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Will Ron Paul Support a Third Party Candidate? Ask Ron Paul.
Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin has launched his web site, and as the boys at Third Party Watch point out, it's calculated to make him look like Ron Paul's heir. No surprise there. Constitution Party founder Howard Phillips pushed delegates to nominate Baldwin over Alan Keyes on the cryptic promise that Paul secretly supported Baldwin and that the vast riches of the Paul campaign were "resources we can look to."
I saw Ron Paul on Wednesday, at a signing event for The Revolution, and he told me he won't endorse Baldwin or Barr. He'll kinda-sorta endorse both. He won't stop them from using photos of him or talking about his campaign.
"Chuck was in my office today to say hello," Paul said. "but I haven't said anything about supporting either one of them. I support both of them in what they're doing, and I encourage them, but that's all."
"Maybe you'll endorse McCain and surprise everybody," asked one of the people walking out of the event with us. "That would surprise me, too!" said Paul. But this is actually a sticking point in the Paul campaign: Some people in his circle want him to swing his weight behind McCain once the primaries are over. At the moment, they're being overruled.
On a related note, back in
Pennsylvania I asked Paul if he'd weigh in and help the "Ron
Paul Republicans" who are running for office using all or part of
his platform. He's started doing so in earnest, buoyed by the easy
victories of candidates like BJ Lawson. Here's a quick-'n'-painful
endorsement he shot for Amit Singh, fighting for Virginia's 8th
district (a safe Democratic seat held by the deeply flawed Jim
Moran).
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 1:13PM|#
Supporting McCain would be bonecrushingly stupid, as it would make him look like a GOP hack and destroy his principled image. "Sure, I ran as totally anti-war and now I'm supporting Senator McHundredYearsWar!"
Bingo|5.9.08 @ 1:14PM|#
What if instead of having 2 or 3 seperate parties that agree on 99% of issues we combined them into 1 party and actually rack up something more than an "Other" sliver on the popular vote pie-graph?
Jim Lesczynski|5.9.08 @ 1:23PM|#
I have a very hard time believing "Some people in his circle want him to swing his weight behind McCain once the primaries are over."
Neil|5.9.08 @ 1:29PM|#
Episiarch why do you continue to spout the loony left lie that McCain wants a 100 years war in Iraq? It was a quote taken out of context and used by the loony far far-left liberal left wing of the Democrat Party to denigrate an honorable man.
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 1:32PM|#
Neil, what did you think of Traci Lord's performance when she joined the third season of First Wave? I thought she was pretty good.
Neil|5.9.08 @ 1:36PM|#
Episiarch I'm not talking about TV shows. Im talking about how you continue to be an unwitting tool of the far-left liberals by parroting their anti-American lies.
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 1:37PM|#
I realize that she is an ex-porn star, Neil, but I felt like she deserved a chance. And she ran with it.
Sam Grove|5.9.08 @ 1:41PM|#
Then McCain should refrain from making bone crushingly stupid comments even if (you can count on it) taken out of context.
Nick_M|5.9.08 @ 1:44PM|#
Episiarch,
I agree with Neil that being in Iraq for "a hundred years" is a
mischaracterization of McCain's views. McCain's neocon worldview
will require the ongoing invasion of multiple countries, for
eternity, or until America runs out of money.
|5.9.08 @ 1:49PM|#
Neil,
I can understand the accusation that McCain is taken out of context
with regards to "stay in Iraq for 1000 years". It doesn't change
the fact that he is an idiot for supporting permanent bases in
North Korea, Germany and Iraq. Of course we know the democrats are
in favor of the same thing. The truth is that Mchundredyears war is
a good nickname, people should feel free to use it. I personally
prefer "McIhategooks".
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 1:50PM|#
Nick, it's not fair to have expected First Wave to be equivalent to shows with much larger budgets. It was on SciFi, after all. They did a pretty good job with what they had.
|5.9.08 @ 1:50PM|#
Maybe Reason will endorse John McCain thus losing any remaining credibility to all libertarians just like when Cato endorsed Fred Thompson.
