Katherine Mangu-Ward | November 13, 2007
For those
who were worried that Rupert Murdoch's evil global news empire was
going to corrupt The Wall Street Journal:
News Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch said Tuesday he intends to make access to The Wall Street Journal's Web site free, trading subscription fees for anticipated ad revenue.
"We are studying it and we expect to make that free, and instead of having one million (subscribers), having at least 10 million-15 million in every corner of the earth," Murdoch said.
The horror!
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Murdock doesn't matter. The WSJ started going downhill the day they printed in color.
Taktix® -
The quality of a newspaper is inversly proportional to the quantity
of it's color printing.
The WSJ's opinion section already reflects a FOX-friendly
embrace of Facism (Balko contributions excepted, at both
companies).
I'm always surprised (and saddened) when I read another "Don't
Question Torture or it Will Cost Lives!" piece.
The concerns about Rupert Foxifying the WSJ's news section had
nothing to do with distribution, but with content.
C'mon, Kerry, draw us a map. How does the elimination of the
registration fee prove wrong the people who warned that Murdoch
would turn the paper's news section into a propaganda organ?
joe I would argue that all the MSM newspapers are propaganda organs for our government. "Liberal" and "Conservative" yellow journalism for all.
Joe,
How's about addressing the correct Reasonoid when you ask for
clarification?
Kwix, don't interrupt joe when he's attacking his ideological enemies, he might accuse you of being partisan.
As a Greenish-American, I tenatively support Murdoch on the
grounds that he can't possibly make the WSJ any more
psycho-conservative, but he does believe in climate change, and
will hopefully send CO2-shills like Iain Murray packing.
Also, their personal finance section is surprisingly useful.
Straight up the WSJ usually has more interesting articles than just about any other major newspaper so this is a good thing!
One of the few redeeming habits of Jay Severin (liberventionist talk show host here in Boston) is calling USA Today "McPaper". I started using that one a few years ago, and everyone laughs when I explain it the first time. :-)
DannyK don't believe in Homogreeneity (noun): The myth that the scientific community has reached a consensus that: (1) the planet is experiencing an unprecedented period of warming; (2) it is dangerous; (3) it is man-made; and, (4) government regulation and increased bureaucracy is the only appropriate response.
Seriously, can anybody make sense of the claim that Murdoch's
change of the online registration system refutes the claim that
he's going to Foxify the WSJ news section?
Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller?
Yeah, I don't see the connection either, joe.
That said, I see the WSJ as just another arm of the establishment
media. Sure, the opinion section is more conservative than (say)
the Boston Globe or the NYT, but it's still fervently
pro-establishment and pro-state.
Until there's a rag with those subscription numbers that reads like
lewrockwell.com, I will be unmoved by any change in management.
How does the elimination of the registration fee prove wrong
the people who warned that Murdoch would turn the paper's news
section into a propaganda organ?
Assuming this is true, their news coverage will change from being a
pale copy of the NYT to being a pale copy of Faux News. What
squarerooticus said about establishment media organs.
I suspect the people who are most concerned about this (even more
so than fair.org) are the editors at Investor's Business Daily,
whose news deptartment is already a pale copy of Faux News (or they
were the last time I read it).
If you think there's an unserved print market for progressives
worried about their stock portfolios, joe, you can always start the
Utne Investor or Mother Buffet or something.
Actually, I agree with joe on this one that an open model is a
trend towards Foxification of a sort.
The WSJ news section has always been elitist (and I mean that as a
compliment). Fox news has always been populist. By having to rely
more on ad revenue rather than subscriptions, there may (and I
stress *may*) be a tendency to dumb down the reporting to a lower
common denominator.
However, this is just an untested hypothesis. We will have to see
and compare actual 'before and after' reporting to see if Murdoch
had a positive, negative or negligible effect. (My money at this
point would be on negligible)
That wasn't actually my point. I was saying the looser
registration requirement had nothing at all to do with the concerns
about the WSJ's news section becoming another propaganda arm of the
Republican Party.
But that's a good point you raise.
By having to rely more on ad revenue rather than subscriptions, there may (and I stress *may*) be a tendency to dumb down the reporting to a lower common denominator.
I think the ad revenue model requires dumbing down
the news, as it will be necessary to grab the McEyeballs (does
McEyeballs work?.....)
That wasn't actually my point. I was saying the looser
registration requirement had nothing at all to do with the concerns
about the WSJ's news section becoming another propaganda arm of the
Republican Party.
First, our propaganda arms will embrace you.
Then, when you are lulled into a feeling of security we will crush
you like an empty milk carton!
I see the WSJ as just another arm of the establishment media. Sure, the opinion section is more conservative than (say) the Boston Globe or the NYT, but it's still fervently pro-establishment and pro-state.
WSJ's Opinion section is very pro-state with a
militaristic-nanny-state bent, whereas (all of) the NYT is
very pro-state with a motherly-nanny-state bent.
Both suck, but at least the WSJ contains useful market data and
news.
One thing about the W$J: A lot of people (like me) have to read it every day as part being good at our jobs. Either we shell out the bucks ourselves or our employers pay for it. We need a source that has timely, detailed, and knowledgeable business coverage. Right now, WSJ is by far the best provider of that coverage. It can almost charge as much as it wants for our subscriptions. If it's business coverage becomes mediocre, our dollars will be available for a competitor.
Old English Proverb:
"I'm not rich enough to buy inexpensive things"
WSJ was only worthwhile when it had the credibility to provide
accurate information.
One constant of good old Rupert is that he morphs anything he buys
morphs into a new thing that has 'synergy' (one man's synergy is
another man's tit for tat) and all of a sudden becomes something
completely his Sky Satellite system in UK, Fox Corporation in
US.
