Jesse Walker | January 16, 2008
The Sunday Times describes plans for yet another bizarre proprietary community in Dubai -- a reproduction of Lyons:
Inspiration struck [Dubai businessman Saeed] al-Gandhi while he was drawing up plans to build a French-language university in Dubai in partnership with the University of Lyons. Not wanting to be outdone by Abu Dhabi, another Arab emirate, which has announced it will build its own version of the Louvre, al-Gandhi hit upon the idea of "Lyons-Dubai City", as the new metropolis will be known, or "Lyons's oriental little sister", as they call it in the French town hall.
Lyons and Dubai had already signed a "pact of cooperation and friendship" but al-Gandhi's idea adds a new twist to twinning: the new Lyons will cover an area of about 700 acres, roughly the size of the Latin Quarter of Paris, and will contain squares, restaurants, cafes and museums.
Al-Gandhi could have picked a worse place. Famed as the home of gastronomy and the birthplace of cinema, Lyons sits between two of France's best-known wine-growing regions. Even so, Dubai is unlikely to want to copy the decrepit tower blocks that ring the real city, symbols of the urban violence that periodically plagues France.
For more from reason on Dubai's building boom, go here and here.
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Matt Welch is a vile racist.
I'm confused, it just sounds like a development project.
What's the weird part?
I'm guessing that this has to do with it:
Even so, Dubai is unlikely to want to copy the decrepit tower
blocks that ring the real city, symbols of the urban violence that
periodically plagues France.
Maybe the irony of reproducing a French city surrounded by
primarily Muslim/Arab slum ghettos in a Muslim Arab country?
Or am I just reaching?
I'm confused, it just sounds like a development project.
What's the weird part?
That this entry isn't about the Ron Paul newsletters.
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Matt Welch is a vile racist.
I'm confused, it just sounds like a development project.
What's the weird part?
It's a furries-only community.
Tough crowd. You don't think building a reproduction of Lyons in the Middle East is a little strange?
Meanwhile , out at the World Archipelago construction site, offshore from the UAE's 'Disneyland Lite'. how much do they want for the caffeine free crystal diet island of Utah ?
Jesse -
it's the perfect scenario for DUNDEROOO. He'd imagine Froggie
socialism in the midst of Islamofascism.
just mention secular education and "socialized medicine", and
you'll really nail him :)
You don't think building a reproduction of Lyons in the
Middle East is a little strange?
Not when Las Vegas has a mini-me verson of Egypt, Venice and New
York within the same 2 square miles.
This is supposed to be more elaborate than that. But for the record, I think Las Vegas is a little strange, too.
You don't think building a reproduction of Lyons in the
Middle East is a little strange?
There's a 1/3 scale reproduction of a Parisian tower in Ashland,
Virginia.
And pseudo-bavarian village in Tidewater.
So, no, not really
"Tough crowd. You don't think building a reproduction of Lyons
in the Middle East is a little strange?"
No stranger than building an indoor ski run in the middle of the
desert with hopes of someday fielding an olympic ski team. I
watched an episode of Build It Bigger on that thing. It is amazing.
You have to give the Dubaiites (or is it Dubaiis?) credit. They
have a lot of money but they sure spend it in style.
Of course it's strange. Disney has built miniature versions of
famous cities, and at one point planned on building a replica of
Key West in Orlando. But these are theme park gimmicks for people
trying to escape the real world. Al-Gandhi's plan looks like he
wants to build a regular, day-to-day development.
Building a whole neighborhood for the purpose of escaping reality
is, to me, strange.
You don't think building a reproduction of Lyons in the
Middle East is a little strange?
Why not? They seem to be reproducing the Middle East around
Lyon.
You know, if they built a replica of the city of Tours, France in the United States in a decidedly less windy+humid+cold climate, I would totally move there.
Jesse, I'm originally from Las Vegas; I guess that's why it
didn't strike me as strange.
if i were a developer, i'd replica This:
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=118166
it's spelled Lyon, not Lyons.