Neil|5.9.08 @ 1:51PM|#
Gabe you're against permanent bases in South Korea, Germany, and
Japan?
Thanks for outing yourself as an America-hating pacifist loony
toon.
Guy Montag|5.9.08 @ 1:53PM|#
. . . he is an idiot for supporting permanent bases in North
Korea, . . .
He really supports this? Have not heard that one yet. I shall see
if Google truly is my friend.
Taktix®|5.9.08 @ 1:55PM|#
Maybe Reason will endorse John McCain thus losing any
remaining credibility to all libertarians just like when Cato
endorsed Fred Thompson.
Who?
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 1:56PM|#
Neil, were you upset when they killed Zeto on Miami Vice? I know I was. I didn't expect that.
Neil|5.9.08 @ 1:58PM|#
Episiarch you have a weird obsession with old tv shows. Why dont you answer my question, or are you scared like most limp-wristed America-hating leftists?
Mad Max|5.9.08 @ 1:59PM|#
Dr. Paul stands for the right things, but his political skills are so low that I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up "pragmatically" endorsing Hillary - under the assumption that Hillary is a shoo-in to win the Democratic primary. If he doesn't, it will only be because of his principles, not because he is too politically savvy.
|5.9.08 @ 2:00PM|#
Bumper sticker:
H&R -- come for the trolls, stay for the rambling arguments
totally unrelated to the thread's topic!
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 2:01PM|#
Nick, it's just part of a running gag. You mentioned Neil. It's not a brushoff.
|5.9.08 @ 2:02PM|#
It is hard to figure just who/what Reason is for or against. Wishie washie. Talk about cringe..I cringe before I open the site. I find Reason to be usually disappointing and unproductive. I don't think I'll come back to peek in again.
|5.9.08 @ 2:02PM|#
I'm sure Neil knows all about loony radicals quoting stuff out
of context in order to denigrate someone.
I'm against Japanese bases in the United States too. Gee, I must
hate Japan or something.
|5.9.08 @ 2:02PM|#
Funny Neil, you sound like Cosmotarian Overlord. Do you really
think that wanting to keep tax dollars in Americans pockets or at a
minimum, if Joe was in charge, use the money for domestic spending
and making sure we don't need to call on the mexican army troops to
come to New Orleans....you think that is anti-American?
You think Germany can't afford to pay for their own defense from
Russia? You think we should subsideize them in this way? Why not
just send them the money and not risk our soldiers lives? Do you
hate American soldiers this much?
Do you think highly decorated Marine General Smedley Butler hated
America? Try reading his books and see. He might be a little less
biased than the draft dodging chickenhawks you trust.
Neil|5.9.08 @ 2:04PM|#
Gabe you moron Germany, Japan, and South Korea pay for our bases
we dont spend a cent on taxpayer money to operate those
bases.
But if you think America being involved in the world is expensive
wait until you see a world without us.
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 2:04PM|#
So you're actually saying that killing Zeto was a boost for the show, Neil? For me, Switek working alone after that was depressing. It marked the beginning of the end.
Nick_M|5.9.08 @ 2:04PM|#
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up "pragmatically"
endorsing Hillary
You're both wrong.
Ron Paul is showing signs of
Obamamania.
|5.9.08 @ 2:04PM|#
Neil, don't you think Tracy Lords has done as much, or more, to overcome a tawdry, sordid past and succeed in mainstream entertainment?
Neil|5.9.08 @ 2:04PM|#
Your kind of Isolationism, Gabe, is what allowed Hitler to come
to power. That kind of
Charles Lindbergh America hating.
Fluffy|5.9.08 @ 2:06PM|#
Neil,
Actually, crediting McCain with wanting to remain at war in Iraq
for 100 years is too charitable to McCain.
That would mean that he has a timetable for withdrawal: 100 years
and we're out of there.
