To Write a Joke After Obama is Barbaric

To Theodor Adorno, the writing of poetry after Auschwitz was barbarism. After 9/11, Graydon Carter, former editor of Spy magazine, declared an end to "the age of irony." As of noon today, after the inauguration of President Barack Obama—the "world's inauguration," according to the awful David Gergen—we have apparently entered the post-political humor era. Because there ain't nothing funny about Hope and Change.

First, the comedian and actor Chris Rock, speaking with CNN yesterday, made it clear that, if you aren't prone to verbal gaffes and you have a decent-looking first lady, you won't be a target. "It's like ‘Ooh, you're young and virile and you've got a beautiful wife and kids. You're the first African-American president.' You know, what do you say?" 

In an interview with The New York Times, comedian and screenwriter Dan Gregor worried about the future of his profession: "It's the death of comedy. We've entered the era of sincerity. That's unfortunate because sincerity is pretty bland. But if it makes the world better, I'll give up sarcasm."

Will Ferrell's writing partner Adam McKay, who directed the brilliantly funny film Anchorman, declared that one cannot make jokes at the expense of our 44th president because "Obama's an actual adult who knows how to work." At the Cato Institute's @Liberty blog, David Boaz points out that if our professional humorists cannot divine any Obama-related punch lines from the material he has already provided us, then perhaps "we need better humorists."

America, though, needs her comedians not only to provide laughter, but to offer heartfelt perorations on the state of the free market system. Take this brilliant assessment from Whoopi Goldberg, star of Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit: "I find it extraordinary as I listen to folks talk about the free-market system that they don't recognize that the free-market system is truly broken and beyond repair so that we have to start all over again."

Lest you dismiss such prescriptions as the mad rantings of America's worst ex-center square, Goldberg explains that she came to Keynesianism only after a friend told her of the financial crisis's rotten, free market roots. "It was explained to me; I don't think I could explain it to you righteously (sic), but it made sense when I heard the explanation. Basically, the bank is sitting because they're not below what their paperwork should say and they're not above what their paperwork should say - they're right at their paperwork mark and they don't want to move from that."

Take that, Milton Friedman.

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  • The Extispicator||

    I dunno, I usually trust whatever someone named Goldberg has to say about banking.

  • ||

    Take this brilliant assessment from Whoopi Goldberg, star of Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit: "I find it extraordinary as I listen to folks talk about the free-market system that they don't recognize that the free-market system is truly broken and beyond repair so that we have to start all over again."

    I thought the consensus was that we'd entered an age of no political humor...

  • Kyle Jordan||

    You know, I don't think I've ever witnessed such a mass showing of stupidity in my lifetime.

    There's almost literally a mental illness that Obama's Coming has brought out in people.

  • EJM||

    ...America's worst ex-center square...

    Worse than Joan Rivers?

  • Bingo||

    Basically, the bank is sitting because they're not below what their paperwork should say and they're not above what their paperwork should say - they're right at their paperwork mark and they don't want to move from that."


    Yeah that's why the banks are laying off hundreds of thousands of employees.

  • Bingo||

    Is it possible to invest in cognitive dissonance? It's increased the last 8 years and shows no sign of slowing down.

  • ||

    I'll turn to Whoopi for economics lessons when I start turning to Bernanke for one-liners...

  • ||

    Kyle --- I've had people angry with me, actually angry, for not being "hopeful."

    EJM --- Pipe down; Joan Rivers was a phenomenal center square.

  • ||

    Rivers and Goldberg both stink. Neither could hold a candle to Paul Lynde.

  • Stand-up Frank||

    "Because there ain't nothing funny about Hope and Change"

    A Christian, a Muslim, a Jew, and a Hindu - and a non-believer walk into a bar...

  • Peggy Joseph||

    Obama, please hurry and send the checks for my mortgage and gas bill. I've been sending my bills back with "HOPE AND CHANGE" written on them but the bank said they would foreclose if I don't send them some actual money soon. I think they must be Republicans or something.

    Whoopi Goldberg is totally right, those Republican banks are just full of stupid paperwork, and Obama's going to set them straight!

  • ||

    Basically, the bank is sitting because they're not below what their paperwork should say and they're not above what their paperwork should say - they're right at their paperwork mark and they don't want to move from that.

    (raises one eyebrow)

    I don't think I could explain it to you righteously .........

    I guess not.

  • ||

    To borrow from the craptastic "Jurassic Park," comedy, like life, will find a way. I mean, c'mon Chris Rock... don't sell out. Obama's young, virile and has a semi-attractive wife. He's "sincere." He's white-hot to a heat-seeking comedy missle. OK, maybe not "white" hot, per se, but you know what I mean.

    The real story is that a bunch of mainstream celebrity "comedy" types are scared shitless to saything remotely funny about Obama because 1) they don't want to lose any sweet-paying gigs; 2) they drank the Hollywood Kool Aid that conflates celebrity with actual knowledge about how shit really works.

    It's time like these when I want to rewrite my classic Nixon campaign button... "Bruce Now More than Ever."

  • ||

    There's almost literally a mental illness that Obama's Coming has brought out in people.

    We've gone from Bush Derangement Syndrome to Obama Retardation Syndrome. ORS.

    And I think it's perfectly fine that some comedians won't make fun of His Hopiness. The market will take care of them, since no one will want to watch them. Oh shit, they might get bailed out, though! Humor hazard!

  • ||

    I actually had someone try "We (liberals) represent the powerless and downtrodden, so making fun of us is making fun of them and forbidden. Non-liberals represent the rich and powerful, so making fun of them is OK, so the double standard in our favor is totally justified so shut up" once.

  • ||

    Rivers and Goldberg both stink. Neither could hold a candle to Paul Lynde.

    Early Joan Rivers--not talking about as center square here, just career--was very funny.

  • TallDave||

    Heh. Asking the media/entertainment industry to make Obama jokes is like asking the Catholic Church to make jokes about Jesus.

  • Paul||

    I'm telling ya, the entertainment biz is going to find some obscure republican congressman in a safe seat, and he'll be the source of the country's woes. I'm telling ya I'm tellin' ya. We've seen it before.

    Obama supporters will keep tellling us "it all could be possible, if it weren't for that meddling congressman __________"

  • smartass sob||

    (sigh) It's going to be a very long next four years.

  • Stand-up Frank||

    "Rivers and Goldberg both stink. Neither could hold a candle to Paul Lynde."

    Reminds me of Wayland Flowers and Madame.

    Madame: My boyfriend told me he wanted to make love to me in the worst way. And I said, are you crazy? Standing up in a hammock?

  • TallDave||

    Also, asking Whoopi Goldberg about economics is like... um... well, like asking Whoopi Goldberg about economics.

  • thoreau||

    Oh, they'll start making fun of him soon enough. Some comedians were complaining in 2000 that without Bill Clinton's womanizing it would be hard to make jokes about the President. Yet they managed. Yeah, yeah, for a month or so the comedians will say "Oh, no, we can't touch that! No way!" But pretty soon he'll come under fire for something or other, and then the comedians will be all over him. It's the nature of their business.

  • ||

    If Dave Chappelle still had a show I think he could do a pretty funny episode like the one where he spends the day with Wayne Brady. And he can play Obama, while Wayne Brady can play Dave or himself, or whatever combo floats your boat.

  • NotThatDavid||

    This is what happens when an entire profession has had their material spoon-fed to them for eight years. We could have elected Bozo The Clown, of the Big Floppy Shoes For Everyone party, and they'd say there's nothing to make fun of anymore.

  • Here To Help||

    So, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and Tony Rezko walk into a bar...

  • Stand-up Frank||

    "Oh, they'll start making fun of him soon enough."

    Jon Stewart has been making fun of Obama for months. Some of it's pretty harse, too.

  • ||

    I think political humorists have had a lot of easy material to work with for a while. They had 8 years of Bush, and before that a few years of post-Monica-scandal Clinton.

    Now, they are not being handed as much easy material, so it is more work to come up with jokes. They are like athletes who have only been practicing half as much as they should have for the last few years.

  • Stand-up Frank ||

    harse = harsh

  • Rocky||

    "Now, they are not being handed as much easy material, so it is more work to come up with jokes. They are like athletes who have only been practicing half as much as they should have for the last few years."

    EOM

  • ||

    I hope that like the post 9|11 humor moratorium that The Onion steps the fuck up and tosses a brick right through that window.

  • snicker||

    Just wait until he starts negotiating with North Korea and Iran. That should be ground zero for humor.

  • ||

    TallDave | January 20, 2009, 2:41pm | #

    Heh. Asking the media/entertainment industry to make Obama jokes is like asking the Catholic Church to make jokes about Jesus.


    Uh, yeah, that must be why there was no comedy written about Bill Clinton. What?

    Obama just isn't a ripe target for humor. There's the ears, and then what?

    The funniest thing about Barack Obama is Joe Biden.

  • Seriously?||

    I'm sure comics in all 57 states can find material.

    Of course, most would sooner disown their own grandmothers than mock the man they've promised to be an obedient servant to.

  • ||

    Now four years of "Bill sneaking around behind President Hillary's back" jokes would have been funny.

    "John Kerry flubs another line" jokes would have been funny.

    Heck, "Al Gore is boring and wooden" was a richer vein that Barack Obama.

  • ||

    The funniest thing about Barack Obama is Joe Biden.

    The funniest thing about Obama is his supporters. They're also creepy, but they're funny too.

  • ||

    So, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and Tony Rezko walk into a bar...

    Just wait until he starts negotiating with North Korea and Iran. That should be ground zero for humor.

    I'm sure comics in all 57 states can find material.

