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Lando Calrissian's Cloud City for Fat People
David
Small writes in with news that, as an AP headline puts
it, "France may make it illegal to promote extreme
thinness":
The French parliament's lower house adopted a groundbreaking bill Tuesday that would make it illegal for anyone—including fashion magazines, advertisers and Web sites—to publicly incite extreme thinness.
The National Assembly approved the bill in a series of votes Tuesday, after the legislation won unanimous support from the ruling conservative UMP party. It goes to the Senate in the coming weeks.
Fashion industry experts said that, if passed, the law would be the strongest of its kind anywhere. Leaders in French couture are opposed to the idea of legal boundaries on beauty standards.
reason on chubsy-ubsyism here.
Lando Calrissian: "Cloud City Entrepaneur (sic) or Everyday Cock-Blocker" here.
|4.17.08 @ 3:22PM|#
This is idiotic. Is just featuring someone really thin "promoting" it? Why the hell does the government get to decide who's too fat or too thin now?
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 3:24PM|#
Why the hell does the government get to decide who's too fat
or too thin now?
Didn't france (or some real country) recently institute minimum
weight standards for models?
Andy|4.17.08 @ 3:25PM|#
Arguments about female body image are always fun. I love how people pretend that it's "the media" that has made being obese unattractive. And so to combat the discrimination of one group, we'll discriminate against their opposite instead. Granted, most of these models aren't naturally that thin, but doesn't the whole "beauty is on the inside" message get discredited when you obsess over weight either way?
|4.17.08 @ 3:25PM|#
This policy is obviously a form of anti-gay bigotry, since the waif model look is preferred almost exclusively by gay male fashionistas. When you use a woman as a clothes hanger, you prefer this look. When you actually FUCK women, you want them to look like women- not prepubescent concentration camp survivors.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 3:27PM|#
you want them to look like women- not prepubescent
concentration camp survivors.
Speak for yourself, you savage.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 3:28PM|#
Bingo,
I don't remember the details, but I do remember having the same
reaction to the regulation story as I have to this one.
Perhaps I am the over sensitive type?
Joel|4.17.08 @ 3:30PM|#
Hard to tell for sure, but I'm guessing that was a pretty girl
before she got trapped in that cellar for six months, subsisting on
rats.
I'd like to buy her a cheeseburger.
Bingo|4.17.08 @ 3:35PM|#
Guy:
Looks like an industry reg.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5341202.stm
The Spanish Association of Fashion Designers has decided to ban models who have a BMI of less than 18.
|4.17.08 @ 3:42PM|#
Just when you think there's no more places to rub your wang and get off, along comes a very appealing ribcage....
Episiarch|4.17.08 @ 3:42PM|#
Hey, let's not fail to acknowledge that it takes a lot of work*
to get that thin. She should be congratulated for her willpower and
dedication.
* Arbeit macht frei!
Bingo|4.17.08 @ 3:44PM|#
Huge generalization:
Paleos' like 'em thick and the cosmotarians' aesthetic is geared
toward the metropolitan petite.
|4.17.08 @ 3:45PM|#
I'm confused. Does that image promote thinness?
I'm getting a glimpse of some weird sci-fi world where, when
sapients are liberated from concentration camps, they immediately
put on a fashion show.
Dang, it looks like she was really cute, before, the, uh,
tapeworm...
TallDave|4.17.08 @ 3:49PM|#
I love thin girls. I won't date a girl who weighs more than 120
lbs.
The girl in the pic is pretty close to my ideal. Beauty, as they
say, is in the eye of the beholder.
Health is another matter. I would never ask a gf to starve herself
to look better.
But that whole issue is a red herring. You can lose weight drinking
protein shakes, taking vitamins, and drinking green tea.
Thin models don't promote thinness, they just sell what a lot of
guys want.
Pottsy|4.17.08 @ 3:50PM|#
Anyone else getting the "BBW Romance" banner ad right now? Now, she is cute...
|4.17.08 @ 3:52PM|#
Is it any wonder that gay men think the most beautiful women look like little boys?
Pottsy|4.17.08 @ 3:52PM|#
Thin models don't promote thinness, they just sell what a lot of
guys want.
Dior?
