Matt Welch | July 16, 2009
Here's something that happens way too regularly while being noticed way too infrequently: "Court knew man jailed for a year for non-support was not child's father."
The details, from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
Frank Hatley has languished in a South Georgia jail for more than a year.
The reason? He failed to reimburse the state for all the public assistance his "son" received over the past two decades.
The problem? Hatley is not the biological father -- and a special assistant state attorney general and a judge knew it but jailed Hatley anyway. [...]
Even after learning he was not the father, Hatley paid thousands of dollars the state said he owed for support. After losing his job and becoming homeless, he still made payments out of his unemployment benefits.
Hatley's lawyer, Sarah Geraghty of the Southern Center for Human Rights in Atlanta, said two independent DNA tests -- one nine years ago and one just a few days ago -- prove he is not the biological father.
"This is a case of excessive zeal to recover money trumping common sense," she said. "What possible legitimate reason can the state have to pursue Mr. Hatley for child support when he does not have any children?"
In a nutshell, Hatley had a relationship with a woman in the 1980s (they never married), she became pregnant, told him the child was his, then they broke up soon after the birth. When the mother applied for welfare in 1989, the state went after Hatley to reimburse the cost and pay regular child support going forward. He complied, in part because he thought he was the father. In 2000, a DNA sample proved that he wasn't, and the next year Hatley won a court order relieving him of future child support obligations. But the state said he still owed $16,000+ in back support. He paid almost $6,000 of that back, but then got fired, became homeless, fell behind in his payments, and got jailed for contempt. The state's Office of Child Support Services says, with sadness more than anger, that Hatley is "dealing with a valid court order," and that he has failed to make an official request to be relieved of his remaining obligations.
Not mentioned in the article: The guy is ineligible to obtain a U.S. passport. Also, the same predicament can face men who have never even met the mother of the child in question. For more on that nightmare, see my 2004 Reason story, "Injustice by Default."
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I wonder if the liberals who objected to Bush locking up people
w/ trial as "terrorists" will have an issue with locking this guy
up when the govt knew he was innocent.
Is that even a question?
"Here's something that happens way too regularly while being
noticed way too infrequently:"
Shouldn't that be "far" to regularly? Or perhaps Matt is relying on
The Valley Girl Stylebook.
Where's Maury when you need him? Sounds like the mother needs to
reimburse the state and if not, lock her ass up! Then this guy
should sue her for the trouble she caused.
Too bad they can't make abortion retroactive! (and I mean the
mother!)
This isn't all that uncommon here in Georgia either. I used to
work at the local jail as a kitchen supervisor. I had one inmate
who worked for me that is in for non-payment of child support,
though in this case the kid was indeed his. He had been in jail for
almost a year, and wasn't going to be released until he paid all
the back child support.
My response? How the hell is he supposed to pay it when he's locked
up and can't work to earn money to pay?
There's more than a couple in for kids that aren't theirs as
well.
The state's Office of Child Support Services says, with
sadness more than anger, that Hatley is "dealing with a valid court
order," and that he has failed to make an official request to be
relieved of his remaining obligations.
See! They're human; they empathize with the poor fellow, but
they're helpless to do anything about it.
Lawz is lawz.
This is sickening. But I do have to wonder why he didn't make a
request for relief from past obligations when he won a court order
for relief from future obligations.
ANd at least he was able to free himself from future
obligations...if I remmebre correctly in Cali unless you contest
being the fater witin a year or two they don't give a fuck if you
are the father or not because it's in the best interest of the
child that someone (you) continue to support the child.
Sickening all around
The default judgment issue does seem to be the most atrocious
aspect of child support as it lacks even minimal due process
protections. It basically involves the woman making up a name. Then
social services looks for any match and mails a to the wrong
address. The person fails to show up, and a default judgment is
entered. Finally, when the persons pay is docked, the courts ignore
appeals as the person failed to show up.
There is another less severe aspect of child support which effects
far more people. It is called imputed income. There has been a
minor problem of people trying to get even by taking minimum wage
jobs and having support adjusted accordingly to get even. Now
judges can decide how much you should be making and apply the
ratios to that hypothetical income. This removes the non custodial
parents freedom to start a new career, a business, or even a new
life in one famous New Zealand case. In that situation a man got
married to a woman in New Zealand and moved there from the US. He
made less money in New Zealand and requested that his support be
modified. The state court refused, so he adjusted it downward
himself. There is a child support treaty with New Zealand and the
action was taken to New Zealand courts to garnish his wages. He won
that case. The US however found him to be a felon when the arrears
hit 5k and took his passport. Not sure how the situation ended, but
I assume that he applied for New Zealand citizenship as a political
refugee.
My advice to everyone is don't have children, ever.
Or perhaps Matt is relying on The Valley Girl
Stylebook.
Perhaps the sun sets in the west?
"My response? How the hell is he supposed to pay it when he's
locked up and can't work to earn money to pay?"
I thought we'd put an end to debtor's prisons in this country.