    Of course, most would sooner disown their own grandmothers than mock the man they've promised to be an obedient servant to.


    Anybody want to put their name on a comment arguing that these things are funny? Anyone?

  • ||

    Obama just isn't a ripe target for humor. There's the ears, and then what?



    The fucking sincerity. The ponderous, bombastic paean to hope and change. I'm sorry, but all of that cloyingly sweet rhetoric deserves to be utterly, thoroughly, and savagely mocked.

  • BDB||

    Come on joe, the 1/2 Hour News Hour was hilarious, right?

    *crickets*

  • BDB||

    Agreed, the funniest thing about Obama is the more rabid supporters, and that's going to be the angle.

  • The Angry Optimist||

    The funniest thing about Obama is his supporters.

    Did you all miss the South Park on this?

  • ||

    The funniest thing about Obama is his supporters.

    OK, there's that. Once again, the Onion leads the way:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive

    I still think that "War for the White House" intro, when the American planes bomb the White House, is hilarious.

  • Brian Sorgatz||

    Obama supporters will keep tellling us "it all could be possible, if it weren't for that meddling congressman __________"

    Presumably, this would be spoken by the Obama supporters dressed up as ghosts and monsters to keep hippies and talking dogs away from the stolen money they hid in the amusement park.

    Stop meddling with my mind by referencing Scooby-Doo!

  • Humor Bailout||

    Surely the $2T stimulus will contain numerous hilarious earmarks.

    And the criminal investigations after the money winds up in the pockets of Friends of Obama will be even funnier.

    Hey, what's the difference between Rod Blagoyevich and Barack Obama? About six months!

  • ||

    The fucking sincerity. The ponderous, bombastic paean to hope and change. I'm sorry, but all of that cloyingly sweet rhetoric deserves to be utterly, thoroughly, and savagely mocked.

    Totally agree. Not to mention, the fact that he sounds almost exactly like Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.

    I agree with those that say, give it time. Making fun of Bush and Clinton is like making money on internet stocks in 1996 - 1999, any moron with half a brain could do it. Obama requires a bit more thought than sex or moron jokes. Comedy abhors a vacuum and Obama will be made fun of, just like every other president.

  • ||

    I still think that "War for the White House" intro, when the American planes bomb the White House, is hilarious.



    It's also some of the best motion design I've ever seen. Top notch work.

  • ||

    The fucking sincerity. The ponderous, bombastic paean to hope and change. I'm sorry, but all of that cloyingly sweet rhetoric deserves to be utterly, thoroughly, and savagely mocked.

    Surely the $2T stimulus will contain numerous hilarious earmarks.


    See, the fact that you don't like something about a public figure isn't the same thing as it being funny.

  • Justin||

    BG:

    "Basically, the bank is sitting because they're not below what their paperwork should say and they're not above what their paperwork should say - they're right at their paperwork mark and they don't want to move from that.

    (raises one eyebrow)

    I don't think I could explain it to you righteously .........

    I guess not."

    Raising your eyebrow at Whoopie? You know she doesn't have any eyebrows, BG. That is just plain mean.

  • robc||

    The 57 states one is in the vein of the great humor of potatoe.

    Funny, not really. Standard "comedy" faire. Youbetcha.

    faire? fair? fare? What the hell word am I looking for. Help this poor engineer out.

  • ||

    Also, evidently Ted Kennedy has been hospitalized.

  • The Angry Optimist||

    fare, robc.

  • This Stuff Writes Itself||

    How dumb do you have to be to appoint a head of the IRS who not only "forgot" to pay taxes, but actually received reimbursment for taxes he didn't pay?

    What's next, his illegal immmigrant housecleaner for head of the INS? Osama bin Laden for head of the CIA?

  • robc||

    mediageek,

    Good punchline. What was the joke?

  • ||

    they're not below what their paperwork should say



    I'm sure she meant "paperweight". But it was still righteous.

    If by "free market" she meant "the economy in place in the U.S. in September 2007" then most free marketeers would agree with the statement "[that] system is truly broken and beyond repair so that we have to start all over again".

  • Warty||

    Ted Kennedy is dying? Now that's comedy.

  • ||

  • ||

    Should the magazine that employs the folks responsible for the "Friday Funnies" be chiming in on what is funny and what isn't?

  • ||

    This Stuff Writes Itself | January 20, 2009, 3:05pm | #

    How dumb do you have to be to appoint a head of the IRS who not only "forgot" to pay taxes, but actually received reimbursment for taxes he didn't pay?

    What's next, his illegal immmigrant housecleaner for head of the INS? Osama bin Laden for head of the CIA?


    I'll ask again: is there anyone willing to put their name on a comment who thinks this is funny?

  • robc||

    TAO,

    fare

    Thanks, I had a feeling that was it, but to me, a fare is what you pay the cabbie. I have no idea where faire came from. Firefox spellchecker didnt like it, so I figured it was wrong.

  • ||

    Good punchline. What was the joke?



    Upon being told this news by someone who's a rather self-serious Democrat, I opined as to what Mary Jo Kopechne's thoughts on the topic would be.

    No, it's not funny.
    But then I'm not a comedian.
    I'm a dick.

  • Taktix®||

    There may be a kernel of truth to this.

    After all, Bush's administration will be a hard act to follow...

  • ||

    Simpsons did it.

  • EJM||

    Reminds me of Wayland Flowers and Madame.

    Here's a clip of Wayland and Madame in the center square on the final NBC daytime HS.

    Separately, FWIW, I forgot that Jim J. Bullock did also occupy the center square for several weeks during the '86-89 version (when Joan was off)--although I never did actually see those episodes. (I did see several of the ones from May 1987 that had the Smothers Brothers in the center square for almost the entire month.)

  • BDB||

    Clinton was not only funny because of the sex. He was funny because he drove his enemies up the walls. He could do anything, up to and including getting a BJ in the Oval Office while talking on the phone to Congressional leaders about Bosnia, and his popularity would go up every time his opponents made hay of it. It was like Lucy and the football.

  • robc||

    joe,

    I'll ask again: is there anyone willing to put their name on a comment who thinks this is funny?

    Considering your well noted lack of sense of humor, I dont think you should be the one asking that.

  • ||

    This is silly. There's never been a public figure who we couldn't poke fun at. I think some people need to get the stars out of their eyes, then we'll hear less of this nonsense.

  • Too Easy||

    After those massive Obama tax hikes, I just hope I have enough change left to ride the bus!

  • sage||

    is there anyone willing to put their name on a comment who thinks this is funny?

    I liked it. So what?

  • Xeones||

    Cool it, guys. You're harshing joe's mellow.

  • robc||

    EJM,

    Isnt that Jm J. Bullock? No "i".

  • ||

    Obama just isn't a ripe target for humor. There's the ears, and then what?

    What?! His rhetoric is hilarious! It's all about context, I think. He's talking about the dawn of a New Age, leading us to Hope, and the great, coming Change... but he's barely post-pubescent, and nobody really knows what he intends to do in office. He's routinely compared to Lincoln/FDR/JFK, and for no tangible reason. It's like when a little girl dresses up in her mother's clothes, but, this time, she goes to work and people really think she's doing a great job, tell her as much, and give her a promotion! You don't think that's all funny?

    Well, maybe I just laugh to quell the ice-cold grip of fear…

  • Russ 2000||

    Only the first half of Anchorman was funny.

  • Gilbert Martin||

    "Ted Kennedy is dying? Now that's comedy."

    I don't know if his dying is but his entire life up to this point certainly has been.

  • Gilbert Martin||

    "What?! His rhetoric is hilarious! "

    Yeah - all that "heal the planet" and "lower the sea levels" nonsense, was pretty funny all right.

  • Taktix®||

    Only the first half of Anchorman every Judd Apatow/Will Ferrel movie was funny.

  • Xmas||

    Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd have both collapsed at the inaugural luncheon.

    COMEDY GOLD!!!

  • ||

    I just went to Whitehouse.gov, which now has a picture of the Big Giant Head that is our new president. According to the revised site, "Change Has Come to America." As I suspected, the change was this new guy taking over. That's it, which is why the change has already been accomplished today. I know that I feel different.

  • alan||

    SugarFree | January 20, 2009, 2:36pm | #
    Rivers and Goldberg both stink. Neither could hold a candle to Paul Lynde.


    I second that; you have to have massively big balls and a delusional mind to believe you can hold court with the center square after Lynde.

  • Not Even Trying||

    Q. Why won't Obama laugh at himself?
    A. Because it would be racist.

    Q. Why doesn't Barack drink Pepsi?
    A. He thinks that things go better with coke.

    Anagram: President Barack Hussein Obama = A Democrat speaks inane rubbish

  • The Angry Optimist||

    We had a pretty good run of about a week after the election where we said that the government is going to print Obamabucks that are blank: you just write in the amount for the bill and *poof*, no more debt.

    I could SNL doing something with that, especially because of these. And hey, it's not as if SNL is any good to begin with.

  • Comedy about Obama||

    Obama is funny because he has the aura of a "life actualizing guru" about him. Also, as
    Dana Carvey pointed out, he looks like a cross between Urkel and the Mad Magazine guy. He apparently started insisting people call him "Barack" in college, and that's funny; did he start wearing a dashiki too? (There's a Simpsons gag where, in an 80's flashback, Dr. Hibbert is decked out in full African garb.)

    His fans are also hilarious, both on the street and in the media.

    Oh, I get a shiver up my leg just contemplating the comedic opportunities. What about the predictable cadence of his speeches? Since they are often policy prescription laundry lists, the Elevated Cadence--no, I'm not LoneWacko--creates a bathetic effect. Perhaps he could give a Big Speech in Elevated Tones to Sasha and Malika about quotidian matters, such as taking care of the dog.