His official position is actually much worse: that there is no cost
level the Iraq war can attain, in lives or tax dollars, that will
induce him to withdraw, ever, period. There is no length of time we
could be bogged down in Iraq that will lead him to withdraw and
reevaluate, period.
That means that McCain doesn't support a 100 year war, he supports
an infinite war. Given your other posts here, I doubt you are very
good at math, so I'll help you out: Infinity is higher than 100,
Neil.
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 2:07PM|#
Neil, people deserve second chances. Even mediocre porn stars like Traci.
|5.9.08 @ 2:07PM|#
Neil,
You know, I'm starting to wonder if you're real. Are you sure you
aren't thoreau?
Vesco|5.9.08 @ 2:08PM|#
Bless Ron Paul. What an gracious man, to talk to a douchebag such as yourself.
Taktix®|5.9.08 @ 2:09PM|#
You're both wrong.
Ron Paul is showing signs of Obamamania.
Wow, Josh Silverstein must be able to jump like Jackie
Joyner-Kersey to reach conclusion that far off...
Taktix®|5.9.08 @ 2:09PM|#
Your kind of Isolationism, Gabe, is what allowed Hitler to
come to power.
Well, that didn't take long...
|5.9.08 @ 2:11PM|#
Actually, Neil, your kind of interventionism is what allowed Hitler to come into power.
Neil|5.9.08 @ 2:11PM|#
Fluffy we must stay until Iraq is made a peaceful, democratic,
capitalist state and an ally of America and Israel in our War on
Islamofascist Terror.
I know you prefer surrendering to those people that want us all
dead, and thinking that will stop them from doing things like
flying planes into office buildings and blowing up subways but
you're seriously mistaken my friend.
Theres a reason we haven't been attacked on our soil since 9/11.
Its not because of luck. Its because George Bush has KEPT US SAFE
by taking the fight to our enemies.
Guy Montag|5.9.08 @ 2:12PM|#
Episiarch,
Speaking of MV, I was a big fan of CPT Realestate. Loved his radio
show too.
|5.9.08 @ 2:13PM|#
Gabe you moron Germany, Japan, and South Korea pay for our bases we dont spend a cent on taxpayer money to operate those bases.
Ummm, OK?
Wow,...just...wow!!
Neil|5.9.08 @ 2:14PM|#
It might take a long time I won't lie. Its going to be long, its going to be hard, its going to be tough. Its a twilight generational struggle between two civilizations that may not end in our lifetimes. But eventually we won't surrender, and THEY WILL.
Nick_M|5.9.08 @ 2:15PM|#
Wow, Josh Silverstein must be able to jump like Jackie
Joyner-Kersey to reach conclusion that far off...
I don't know. Obama strikes me as the most Paulian of the three.
He's probably better than Hilary domestically, and he's probably
better than both of them on war.
Fluffy|5.9.08 @ 2:15PM|#
Fluffy we must stay until Iraq is made a peaceful,
democratic, capitalist state and an ally of America and Israel in
our War on Islamofascist Terror.
Right, like I said, you and McCain favor an infinite war.
A democratic Iraq might not be a capitalist state. It might not be
peaceful. [We're a democracy, and we aren't peaceful.] It might not
be an ally of the United States. It is virtually certain that it
would not be an ally of Israel.
Your wish list is internally contradictory. This is one reason it
will never be attained. There are others, but this will do to
demonstrate that you and McCain favor a war of infinite
duration.
Maleese|5.9.08 @ 2:15PM|#
I saw Ron Paul on Wednesday, at a signing event for The
Revolution, and he told me he won't endorse Baldwin or Barr. He'll
kinda-sorta endorse both. He won't stop them from using photos of
him or talking about his campaign.
"Chuck was in my office today to say hello," Paul said. "but I
haven't said anything about supporting either one of them. I
support both of them in what they're doing, and I encourage them,
but that's all."
Wiegel, I'm surprised you didn't bring up the fact that most of
Bladwin's supporters are white and Christian. Don't you know how to
score political points with your base anymore?
|5.9.08 @ 2:16PM|#
Neil | May 9, 2008, 1:51pm | #
Gabe you're against permanent bases in South Korea, Germany, and Japan?
