Radley Balko | March 12, 2009
Police shot an unarmed Grand Valley State student in the chest during a drug raid on his apartment last night.
The police haven't said what they were looking for, other than that the raid was part of a drug investigation. They also haven't said if they found any illicit drugs, or what caused the officer to discharge his weapon.
The 20-year-old man is in stable condition at a Grand Rapids, Michigan hospital.
A police spokesman told the Grand Rapid News that the shooting was an "isolated incident."
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The 20-year-old man is in stable condition at a Grand
Rapids, Michigan hospital.
Thank goodness
The phrase "isolated incident" has to be getting close to being self-parody at this point, right?
From the article:
The shooting caused police to lock down the building, but
residents were not evacuated and were never in danger, state police
Capt. Gary Gorski said
Yeah, the residents were never in any danger.. except for from the
police.. and by residents we mean anyone but the student we
shot.
A police spokesman told the Grand Rapid News that the
shooting was an "isolated incident."
That's because his apartment is in the woods. It's very isolated
out there.
The police haven't said what they were looking for, other than that the raid was part of a drug investigation. They also haven't said if they found any illicit drugs, or what caused the officer to discharge his weapon.
In other words, the bullshit machine at police headquarters is being primed to go at full blast, because they fucked up.
When they say "isolated incident" what is that supposed to mean,
exactly? That this incident does not connect to anything else? That
some police just happened to burst into his room and shoot
him?
Just call it for what it is: collateral damage in the drug war. Or
maybe this guy is a big, scary dealer who reached for his wallet at
a bad time - so this is the drug war working as intended. Hold a
press conference and honestly say "we shot a man because of the
drug war."
They slur their speech due to being partially deafened from shooting all of these unarmed citizens and pets. The phrase they're trying to use is "immolated dissident."
My sister's a GVSU student and she has lots of friends in that
apartment complex. She's been in class all day, so she hasn't let
me know if she knows the victim. Earlier, they weren't confirming
that it was an officer who shot him but suggesting that maybe he
had shot himself in desperation and/or incompetence.
Grand Rapids is a very "red" area of Michigan, full of
law-and-order Dutch Reform Christians. While more liberal than the
many nearby religious colleges, GVSU is still very reflective of
the local culture.
Case in point: I attended parent orientation for Sis. The campus
police officer came right out and told all the anxious parents that
there was absolutely no drug problem on campus. The students who
were buying/using drugs all had those problems before they came to
GV, she said, and they were usually buying the drugs at home on the
weekends.
Mom and I laughed our asses off privately afterward. It doesn't
seem so funny now.
"Isolated incident" means that this particular policemen has
never before been involved in a shooting connected with this
particular student. Any semblance of a pattern is purely
coincidental.
It's for the Children!
"(This is) an isolated incident," Gorski said. "(It) started
out as a drug investigation, a search warrant was conducted, which
resulted in a shot being fired."
In the lawyering world, using the passive voice is an explicit
attempt to downplay something you don't want highlighted.
It wasn't a "shot being fired", you numbfuck piece of shit...a
police officer SHOT A GUY. that's what happened. Be a man and own
the hell up. shots don't fire themselves, assclown.
I live 5 to 10 minutes away from Grand Valley. I actually took
some classes there in High School.
FYI, the paper you're citing is more likely the Grand Rapids
Press not the Grand Rapids News which is a paper I've
never heard of.
I'll have to ask my friends that go there if they heard anything
about this.
And yeah, Ottawa County is the reddest county you'll find in
Michigan. Loads of conservative, Dutch, Christian Reform
people.
Oh geebus. I can't believe the police actually quoted the phrase
"isolated indecent" to the press.
I use to live in Grand Rapids. I liked it very much. Grand Valley
is a nice little university with big aspirations.
If something like this was going to happen in a GR, I Would have
guessed Calvin College. You just know students of christian schools
are up to no good.
Butterworth is probably the best place to take a gunshot to the
chest. I hope he makes a full recovery.
Stay on it Radley.
A comic strip from the old school days shows a student a father
in a car:
Father: I hear there's a big drug problem on campus
Student: I can get whatever I want whenever I want it -- no
problem
Thought bubble to both father and son: This is going to be a long
weekend
Radley,
The linked article doesn't state that the student was unarmed. It
doesn't say he was either. Is unarmed an sssumption? If so it
probably is correct, but still ...