    This stuff writes itself. Comedians who complain there's nothing to work with are either lazy, stupid, ideologically blinkered, or some combination of the above.

  • ||

    So, Ted Kennedy walks out of a bar...

    Someone grab his keys!!!

  • Stephen B||

    There's almost literally a mental illness that Obama's Coming has brought out in people.

    It's pretty similar to the Diana hysteria we had here in Britain in 1997. But, despite the slightly lonely feeling at the time, you do get to laugh at the silliness of people indulging in it and feeling smug when they all cotton on to the fact that they've been really silly but can't admit it.


  • Taktix®||

    I could SNL doing something with that, especially because of these. And hey, it's not as if SNL is any good to begin with.

    SNL hasn't been funny since the Carter administration...

  • ||

    "Cool it, guys. You're harshing joe's mellow."

    I don't think that's going to happen today.

  • Jerry||

    Comedians not knowing how to make jokes about Obama says a lot about the current state of comedy. But I still have some hope for Stephen Colbert.

  • EJM||

    EJM,

    Isnt that Jm J. Bullock? No "i".


    At that time, he was indeed still going by "JM J." (and, yes, several contestants did refer to him as "J-M-J Bullock"); however, he's apparently going by "Jim J." now.

  • lunchstealer||

    Will Ferrell's writing partner Adam McKay, who directed the brilliantly funny film Anchorman, declared



    Hang on, let me get a glass of water.

    /* does a spit-take

    Brilliantly funny film what?

  • Gilbert Martin||

    Here's another howler:

    The NASDAQ and S&P 500 averages are now down over 5% on the day.

    Now that's real change we can believe in!

  • The Angry Optimist||

    I was just talking to a friend of mine who used to work on Wall Street, and he couldn't give me a satisfactory answer to this question:

    "Today, the stock market dropped due to the inauguration (supposedly) --- how is that possible? I mean, it's not as if the inauguration is a surprise, is it? Like, did Wall Street just think that January 20th would never come?"

  • ||

    What they really mean is: "I support Obama and have difficulty not taking him seriously. Therefore, I can't think of anything funny to say."

  • ||

    I'd like to see a sketch with Obama making change-you-can-believe-in speeches in an every-day situation, like asking his kids to take out the garbage. His pomposity and self-importance is low-hanging fruit. Even Bush lacked those bad qualities. For good reason, but vices are vices.

  • Mary Jo Kopechne||

    "Also, evidently Ted Kennedy has been hospitalized."

    Must be a case of DCS (Delayed Chappaquiddick Syndrome)

  • ||

    What's up with the first sentence of the article? Incoherent and illiterate even more so than the usual "web journalism" we suffer through.

    no hugs for thugs,
    Shirley Knott
    just curious why anyone would quote that vicious orifice Adorno on any topic whatsoever...

  • ||

    I despise Kennedy, but I'm not sure I'm ready to wish him dead. Out of Congress would suffice.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Should the magazine that employs the folks responsible for the "Friday Funnies" be chiming in on what is funny and what isn't?

    QFT.

    Comedy, like life will find a way...I agree (despite the lack of funny demonstrated above).

    Natural selection will eventually cull the failed mutations:
    http://bastisays.info/2009/01/obama-jokes-one-liners/

    http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny

  • Hillary Kitten||

    Barack Obama, at a recent rural elementary school assembly in East Texas , asked the audience for total quiet. Then, in the silence, he started to slowly clap his hands once every few seconds, holding the audience in total silence..

    Then Obama said into the microphone, "Children, uh, every time I, uh, clap my hands together, a, uh, child in America dies from, uh, gun violence."

    Little Richard Earl, with a proud East Texas drawl, pierced the quiet and said, '' Well, dummy, stop clapping!"

    Tip o'the hat to Jimmy

    (Believe it or not, variations of this Obama joke have actually been analyzed by Snopes.com in one of its "urban legend" postings. How weird is that? See http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bono.asp)

  • Russ 2000||

    Comedians who complain there's nothing to work with

    They aren't saying there's nothing to work with, they're saying it would be wrong to make fun of him, like conservatives did when Bush was elected or when Muhammad cartoons were all the rage. Same shit, different day.

  • Jerry||

    I do find The Daily Show lacking of late. It just doesn't have an edge anymore.

  • Russ 2000||

    but I'm not sure I'm ready to wish him dead. Out of Congress would suffice.

    But we would have to pry his Congressional seat from his cold, dead fingers. Dying is the only way Taxachusetts voters would let him leave.

  • John Hinkley||

    "This is silly. There's never been a public figure who we couldn't poke fun at."

    You can't make fun of Former Reagan Press Secretary James Brady.

  • Taktix®||

    Here's another howler:

    The NASDAQ and S&P 500 averages are now down over 5% on the day.

    Now that's real change we can believe in!


    Here's another:

    People still think the stock indices are valid measures of the state of the economy! LOL!!!!11!!1!!

  • Kent Brockman||

    I, for one, welcome our new overlord, and the beefcake-beach shots of his fine, brown sculpted biceps and perky, mulatto nipples ...

  • Kolohe||

    "Today, the stock market dropped due to the inauguration (supposedly) --- how is that possible? I mean, it's not as if the inauguration is a surprise, is it? Like, did Wall Street just think that January 20th would never come?"

    Since Roberts flubbed the oath, Joe Biden is actually president.

  • ||

    robc,

    Considering your well noted lack of sense of humor

    You keep saying this.

    "joe wins the thread" gets more hits on the search feature than "robc wins the thread."

    Just sayin'.

  • Abra Cadaver||

    "Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd have both collapsed at the inaugural luncheon.

    COMEDY GOLD!!!"

    Absolutely!

  • ||

    joe,

    robc wins the thread.

  • ||

  • sage||

    "Also, evidently Ted Kennedy has been hospitalized."

    Leave it to a Kennedy to steal the spotlight.

  • ||

    Yeah, well, joe wins the thread. Still ahead.

  • Invisible Finger||

    "joe wins the thread" gets more hits on the search feature than "robc wins the thread."

    joe's self-absorption continues unabated.

  • ||

    robc wins the thread.
    robc wins the thread.
    robc wins the thread.
    robc wins the thread.

  • ||

    There have been more geuninely funny jokes on this thread told about Ted Kennedy having a seizure from his brain tumor (!) than about Barack Obama.

    Think about that.

    But I guess that's just my Democratic, Massachusetts partisanship talking, and Obama really is a comedy goldmine. Oh, wait...

  • ||

    joe's self-absorption continues unabated.,/i>

    joe didn't bring up the subject. Oddly enough, other people's joe obsorbtion doesn't warrant mention.

  • ||

    robc,

    Considering your well noted lack of sense of humor

    You keep saying this.

    "joe wins the thread" gets more hits on the search feature than "robc wins the thread."

    Just sayin'.


    And "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" is the number one movie in America. Your Point?

  • I\'ll Be Here All Week||

    So Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, and Bill Ayers walk into a bar. The bartender says "What'll it be?"

    Wright says "I'll have a free drink, as reparations for the 200 years of white oppression! And don't try putting any AIDS in my drink, either!"

    The bartender rolls his eyes and turns to Rezko. "How about you, fella?"

    Rezko replies, "Tell you what buddy, give me a free drink and the health inspector will never bother you again!"

    The bartender shakes his head in digust and turns to Ayers. "I suppose you want a handout too?"

    Ayers shakes his head. "No, I just came in to use the bathroom."

  • Hogan||

    His ears aren't funny. His following and epic cadences are funny when they're paired with such farcically airy sentiments as "yes we can," etc... The cheering crowds when he says "p and q!" cheering just as wildly when he comes out to say "not p and q!" are funny. Hope and faith in politicians will always be funny because it relies on the dumbest parts of everyone's brains and is always a great setup for a comical let down. Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds are funny. Self-aggrandizing narcissists are funny. Give it some time and the jokes will come.

  • ||

    *clap clap clap clap clap clap clap*

    FINALLY, a funny Obama joke. Nicely done.

  • ||

    joe,

    In all seriousness, I think you're taking Obama too seriously. I find him eminently mockable, and I'm only a wishy-washy libertarian. Imagine what someone even less enchanted with Obama thinks! Besides, anything can be made funny. Like HTML tags and the closing thereof.

    I think I jumped the gun assuming that Biden made any kind of speech. That sucks, because I was planning to rip it off for Urkoboldian purposes. Which, of course, would be apropos.

  • Jennifer||

    I doubt Obama will give us anything with the comic brilliance of "Four ounces of shampoo on an airplane will help terrorists bring it down, but three ounces is okey-dokey," but he'll still provide plenty of comic fodder. Just give hiim time. Actually, just wait until he gives his first anti-drug lecture. "Don't ever use cocaine, people! I did back in the day, and look how horribly I turned out!"

  • Neu Mejican||

    The best I could find on short notice:

    Obama, McCain and All Hillary Die And Go To Heaven

    John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all die and go to heaven. God looks down from his throne and asks McCain, "Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?"

    McCain takes a breath and then replies, "Well, I think so because I was a great leader and tried to follow the words in your great book." God looks down and then says, "You can sit to my left side."

    So, McCain takes his seat and then God asks the same question to Hillary, "Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?" Hillary thinks for a second and then replies, "I think so because I have been fighting for the rights of so many people for so long." God again looks down and this time says, "You can sit to my right side."