Thanks for outing yourself as an America-hating pacifist loony toon.
Damn Neil, I'd hate to live with your mindset. The mindset where
every country in the world needs American Military presence lest
you feel castrated and weak.
|5.9.08 @ 2:18PM|#
"Gabe you moron Germany, Japan, and South Korea pay for our
bases we dont spend a cent on taxpayer money to operate those
bases."
and the Iraq war has been paid for with oil revenues.
I think it is funny that I have fallen for debating with a knock
off on cosmotarian overlord...Michael Young is that you?
Neil|5.9.08 @ 2:19PM|#
WE are the only country that can prevent the globe from erupting
into conflict. By us being involved in the world, we can be a force
for freedom and limit what conflicts do occour.
We are, and should be the global policeman because you can bet your
ass if we don't play that will someone else (China) will. I don't
want a world where China or Russia is the global superpower and we
become the France of the 21st Century.
Fluffy|5.9.08 @ 2:23PM|#
I would say that World War I was an example of democracies
fighting other democracies, since Germany was a parliamentary
monarchy before the generals took control as the war went
bad.
But even if democracies don't tend to go to war with other
democracies, they aren't necessarily allies. India is not an ally
of Israel, Neil. Turkey is not an ally of Israel. Russia is not an
ally of Israel.
And if Iraq becomes a democracy, it will not be an ally of Israel
for the simple reason that all of its potential voters and leaders
think that Israel sucks moose cock. Who in Iraq is going to vote to
be an ally of Israel? No one, unless we stay there with guns to
their heads.
And democracies don't automatically cooperate to fight terror,
either, Neil. Great Britain and Ireland were both democracies in
the 70's, but Ireland had no particular interest in fighting the
IRA for the Brits. Neither did we, when you get right down to it.
We went through the motions but our opposition to the IRA was
extremely lukewarm. So we have no real reason to believe that a
democratic Iraq will go out of its way to isolate itself in the
Arab world by, say, helping Israel fight Hamas. Na Ga Happen.
Guy Montag|5.9.08 @ 2:23PM|#
Did I miss anything? I was busy playing global thermonuclear war on the whopper of a cumputer we have in the basement here at the office.
Mad Max|5.9.08 @ 2:24PM|#
Neil,
You should certainly break that news to the United Kingdom and
Finland (at war 1941-1945).
|5.9.08 @ 2:24PM|#
You know, I find it interesting that Neil's name links to a
travesty of a website that can't even hold to it's mission
statement...on the same page!
Issues
In short, you will always find Freedom's Watch on the side of free people and free markets.
Securing Our Borders -Freedom's Watch believes that our borders must be secured, immigration laws enforced
...
Illegal Drugs - Freedom's Watch opposes the legalization of illicit drugs and supports a drug policy that is both tough and humane, and based on enforcement, prevention, and treatment.
So Neil's site supports neither free
markets(labor) nor free people(the right
to our own bodies).
Sorry Neil, how's about getting serious with your life choices and
then come back to talk. Mmmkay?
|5.9.08 @ 2:26PM|#
Dr. Paul endorsing McCain?
The Constitutionalist Libertarain endorsing the Butcher of Black
Mesa?
Only right after the Yellowstone wolves endorse Butch Otter!
Guy Montag|5.9.08 @ 2:27PM|#
cumputer: Where the hookers and pole dancers for the GTA series are also modeled.
thoreau|5.9.08 @ 2:27PM|#
Neil, you're a damn good performance artist, but don't you think it's time to take a bow and roll the credits? We're all dying to find out who you really are.
svf|5.9.08 @ 2:28PM|#
Here's a quick-'n'-painful endorsement he shot for Amit
Singh, fighting for Virginia's 8th district
an endorsement never felt so lousy...
and LunchBomb.com...? oh boy.
|5.9.08 @ 2:30PM|#
thoreau | May 9, 2008, 2:27pm | #
Neil, you're a damn good performance artist, but don't you think it's time to take a bow and roll the credits? We're all dying to find out who you really are.