There is an entire doctrine out there that has been adopted in
some states called constructive fatherhood. Under the doctrine,
after a man pays child support and acts as the child's father for a
certain period of time it no longer matters if the child is his
biological child. The paramount interests here is the "best
interests of the child". Clearly it is in the child's best interest
that the guy continue to pay support. So he does. It doesn't matter
that the slut mother lied about who the father was. All that
matters is that the state found some poor schmuck to pay and now he
is going to pay. It makes about as much sense and does about as
much justice as just randomly picking a man's name out of the
phonebook and declaring that man to be some bastard's father.
In some states this guy, will still be on the hook for child
support.
I can understand that it is extremely difficult (but not impossible) to re-open a court case. Well, at least he's getting three hots and a cot. A fresh bologna sandwich beats anything you can find in a dumpster.
"Perhaps the sun sets in the west?"
Noodling catfish is a hoot!
In some states this guy, will still be on the hook for child
support.
I think in *most* states this would be the case. At the least, it's
very common. DNA typically begins to run out of usefulness in
paternity/support cases after one year. And, if menfolk submit to
the badgering they get at the (incentivized) hospitals to sign up
for the Paternity Opportunity Program (POP go the weasels!), then
DNA is of no help at all.
I thought we'd put an end to debtor's prisons in this
country.
Not when you owe the government money.
That's Contempt of Court. In Camden County, NJ, if you owe back
support, not only can they now hold you indefinitely, they put you
to work at the recycling yard separating glass from cans. But only
if you owe child support on a child whose mother collects
welfare.
I can understand that it is extremely difficult (but not
impossible) to re-open a court case. Well, at least he's getting
three hots and a cot. A fresh bologna sandwich beats anything you
can find in a dumpster.
The unintended double-entendres in that post about jail are
astounding... and frightening.
"My response? How the hell is he supposed to pay it when
he's locked up and can't work to earn money to pay?"
I thought we'd put an end to debtor's prisons in this
country.
You would think that, wouldn't you?
"Court knew man jailed for a year for non-support was not
child's father."
Who was the judge? Maury Povich?
(Sorry, Mike in PA, I know you beat me to it but I couldn't
resist...)
Reading up on the POP thing - that is some serious twisted shit. I am ging to have my first child paternity tested - regardless. seems like the only way you can be safe.
he has failed to make an official request
Of course the guy should be in jail! He didn't fill out the right
fucking form! I'm surprised he's not being fast-tracked to a date
with lethal injection.
Thanks for starting my day off with some good news Matt. Jerk.
My boyfriend is paying support for a child that is not his in Washington state. The law here is that if you do not contest paternity in 3 years,and though they knew it wasn't his because they did a private DNA test, the test was not admissible in court, so the obligation as legal father is his. The real father is known, but could not be forced to participate in the test and now he pays nothing. Even some very expensive attorneys and a huge fight could not turn the states decision around. This is happening too often.
Do we know for a fact this guy didn't get himself booked into jail intentionally? Honestly, if I was ever homeless and for some reason (addiction etc) lacked the ability to pull myself out of it, I would strongly consider 'stealing' a friend's car for three hots and a cot, as mentioned above.
...and got jailed for contempt.
Some civil servants, a prosecutor, and a judge should be glad that
statement doesn't read, "...and got jailed for a killing spree,
killing a judge prosecutor, and numerous child services employees,
after suffering harassment from the courts and state."
Oh, blackwidow, I think the real father can be made to pay something - if only to get the key scratches out of his car, etc.
...and got jailed for a killing spree
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I wonder if the liberals who objected to Bush locking up
people w/ trial as "terrorists" will have an issue with locking
this guy up when the govt knew he was innocent.
They approve of anything involving the government taking people's
money and giving it to others. Especially children.
I would strongly consider 'stealing' a friend's car for
three hots and a cot, as mentioned above.
Never been in jail, huh? It makes rehab look like a
Vegas vacation.
How is a court order relieving future obligations not enough notice? Just another reason not to dip your wick in the trash barrel.
It's another reason to make pregnancy solely the responsibility
of the woman. Child support makes little sense in terms of fairness
or justice, and it is a perversion of justice in the age of
abortion.
Pregnancy happens to women. Women "choose" (that's what pro-choice
is all about) to keep the child. There's no reason to put the sperm
donor on the hook for the woman's choice.
Longtorso is an idiot. This has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives. This man was done wrong and taken advantage of and should never have been jailed in the first place. If anything, he should have recourse against the state, the mother, or both. That "child" is now 22 years old and the only contact this guy had was by check. The mother should be jailed.
Reason has covered cases similar to this before. It seems that
the guy's mistake was ever paying child support in the first place.
Once the state has a name and an SSN for the "father" then they
have no incentive to look further.
Domo, you're spot-on about POP being some very scary stuff. I think
every man, even gay ones, needs to fear this because it seems that
all it takes is a j'accuse from a pregnant woman and you're
presumed guilty...
Not even Kafka does justice to these stories.