    Finally God turns to Barack Obama and asks, "Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?"
    Obama smiled and replied, "I think you're in my seat."
    A Closing Note From Jay Leno

    "Barack Obama gave a big speech on race, and there was one heckler in the audience, kept screaming crazy stuff the whole time. Turns out it was his pastor."

  • The Brothers Lehman||

    "Today, the stock market dropped due to the inauguration (supposedly) --- how is that possible? I mean, it's not as if the inauguration is a surprise, is it? Like, did Wall Street just think that January 20th would never come?"

    Why on earth do people think the president has any effect on the economy?

    Banks and profit worries send stocks to session lows:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090120/bs_nm/us_markets_stocks_9

  • ||

    Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd have both collapsed at the inaugural luncheon.

    COMEDY GOLD!!!


    I didn't think this was true, but it is! Hilarious!

    I'd like to see a sketch with Obama making change-you-can-believe-in speeches in an every-day situation, like asking his kids to take out the garbage. His pomposity and self-importance is low-hanging fruit.

    Right after Obama was looking like he could win the primary, my friend and I started doing movie quotes in "Obama-speak". It's totally ripe for comedy.

  • The Angry Optimist||

    I doubt Obama will give us anything with the comic brilliance of "Four ounces of shampoo on an airplane will help terrorists bring it down, but three ounces is okey-dokey,"

    You mean, he's said that he is going to change this policy?

    Pfft. I doubt that very much.

  • phalkor ||

    how the fuck do you win a thread? oh I forgot H&R is a place for kicking ass and such, right?

    Oh man, you want funny, here yah go

    obamasavestheworld.ytmnd.com

  • ||

    Pro Lib,

    I find him eminently mockable Then why does the SNL Obama character suck so much? Ford, Carter, Reagan, Poppy, Clinton, Gore, Dole (Grr, Bob Dole doesn't approve of that at all. Heh heh heh) (One word: lockbox), and Dubya all had hilarious impersonations before they ever took office. SNL has been trying with Obama, and it just isn't working, in the year that they has such awesome Palin and Hillary impersonations.

    Hell, the Biden character is funnier than the Obama character.

  • The Angry Optimist||

    Why on earth do people think the president has any effect on the economy?

    Uhh, "any"? Did you really mean to say "any" there?

    Only a functionally retarded chimpanzee would think the President has *no* effect on the economy.

  • dhex||

    "You can't make fun of Former Reagan Press Secretary James Brady."

    hmm lemme try:

    Q: Why can't you take Former Reagan Press Secretary James Brady to the zoo?

    A: They're trying to wean the lions off of meals on wheels.

    hmm, you may have a point.

  • robc||

    Just sayin'.

    You post a lot more than I do. Winning a thread isnt always a sign of humor either.

  • Gilbert Martin||

    "Obama, please hurry and send the checks for my mortgage and gas bill. I've been sending my bills back with "HOPE AND CHANGE" written on them but the bank said they would foreclose if I don't send them some actual money soon. I think they must be Republicans or something."

    Behold - the prime example of Obama's "new era of responsibility"!

  • Threadwinner!||

    #1189369 wins the thread. May it bring you as much happiness as it does joe.

  • robc||

    You keep saying this.

    I only say it because I will make a humorous remark that you mistake for a serious one. Stop doing that and I will stop saying it.

  • ||

    He apparently started insisting people call him "Barack" in college, and that's funny;

    Why is it funny, isn't that his name? My girlfriend, after going by "Jenny", all through high school went only by "Jen" or "Jennifer" starting in college. It's pretty common for people to redefine themselves and what they want people to call them after they start college.

    Today, the stock market dropped due to the inauguration (supposedly) --- how is that possible? I mean, it's not as if the inauguration is a surprise, is it? Like, did Wall Street just think that January 20th would never come?

    My explanation, as a former trader, is that the person that blamed it on the inauguration is full of shit. My guess is that stocks fell because we're in earnings season and there haven't been many positive signs among corporate earnings.

  • ||

    Winning a thread isnt always a sign of humor either.

    I might say the same thing. In your place.

  • ||

    I only say it because I will make a humorous remark that you mistake for a serious one.

    Hmmmmmm...people don't get your jokes. Must be their fault.

  • Abra Cadaver||

    "Ayers shakes his head. "No, I just came in to use the bathroom.""

    Love it!

  • phalkor ||

    Yeah, earnings season is the right answer. I find it funny how so many people were calling for an inagural "Obama bump", we've got a race to the bottom on our hands. I just hope the market finds the bottom soon.

  • ||

    From what I have seen, Keegan-Michael Key's Obama on MadTV has been very good. I've been a little lax in following them this season, so I'm not sure how the skits have been overall, but I guess I'll TiVo it and find out. They don't pull punches there.

  • Ska||

    The cheering crowds when he says "p and q!" cheering just as wildly when he comes out to say "not p and q!" are funny. Hope and faith in politicians will always be funny because it relies on the dumbest parts of everyone's brains

    This made me immediately think of when Homer Simpson is trying to have the crayon jammed back into his brain and he starts chanting "De-fense! De-fense!"

    Lisa: Well, maybe not that dumb.

  • Neu Mejican||

    joe | January 20, 2009, 3:48pm | #
    Winning a thread isnt always a sign of humor either.

    I might say the same thing. In your place.


    Nothing less funny than a man two men explaining how funny he is they are.

    Truly.

  • robc||

    joe,

    Hmmmmmm...people don't get your jokes. Must be their fault.

    People get my jokes. You dont.

  • sage||

    I might say the same thing. In your place.

    I know you are but what am I?

    Do I win?

  • ||

    Neu, I'd say that counting your "thread wins" as opposed to someone else's is very funny.

  • robc||

    Nothing less funny than two men explaining how funny they are.

    Truly.


    I agree. I will shut up about it now. Until the next time joe takes an ironic or sarcastic comment of mine seriously.

  • The Brothers Lehman||

    "Only a functionally retarded chimpanzee would think the President has *no* effect on the economy."

    Up yours, asshole.

  • The Angry Optimist||

    My explanation, as a former trader, is that the person that blamed it on the inauguration is full of shit. My guess is that stocks fell because we're in earnings season and there haven't been many positive signs among corporate earnings.

    Well, he never said that, it just seems to be the implication. I mean, it really is right at noon that the slide started (although the morning opened poorly as well)...

    All a coincidence? I have to think that at least a little of it is driven by dumb traders who are actually emotional about today....but maybe not.

  • Jennifer||

    I think I jumped the gun assuming that Biden made any kind of speech. That sucks, because I was planning to rip it off for Urkoboldian purposes.

    But who did Biden rip it off from for political purposes?

    Personally, I think having a plagiarist one heartbeat away from the White House is awesome. Especially considering how abysmal were the results when Biden used his own words, like the ones talking about how Obama's so wonderfully clean and articulate. Better to steal someone else's words than use your own stupid ones. "But soft! What light through yonder window breaks? It is the east, and Obama is the sun!"

  • robc||

    Epi,

    I'd say that counting your "thread wins" as opposed to someone else's is very funny.

    That is funny in a different way.

  • ||

    Neu, I'd say that counting your "thread wins" as opposed to someone else's is very funny.

    Funnier than the Changelings?

  • Neu Mejican||

    Epi,

    You must be one of those people who enjoy the sad clowns.

    http://www.k1der.net/modules/blogs/public/maxi/images/dessin/sad-clown.jpg

  • The Angry Optimist||

    Up yours, asshole.

    A spirited and eloquent rejoinder, sir!

  • phalkor ||

    joe, you are awesome!


    Can I be your friend?
    I just want to hang out with you.
    Could I, like do your laundry or something?
    Someday I wanna win threads just like you!

  • Neu Mejican||

    This one got a chuckle from me.

    http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/m/G/2/obama-46-virgin.jpg

  • The Angry Optimist||

    ah, joe, your search term response is a Pyrrhic victory.

  • ||

    Jennifer,

    Plagiarizing Biden is just like plagiarizing someone else altogether. I like to imagine that if Biden did have an inaugural address, it would have been a straight translation of Pericles' Funeral Oration (which Lincoln ripped off in part for the Gettysburg Address).

    NM,

    That's funny. See, joe?

  • ||

    TAO,

    Looking at the chart, you could fit a pretty constant downward sloping line from 10 AM on. There was the steep drop at open and then the somewhat consistent drop (with sawteeth) after that. Hell, the S&P was already down 20 at noon.

  • Neu Mejican||

    This one seems to target the H&R crowd directly.

    Audience awareness is the key to good humor...

    http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/h/Q/2/obama-borg.jpg

  • ||

    "I find it extraordinary as I listen to folks talk about the free-market system that they don't recognize that the free-market system is truly broken and beyond repair so that we have to start all over again."

    "right after I negotiate and sing sign my new 10 year contract" - Woopie Goldberg

  • sage||

    Up yours, asshole.

    Oh yeah, NOW we're gettin' funny Ova' hear!

  • ||

    Whoopi is at her funniest when trying to explain economics.

  • ||

    That is funny in a different way.

    But still funny!

    Funnier than the Changelings?

    Yes, and The Frantics too!

    You must be one of those people who enjoy the sad clowns.

    I enjoy many people's sadness. Particularly the half of Kirk when he got split that was all mopey and introspective. Pussy!

  • Jeff||

    Where am I? Is this a blog?

  • Neu Mejican||

    Epi...

    I must be a pre-cog...see my last post.

  • The Angry Optimist||

    I noticed that 10AM looked like when the slide was on. I guess I was just noting the fall, noting that there is a correlation and asking if it's overstating one's case to say there is at least partial causation.