Seems that one of us here already knows this answer. Don't we Dr.
T?
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 2:30PM|#
Dr. T., I have asked "Neil" that many times and have been
ignored.
Unless it's you...
dhex|5.9.08 @ 2:30PM|#
i think the nickname "captain foreverwar" rolls off the tongue better, myself.
thoreau|5.9.08 @ 2:31PM|#
*Chuckle* I would never use multiple identities. I suggest that you read "Classical Philosophy and the Art of Santorum" before you embarrass yourself any further, you ignoramus.
Nick_M|5.9.08 @ 2:31PM|#
Nick, it's just part of a running gag.
In that case, I haven't seen First Wave, but I assume that
it's about nineteenth-century feminism.
|5.9.08 @ 2:32PM|#
Guy Montag | May 9, 2008, 2:23pm | #
I was busy playing global thermonuclear war on the whopper of a cumputer we have in the basement here at the office.
Uh, yeah. I'd like a Double WOPR with cheese and a side of fries.
Oh! And can you give one of them Tic-Tac-Toe meals too?
|5.9.08 @ 2:33PM|#
SEE! SEE! Neil disappears for a moment, and thoreau pops in asking him to drop the act! J'accuse!
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 2:34PM|#
before you embarrass yourself any further, you
ignoramus
I'm just going to assume the ignoramus part was directed at Kwix as
there's no way you could be referring to me.
Guy Montag|5.9.08 @ 2:35PM|#
And can you give one of them Tic-Tac-Toe meals
too?
Nobody ever wins that one.
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 2:35PM|#
In that case, I haven't seen First Wave, but I assume that
it's about nineteenth-century feminism.
Here you
go.
PC|5.9.08 @ 2:36PM|#
"svf | May 9, 2008, 2:28pm | #
Here's a quick-'n'-painful endorsement he shot for Amit Singh,
fighting for Virginia's 8th district
an endorsement never felt so lousy...
and LunchBomb.com...? oh boy."
You know what's really lousy? Having Moran (yes that is how it is
spelled in VA) as a rep. Cringe or no cringe, how about helping us
who live in the "belly of the beast" out and visiting
lunchbomb.com. Since everyone cancelled their reason subscriptions
they have at least $20 and Amit's only asking half of that.
Bingo|5.9.08 @ 2:46PM|#
The Constitutionalist Libertarain endorsing the Butcher of Black Mesa?
Gordan Freeman 2008!
Mad Max|5.9.08 @ 2:48PM|#
Oh, never mind, Bramblyspam beat me to it.
According to that link, there are numerous instances of democracies
going to war with each other, but in each and every case there are
special circumstances making one of the warring parties to be not a
true Scotsman, I mean democracy.
Ach, if it nae fits *my* definition of democracy, then it's nae
democracy, and if ye say otherwise, I'll play on my bagpipes so I
will nae be able to hear ye.
|5.9.08 @ 2:48PM|#
Episiarch | May 9, 2008, 2:34pm | #
"before you embarrass yourself any further, you ignoramus"
I'm just going to assume the ignoramus part was directed at Kwix as there's no way you could be referring to me.
I dunno, Dr. T has called me much worse in the past so it may have
been directed at you. Of course, once he learns how to be a real
physicist his tone and demeanor may settle down a bit. :)
Episarch, running gag. Sort of like your calling out of crappy
1980s action shows but involving long missing denizens of this
blog.
|5.9.08 @ 2:50PM|#
Nick_M | May 9, 2008, 2:31pm | #
In that case, I haven't seen First Wave, but I assume that it's about nineteenth-century feminism.
Actually it's about nineteenth-century female hair styles. The
follow-on series "The First Perm" didn't do as well.
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 2:55PM|#
Sort of like your calling out of crappy 1980s action shows
but involving long missing denizens of this blog.
Crappy?!?