TallDave|4.17.08 @ 3:56PM|#
OK, more accurately, they sell women the perception that they can look like what guys want if they buy these clothes.
|4.17.08 @ 4:00PM|#
The girl in the pic is pretty close to my ideal.
All she needs is a good bout of leprosy, and it's pussy galore for
TallDave.
|4.17.08 @ 4:00PM|#
"You can lose weight drinking protein shakes, taking vitamins,
and drinking green tea."
You dont get THAT thin by drinking shakes, taking vitamins and
drinking teas. No way.
Bingo|4.17.08 @ 4:03PM|#
Maybe as libertarians we could agree perhaps individuals find
different body types attractive and an industry just happened to
standardize around one of those body types. Additionally,
individuals find certain self-images to be comfortable to them and
are usually happier when they have that self-image.
Nah, fuck it. I'm with TallDave, skinny girls are way hotter.
Episiarch|4.17.08 @ 4:04PM|#
Is it any wonder that gay men think the most beautiful women
look like little boys?
While true, it also happens that thin models are better clothes
hangers for designers' stuff. Additionally, in the fashion world it
is OK to be a bit too thin but it is absolutely
unacceptable to be sporting any fat or cellulite. If you're
going to err in one direction, thinner is the way to go.
|4.17.08 @ 4:05PM|#
hah. Is anyone else getting a advert for BBW
Romance.com on the right?
After getting an eyeful of that model, I seriously thinking of
giving it a shot.
|4.17.08 @ 4:05PM|#
My biggest problem with a girl who looks like that is that I would NEVER want to see the bulging outline of my own dick through her lower stomach.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 4:08PM|#
I'm confused. Does that image promote thinness?
In the minds of some, yes, the same way that an image of a Hispanic
woman in a political ad promotes racism, i.e., in the eye of a
zealot everything is an affront.
Taktix®|4.17.08 @ 4:11PM|#
The blouse that woman-stick thing is wearing looks like it was
designed for at least some boobies. The fabric looks like its
drooping where it shouldn't.
I don't find that attractive at all. If I'm with a woman that runs
the risk of snapping during teh intercourse, I doubt strongly that
I'd enjoy it.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 4:11PM|#
Actually, the magazines that promote the rail thin models tend
to be run by women and the magazines with well-built, could
pole-cance for three shifts straight models tend to be run by men
for men.
Reminds me , I need to support women in the arts more often.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 4:12PM|#
My biggest problem with a girl who looks like that is that I
would NEVER want to see the bulging outline of my own dick through
her lower stomach.
So no reenacting the movie Alien for you huh?
|4.17.08 @ 4:13PM|#
Supermodels. Heh! Nothing super about them... spoiled, stupid little stick figures with poofy lips who think only about themselves. Feh! I used to design for *gods*!
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 4:14PM|#
JCJ,
That is a chick, dude! If *you* can't tell the difference then I
guess you have about twice the opportunity, not that there is
anything wrong with that . . .
|4.17.08 @ 4:17PM|#
"...it also happens that thin models are better clothes hangers
for designers' stuff. Additionally, in the fashion world it is OK
to be a bit too thin but it is absolutely unacceptable to be
sporting any fat or cellulite."
Beat me to it Epi.
Clothes, for modeling purposes, just hang better on thin and tall
women. And that is what the designer wants to show off, not the
model per se.
However, if you notice swimwear models tend to have a few more
pounds than runway models, and are in better shape- no fat or
cellulite.
And you may not believe me, but some of these thin runway models
actually DO have cellulite and would not be booked for
swimwear.
Bingo|4.17.08 @ 4:17PM|#
I have to question the heterosexuality of anyone that can only identify gender by exaggerated secondary sex characteristics.
|4.17.08 @ 4:18PM|#
Just when you think there's no more places to rub your wang
and get off, along comes a very appealing ribcage....
Now ribbed for his pleasure?
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 4:22PM|#
Ah, the bashing of heterosexual males begins. I knew when SugarFree entered into the world of feministing that it could destroy ours.
NeonCat|4.17.08 @ 4:27PM|#
I'd buy her a cheeseburger, but she'd have to have an incredible personality for me to want to bed her, poor little stickfigure.
Jozef|4.17.08 @ 4:28PM|#
My biggest problem with a girl who looks like that is that I
would NEVER want to see the bulging outline of my own dick through
her lower stomach.