    Since no one ever went broke underestimating stupidity, I think that there *were* some stockholders who exerted additional pressure to sell in emotional response to today.

    That, of course, is a far cry from the ridiculous notion that the market rationally responded to the inauguration by demonstrating its displeasure with a rumored-to-be unfriendly new President, which is what the Right argues.

  • Hogan||

    Whoopi is at her funniest when trying to explain economics.

    Or when she asked McCain on the view if appointing strict constructionists to the SCOTUS would mean that she would be "enslaved again". Sadly, I believe his response was "That's a good point!"

  • ||

    Oh, good, we haven't had a thread devoted to talking about me for a long time.

    Awesome, robc. Atta boy.

  • ||

    joe and robc both get a trophy and ice cream after the game. No more keeping score and all, it's the 21st Century, folks!

  • ||

    Neu,

    I'm pretty sure Elemenope is the one with the crying clown fetish, but the post where I worked it all seems to have gone down the memory hole.

  • ||

    I think it's fair to say that some uncertainty and fear about what a Democratic government might do in the coming year--raise taxes, screw more with the money supply, bail out Iceland--has been part of the general decline in the market, but attributing today's decline to Obama seems a stretch. It's not like we didn't know that he was going to be inaugurated today weeks ago. And I only say "Democratic" above in the sense of the last GOP fingers leaving the baton, not to absolve the exiting administration of blame for the bailout panic-fest.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Sugarfree,

    Is this LMNOP porn then?

    http://www.foolishpeople.com/photos/uncategorized/photo00_4.jpg

  • Warty||

    Jesus Christ, joe, shut the fuck up. No one cares about how you're better than everyone else.

  • ||

    Obama is going to get funnier... you just have to give him some time. What's going to really amuse is when his rabid followers realize he can't walk on a light mist and then turn on him like rabid dogs. Family dysfunction is funny, and the liberal family is deeply dysfunctional. Lest you think me biased, so is the conservative family.

    Here's the reality pill of the day for you, Joe. Obama is not bigger than real life. We're all just smaller than real life. We'll eventually shrink Obama... and that's not a bad thing. In a the land of the tiny, one big ass giant makes me very nervous.

  • *||

    Only a functionally retarded chimpanzee would think the President has *no* effect on the economy.

    The last President was a functionally retarded chimpanzee, but we gots us a smart monkey for President now.

  • ||

    So nobody has checked out this Obama joke page:

    http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/

    Content note: jokes not actually funny.

  • Hillary Kitten||

    President Obama decided to do one of his public addresses against the backdrop of an American farm, but the ceremony couldn't get started because of all the flies buzzing around his head. Obama demanded to know why the flies wouldn't leave, so the farmer explained to him, "Well, those are called circle flies. They always circle around the back end of horses." Obama angrily replied, "Hey, are you saying that I'm a horse's ass?" The farmer answered, "No Sir, Mister President. I would never call someone a horse's ass. It's hard to fool them flies though."

  • Invisible Finger||

    I doubt Obama will give us anything with the comic brilliance of "Four ounces of shampoo on an airplane will help terrorists bring it down, but three ounces is okey-dokey,"
    .


    I think "We'll SPEND our way out of debt!" comes pretty close.

  • ||

    Neu,

    Close. It might get him aroused, but if she was crying it would really put him "over the top" so to speak. He's a sick bastard.

  • ||

    I must be a pre-cog...see my last post.

    How dare you conflate TOS with TNG.

  • Cliff||

    "Plagiarizing Biden is just like plagiarizing someone else altogether. I like to imagine that if Biden did have an inaugural address, it would have been a straight translation of Pericles' Funeral Oration (which Lincoln ripped off in part for the Gettysburg Address)."

    As they say, good writers borrow. Great writers steal.

  • Warty||

    The last President was a functionally retarded chimpanzee, but we gots us a smart monkey for President now.

    Will he dance for bananas? How about watermelons?

  • ||

    Warty,

    As opposed to the millions of people who eagerly scan these threads for your opinion of me, I suppose.

    Funny how people get angry about discussion of me AS SOON AS I RESPOND to discussion of me, and not a moment before.

  • ||

    Here's the reality pill of the day for you, Joe. Obama is not bigger than real life.

    Obviously not. No one even bought him a blimp.

  • Nihixul||

    Actually, Chris Rock then went on to say that Obama will unavoidably have a slip-up at some point, and that will make it easier for a comedian to make such jokes. (Therefore, Rock is *not* consigning himself and other comedians to humorless sincerity during the "age of Obama".) Quoting,

    CNN: As time goes on do you think it will get easier?

    Rock: Of course, as time goes on. At some point he's going to -- there's always slip-ups. No one can survive that level of scrutiny without occasionally making it easy for a comedian.

  • ||

    I think it's fair to say that some uncertainty and fear about what a Democratic government might do in the coming year--raise taxes, screw more with the money supply, bail out Iceland--has been part of the general decline in the market

    The market is up since it hit bottom after the Lehman collapse.

  • ||

    Sadly, I believe his response was "That's a good point!"

    I wanted to cry when he said that.

  • ||

    I don't know about Lincoln being a great writer (or president, for that matter), but he stole a good one when he reached into Pericles' dead pocket.

    Up? Strange way to describe what looks to me like down. Again, I don't think one can reasonably associate this with Obama, but the market is way down today.

  • ||

    Funny how people get angry about discussion of me AS SOON AS I RESPOND to discussion of me, and not a moment before.

    No one is angry, joe. I am amused, as is Neu, Warty seems exasperated, and I'm sure others are bored. But not angry.

  • ||

    "Obviously not. No one even bought him a blimp."

    I guess it's a racial thing.

  • ||

    Pro Lib,

    It's down TODAY. It's up since it bottomed out after the Lehman collapse - a time frame during which Obama was the favorite to win the election, and then the PEOTUS.

  • The Angry Optimist||

    I, too, am amused at the "I have more 'wins the thread' phrases" response.

    I mean, man, you should have just let that go.

  • Sound Like Anyone You Know?||

    Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy."

    The narcissist is described as turning inward for gratification rather than depending on others and as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power and prestige. Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linked to self-centeredness.

    DSM criteria

    A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

    1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
    2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
    3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
    4. requires excessive admiration
    5. has a sense of entitlement
    6. is interpersonally exploitative
    7. lacks empathy
    8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
    9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

  • ||

    me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me.

    But enough about me. TAO, what do you think about my sense of humor?

  • Neu Mejican||

    Epi,

    How dare you conflate TOS with TNG.

    In never confuse TOS(s) with T(a)NG.

    Never.

  • ||

    1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
    2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
    3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
    4. requires excessive admiration
    5. has a sense of entitlement
    6. is interpersonally exploitative
    7. lacks empathy
    8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
    9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


    Holy crap, they made libertarianism into a mental disorder!

  • ||

    Well that was some perfect timing on the above posts.

  • ||

    Lehman who? That's ancient news. The market dropped and continued its erratic walk due to the government freaking out and demanding emergency powers. Some anticipation that a Democratic president and Congress might do even more of the same has likely helped push that downwards a bit more. However, most investors are going to play wait and see and not just guess. The signs of what is to come should be evident in the next few months, if not earlier.

  • smartass sob||

    DSM criteria

    A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

    1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
    2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
    3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
    4. requires excessive admiration
    5. has a sense of entitlement
    6. is interpersonally exploitative
    7. lacks empathy
    8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
    9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


    Hell. That sounds like every politician who ever lived!

  • Neu Mejican||

    Holy crap, they made libertarianism into a mental disorder!

    If true that might explain Szasz.

  • The Angry Optimist||

    But enough about me. TAO, what do you think about my sense of humor?

    Huh? I'm not ragging you (well, maybe a little)...I'm just advising you that you could have responded much better, because saying "I 'win more threads' than you, based on...search results!" is a douchey move.

    Hey, it's just advice. you can take it or leave...I don't give a shit.

  • ||

    Isn't it time for someone to yell, "Donderoooooo"?

  • MAX HATS||

    Lehman who? That's ancient news. The market dropped and continued its erratic walk due to the government freaking out and demanding emergency powers.



    Wow, you can actually read the market's mind! You must be super-rich then, always one step ahead like that.


    Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine when people say X fluctuation in the market on day Y was because of event Z.

  • ||

    If true that might explain Szasz.

    Heh.

  • ||

    Oh, and insofar as arrogance, self importance, sense of entitlement, etc., I have a tough time telling the libertarian from the New Urbanists.

  • ||

    I'm using hindsight, not foresight. Uncertainty about the nature of certain massive government intervention is a obvious negative factor. Most of the important failures occurred without the market freaking out completely.

  • Former Poster||

    Every once in awhile I visit these boards to see if anything's changed. Nope, same people with too much time on their hands engaging in slappy-slap fights. Same people desperate to portray themselves as cool to other people they'll never meet. Same people so full of rage that they can't contain their glee at the illness or death of a public figure.

    Another day, same pathos.

  • ||

    Lehman who? That's ancient news. It's no more ancient than the big drop in the stock market, which you don't seem to consider to be ancient news.

    The market dropped and continued its erratic walk due to the government freaking out and demanding emergency powers.

    1. Did you mean to write that the market only started dropping after"the government freaked out and demanded emergency powers," and that it was humming along nicely when the Bush administration began banging the drum for the bailout?

    2. Your theorizing that the big decline on Wall Street was caused by the government talking about pumping several hundred billion dollars into Wall Street?