Sean Scallon|5.9.08 @ 3:01PM|#
Tell the people "in his circle" who want RP to endorse McCain to
kindly leave that circle. No speaking slot at the convention is
worth such a sell-out.
There's nothing to endorse. McCain is not a conservative nor
libertarian, he is a right-wing social democrat. What would be the
point?
|5.9.08 @ 3:02PM|#
Yes. Crappy. What other adjective would you ascribe to Miami Vice? Colorful perhaps but colorful crap is still crap.
♪|5.9.08 @ 3:03PM|#
But this is actually a sticking point in the Paul campaign: Some people[who?] in his circle want him to swing his weight behind McCain once the primaries are over.[citation needed]
Guy Montag|5.9.08 @ 3:05PM|#
What other adjective would you ascribe to Miami
Vice?
Pre CPT Realestate, maybe, but not during.
|5.9.08 @ 3:24PM|#
H&R -- come for the trolls, stay for the rambling
arguments totally unrelated to the thread's topic!
QFT
Guy Montag|5.9.08 @ 3:35PM|#
Why would Dr. Paul endorse anyone, he hasn't dropped out of
the race.
Ah, yes, so that would make Mrs. Clinton his natural choice.
|5.9.08 @ 3:36PM|#
John McCain a conservative? You got to be kidding me - unless
your definition of a conservative is someone who spends our
grandkid's money like a drunken sailor so our country can go kill
Arabs who have done us no harm.
When McCain loses big in November maybe he can go hunt Osama bin
Laden as a private bounty hunter - I just might buy him a one-way
ticket to Afghanistan.
|5.9.08 @ 3:37PM|#
Kwix | May 9, 2008, 2:30pm | #
thoreau | May 9, 2008, 2:27pm | #
Neil, you're a damn good performance artist, but don't you think it's time to take a bow and roll the credits? We're all dying to find out who you really are.Seems that one of us here already knows this answer. Don't we Dr. T?
While thoreau is undoubtably clever and twisted enough to pull off
something similar to the Neil schtick, the good professor has a
real job. He would be unable devote the time necessary to be the
intertube pestilence that is Neil.
We must look elsewhere.
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 3:40PM|#
While thoreau is undoubtably clever and twisted enough to
pull off something similar to the Neil schtick, the good professor
has a real job. He would be unable devote the time necessary to be
the intertube pestilence that is Neil.
Maybe that's what he wants you to think.
(So this is what being a Truther feels like.)
|5.9.08 @ 3:47PM|#
J sub D,
I note for the record that thoreau's ability to post as Neil in
this thread has clearly been limited by his need to post as
"thoreau", which, incidentally, sounds suspiciously like a
pseudonym to me. Nah, he's Neil. Besides, he's just using some
obscure Firefox plugin to automatically submit posts. If you read
"Neil" carefully, you'll note that many of his comments don't
require actual knowledge of other comments in the thread. Kind of
like bin Laden videos.
Neil|5.9.08 @ 3:49PM|#
Im a real person. What do you want me to do post my phone # so you can call me??
|5.9.08 @ 3:56PM|#
Im a real person. What do you want me to do post my phone #
so you can call me??
It's been done.
By Donderooooooooo!
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 3:57PM|#
Neil, a phone number is a good start. Also, pictures, preferably
of hot chicks and not you.
Your full name so we can compare it against Freedom's Watch
contributors.
Or you can just admit you're an art project. Come on, you know you
want to.
|5.9.08 @ 3:57PM|#
And Neil, you don't have the stones to post a e-mail address, so just keep talking shit you won't dare back up.
Neil|5.9.08 @ 4:00PM|#
I might do that when pepole start responding to my points instead of talking about shitty left-wing tv shows.
Neil|5.9.08 @ 4:13PM|#
Give me a break Episiarch everyone knows Hollywood is a hotbed of leftism and grown up red diaper babies sneaking their radical socialist agenda into 99% of tv shows and movies.
