Jacob Sullum | March 21, 2008
In 2006
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg pushed through a law that bans gun
coloration kits from the city, punishing anyone who uses, buys, or
sells one with up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. The
Daily News
reports that Lauer Custom Weaponry, a Wisconsin company that sells such kits,
is taking revenge by offering the Bloomberg Collection of gun
paints, which includes Manhattan red, Bronx rose, Brooklyn blue,
Queens green, and Staten Island orange. The company also sells a
stencil of Bloomberg's face to decorate gun barrels and a
Bloomberg Collection EZ Camo Kit, which includes stencils to help
you decorate your gun with the image of a brick wall covered by
graffiti. Bloomberg had a good chuckle over it, saying, "If
you take yourself too seriously, politics will kill you." Just
kidding:
An outraged Bloomberg called gun-coloration kits "a tragedy in the making."
"Making a quick buck by coloring a handgun to look like a toy is craven and beneath any honest businessman," Bloomberg told the Daily News. "By coloring these guns, a real one looks like a toy, and a police officer won't be able to tell the difference."
"Imagine an officer who comes upon a teenager pointing a pink gun into a crowd. If the gun is a toy, an innocent teenager may be killed - and others, too.
"Our police officers have a hard enough job as it is, and that's why we passed a law to prevent these deadly tragedies from occurring."
The Daily News seems to accept this rationale, describing Lauer Custom Weaponry as a "company that disguises deadly firearms with bright paints and camouflage" and saying its "products were banned in the city in 2006 because they make dangerous guns look like innocent toys." Which does seem like a pretty disreputable business to be in. Not until the end of the story do we get an inkling that killing kids and cops is not the company's mission:
The bright paints were meant to help rescue workers and range masters locate guns more easily—not fool cops, [company spokesman Toby] Johnson said. They regularly sell the colors named after the boroughs and have even sold "five or six" Bloomberg camo kits, Johnson said.
Women also are big fans of the colors, he added.
"The ladies like it. They fashion their guns after their clothing," Johnson said.
[Thanks to JD for the tip.]
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I'm in favor of any law that prevents deadly tragedies from occurring. I'm told this one does, and that's enough for me.
When I was a lad, toy guns often looked almost exactly like real ones. That's why they were so cool. And, cammo guns have been available for a long time, just looked at a Ruger SR9 automatic the other day which is available in Brushed Stainless, Blackened Stainless, or partial cammo.
Ooops, take that back, it isn't partial cammo afterall, it's
olive drab and black.
A mind is a terrible thing to go to waste.....
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/SR9/
"Imagine an officer who comes upon a teenager with no gun at all
and is all alone. An innocent teenager may be killed."
Now that's closer to the truth.
The sad thing is one of the only people that used these kits in the
city was the police academy for training purposes.
"Imagine an officer who comes upon a teenager pointing a
pink gun into a crowd."
Does that happen a lot in New York? Not the pink part, just the
teenager pointing a gun into a crowd part. He says it as though
this is a regular occurrence. Maybe they should just get less
stupid teenagers.
Does that happen a lot in New York?
No. And does anyone think a gang kid is going to paint his fucking
gat pink in any case?
An outraged Bloomberg called gun-coloration kits "a tragedy
in the making."
I will admit, those guns look pretty gay. But "tragedy" is a bit
strong.
I dunno, as much I as I think people should be able to color
their guns whatever color they choose...the reality is that cops
have an itchy trigger finger as it is. I have seen countless
stories of kids being shot becuase they had something that "looked
like a real gun".
Making real guns look like fake ones seems to exasperate that
problem and will likely change a cops' attitude from "shoot if it
looks real" to "i just cant tell any more -- shoot if it looks
anything like a gun"
Not that the ban is a good solution either
Imagine someone pulling out a wallet to produce ID as instructed being shot 41 times. Imagine how much worse that would be if the wallet were one of those silly brightly colored ones, instead of a plain black or brown leather wallet.
Making real guns look like fake ones seems to exasperate
that problem and will likely change a cops' attitude from "shoot if
it looks real" to "i just cant tell any more -- shoot if it looks
anything like a gun"
Er, Tom, the cops shoot people for holding a TV remote or a coffe
cup. Weapons recognition does not seem to be a strong suit among
LEOs. Didn't the NYPD gun down a guy for getting out his wallet a
couple of years ago?