So OMG! you mean I can get propaganda for FREE???? Awesome!
Go NeoCapitalism!
I won't be renewing my subscription needless to say.
I hope another news source will fill in the gap, anyone have any
suggestions for a good unbiased reporting on the markets?
It is rather amusing to see people who have clearly never read,
or at least do not frequently read, the Wall Street
Jouranl spout of opinions about what the paper is or
isn't.
The Journal's editorial page is many things, but pro-state
it is not. The editorial page is in near lockstep with
reason on the issues of markets, taxation, and
especially immigration.
And the Journal's news reporting has the same causal
liberal assumption bias that the Washington Post and the
New York Times have. In fact
two researchers from UCLA reported that of the 20 news outlets
they studied, the Journal was the most liberal.
How does the elimination of the registration fee prove wrong
the people who warned that Murdoch would turn the paper's news
section into a propaganda organ?
It doesn't. And, furthermore, you were perfectly justified in
throwing a tantrum about our lack of prompt acknowledgement of your
brilliance.
Why is it that I have the feeling that if Murdoch turned the WSJ into a mouthpiece for the Republican party a new newspaper would spring up immediately covering the markets and driving the WSJ out of business? Does the WSJ's ownership of Dow Jones really give them enough clout to overcome a new daily covering the markets in a balanced fashion?
"Why is it that I have the feeling that if Murdoch turned the
WSJ into a mouthpiece for the Republican party a new newspaper
would spring up immediately covering the markets and driving the
WSJ out of business? Does the WSJ's ownership of Dow Jones really
give them enough clout to overcome a new daily covering the markets
in a balanced fashion?"
Considering that all of the papers I've read on the subject
(admittedly few) conclude that media bias is determined in good
part by demand, I wouldn't be surprised.
Thank you S. A. Miller, the people around here don't consider the facts. When they hear WSJ they automatically assume it leans conservative. But if they would think about it, what are the odds a newspaper published in blue New York City is going to be conservative? I find the political news section some of the most left baised tripe anywhere. One day they will piss me off enough to cancel my subscription, but the business news and the editorials are too good to miss.
How does the elimination of the registration fee prove wrong
the people who warned that Murdoch would turn the paper's news
section into a propaganda organ?
If you can identify "news" as propaganda, then it isn't very
effective propaganda. You're immune to it. It's futile. Maybe joe
is referring to lesser intellects who cannot tell the difference
between news and propaganda. This is odd, as joe is a man of the
masses, not an elitist.
he can't possibly make the WSJ any more
psycho-conservative
Written by someone who obviously doesn't read the WSJ with any
regularity.
One of the interesting things about the WSJ is the obvious
divergence between their editorial and reporting. The former leans
right, the latter, to the extent it exhibits any ideology at all,
is fairly conventional squishy-lib.
It is rather amusing to see people who have clearly never read, or at least do not frequently read, the Wall Street Jouranl spout of opinions about what the paper is or isn't.
The Journal's editorial page is many things, but pro-state it is not. The editorial page is in near lockstep with reason on the issues of markets, taxation, and especially immigration.
That is complete bullshit.
I do have a subscription and have seen many many editorials spewing
"Don't Question Evesdropping, or People Will Die" and "Don't
Question Torture, or People Will Die".
Have you seen the editorial section? Once in a while it is
speckeled with reason, but that is not the norm.
LibertyPlease, your examples don't refute the assertion that
"The editorial page is in near lockstep with reason on the issues
of markets, taxation, and especially immigration."
They also don't address the assertion that the paper is pretty
conventional squishy-lib on every other page.
One of the interesting things about the WSJ is the obvious
divergence between their editorial and reporting. The former leans
right, the latter, to the extent it exhibits any ideology at all,
is fairly conventional squishy-lib.
I've noticed this, too. Frankly, the op-ed page is one of the least
important parts of any newspaper. I mean, every asshole has an
opinion, right? But substantive news coverage, particularly of the
business world, is something that the WSJ has a near-monopoly on in
the USA. I've never read another newspaper that had even
half-decent coverage of business and markets--in fact, I think the
biz page is seen as a bit of a 'ghetto' at other papers, with the
political beat being the elite one. Which is sad, considering that
what goes on in the business world is, and should be, a lot more
important to our daily lives.
In line with my previous thought: Could News Corp. fuck up the WSJ? Sure. But hopefully they appreciate the financial value of keeping such a unique asset, well, unique.
R C Dean | November 14, 2007, 11:57am | #
LibertyPlease, your examples don't refute the assertion that "The editorial page is in near lockstep with reason on the issues of markets, taxation, and especially immigration."
er, if you look again you'll see I italicized S.A. Miller's
assertion that "..but pro state it is not". It is
frequently, dramatically pro state on the issues of torture,
spying, the unitary executive, suspension of habeas corpus,
extrodinary rendition, etc, etc, etc. They do agree with reason
about markets though.... good point.
Which is sad, considering that what goes on in the business
world is, and should be, a lot more important to our daily
lives.
True that. I always read the Business section before the
headlines.
By the way, for anybody who wants to have success at invidual
investing, eschew all the day trading bullshit and short-term
business gossip and join the NAIC (better-investing.org). The
smartest thing you can do with your money is to take some NAIC
investing classes and study their Better Investing
magazine like a bible.
The concerns about Rupert Foxifying the WSJ's news section
had nothing to do with distribution, but with content.
So the WSJ turns from a paper you disagree with into a paper you
disagree with...why do you care again joe?
concerns about the WSJ's news section becoming another
propaganda arm of the Republican Party.
I like how making money (like billions) is for the purpose of
political manipulation....but not, you know, to make billions.
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