of his sarcasm sails. Like if one were to
meet Lonewacko in person, only to find out he's extremely kind to
animals and small children.
Mr. Chartreuse|8.14.09 @ 11:01PM|#
I think R. Ray is totally hot.
Well, I finally found something that I can agree about with
MNG.
Kyle Jordan|8.15.09 @ 12:11AM|#
"am i the only one with a paula deen/butter fetish?"
When she first started and was a bit calmer with the more typical
recipes, she reminded me of my mom and the way she cooks sometimes.
I like Paula but she can be a bit much.
Wade|8.15.09 @ 12:20AM|#
I actually will go to that store now that I see a good CEO I'm sure he runs a great company
Eric H|8.15.09 @ 2:39AM|#
Like if one were to meet Lonewacko in person, only to find out he's extremely kind to animals and small children.
Some might say too kind....
|8.15.09 @ 3:44AM|#
good for the Boycotters. the right wings has lost the right to cry about tolerance. The boycotters are excercising their right. I hope more people join in.
|8.15.09 @ 5:24AM|#
Seems to me that as a business proposition, Joshua's not the
kind of customer you really want. Whole Foods wants the
guilt-tripping yuppies who believe that "organic" means something
other than "more expensive for inferior quality", not the
impoverished, bus-riding hippies who will boycott them over the CEO
writing a heretical op-ed.
-jcr
JB|8.15.09 @ 7:06PM|#
Hey dumas(s):
I am glad less people like you will be in the stores; it will be
more enjoyable when I shop there.
JP|8.15.09 @ 7:34PM|#
No one is telling Mackey that he can't say what he wants. He's
free to say whatever the hell he wants. And the customers are free
to say, "y'know what? We don't want to support a person like you"
and go elsewhere. Some of you on here have said things like, "I've
never shopped at Whole Foods before, but after hearing Mackey's
comments, I think I'll start." How is that any different? Aren't
the boycotters free to shop wherever they want? Aren't you?
If your store of choice came out with left-wing statements, chances
are many of you would be boycotting them as well. Look at the Dixie
Chicks boycott from a few years back -- that's something caused by
your side. Or what about the Freedom Fries debacle? Your side
again.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
drunkenatheist|8.15.09 @ 8:34PM|#
If your store of choice came out with left-wing statements,
chances are many of you would be boycotting them as well. Look at
the Dixie Chicks boycott from a few years back -- that's something
caused by your side. Or what about the Freedom Fries debacle? Your
side again.
O rly?
You might want to wiki "Freedom Fries" and look up who was behind
it; you might also want to refresh your memory on what prompted the
anti-Dixie Chicks shiz. (HINT: It was an anti-Iraq war
statement.)
Lamarck\'s Giraffe|8.15.09 @ 8:54PM|#
JP would have made better use of his time learning the
difference between Republicans and libertarians that scolding
everyone about glass houses.
Alton Brown rocks and just looking at Paula Dean disturbs me, and
not in the hot, megadontia Gianda way. I'm pretty confident pure
butter pumps through her veins.
Mike Laursen|8.16.09 @ 12:35AM|#
Aren't the boycotters free to shop wherever they
want?
Absolutely, and we're free to make merciless fun of some sad sack
who is boycotting Whole Foods for asinine reasons.
Mike Laursen|8.16.09 @ 12:44AM|#
WTF. There are claims all over the liberal blogs that somebody from Whole Foods, not Mackey, sent out emails apologizing for Mackey's editorial. Shit, now, I'm might have to boycott Whole Foods.
Mike Laursen|8.16.09 @ 12:49AM|#
Hmm, looks like what is being quoted is a standard reply email being sent out to anyone who emailed Whole Foods complaining about the editorial.
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