Nick Gillespie | August 21, 2007
In the Wash Post, Allan Sloan of Fortune has a sharp piece about double standards when it comes to bailing out big economic players vs. smaller borrowers:
Wall Street loves to talk about letting financial markets weed out the weak. But when the Street itself gets in trouble, it sticks out its little tin cup, asking for help. And gets it.
The meltdown in the subprime mortgage market is a classic example of the way the small fry gets devoured, but the whales of Wall Street get rescued. Here's the deal: People with crummy credit who took out mortgages are being allowed to fail in record numbers. The mortgage companies that made those loans are being allowed to fail.
The Street itself? It's bailout city. Even before the Fed made a symbolic half-point cut in the discount rate, it and other central banks from Switzerland to Singapore were trying to rescue the Street by injecting hundreds of billions of dollars into the financial markets and announcing they would put up more, if needed.
Hello? If you believe in markets, which I do, this rescue is especially galling, because Wall Street enabled this mess in the first place. How so? By happily sucking up hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of suspect mortgages from marginal U.S. borrowers -- and begging mortgage makers to create more of them....
But the world's central banks aren't letting the big guys fail. Think of it as the Escape of the Enablers. The reason this is happening, of course, is the same reason that the Fed orchestrated a bailout of the infamous Long-Term Capital Management hedge fund a decade ago -- and about 20 years ago didn't close some of the nation's biggest banks, even though they were effectively insolvent because unrealized losses had wiped out their capital.
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Great time to post Mad Money Cramer holding out his hand. Truly,
must see TV.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=452808336&play=1
Yeah, it's crummy, but a true credit crunch is a sure-fire way to kick off a recession or a depression, for that matter.
Correct if me if Im wrong, but this is not a bailout in the usual sense of the word, they are injecting money and the fed is dropping the rate inorder to battle a perceived liquidity problem, trying to calm the market and offset some of the uncertainty in the market. The small borower is not being bailed out either because they have defaulted on the loan, wall street is being 'bailed' out because it has not really defaulted on anything yet.
Welfare is still welfare when it is give to corporations. I have lost 11% during this correction, but I think the market as a whole would be more stable if there were consequences when players take excessive risk.
What de stijl and val said. A credit crunch would have
repercussions all the way down to the little guys--mortgage rates
would go way up, 401Ks way down, and everybody except Gillespie
would be miserable.This wasn't a bail out, rather it was an
acceptable use of Fed powers. There are still plenty of
consequences--the hedge funds that got burned and their parent
companies have NOT been bailed out, if you will notice.
Markets, contrary to much of what's said here, can be extremely
emotional in the short run. In the long run, of course, they are
wonderful things. But the damage done when the fear or greed meter
hits '11' can be devastating. The Fed is trying to avoid that.
See, that is the thing:
Everyone can justify, in the short term, why bailing out these big
corporations is a good idea. Of course, the long term effect is to
teach the corporations that they can lend frivilously, behave
irresponsibly, and someone will bail them out.
It might have negative effects on the economy if we let these
corporations fail. It *SHOULD* have a negative effect on the
economy if we let these corporations fail. And in the future, maybe
mortgage companies will lend more carefully.
Welfare is still welfare when it is give to corporations.
Welfare for corporations is even worse than welfare for people.
With welfare for people, it is the welfare recipients who are most
devistated by welfare - Welfare for the poor is designed as a way
of removing power from the poor and keeping them dependent and
obedient to a specific political party. Welfare recipients are
punished by having their communities destoyed by 'welfare', and
becoming vote slaves. No one in their right mind desires to be on
welfare, it is a trap sprung on those in poverty who have no
choice.
Corporations, on the other hand, make a profit from corporate
welfare. Unlike welfare for the poor, corporate welfare isn't
designed to oppress the corporations. Welfare for corporations is
nothing but the benefit for corporations.
A bailout is a bailout. The same practical effect would happen
if the government would pay the loans. Of course, the poor are
deadbeats. Since it's a perceived liquidity risk, there would be
short-term turmoil and then a shakeout, but the markets would fix
themselves as conservatives, like Buffett, soak up great deal. It's
painful, but that's capitalism.
The long term consequence of this is that without these sorts of
failures and knowledge of a bailout, firms are going to continue to
take high risk investments and we'll have to deal with this all
over again. We need to take short term pain for long term
stability.
"Capitalism without failure is like religion without sin, it just
doesn't work."
I largely agree with Rex. "But something bad might happen" is not an excuse to bail out big lenders/business. Bad investments should not be rewarded.. that sets up an incentive structure that we most definitely don't want.