Also, ChicagoTom, my freedom shouldn't be limited because law enforcement officers are stupid. That's ass backwards.
Also, ChicagoTom, my freedom shouldn't be limited because
law enforcement officers are stupid. That's ass
backwards.
Randolph Carter...did you miss the part where I said :
Not that the ban is a good solution either
Er, Tom, the cops shoot people for holding a TV remote or a
coffe cup. Weapons recognition does not seem to be a strong suit
among LEOs. Didn't the NYPD gun down a guy for getting out his
wallet a couple of years ago?
J sub D. I know and I agree. But the reality is that if the cops
now know that a bright pink toy looking gun MIGHT be real, the
situation will only get worse. They will have more cover for when
they do things like that -- and public outrage will more likely be
more muted.
They will be parading around saying "gun makers make real guns look
like toys...we can't tell any more -- it's not our fault" -- and
the people will agree with them
And again...i dont think the ban is a good way to solve this...but
there is a legitimate concern about the consequences of this
product.
I'm told that real guns make a big scary noise, and sometimes
even have a bright flash that comes out of the end.
Whereas toy guns do not.
"If you take yourself too seriously, politics will kill
you." Just kidding...
I predict a big future in talk radio for La Bloomberg...
Per Scooby and J sub D, the real solution is that there outta be
a law that everything in NYC must be Richard Simmons pink, except
guns. That will make things nice and simple for the NYPD. Shoot
everyone who's holding a not-pink thing.
All fixed, easy peasey rice and cheesy.
....bright pink toy looking gun MIGHT be real, the situation
will only get worse...
Before that can be a valid argument I think we have to look at
LEO's shooting kids with toy guns from say 1950 through 1970 and
see if there was a problem then.
If not, we have to ask why there would be a problem today given
that in my day, toy guns looked pretty real (alluded to in my
comment at 4:54) and they didn't have that stupid orange tip
neither (which for some reason keep vanishing off the ends of all
my boys toy guns--he tells me they "broke" but the incidence of
breakage seems a little steep fro random chance).
"Imagine an officer who comes upon a teenager pointing a
pink gun into a crowd"
Um, I don't know about you guys, but I don't think pink is a
popular color in the gang-banging scene. Maybe they're worried
about teenage girls with guns and a pink fetish? Paris Hilton? Who
are these kids of which they speak.
Personally, I think the color kits should be banned because those
are some God-awful fugly colors. Anyone who would do that to a
perfectly good gun deserves to be fined IMO.
I don't have the link handy, but I came across a website awhile back that (amoung other things) featured a couple of 10 year old girls posing with their pink AR-15s. Fairly surreal.
As long as Nanny Bloomberg continues to wipe my bottom and tickle my footsies, I guess it's okay.
As long as Nanny Bloomberg continues to wipe my bottom and
tickle my footsies, I guess it's okay.
Her silk scarves are sooooo soft.
Doesn't the coloring actually make the guns easier to see? Thus,
wouldn't this make it easier for police to see the gun and thus
potentially stop a crime?
Especially if the cops know that real guns could be colored like
that already?
Cops need to take any real threat seriously, whether someone is
wielding a black gun or a pink gun. But you can still buy toy guns
that are black or silver, so the logic does not follow...
The market will sort this out. Colored guns are ugly. If colored
guns are more likely to get you killed, people will quit buying
them, and manufacturers will quit making them.
Is this where someone is supposed to shout DEMAND KURVE!!
CB
By the way, the company also sells "glow in the dark" paint.
Really, wouldn't requiring that every gun must be glow in the dark
seriously stop some crimes? Harder when everyone can see the gun in
the night. If anything, Bloomberg should be praising this
company.
I kind of like the yellow. It's like a sports car...
What Bloomberg should be concentrating on is cleaning up the steroid problem in the NYPD. Those big fat guts and massive arm mass combinations are as obvious as Barry Bonds' huge head. Once that problem is taken care of the officers will have an easier time disseminating reality where differentiating real and imagined threats is part of their job.
So by banning pink guns does that mean that cops can shoot kids
with squirtguns because they could possibly be an illegally colored
pink weapon?
But black squirtguns are okay... right?
Is there anything you can hold and not get shot by
a cop?
What's new. New Yorkers like big government and that's what they get. They sure didn't mind quartering British troops during the American Revolution.