In English it's "Lyons" -- kind of like "Lisbon" and "Lisboa."
What would really freak Jesse out is a mini-Vegas in Dubai . . . especially going the mini-Luxor inside that mini-Vegas.
You don't think building a reproduction of Lyons in the
Middle East is a little strange?
I live in Florida, home of Disney World.
Nothing is strange to me.
I think Ayn Rand would love this concept. I guess I find it inspiring (less than she would). Guess this says something about the median reader of the magazine. :)
There's a 1/3 scale reproduction of a Parisian tower in
Ashland, Virginia.
That's Doswell, not Ashland. I believe the foundation is
full-scale, but they've reduced the height by 2/3.
Tough crowd.
You expected different? Who are you and what have you done with the
real JW?
Maybe the irony of reproducing a French city surrounded by
primarily Muslim/Arab slum ghettos in a Muslim Arab
country?
Schweet! Episiarch wins the thread.
And everyone drink because you won't be able to do that in
Lyons-on-the-Gulf.
Ah, you're right King's Dominion is in Doswell (for that matter, it *is* Doswell). I think the sign for the exit off the interstate might have had Ashland on it or something like that
And everyone drink because you won't be able to do that in Lyons-on-the-Gulf.
Tell that to all the UAE "liquor license" owners who can go to
Spinneys and other stores to buy their own. Or they can just go to
the hotel down the street and have anything they want at one of the
fine restaurants inside.
The Iraqis drink to. The no drinking thing is really more of a Saudi thing. Dubai, although hotter than the third plane of hell, is reputed to be a pretty interesting place and not a bad place. If you could just get rid of the jhihadists, the middle east would be great. It has a lot of very endearing qualities. There is a reason why the old British stiff upper lip colonials like Lawrence used to go native all the time.
Dubai is kitschy as hell, and as a result is kinda creepy, but
fascinating. The traffic is absolutely hellacious.
Of course, like any city, it has its secrets that the officials
would rather not have the tourists see. Fer instance, the labor
riots in October...and the ridiculous skyrocketing cost of
living...and the massive disparities in income (puts all the
whining about the US in crystal clear perspective).
On top of that, it's possibly the brownest, most
depressing-looking-yet-sunny inhabited place on earth. At least Abu
Dhabi has some greenery, even if it's due to the world's most
wasteful irrigation system.
"It has a lot of very endearing qualities. There is a reason why
the old British stiff upper lip colonials like Lawrence used to go
native all the time."
Yeah, but, like, do you get to see boobies and stuff there?
Oooops. My goof. Didn't Lawrence bat for the other team? Maybe he didn't need boobies and stuff.
"On top of that, it's possibly the brownest, most
depressing-looking-yet-sunny inhabited place on earth."
That distinction belongs to Kuwait, a country without a single
natural body of water. The other problem the gulf states have is
that whole concept that you pick up your garbage and put it in a
dump rather than throwing it around the countryside seems to have
escaped them.
"Oooops. My goof. Didn't Lawrence bat for the other team? Maybe
he didn't need boobies and stuff."
There were rumors that he might have enjoyed being tortured by the
Turks a little more than he let on, but nothing more. I don't think
he actually batted for the other side.
Didn't Lawrence bat for the other team?
The Lawrence of Texas did, not sure about the one of Arabia
The Lawrence of Texas did, not sure about the one of
Arabia
Groan. Good one.
There is certainly some suspicion that TE Lawrence was gay, but
it's never been proved definitively. He did like being beaten,
though. That he got men to beat him may have been more about
practicality than preference.
Speaking of being beaten, he went to Jesus College. Not sure if he majored in being beaten.
In English it's "Lyons"
Dammit.
Why not? They seem to be reproducing the Middle East around
Lyon Lyons.
Fixed.
You gotta hand it to those Emirs. I'd have bet that you could never make Vegas work without all the booze, gambling, and sex, but they're doing it.
There's version of a swiss village in China
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