Episiarch|5.9.08 @ 4:32PM|#
Well, yes, Manimal was pretty brutal, and not in the good way. I tend to forget some of the worse shows because I was pretty young.
|5.9.08 @ 4:36PM|#
Ron's sellout mafia consists of Tom Lizardo, Lou Moore, and Mark Elam, all ardent Republican Party apparatchiks.
|5.9.08 @ 4:37PM|#
Ersatz-David,
Don't even go there. Space: 1999 ruled! Well, the first
season, anyway. And only if you totally shut off any understanding
of physics.
Not to mention that the Eagle may be the best fictional spacecraft
ever depicted. I still want one.
|5.9.08 @ 4:56PM|#
ProL,
Nuh-uh. *Any* of the ships in Spaceballs has that beat.
Especially MegaMaid.
|5.9.08 @ 5:13PM|#
Neil
I know you revere Tracy Lords and all, but could we stick to the
topic at hand
which is about how McCain is a RINO pretty much equal to
Hillery.
But, is First Wave that show with the dude from Quantum Leap?
If so then you really are Dr T
|5.9.08 @ 5:17PM|#
Um, "Neil", can you explain general relativity to me? No reason I'm asking you, I just thought maybe you could tell me.
|5.9.08 @ 5:18PM|#
Neil
After you are done talking about how McCain is so RINO he is no
different from Hillary, you can talk about
Who is the 12th Cylon.
If you do well on both those counts, you can go ahead and talk
about Tracy Lords in First Wave, and we will pay attention.
Speaking of left wing shows, does anyone else get that the society
of BattleStar Gallactica is a communist dictatorship?
BakedPenguin|5.9.08 @ 5:29PM|#
Traci Lords would make a far better president than John McCain.
I'd prefer Samantha Fox. But then again, I'm a cosmo.
|5.9.08 @ 5:52PM|#
For a real story... Notice how Ron Paul refuses to endorse
opponents of incumbent Republicans even when the incumbent is a
war-lover like John McCain?
For instance a Ron Paul platformed Republican is running in
Virginia's 10th district: Vern McKinley... against
McCain-like 28 year incumbent Frank Wolf.
Ron Paul plays party politics too I guess.
Akston|5.9.08 @ 6:37PM|#
...and didn't Space 1999 have that woman who turned into a cat or something. Martin Laundau was good in it.
|5.9.08 @ 7:49PM|#
Umm, WHO in Ron's circle asked him to get behind McCain? I think this is one of those unbacked assertions that constantly pop up in the media. I bet that even if you produce a person "in his circle" it'll be some nobody that Ron doesn't even listen to.
|5.9.08 @ 8:28PM|#
I'm going to check out the Constitution Party. Maybe it's their
time as this article suggests:
http://miraclesdaily.blogspot.com/
|5.9.08 @ 9:06PM|#
Neil, you left your cowboy boots over at Bobby's house again. That's twice this week. and you promised. Now come here, it's time for your medication. You don't want to go back, do you? And please,don't play with Dad's computer, he's got important things on there
George Dance|5.9.08 @ 9:29PM|#
Hmmm ... there were a lot of cuts in the Singh endorsement. Perhaps it was because Paul kept screaming racist epithets at Singh that had to be cut. Perhaps you and Mr. Sanchez should investigate.
Pablo Escobar|5.9.08 @ 9:46PM|#
As an Australian, I must say that Americans are so dumb. Even
the libertarian ones.
Why would anyone maintain two minor (LP & Constitution) parties
with almost exactly the same policies when you know the system is
so undemocratic towards 3rd parties in the first place?
If the LP & Const. party agreed to disagree on certain issues,
they could leave those issues out of their platform and express no
official opinion on it - you don't need a policy for everything
under the sun.
|5.9.08 @ 10:17PM|#
Did anyone find out who McCain will endorse when he's out?
...and didn't Space 1999 have that woman who turned into a cat or something. Martin Laundau was good in it.
Akston,
To answer your second question, yes. And Martin Landau is good in
most things.
To answer your first question, Martin Landau.