  • ||

    Intelligent, sincere self-deprecating people just aren't very funny - see for example Tony Blair. And Obama and Blair are both very careful not to be too earnest - which is usually where most liberals make themselves look ridiculous (see Al Gore), or too pompous (see John Kerry or Biden). Parodies of Blair have never been as funny as parodies of Major or Thatcher, and Obama caricaturists are just going to have a hard time. You can dislike these sorts of people, you can distrust them, but they're hard to mock effectively. At least Blair and Obama both have big ears...

  • ||

    joe,

    I think my explanation makes more sense than yours.

  • ||

    SNL hasn't been funny since the Carter administration...



    Yeah...but when I watch those episodes now when I'm sober, I can't figure out what the fuck I thought was funny.

    It's amazing what you'll laugh at when you're high.

  • Neu Mejican||

    From the LA TIMES,

    He's effete. He's well-dressed. He eats arugula -- which he buys at Whole Foods. He mocks those who use guns. He is, as we mentioned, quite thin. He may only be half-black, but he's three-quarters gay.

  • ||

    Gosh, NM, you're right. He's a half-black Alan Alda.

  • Sound Like Anyone You Know?||

    joe | December 11, 2008, 7:36pm | #
    No, I'm frequently complimented as being one of the more intelligent commenters here, unlike you.



    1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
    Check

    2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
    Check

    3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
    Check

    4. requires excessive admiration
    Check

    5. has a sense of entitlement
    Check

    6. is interpersonally exploitative

    7. lacks empathy

    8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
    Check

    9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
    Check


    Seven out of nine. Impressive. But don't judge him on his sickness. Pity him instead.

  • ||

    Oh, good, more people talking about me.

    Awesome. This thread was starting to revert to discussion of Barack Obama, the economy, and boring shit like that.

    Kiss kiss, fan club.

  • ||

    Pro Lib,

    You think "the market hates Democrats and bailouts" makes more sense than "the collapse of major players on Wall Street, and the recession, caused the market to fall?"

  • Neu Mejican in a Klan Hat||

    Pro Lib,

    Fuckin' A...

    Wouldn't he be the "half-white" Alan Alda*?


    *Alda is half-Irish, half-Italian...so...

  • ||

    You think "the market hates Democrats and bailouts" makes more sense than "the collapse of major players on Wall Street, and the recession, caused the market to fall?"

    How about option number three: "Democrats coerced banks and encouraged poor people into irresponsible lending/borrowing on a mass, catastrophic scale?"

  • ||

    How about option number three: "Democrats coerced banks and encouraged poor people into irresponsible lending/borrowing on a mass, catastrophic scale?"

    Also... Bush is retarded.

  • ||

    Gosh, NM, you're right. He's a half-black Alan Alda.

    Now that's funny.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Solana,

    Coerced?

    I would buy "enticed," perhaps (with the help of the Republicans), but "coerced" seems a bit strong.

  • ||

    The various failures and the recession had largely been anticipated. Large but volatile downward market moves are usually based on fear and uncertainty--what's going to happen next? We witnessed some of that when the next big failure was the worry du jour, but the magnitude and the uncertain nature of the government intervention created a panic on a much greater scale that we haven't recovered from yet.

    Even if Obama takes a relatively radical course, once it's clear what the course is, the market will stabilize around whatever investors think the market is worth. And I doubt he's crazy enough to do anything extreme. I'm not sure about Congress, however.

  • ||

    NM,

    Okay, half-black, half-outcast.

  • Abra Cadaver||

    "and I'm sure others are bored."

    Put me in that column. Thanks.

  • ||

    Solana,

    That's option 2 - the stock market responded to the economy and the problems in the financial sector.

    But I guess it's so incredibly important to say something bad about Democrats that you didn't notice that.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Pro-lib,

    Isn't that half-white and half-OutKast

    http://www.killahbeez.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/outkast.jpg

  • ||

    Solana,

    Coerced?

    I would buy "enticed," perhaps (with the help of the Republicans), but "coerced" seems a bit strong.


    Under the Clinton administration lenders were threatened by lawsuits to lend to high-risk minorities. I guess the lenders also benefited from it, at least initially?

    Could it be an enticing coercion?

  • Neu Mejican||

    Solana,

    You are looking for the phrase "coercive enticement", perhaps.

  • ||

    But I guess it's so incredibly important to say something bad about Democrats that you didn't notice that.

    Is Bush a Democrat now? Well, he certainly spends (and wages wars) like one...

  • ||

    You are looking for the phrase "coercive enticement", perhaps.

    Beautiful! Many thanks.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Beautiful! Many thanks.

    Don't thank me.
    Thank social science.

  • ||

    Worse than Alan Alda is Mike Ferrell. Better is McLean Stevenson. What the world needs is President Henry Blake.

    Oh, the panic was initiated by a Republican administration. Trust me, I won't forget. If Bush had had the courage not to allow the panic-mongering, then maybe some of us wouldn't be anticipating worse from the all-Democratic Mandate-A-Fest. Only Nixon could go to China and not come back with souvenirs.

  • ||

    I am just not getting what all the fuss is over another black family moving into public housing....

  • ||

    Is Bush a Democrat now?

    Is How about option number three: "Democrats coerced banks and encouraged poor people into irresponsible lending/borrowing on a mass, catastrophic scale?" a statement about George Bush?

  • Neu Mejican||

    sixstring,

    An important element of humor is inappropriateness.

    Nicely done.

  • MAX HATS||

    The various failures and the recession had largely been anticipated. Large but volatile downward market moves are usually based on fear and uncertainty--what's going to happen next? We witnessed some of that when the next big failure was the worry du jour, but the magnitude and the uncertain nature of the government intervention created a panic on a much greater scale that we haven't recovered from yet.



    And all these stock market fluctuations coinciding with the fact that the stock market realizing it has very little idea what anything is worth - pure coincidence. The government is to blame. And when the government hasn't done anything, fear of government is to blame. And when the government has only given hundreds of billions of free money away so far and promises to do the same in the future, still it is fear of government regulation that causes all drops. And when the stocks finally tick up, what will that be? Why, the invisible hand, of course.

  • ||

    MAX HATS,

    I have no idea what you're rambling on about. Are you sure you do?

  • ed||

    You're the first African-American president. You know, what do you say?

    Maybe Chris Rock can dust off some of his old Jennifer Lopez jokes and apply them to Michelle? "So, please, please, re-incarnate me as Michelle Obama's thong!"

    Something like that. Why not?

  • MAX HATS||

    Pro Lib-

    I don't know if I could be any clearer: your analysis of stock market fluctuations is bunk.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Max Hat,

    your analysis of stock market fluctuations is bunk.

  • Neu Mejican||

    That should be...

    your expanatory analysis of stock market fluctuations is bunk.

    Descriptive analysis is fine.

  • ||

    Joe, is it okay to laugh at sixstring's observation?

  • economist||

    MAX HATS,
    Giving away hundreds of billions of dollars to failed companies tends not to stoke confidence in future market conditions. There tends to be the stubborn suspicion that the bill is going to eventually come due, and it won't be good for anyone. And have you ever considered not having your handle in all caps?

  • Neu Mejican||

    libertymike,

    If you think it is a joke, yes.

    If you think it is an observation, no.

    =/;^)

  • Bush||

    Is Bush a Democrat now?

    We are all Democrats now.

  • economist||

    "Pussy!"
    Dammit, Episiarch, I read that on its own and got my hopes up!

  • economist||

    In general, bailouts might cause a temporary uptick in the market, but they tend to go away quickly.

  • MAX HATS||

    I am in no way saying it's a good idea. But the facts and predictions about government involvement have not changed a whit in the last two days. Similarly, we saw massive volatility in the stock market before TARP. I think a much more likely explanation for the present volatility is the simple fact that no one has a very good idea what anything is worth.

    Second question: yes, as I am tired of getting shit for it. However, I think I may then be confused with Mad Max. Time for a new handle maybe? I don't know. Not sure why it's so incredibly irritating to people but if it is, no skin off my back to change it I suppose.

  • ||

    libertymike | January 20, 2009, 5:28pm | #

    Joe, is it okay to laugh at sixstring's observation?


    If you're twelve. You've never heard that joke before?

    economist,

    Giving away hundreds of billions of dollars to failed companies tends not to stoke confidence in future market conditions. There tends to be the stubborn suspicion that the bill is going to eventually come due, and it won't be good for anyone. This is the DJIA we're talking about. Eventually? Since when did the stock market look at a giant pile of money being offered right now, and react badly because of "eventually?"

  • economist||

    "Then why does the SNL Obama character suck so much?"

    Huh. Could it be because SNL has kind of sucked for years?

  • ||

    economist,

    C'mon, their Hillary, Palin, Dubya, and Bubba characters have been awesome.

  • ||

    Well, I'm not blaming any one-day moves on anything. But I think investors' recent fears are much more clearly about what the government will do than on uncertainty about the market itself. We're in a recession, and that's a relatively knowable condition, even with the financial sector "enhancements." What's not knowable is the extent of New Deal II: This Time, It's Personal.

    I'm not sure who thinks the bailout money will be a net positive for the economy, other than those handing it out (George/Barack, I turn my lonely eyes to you, woo, woo, and woo) and those accepting it on bent knee.

  • economist||

    joe,
    If you read the next post, I clarify by pointing out that the stock market temporarily picks up, but absent any substantive improvement in real market conditions or reasonable market expectations will eventually slump back. And in the long run, these bailouts are worse because the bill will in fact come due, whether through higher taxes, more debt, or inflation.

  • Boston||

    It could be that the Obama impersonator sucks.

  • economist||

    joe,
    It might just be an issue of taste. I consider South Park the height of comedic genius, followed closely by the Colbert Report. Most everything else I view as crap.