Jamie for the win. It did get me into trouble, though, as I was
reading this during a company meeting.
Happy Gay Worker|4.17.08 @ 4:29PM|#
Planing down the thighs, planing down the thighs.
I make five bucks an hour, planing down the thighs.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 4:31PM|#
She would fit better than most in the back seat of my Jeep, but the Charger could take a couple of those BBW models easy.
|4.17.08 @ 4:37PM|#
That is a very disturbing photograph. She looks more suited for
a role in Les Miz than she does for the catwalk. In all
seriousness, she looks feverish with hunger to me.
rana - that is true about swimsuit models.
Back in the early 90s, Rebecca Romijn was more fleshy than she is
now. She modeled swimsuits and lingerie for J. Crew, but they never
had her modeling clothing. She had an incredible body at the time.
Then she married John Stamos, dropped a bunch of weight, and became
a supermodel & celebrity. I don't think she would have made
that transition if she hadn't lost weight. I don't think she is too
thin now, but both her face and body look different.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 4:49PM|#
That is a very disturbing photograph.
Did not make a sound on my computer.
Dave B.|4.17.08 @ 4:53PM|#
Bingo -
Question my sexuality if you want. What other than the dress gives
away the idea of that being a woman? On a related note, how many
trannies have you dated?
|4.17.08 @ 4:55PM|#
The Spanish Association of Fashion Designers...
Nobody expects the Spanish Association of Fashion Designers!!
|4.17.08 @ 4:56PM|#
The supermodels. Won't somebody please think of the
supermodels????
Perhaps the French parliament can next tackle the high cost of
designer hair care products.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 4:56PM|#
I can't help it. Now that I have left the ranks of the bitter gun-slinging Fundies and rejoined the Cosmotarians I have an insatiable desire for red wine and boney chicks.
|4.17.08 @ 5:01PM|#
See definition 2 below.
dis·turb
1. To break up or destroy the tranquillity or settled state of:
"Subterranean fires and deep unrest disturb the whole area" (Rachel
Carson).
2. To trouble emotionally or mentally; upset.
3. To put out of order; disarrange.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 5:05PM|#
The appearance of others disturbs you? That is disturbing.
Wait, this is contagous, now you have me doing it.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 5:10PM|#
Bingo,
Think we can get a catfight out of it? I am betting on the
supermodel.
|4.17.08 @ 5:10PM|#
Supermodels. Heh! Nothing super about them... spoiled, stupid little stick figures with poofy lips who think only about themselves. Feh! I used to design for *gods*!
WIN!
|4.17.08 @ 5:28PM|#
What do you call a supermodel with a yeast infection?
A quarter pounder with cheese.
|4.17.08 @ 5:28PM|#
I'm pretty much with JC Jackson. Clothes for women are designed
by men who HATE WOMEN. Don't you gals get it? They are making FUN
of you! Now, go get something to eat.
CB
|4.17.08 @ 5:33PM|#
Let me get this straight.
man says she is not too thin: Gay and possible pedophile
man says she is too thin: Muy Macho
woman says she is too thin: Jealous
woman says she is not too thin:... (well, still waiting for that
one)
|4.17.08 @ 5:35PM|#
I prefer to be thin and not flabby, but have never coveted anyone's washboard ribs.
|4.17.08 @ 5:36PM|#
Bingo | April 17, 2008, 4:17pm | #
I have to question the heterosexuality of anyone that can only
identify gender by exaggerated secondary sex
characteristics.
Really? I don't see how it would have any bearing on the person's
sexual preference, but what do I
know?!!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!
Stevo Darkly | April 17, 2008, 4:57pm | #
PS: I'm talking Career Opportunities, not earlier.
Haha, yeah right, I'll bet you really dig her in Labyrinth.
Personally, I didn't even notice her in that, I was enthralled by
Bowie in those little tights.
|4.17.08 @ 5:48PM|#
Keep you hands where we can see them. You are under arrest for 'conspiracy to incite extreme thinness.'
JLE|4.17.08 @ 6:51PM|#
It seems like the article was intended to have people consider regulation of body size. It's too bad all focus is on the photo rather than the revoked right for people to eat (or not eat) what they please.
|4.17.08 @ 7:05PM|#
JLE, I think that's a given around here. The stupidity of the propsal has so far gone unchallenged.