Pablo Escobar,
It's because the two parties aren't as close as you might think.
One big difference is that the Constitution Party is heavily
religious and much more a conservative party than a libertarian
one. Although common ground would make you think unification might
be possible, we've learned from the major parties what happens when
you have no ideals or principles at all, after diluting them
repeatedly to allow in more voters. Besides, the third parties all
taken together are still far too small.
|5.10.08 @ 2:27AM|#
(Theres a reason we haven't been attacked on our soil since
9/11. Its not because of luck. Its because George Bush has KEPT US
SAFE by taking the fight to our enemies.)
I get so sick of hearing this idiotic reasoning why we have not
been attacked here,is because George Bush is keeping us safe. They
have not attacked us here is because why bother. We are on thier
turf. They have already killed more Americans and wounded thousands
more then those of 911. WE are spending billions to fight them
thier, While they can keep fighting and killing American soldiers
with what basically amounts to chump change compared to what we are
spending. So thier just bleeding us dry. These terrorist are not
stupid. Do you really think if they wanted to come over here we
could stop them? We can't even stop the illegals from crossing our
borders. All were doing is making it easy for them. They can drag
this war out forever and win by bankrupting us.
|5.10.08 @ 9:05AM|#
Ron Paul's political skills are so low
that he, three times, defeated an incumbent to get into Congress?
That's really easy? Damn, let's just throw all of the bastards out
-- we'll use our 'so low' political skills.
Eric Dondero|5.10.08 @ 9:32AM|#
Hmmn. Bob Barr, a former 4-term United States Congressman.
Chuck Baldwin, a former what? Has Baldwin ever been elected dog
catcher?
Yes Ron, from your perspective both are equally good on the issues.
But other things matter, as well, like credibility.
Barr as a minor-celebrity Congressman from the 1990s has it.
Baldwin has no claim to fame outside the tiny Constitution
Party.
And equaling the CP with the LP is absurd. The CP will have maybe
30 state ballot access, and the LP will have 48 or 49. Not even in
the same ballpark.
Eric Dondero|5.10.08 @ 9:35AM|#
Has anyone here ever heard of this Baldwin guy, before he
secured the CP nomination?
I consider myself quite adept and up-to-date in politics, most
especially Right-wing politics. I never heard of this guy
before.
Seriously? What's his claim to fame? What's he known for?
I vaguely remember some Populist Radio Talk Show host from North
Florida, back in the 1990s when I was living in Tallahassee, named
Baldwin. He was syndicated throughout the south. It was a cross
political show/consumer affairs deal. Is this the same guy?
|5.10.08 @ 10:05AM|#
"Taktix® | May 9, 2008, 2:09pm
Your kind of Isolationism, Gabe, is what allowed Hitler to come to
power.
Well, that didn't take long..."
Well, it did take about 30 posts before Godwin's Law was satisfied
. . . ;^)
Minion of Urkobold®|5.10.08 @ 4:18PM|#
OH HAI DONDEROOOOOOOO!!
How were the Tijuana Hookers? Hear from Rudy much?
K THX BAI!
|5.10.08 @ 11:25PM|#
(Theres a reason we haven't been attacked on our soil since
9/11. Its not because of luck. Its because George Bush has KEPT US
SAFE by taking the fight to our enemies.)
Why didn't that work for Britain or Spain?
|5.11.08 @ 1:59AM|#
Thanks for posting the video with Amit Singh For Congress in Virginia, and Ron Paul.
|5.11.08 @ 1:19PM|#
Paul should keep running. His principles are those from which
his true supporters won't sway.
Liberty and Freedom are not compromised objects, so he shouldn't
back McCain; and if a former Ron Paul supporter who votes McCain
because he DOESN'T THINK RON PAUL CAN WIN (whether or not he CAN
win), it would be better for him to tie a millstone around his neck
and jump into the ocean.
Because true lovers of liberty do not sacrifice it for security or
"Republican" administrations--or Democratic for that matter. Nor do
they throw it away at the command of War Times.
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