Right. A gang banger is going to spend sixty bucks and mail order a custom weapon paint set so he can carefully degrease and airbrush his rifle. That sounds a lot more likely than spending three bucks for a can of spray paint.
I thought a gun coloring kit was an Onion gag, like the smoke alarm that emits sounds of the rainforest.
Gun coloration kit.
Never heard of it, probably won't see one anytime soon considering
they're illegal now in my city.
But what they do sounds a lot like... what's that stuff... the name
evades me... oh yeah, paint.
Why not outlaw paint too, since it can do exactly the same thing?
Clearly we the people are not intelligent enough to safely use
paint, so we need Nanny Bloomberg to keep us safe.
You ask and I deliver. From my home town of Las Cruces, N.M.
Saaaaalute!
(c) Any person who owns, manages or operates a place of
business wherein aerosol spray paint in cans is sold, shall secure
said spray paint in a locked or other display area inaccessible to
the public, such as behind a counter.
(d) Any person who violates this section is guilty of a petty
misdemeanor.
(Code 1988, § 21-263; Ord. No. 1663, 5-18-98)
Granted, this only requires merchants to keep spray paint under
lock and key but still...I was utterly baffled the first time I ran
into it.
Kudos to Steve Lauer!!! He not only understands that making a dollar is more important than the welfare of his fellow-man, he lives it! ...I wonder how fast he would yank his product off the market if one of his children were accidently shot by a policeman because he thought the childs toy was real? I wonder if he would still be amused with his publicity?
Is there anything you can hold and not get shot by a cop?
Typical. Black rifles are bad because they look mean. Pink
rifles are bad because they don't.
BTW, this isn't anything new. A lot of the competition shooters
have synthetic or laminated stocks that aren't brown or black. Red,
white, and blue seems popular (in the U.S.), as are team colors and
several other variations. A quick look turned up McMillans.
"Imagine an officer who comes upon a teenager pointing a pink
gun into a crowd. If the gun is a toy, an innocent teenager may be
killed - and others, too.
It takes a lot of imagination to be for gun control. No matter what
the gun folks do, you have to come up with an outrageous reason why
it should be illegal. Apparently the MSM hasn't noticed that out of
dozens of predictions over the last two decades, the hoplophobes
are still batting zero.
Isn't there already a law to solve this problem? It mandates an
orange muzzle for any toy gun.
I'm in favor of any law that prevents deadly tragedies from
occurring. I'm told this one does, and that's enough for
me.
Please cite one such "deadly tragedy" involving one of these
firearms.
"Imagine an officer who comes upon a teenager pointing a pink
gun into a crowd."
Does that happen a lot in New York?
It used to. Well, not the "pointing into a crowd" part. But when I
was in high school teenagers in NYC would carry their rifles on the
subway going back and forth to school, where they participated in
high school shooting programs. Of course, that was before gun-free
zones made everything safer.
Making real guns look like fake ones…
Like they made real (black) phones look like fake ones? Once colors
become available they'll become common, and then will no longer
"look fake."
I don't have the link handy, but I came across a website awhile
back that (amoung other things) featured a couple of 10 year old
girls posing with their pink AR-15s. Fairly surreal.
About halfway
down.
If colored guns are more likely to get you killed, people will
quit buying them, and manufacturers will quit making
them.
Most of these guns will show up on shooting ranges. There pretty
much isn't anyplace you're less likely to get
shot.
If I vandalized a subway with paint from these kits, would the Brooklyn Museum of Art still condone it as outsider art?
ALL ANTI GUN PEOPLE (I USE THAT TERM VERY LOOSLEY) SHOULD LIST TO LARRY THE CABLE GUY. GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, HUSBANDS THAT COME HOME EARLY DO. WHY DO LIBERALS FIND IT SO OFFENSIVE WHEN A MAN FINDS A LEGAL WAY TO MAKE A LIVING. MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT BANNING THE MANUFACTURING OF THE BAD PEOPLE WHO MAKE TOY GUNS INSTEAD. THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME, AS I DO NOT LET MY KIDS PLAY WITH GUNS (THEY SHOOT THEM) . I REFUSE TO LET THEM RUN OVER PEOPLE WITH THEIR TONKA TRUCKS TOO. MAYBE WE SHOULD BAN TONKA TRUCKS TOO.
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