Robert|4.17.08 @ 7:08PM|#
Whoopee, meaningless law. They'll never be able to prove someone promoted excessive thinness.
Skoal|4.17.08 @ 7:09PM|#
Guy Montag likes little boys?
Hardly suprising, given his frequent use of NAMBLA codewords like
"train oil" and "heat pump".
Bingo|4.17.08 @ 7:10PM|#
Okay regulating how people want to look is retarded and
hopeless.
Now that's settled, let's talk about how skinny chicks are
positively ruthless in the sack!
|4.17.08 @ 7:43PM|#
Now that's settled, let's talk about how skinny chicks are
positively ruthless in the sack!
Thin as a rail or big as a house, it doesn't matter as long as they
have a flat head.
|4.17.08 @ 8:08PM|#
Thin as a rail or big as a house, it doesn't matter as long
as they have a flat head.
To rest your beer on?
|4.17.08 @ 8:36PM|#
Clothes for women are designed by men who HATE
WOMEN.
Not in all cases, by any means. I've seen a few dresses that
clearly were celebrations of the female body.
-jcr
zoltan|4.17.08 @ 8:52PM|#
Now that's settled, let's talk about how skinny chicks are
positively ruthless in the sack!
Like how their bones jut out and poke you? Or underfed ones like
the one pictured above don't have the energy to keep going for much
more than a few minutes?
|4.17.08 @ 9:16PM|#
Ironically enough, because of the ironic headline, the ad on the
side of this article is for BBWRomance.com.
And that chick is SOOO not hot. Starved and rib bones poking out
doesn't work for me.
|4.17.08 @ 9:21PM|#
Assuming that even IS a chick. Kinda androgynous, yeah? (Not the
woman in the BBWRomance ad. Definitely some curves and estrogen
there.)
That skinny chick is one prole that needs to be fed, if you'll
forgive the pun.
|4.17.08 @ 10:55PM|#
Hey, pretty unlibertarian of you people. A bunch of fashion
design houses and other entities get together and decide that they
don't want models who are too skinny and get the gov't to pass a
regulation about it. Hello? I thought libertarians LOOOVED it when
companies were able to set their own regulations?
That bloody woman can be as anorexic as she wants; she just can't
get paid for being a model and anorexic.
Rhywun|4.17.08 @ 11:04PM|#
Is it any wonder that gay men think the most beautiful women
look like little boys?
One could argue that she looks like a little girl, and is preferred
by the straight men who actually run the business. But that
wouldn't satisfy the urge to perpetuate the ridiculous stereotype
that gay men like little boys, I guess.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 11:05PM|#
On a related note, how many trannies have you
dated?
My guess is some number less than you have, Dave.
Guy Montag|4.17.08 @ 11:09PM|#
You idiots! That is not a BBW dating ad, it is the Drew Carey Project ad!
|4.18.08 @ 12:18AM|#
Grumpy:
"Leaders in French couture are opposed to the idea of legal
boundaries on beauty standards."
The fashion industry didn't push for the regulation. It gave a nod
towards self-regulation by signing some sort of non-binding
agreement with lawmakers - whatever that weirdness means - but they
clearly are opposed to this bill.
If the fashion industry wants to stop parading women who are dying
of starvation down the runway, I assume they will do it. I'd like
that. But that's not what is happening here.
|4.18.08 @ 4:58AM|#
Hey, pretty unlibertarian of you people. A bunch of fashion
design houses and other entities get together and decide that they
don't want models who are too skinny and get the gov't to
pass a regulation about it. Hello? I thought libertarians
LOOOVED it when companies were able to set their own
regulations?
And hello to you! You must be brand-new here. I can tell because
you don't seem to know the first thing about libertarianism.
I invite you to lurk more, and learn.
Meanwhile, I've bolded the obviously unlibertarian stuff above for
your edification.
See, the thing is, companies can't set their own rules
(for themselves) when there is a a government regulation that
forces them to do things a certain way.
If they chose, maybe some companies could use skinnier models, and
other companies could use thicker/curvier models -- and then we
could see which were more effective at appealing to consumers and
selling clothes. But there's no chance of anyone going
their own way and experimenting and learning anything of the sort
if there is a regulation forcing everyone to do things the same
way.
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