BTW, GVSU has an awesome Division II football team. They're perrenial contenders for the championship.
FYI, the paper you're citing is more likely the Grand Rapids
Press not the Grand Rapids News which is a paper I've never heard
of.
Good catch (how'd I miss it?). Radley is quoting from the "Grand
Rapids News" page of Mlive.com which is an anthology of West
Michigan newspapers. And yes, this story is from The Grand
Rapids Press.
I wonder if I get caught shooting someone else or doing drugs on
the street or something if I would get away with it without
punishment by telling the officer that it was an isolated
incident.
"There's no problem here, officer, it was an isolated incident"
Jesus, loupeznik, don't feed the troll now. It was all shrunken up and withered and just about ready to fall off.
J sub D - there's an update that the kid was not armed:
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/03/gvsu_student_shot_by_police_du.html
Radley is quoting from the "Grand Rapids News" page of
Mlive.com which is an anthology of West Michigan
newspapers.
Specifically, MLive covers all of Advance Publications' properties
throughout Michigan; the company
has several other, similar sites for its other clusters.
Michigan State Police officials told the Grand Rapids Press on Thursday the gunshot came from an Ottawa County sheriff's deputy who was placed on paid leave during the investigation.
Out of vacation time? Why just shoot an unarmed "civilian." Problem
solved.
An Ottawa County sheriff's deputy fired the shot that
injured a Grand Valley State University student Wednesday night at
his off-campus apartment, a top investigator confirmed this
morning.
The deputy was among at least five officers executing a search
warrant for drugs when he fired the shot through an open sliding
door at the rear of the apartment, said Capt. Gary Gorski, district
commander for the Michigan State Police.
GVSU is not in Ottawa county.
GVSU is not in Ottawa county.
It could be one of those multi-jurisdictional task force thingees.
Less accountability that way.
GVSU is not in Ottawa county.
Yes, the main campus in Allendale is, and the campus kops are
deputized sheriffs. The downtown campus is in Kent,
obviously.
Trying to get there when there was so much construction on the
expressway last year, I learned this the hard way when my map
featured just Kent Co.
It could be one of those multi-jurisdictional task force
thingees. Less accountability that way.
Apparently,
this is the "multijurisdictional drug enforcement task force" in
question.
A police spokesman told the Grand Rapid News that the
shooting was an "isolated incident."
Depends on that person's definition of "isolated," doesn't it?
Rare, uncommon or unusual for that area? Was it? Or does Radley (as
usual) indict all police enforcement activities by the actions of a
relative few?*
*Relax, knee-jerkers. It's a rhetorical question. Objective
observers know the answer.
Lola,
You are correct.
I think of it as a GR school but the main campus is out of town and
across the county line. My bad.
Does Lonewacko (sockpuppet) judge all Mexicans by the actions of
a relative few?
That, too, was a rhetorical question. Any almost every observer
here knows the answer.
The phrase "isolated incident" has to be getting close to
being self-parody at this point, right?
True, they've kind of become the "'Isolated incident dujour".
Glad he is in at least stable condition.
Depends on that person's definition of "isolated," doesn't it? Rare, uncommon or unusual for that area? Was it? Or does Radley (as usual) indict all police enforcement activities by the actions of a relative few?*
*Relax, knee-jerkers. It's a rhetorical question. Objective observers know the answer.
Sure, let's be fair. In 99.9 percent of the cases, the drug war
goes as planned, and people dealing in plants and intoxicants get
their lives ruined after trial, rather than ended by the police
themselves. All over the country police carry out no knock raids on
private residences to keep people from getting high, and old women,
dogs, and children are only shot occasionally. An acceptable price
to pay for the drug free society we all currently enjoy.
You are correct.
I think of it as a GR school but the main campus is out of town and
across the county line. My bad.
Don't beat yourself up about it-- I've got a lot of family there,
and I only just figured out this distinction. (My grandparents left
Grand Rapids proper and came east in 1956, mostly to deflect shame
when Grandpa married and knocked up a 17-year-old in the wrong
order.) Their relatives are spread all around that side of the
state, but the whole region is "Grand Rapids" to me 99% of the
time.