  • ||

    Joe-

    Let me go to bat for ya. There is no way that you fit #s 2,4,6 or 8 and #7 does not really apply to you notwithstanding the fact that sometimes you feign it (think Walt Kowalski-my new hero).

    Do not view my post as a backhanded compliment because, right off the bat, let me go way out on the limb and declare that most of us here have #s 1 and 3 in spades. I'll certainly cop to those two.

  • economist||

    Boston,
    Maybe it's that the Obama impersonator is caught up in the winds of Hope and Change, and thus doesn't really believe in what he's doing.

  • economist||

    "Like, did Wall Street just think that January 20th would never come?"
    Perhaps they expected him to come down with cancer or something.

  • ||

    Joe-sixstring observation.

    Honest to god, no. Yes, it is juvenile, but I do think that Neu made a good point about humor and inappropriateness. I would add irreverance.

  • MAX HATS||

    Pro Lib-

    If you are going to buy stock in, say, Bank of America, here are a couple relevant unknowns:

    1) Future state of regulation.

    2) How much money the company's assets are worth.

    Not to knock to hard on (1), but don't you think (2) might be a far, far bigger deal? Now repeat this for every company that is tied to Bank of America or another bank. That's the stock market as a whole.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Regarding SNL's Obama.

    The problem is that Armisen is trying to an IMPRESSION of Obama, which is not really funny.

    Think Chevy Chase and Ford...just make fun of the dude, stop trying to be accurate.

  • ||

    I'm not just talking about regulation, though it's a factor. I'm also talking about taxes, monkeying with the money supply, spending tremendous amounts of money on some sectors at the expense of others, etc., etc. This is nothing new, but there's reason to suspect that we're going to turn the dial of government meddling to an "11." That's of concern, especially considering that Keynesian theory, as far as spending your way out of a recession goes, anyway, has been rejected by many economists for quite a while. Which means that all of those finance degrees making the decisions about investments are saying to themselves, "I thought you said crossing the spending streams was bad."

    I'd prefer that the government let the companies fail that should and leave alone the ones that aren't failing. Compare Chase to Citigroup, for instance. One deserves to live, the other deserves to go to the Hell of Being Torn Apart By Sardines.

  • ||

    Do I have Narcissitic Personality Disorder if

    1. my grandiose sense of self-importance is well justified?
    2. my preoccupation with unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love is not a fantasy?
    3. I really am "special" and unique?
    4. admiration of me is perfectly understable?
    5. I really am entitled to what I want?
    . . . .
    8. others really are envious of me, and understably so?
    9. my behaviors or attitudes aren't arrogant or haughty, because I can back them up with actual fabulousness?

    Just askin', is all.

  • Neu Mejican||

    joe,

    To blend threads...

    Making fun of Obama is harder than transporting hydrogen by tanker truck...it can be done, but it may not be worth the effort.

    There is a poor cost-benefit ratio.

  • Paul||

    The funniest thing about Barack Obama is Joe Biden.

    Barack Obama, Joe Biden and a priest walk into a bar...

  • ||

    NM,

    One thing to keep in mind is that there's a difference between humor that requires a political bias to appreciate and humor that transcends political boundaries. Dana Carvey doing Old Man Bush was funny, regardless of your politics. The Daily Show or Tina Fey doing Palin was a lot funnier to people on the left than it was to everyone else. Even Bush the Younger, who I and most around here couldn't stand, was often not mocked effectively.

    Dying is easy; comedy is hard.

    R C Dean,

    "I'm like the David, only with larger manly parts." Is that what you mean?

  • Neu Mejican||

    RC Dean,

    You can answer those questions here...

    http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/dsm-iv.html

    Outstanding performers are not always modest, but they aren't grandiose if their self-assessments are realistic; e.g., Muhammad Ali, then Cassius Clay, was notorious for boasting "I am the greatest!" and also pointing out that he was the prettiest, but he was the greatest and the prettiest for a number of years, so his self-assessments weren't grandiose.

  • Kyle Jordan||

    "Every once in awhile I visit these boards to see if anything's changed. Nope, same people with too much time on their hands engaging in slappy-slap fights. Same people desperate to portray themselves as cool to other people they'll never meet. Same people so full of rage that they can't contain their glee at the illness or death of a public figure.

    Another day, same pathos."

    I know. It's great to finally find a home on the internet.

  • Lefiti||

    You libertardian halfwits just can't handle joe's awesomeness.

  • MAX HATS||

    Pro Lib -

    Of course uncertainty of regulation is a concern. The question is, is it the primary concern. And again, there is major uncertainty over the the value of what were (formerly considered at least) over a trillion dollars in assets, not even counting the derivatives based on that trillion of assets. That is a pretty big deal. You can go back and forth over what the government might do to Bank of America, and that is an issue. A bigger problem is: even if left alone, will Bank of America explode in the next year. A rational economic system is predicated on the widespread distribution of knowledge, amongst other things. Currently, that knowledge is limited, if it exists at all. That lack of knowledge leads to volatility.

    And look at the data points. There was massive volatility before TARP. There was massive volatility before the election. To get to the point where volatility is primarily a fallout of politics you need to put on some serious blinders.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Pro lib,

    Certainly...I said above, know your audience.

    The Daily Show or Tina Fey doing Palin was a lot funnier to people on the left than it was to everyone else.

    I disagree on this assessment and I am pretty much as centrist as you can get.

    Fey was either funny across political lines, or the vast majority of American TV audiences are leftists.

    And the Daily Shows Rep. Convention shows mocking Palin were classic...particularly the bit about "choice."

  • Paul||

    You libertardian halfwits just can't handle joe's awesomeness.

    Legend tells of a legendary commenter who's powers were so awesome, they were said to be the stuff of legend...

  • MNG||

    I think the comedians are just acknowledging that Bush was an easier target to make fun of because he came off as so dumb and Obama comes off as intelligent. Nothing nefarious there really.

    But being African-American also protects him from that as well, but I doubt it's a big deal or will last forever.

  • MNG||

    Caroline Kennedy could be the left's Tina Fey easy. She comes off as a real dumbass to me.

  • ||

    I'm not a Fey fan, so maybe that is another bias. Palin was, certainly, easy to mock.

  • mjn||

    I'm pretty sure that any effect Obama had on the stock market was priced in a long time ago.

  • ||

    Every once in awhile I visit these boards to see if anything's changed. Nope, same people with too much time on their hands engaging in slappy-slap fights. Same people desperate to portray themselves as cool to other people they'll never meet. Same people so full of rage that they can't contain their glee at the illness or death of a public figure.

    Another day, same pathos.


    Jean Bart?

  • ||

    Again, today's movement should have had zero to do with Obama.

  • ||

    Q: Why is Obama against burning coal?

    A: Mother issues.

  • Paul||

    I thought Palin was mimicking Fey?

  • MNG||

    I would think the markets actions today should be subscribed to the lingering effects of SMOOT-HAWLEY.

    But that could be my post hoc ergo proctor reasoning playing tricks with me...

  • Neu Mejican||

    bigbigslacker.



    ?????????

  • ||

    Paul, if so, I wish I'd voted for her.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Q: Why is Obama against burning coal?

    A: Mother issues.


    Really.

    I don't get it.

    It's not even Dadaesque confusing.

    It is just like two sentences with no obvious relationship to each other.

    What am I missing?

  • ||

    Okay, now this is interesting. I just read on Obama's Wikipedia entry that Obama has claimed distant relation to Jefferson Davis.

    He really is all things to all people!

  • highnumber||

    NM,
    I agree.

    This works better if we are writing a mash-up joke:

    Q: Why is Obama against burning coal?

    A: Another day, same pathos

  • Neu Mejican||

    Why is Obama against burning coal?

    The dead ones kick when you are unloading them from the back of a pick-up with a pitch-fork.

  • ||

    As far as American siblings go, Obama just has the one half-sister, right? Is she funny? Democratic presidents have a good recent tradition on funny siblings--Roger, Billy. I hope Obama doesn't disappoint in this regard.

    Of course, now that I know that Barack Jefferson Davis Obama is a redneck, well, I have high expectations for humorous juxtapositions.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Why is Obama against burning coal?

    Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Pro Lib,

    Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng (pronounced /ˈmaɪə suːˈtoʊroʊ ˈɪŋ/) married to Konrad Ng of Burlington, Ontario, Canada.

    Comedy gold.

  • sdf||

    economist,

    C'mon, their Hillary, Palin, Dubya, and Bubba characters have been awesome.


    you probably think jimmy fallon was a comedic genius too...

  • ||

    Hmmm. So she's Canadian? And has an amusing name? I hope the press gets over its love fest soon enough to dig into her background more. There's got to be something good here. We need a good laugh. Does she have her own beer?

  • Neu Mejican||

    Does she have her own beer?

    She has her own Ph.D.?

    Is that close enough?

  • ||

    I am a GOD.

    joshua corning | January 6, 2009, 4:59pm | #
    Robot chicken script

    Aquaman, a rabbi, catholic priest and Obama are standing on a sinking ship.

    Rabbi: there is only one raft what should we do?

    Aquaman: Save the children!

    Rabbi: screw the children!

    Catholic Prest: Do you think there is time?

    Obama: umm i have campaigned (pause) in 57 states to become president of the umm United States (pause) of America and ummm I have discovered (pause) that I do not exist.

    Obama then jumps on the raft and from out side the screen enters Santa Clause, the Easter bunny and Kwanzaa Kangaroo who then jump on the the raft which then immediately capsizes and sinks.

    end scene.


    from here:

    http://www.reason.com/blog/show/130918.html

  • ||

    You libertardian halfwits just can't handle joe's awesomeness.