Utterly horrifying. Some woman could just pick your name out of a
phone book and you're screwed.
Jesus Christ. That bitch should be aborted.
She is a useless fucking fetus that needs to get off my planet.
he has failed to make an official request to be relieved of
his remaining obligations.
Wait, wut?
'Pregnancy happens to women. Women "choose" (that's what
pro-choice is all about) to keep the child. There's no reason to
put the sperm donor on the hook for the woman's choice.'
Responding like this to the problem of false paternity accusations
would be, literally, overkill.
Because some men are falsely accused, we should stop collecting
child support from *real* fathers? We should instead incentivize
abortion?
Because some men are falsely accused, we should stop
collecting child support from *real* fathers?
This is very hard for libertarians to answer. Let's say a child's
parents refused to bring it up. Should that be illegal? Should they
be forced to do so, somehow? Or should they be forced to pay for
the state to bring the kid up instead? Or should they just face
opprobrium and let charities pick up the pieces? I mean, if no-one
wants the kid, does it have a (positive) "right to life"?
The state's Office of Child Support Services says, with sadness more than anger, that Hatley is "dealing with a valid court order,"
IOW: Reality and justice must conform themselves to our paperwork.
By order.
Asshats.
I propose that anyone---especially politicians and civil
servants---who finds this situation acceptable is a candidate for a
finding of incompetency. And institutionalization.
The default judgment issue does seem to be the most
atrocious aspect of child support as it lacks even minimal due
process protections. It basically involves the woman making up a
name. Then social services looks for any match and mails a to the
wrong address. The person fails to show up, and a default judgment
is entered. Finally, when the persons pay is docked, the courts
ignore appeals as the person failed to show up.
What's even worse, in most (all?) states if the mother gives the
wrong address, even if she knows it's the wrong address,
that doesn't vacate the child support order. I'm surprised that
wealthy and famous men aren't child support targets. Mom gives the
child support authorities a name and false address, waits the
statutory 30 days or whatever pathetic time he has to respond, and
then hits him up for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in
tax-free child support. Who knows how many dozens of children Tiger
Woods has fathered! Nothing is going to change until a really rich
and famous guy gets gored by the system.
Bob Smith
Nothing is going to change until a really rich and famous guy gets gored by the system.
Don't think that will work. On the one hand, the rich guy will have
sycophants in the government that will help him out. On the other
hand, 'everybody' will assume that it really is his kid, no matter
how many DNA tests he has. And how do you know it hasn't already
happened?
And how do you know it hasn't already happened
You're right, I don't. A man of some wealth and only local repute
could have already suffered such a fate. It is more likely,
however, that somebody of regional or national repute will be the
target of such a scam, since the scammer is much more likely to
have heard of them.
How likely is it that you could launch a child support suit against
anybody of sufficient renown without the media finding out about
it? What does the target gain by being silent about his being
screwed by the system? These factors are why I don't think it's
happened yet.
Registering births needs bringing into the 21stC ... the word of
the mother in naming the father should no longer be legally valid,
not when we have the technology to 'prove' fatherhood through DNA
testing. All fathers and children should be DNA tested at the
birth.
If a father's DNA doesn't match the child's, he shouldn't be on the
Birth Certificate, hence he shouldn't pay maintenance.
As it is, Birth Certificates just aren't worth the paper they're
printed on and shouldn't be a legal document.
Matt, unless I missed it, you should probably post an update,
with the news that the court DID release him after his Wednesday
hearing. I believe he had to demonstrate indigency though, and is
not yet absolved of his responsibility to obey the court order.
Unbelievable.
http://www.ajc.com/news/man-jailed-for-child-91830.html
roissy.wordpress.com writes a ton about this sort of thing, and
how the state is just screwing men left and right.
Mandatory Paternity Testing. Bring it up to women and they howl in
anger, because it would take away their ability to have kids by an
alpha male and abuse some poor sucker provider beta male into
providing for it.
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Yes, Mandatory Paternal AND Maternal Testing at birth sounds the
way forward using a simple swab system.
OK, at present, Y-DNA only proves 'father to son' but I understand
'father to daughter' is in the pipeline; in the meantime, at least
it would prove 50% of children.
mt-DNA proves mother to son/daughter and would prevent hospital
swaps, fraud etc.
In any case, governments spend $billions and force us all to have
digital passports and ID cards etc, yet Birth Certificates carry no
proof of identity.
Personally I think the debt should be shifted to the mother of the child. Since the child is over 18 their is no reason for her to not pay back the state for the two decades of support that was provided for her child.
I was duped into signing a parentasl acknowledgment form because I believed my girlfriend when she said the baby was mine. Back then, there were no dna tests. I have been paying child support and owe back support. The child is 18yrs old. I was denied a dna test by the courts when i contested. My driver's license was taken away. More than 50% of my pay is taken out to pay for a child that is most likely not even mine! I have not seen this child in years! New laws should be enacted to provide relief to non-biological fathers who have been duped by the system!
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