An acceptable price to pay for the drug free society we all
currently enjoy.
Not really acceptable, but perhaps worth it because the children at
this school deserve to learn free from fear in a drug free
environment.
"A drug free world, we can do it!"
Police
press conference on YouTube
The initial investigation indicates that there was "no
confrontation" when the cops entered.
I think every state should make an anarchy zone and send all drug users and liberals there. Let them see the ideal society they want in action.
I think every state should make an anarchy zone and send all
drug users and liberals there. Let them see the ideal society they
want in action.
*Removes Brett Stevens from invite list to Rainbow Puppy Island
warming party*
You're being redundant Brett. Drug users and liberals are the same group. And they won't be happy until the whole state is an anarchy zone and all God-fearing patriots like you are dead.
*Removes Brett Stevens from invite list to Rainbow Puppy
Island warming party*
But, will you still be inviting the similarly named
WSJ columnist? ;)
Drug users and liberals are the same group
Facts about FrBunny:
Voted for Bush twice, McConnell twice
NRA Life Member since 1988
Ran for local office as a Republican in 2008, got about
30% of general election votes
Gets high whenever opportunity presents itself
Your blanket statment is itchy.
Voted for Bush twice
I voted for Bush once, but that was in 1988. Surely the two you are
referring to are 1988 and 1992, right?
Not sure on McConnell, probably twice. 7 and 19 years ago, I
think.
robc,
Unfortunately I was one of the 40,000,000 culprits in both 2000 and
2004. I had my libertarian awakening mid-2008.
Name my penance and it will be done.
See, this is why I keep lots of dogs. With luck, when I'm raided
I'll be able to slip away unnoticed during the massacre. When the
cops shoot people, they're just acting out their frustration that
there are no dogs to shoot.
BTW, has "isolated incident" become a speechspeak word meaning
something entirely different, like "gay," so that when cop
spokesvermin use the phrase they really mean "happens all the damn
time"?
I'm all for Balko exposing the damage caused by the Drug War, but the phrase "another isolated incident" sounds like typical internet snark and usually dampens my interest in reading these pieces.
Shooting hippies is worse now that Obama is president.
Wait... is that a good thing? shit
L. Ron Hoover | March 12, 2009, 7:06pm | #
I'm all for Balko exposing the damage caused by the Drug War, but
the phrase "another isolated incident" sounds like typical internet
snark and usually dampens my interest in reading these
pieces.
L. Ron, thats the headline he's used for these "cop shoots unarmed
citizen with no record" for years now.
I know, person. I just think he should say "Another Drug War Caualty" instead, or something like that. I've read a lot of neocon blogs, so "another isolated incident" reminds me of "Religion of Peace strikes again" followed by an article about a Muslim attack. It's a hackneyed formula.
From a different article...
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=106687&catid=2
Henke says as officers were entering through a sliding glass
door in the rear of the apartment, one of the five officers shot
his gun and hit a 20-year old GVSU student Derek Copp in the chest.
Investigators are still trying to determine why.
"Our indication is there was no confrontation as they were
coming in. Preliminary investigation shows the subject was
not armed and that is all we know at this time," said
Henke
It'll be interesting to see where this goes, if even the police
aren't using the self-defense bit at this point.
Radley Balko, making it easier to generate page views with his
sensational and disproportionate obsession. Suckers.
Wait, where's the argument that any cop who transgresses is one cop
who transgresses too many?
Still looking for that utopian memo on my fax machine. Still
looking for that objective look at the overall (Radley, that means
the BIG PICTURE) examination of isolated incidents vs. the
necessary and relatively successful tension between law enforcement
and law-enforcement abuse.
Your tedious and demonstrable reliance on the sucker punch proves
that you don't have it in you to engage in discourse at a higher
level.
Missed makes it sound accidental. I'd say dodged, since clearly he was trying to miss the point.
"An acceptable price to pay for the drug free society we all
currently enjoy."
LOL, what drug free society? I live within a 1000 feet radius of no
less than 7 legal marihuana distribution points.
Wanna bet there's less drug related trouble here than over
there?
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