    Any of you homos handle my awesomeness...I'll kill you.

  • ||

    (pronounced /ˈmaɪə suːˈtoʊroʊ ˈɪŋ/)

    Thanks. Very helpful.

  • ||

    ?????????

    NM, to your credit.

    Coalburner:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coalburner

  • Neu Mejican||

    bigbigslacker,

    You beatniks and your hippy-dippy slang.

    ;^)

  • Neu Mejican||

    bigbigslacker,

    So I was closer than I thought.

    Neu Mejican | January 20, 2009, 6:31pm | #
    Why is Obama against burning coal?

    Colorless green ideas rich girls sleep furiously.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Damned tags

    Colorless green ideas rich girls sleep furiously.

  • EJM||

    Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng (pronounced /ˈmaɪə suːˈtoʊroʊ ˈɪŋ/) married to Konrad Ng of Burlington, Ontario, Canada.

    Any relation to Ana?

  • Coming Soon to a Presidential ||

    "But the question is not, as the cynics may have you believe, whether the program can work, or whether it was staffed with unqualifed relatives and donors, or even what happened to the $2 billion that remains unaccounted for. These questions are the remenants of the politics the past, the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our nation.

    No, the question before us is whether we can harness the greatness of our nation to press on without a special prosecutor. And where we are met with cynicism and doubt and subpoenas and those who tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of the American people in three simple words -- yes, we can."

  • The Wine Commonsewer||

    TWC's seventh grade son, Jacob, came ambling through the door after school today and the following exchange took place.....

    TWC: Bet you heard a lot about the new president at school today.

    The Boy: It was the best day at school ever!

    TWC: [puzzled] Why?

    The Boy: I took a nap in first period.

    TWC: [even more puzzled] What? How?

    The Boy: Because all we did was watch the inquisition and I took a nap. That's all we did in every class. Until math class, then it was over. [slight frown]

    The Boy: [laughing] Hardest class, right? It figures I wouldn't get out of math.

  • economist||

    "Basically, the bank is sitting because they're not below what their paperwork should say and they're not above what their paperwork should say - they're right at their paperwork mark and they don't want to move from that."

    What the hell is she saying?

    Oh, wait, it's Whoopi Goldberg.
    Never mind.

  • economist||

    Even though I'm critical of Keynesianism, I could probably give a better explanation (and one that made it sound better) than that.

  • Paul||

    Is the inauguration over? Can we come out, now?

  • economist||

    But you know, we really shouldn't focus on Whoopi Goldberg's statements. I've been told that it's impolite to point and stare at retarded people.

  • Paul||

    But you know, we really shouldn't focus on Whoopi Goldberg's statements

    Right. Next thing you know, Obama will be offering her a cabinet position. Something in the Treasury would probably be a good fit.

  • juke||

    Neu Mejican wrote:
    "Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng (pronounced /ˈmaɪə suːˈtoʊroʊ ˈɪŋ/"

    *Wanker*: what's that in IPA?

  • ||

    Barack Obama is going to generate 2.5 million jobs for Americans.

    Mostly in Afghanistan!!

    de dum!

  • ||

    Obama pauses at regular intervals for a 3/4 view, almost Che Guevara, pose. Could be pretty funny to render into animation.

  • Neu Mejican||

    juke,

    Just go here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English

  • MJ||

    "...the comedian and actor Chris Rock, speaking with CNN yesterday, made it clear that, if you aren't prone to verbal gaffes and you have a decent-looking first lady, you won't be a target."

    Aren't prone to verbal gaffes? "57 states"? High rates of uncomfortable pauses filled with "ums" when not being teleprompted?

    Pretending someone verbal gaffes do not exist is not the same as him being verbally without fault.

    Rock could target Obama for satire if he tried. He just does not want to try. At least Rock could be honest about it and not give a false excuse.

  • ||

    Anyone see Ray Romano's intro at the inauguration party just now? It was awful, even for Ray Romano.

  • ||

    Aren't prone to verbal gaffes? "57 states"? High rates of uncomfortable pauses filled with "ums" when not being teleprompted?

    He even flubbed the oath as it was being read to him. Understandable given the circumstances, but also comedy worthy.

  • ||

    The Inauguration Party just had trapeze dancers spinning to techno remixes of Obama's speeches. The comedy is writing itself.

  • Hogan||

    Ha! Holy shit, makes me glad I don't have a TV.

  • ||

    "I Barack 0bama, um, do faithfully hereby, um, solemnly swear to execute the, um, President of the United States--um, wait, what?"

  • K.T.||

    The comics are so pathetic, they're actually funny. But, I'm guessing "laughing at them" isn't really the same as "laughing at their jokes."

  • Sir Meatgoggles||

    - Speeches that say absolutely nothing with the utmost eloquence
    - Wanting to be the next FDR / Abraham Lincoln
    - Endless array of faux-scholarly poses
    - Obama Kids
    - Metrosexual male model magazine shots
    - Being one pair of silly glasses away from being a huge dweeb
    - Complete lack of humility
    - Supporters being cured of a variety of physical and mental disorders
    - The psuedo-Jesus imagery
    - A platform based upon feelgood Oprah-style platitudes instead of tangible policies
    - Rahm Emanuel, Joe Biden and Obamabots
    - Larry Sinclair
    - The fact that our last two (and likely the last three) presidents were ex-cokeheads
    - Did I mention Obamabots?
    ...and on and on...

    There's plenty to work with, even before he's done anything as president and even without delving into the murky waters of racial politics. If Chris Rock has already thrown in the towel, white comedians will really have to go out on a limb to crack racial jokes about the most loved African-American in the country.

    Ok, he's not as funny as McCain or Hillary or Bush or Palin or Biden, but he's a lot funnier than many politicians because he's perfected the art of using flowery rhetoric to say absolutely nothing at all.

  • alan||


    Rock could target Obama for satire if he tried. He just does not want to try. At least Rock could be honest about it and not give a false excuse.


    I would not be so sure of that. Chris Rock is a comedian's comedian, and there is no more ripe or difficult target to stretch his talents and raise controversy in his community (Hollywood) than Barack Obama. Rock is biding his time for the right moment (this isn't it), and in comedy timing is everything.

    *Damn Mozilla Foundation, I just got the latest upgrade a few days ago, and you have not as of yet corrected 'Obama' as a typo? Waiting for the second term?

  • J.P.||

    It's amazing how quickly the rhetroic in this presidency has mirrored that of the last, "you're either with us or you're against us."

    The only difference is that the rhetoric now comes bundled up in "Hello Kitty" ribbon.

  • MNG||

    Uhh, hey Graphite, wasn't it Roberts who flubbed the oath?

  • Mr. Blather||

    Here in Japan, they've already found a way to mock Obama, although they don't fully realize it. A comedian who, when in black face looks vaguely like Obama, struts around saying only "I am Obama." "Change" and "Yes, we can." On one show, they introduced different attractive young women to him and for each he said "Yes, we can." When introduced to an older, less attractive woman he said "Change."

  • ||

    Yeah, actually my roommate just pointed that out to me.

  • Seward||

    Despite all the predictions to the contrary, in short order Obama will be mocked and made fun of and this interlude where it was claimed that it was hard to mock him will be forgotten. Humor is pretty easy to conjure up when it comes at the expense of the powerful and the famous.

  • Seward||

    Addendum: I think it would be bad for an Obama presidency if it were really difficult to make fun of him. Humor allows for the blowing off of steam, for example.

  • shecky||

    OK, Sir Meatgoggles. you have a good list there. Now can you actually make a funny with it?

  • Neu Mejican||

    Tonight's Daily Show.
    Funny.
    About Obama.

    I ain't worried.

  • ed||

    No president is immune to satire. Obama has an advantage in inheriting a disaster, not causing one, but that's only a temporary stay of execution. We Americans are ignorant, impatient, and susceptible to sophomoric humor. If Obama doesn't work some miracles within the first few months, the wise-crack artists will be all over him.

  • ||

    The Daily Show and The Onion have done a great job finding the humor in Obama.

    Moynihan and Boaz identify a real trend -- left-leaning comedians who consider Obama off limits for comedy -- but they could at least acknowledge the obvious counterexamples.

  • ||

    Obama playing basketball, nuff said.

  • ||

    I'm a huge Southpark fan
    I've always thought they were the funniest two blokes on that side of the Atlantic since Bill Hicks (Praise be upon him).

    They ripped into Bush post 9/11 when every one else was pussying out to his post 9/11 neo conservative agenda.

    And true to form they took the piss out of Obama they day he won the election.

    Its cus of them I found out about reason actually

    I've gotta admit Obama seems great right now, digging the transparency and Guantanamo closing *
    But taking the piss out of your leaders (and parking meters) is the an integral responsibility of any decent citizen

    *I remember thinking the same thing about Tony "I'm gonna Bomb the shit out of a random middle eastern country then strip away your civil liberties and piss on the Magna Carta" Bliar
    so time will tell eh?

  • ||

    What, you never saw what happens when you cut off his teleprompter?

  • ||

    A lot of these terribly bright people spend a lot of time going after a too easy target, the abominable Whoopi.

  • ||

    http://randomtandem09.blogspot.com/2009/01/barack-obama-turns-water-into-wine.html

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    --How many Baracks does it take to change a light bulb.
    --None. He hopes it changes.

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    Obama is not an African American. He was born in America(maybe) and he is not even to be considered black. His mother is 100% white. He can just as well be called white. I think milano is a better reference to him. His FATHER is an African. Obama is not. He is just as much white as he is black(remember this).

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