Two Georgia men are asking the Georgia Supreme Court to prevent prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against them. Two years ago, the two fired on police as they conducted a 1 am no-knock drug raid on the group house where the men lived. They say they thought they were being robbed, perhaps by rival drug dealers.
There's no question there was drug activity going on in the home. But other witnesses present for the raid say they had no idea the raiding officers were police. There also seem to be some problems with the warrant, which relied on two confidential informants, one of whom was later deemed unreliable by a state judge. In the months after the raid, the prosecutor initially tried to charge everyone in the house with murder, including one man who lived at the house but wasn't present at the time of the raid.
These guys obviously aren't poster children for the problems with no-knock raids. Let's put aside the question of whether or not they deserve the death penalty. The case also illustrates the point that these raids make things less safe for police, too. It's hard to believe even most drug dealers would knowingly take on a team of raiding police, unless they have a death wish. Drug penalties are severe, but knowingly killing a police officer is almost certain death, either at the scene or once the criminal justice system is through with you. Deadly force to prevent a rival dealer from stealing your supply? I can see that. Deadly force against a raiding police force? Seems far less likely.
Dep. Joseph Whitehead may well still be alive today had he and his fellow officers found a less volatile and confrontational way of serving their warrant.
The outcome certainly couldn't have been much worse.
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Taktix®|4.17.08 @ 1:56PM|#
Good thing Dep. Whitehead didn't take his kids along for this one...
Heinrick|4.17.08 @ 2:00PM|#
"Do Drug Offenders Have the Right to Home Protection?"
No
Elemenope|4.17.08 @ 2:04PM|#
Heinrick, why not?
|4.17.08 @ 2:08PM|#
Hell, if they don't have fourth amendment rights, why would anyone think they have the right of home protection.
Get with the program.
|4.17.08 @ 2:11PM|#
Do Drug Offenders Have the Right to
That's as far as I read but I am gonna go out on a huge limb and say the courts will rule "No, they don't"
TallDave|4.17.08 @ 2:13PM|#
It's sort of sad that neither party can admit this whole problem could be solved by eliminating the laws that make drug trafficking so profitable and simultaneously unregulatable.
We created conditions that ensured the most violent and ruthless drug dealers would best prosper, and then we're shocked at the natural result.
I'm especially disappointed in the GOP. They're supposed to understand market distortions. It's too bad the mindless so-cons have hijacked it.
Choir Leader|4.17.08 @ 2:14PM|#
Well, if there was no WoD in the first place, etc. etc. ...
TallDave|4.17.08 @ 2:15PM|#
Hell, if they don't have fourth amendment rights
Yeah, that's the core problem. How the hell did we lose the right to decide what can ingest?
Choir Leader|4.17.08 @ 2:16PM|#
Beaten by TallDave. Not my fault, I was in police custody...
|4.17.08 @ 2:16PM|#
The case also illustrates the point that these raids make things less safe for police, too. It's hard to believe even most drug dealers would knowingly take on a team of raiding police, unless they have a death wish. Drug penalties are severe, but knowingly killing a police officer is almost certain death, either at the scene or once the criminal justice system is through with you.
When arguing about the inanity of no knock raids, this is a point that may convince some otherwise unreasonable people.
|4.17.08 @ 2:52PM|#
Radley Balko,
Drug penalties are severe, but knowingly killing a police officer is almost certain death, either at the scene or once the criminal justice system is through with you. Deadly force to prevent a rival dealer from stealing your supply? I can see that. Deadly force against a raiding police force? Seems far less likely.
Criminals routinely react to police in ways which are guaranteed to worsen their fate. For example, why would any rational person ever resist arrest or engage in a protracted car chase? The odds of improving their situation by doing so is minimal and yet criminals engage in such self-defeating behavior routinely.
Criminals are not rational actors calmly weighing the benefits and risks of their actions. As a group they are impulsive and self-destructive. Drug use exacerbates this problem.
If a cop calmly knocks on the door to non-violently warrant, some meth head whose been tweaking for 3 days straight will think that shooting the officers is a perfectly rational strategy.
Part of the drive towards these lightening no-knock raids comes from cops tired of burying their colleagues after a seemingly low risk situation turned fatal after a suspect did something incredibly stupid.
If I have one criticism of your stellar work on this matter it is the apparent lack of any input from the perspective of law enforcement. You might consider investigating their rationales for employing these dangerous tactics.
|4.17.08 @ 2:56PM|#
If you want to wage war on U.S. Citizens, you've got to expect some casualties.
What laws of war apply in this case?
Are all enemy combatants to be executed because they defend themselves?
I know, the lawyers don't buy this argument of war. But if you really want a WAR, don't concern yourself with body counts. All is fair in love and War.
Just ask John Walters.
Taktix®|4.17.08 @ 3:00PM|#
Part of the drive towards these lightening no-knock raids comes from cops tired of burying their colleagues after a seemingly low risk situation turned fatal after a suspect did something incredibly stupid.
So why don't they wait until said meth-head comes out of the house, then ambush him/her with non-lethal means? I mean, they have to leave the house at some point, even of it's only to get more meth.
Paul|4.17.08 @ 3:05PM|#
Mmmyeah... here's the problem I see with this particular case. When you're conducting an illegal operation in your home, and you shoot at anyone who might be trying to invade such illegal operation, it's hard to foster much sympathy. It seems to me that if you truly are conducting said illegal operation, then you might reasobly expect an invasion by law enforcement personnel. Therefore making the blanket claim "Hey! I didn't know they were police," is the kind of...well, a get out of jail free card, if you will. Of course they're going to claim that.
It's a tough and very narrow line, I'll admit. It certainly does, however, raise (again) the question of the need for no knock raids. See Taktik's comment above.
|4.17.08 @ 3:12PM|#
Part of the drive towards these lightening no-knock raids comes from cops tired of burying their colleagues after a seemingly low risk situation turned fatal after a suspect did something incredibly stupid.
Well if the protection of the cop's well being is the most important consideration, lets just call in an air strike.
Zeb|4.17.08 @ 3:26PM|#
Meth is the Nazi/Hitler of drug policy debates.
Paul|4.17.08 @ 3:38PM|#
Erik Atkinson:
from cops tired of burying their colleagues after a seemingly low risk situation turned fatal after a suspect did something incredibly stupid.
I agree. The alternative now is civilians are now burying their colleagues after the cops do something incredibly stupid.
|4.17.08 @ 3:40PM|#
Zeb,
How reply to this