I'm not saying I disagree with the gist of this piece,
but...
"The Street itself? It's bailout city. Even before the Fed made
a symbolic half-point cut in the discount rate, it and other
central banks from Switzerland to Singapore were trying to rescue
the Street by injecting hundreds of billions of dollars into the
financial markets and announcing they would put up more, if
needed."
I'm not so sure injecting liquidity is the same thing as a
"bailout". ...that's a fishy use of that term in this
context.
"By happily sucking up hundreds of billions of dollars' worth
of suspect mortgages from marginal U.S. borrowers -- and begging
mortgage makers to create more of them...."
Everybody was supposed to have been able to predict the future in
hindsight. ...especially when there's blood in the streets.
I suspect we haven't heard the last of the accusations against some
of the ratings agencies, and I'll bet the rating agencies have a
likely candidate to point a finger at too. But regardless of who's
to blame, no one's to blame for not being able to predict the
future.
I didn't expect to see someone condemning Wall Street for finding
ways to extend credit to people who don't deserve it
never had access to it before. ...in a piece about not screwing the
little guy.
If Wall Street found a way to extend credit to people of little
means and confine the losses, mostly, to loan originators and
speculators, then Wall Street should be getting a pat on the
back.
There is no such thing as an economy in a permanent "boom"
cycle. Recessions are necessary to clear out bad investments. The
Fed's actions have merely postponed the adjustment and will make
the recession when it ultimately [and inevitably] comes.
The only beneficiaries of this are the Wall Street fat cats. The
poor working stiff will wind up carrying the can.
@ 11:11 AM Should read:
The Fed's actions have merely postponed the adjustment and will
make the recession worse when it
ultimately [and inevitably] comes.
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Ken Schultz
I didn't expect to see someone condemning Wall Street for
finding ways to extend credit to people who don't deserve
it never had access to it before. ...in a piece about not
screwing the little guy.
As a former banker, I can tell you that the very worst thing you
can do to someone creditwise is to give them a loan they can't pay
back. Inability to meet payments has caused more divorces,
heartbreak and suicides than any other cause.
"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen
nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual
expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."
-Mr. Micauber in David Copperfield; Charles Dickens
No "bailout" is happening in the true sense of the word -
Countrywide is not getting a lump of cash from the Fed. Hedge funds
are being allowed to fail. Mortgage companies that were subprime
heavy are being allowed to fail - many already have. Countrywide
got an $11 billion loan last week but it still may fail.
From Reuters:
The Federal Reserve added $19 billion in temporary funds to the banking system through the purchase of mortgage-backed securities to help meet demand for cash amid a rout in bonds backed by home loans to riskier borrowers.
The Fed accepted only mortgage-backed debt as collateral for this morning's weekend repurchase agreement. Losses in U.S. subprime mortgage investments have been rippling through global credit markets, driving interest rates higher and sinking share prices. The Fed also added $24 billion yesterday, the most since April, as demand for cash increased.
They are basically trying to avert a credit crunch in Mortgage
Backed Securities by injecting liquidity into the market by
purchasing MBS's from firms trying to sell them.
Ken,
There's a reason Wall Street was getting outsized returns on their
investments, there's a lot of risk involved. If I went out tomorrow
and sold a call that was waaaay out of the money. If I have pay out
a lot because of it doesn't mean that it's my fault that something
highly unlikely happened. Same with these guys, the fact that a lot
of these loans went bad wasn't a surprise, neither was the flight
to quality that happened afterwards. They shouldn't get sympathy
for investments that went bad.
No "bailout" is happening in the true sense of the word
...
They are basically trying to avert a credit crunch in Mortgage
Backed Securities by injecting liquidity into the market by
purchasing MBS's from firms trying to sell them.
Sounds like the firms holding MBSes are being bailed out.
Sounds like the firms holding MBSes are being bailed
out.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on what the word bailout
means, then.
Sounds like the firms holding MBSes are being bailed
out.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on what the word bailout
means, then.
So if those MBSes go bad while the Fed holds them, who is left
holding the bag?
Whether it a "bailout" in the truest sense of the word, the Feds
actions are creating a moral hazard.
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2007/08/fed-treads-mora.html
"As a former banker, I can tell you that the very worst
thing you can do to someone creditwise is to give them a loan they
can't pay back. Inability to meet payments has caused more
divorces, heartbreak and suicides than any other cause."
I see the same logic used to support the Drug War.
So if those MBSes go bad while the Fed holds them, who is
left holding the bag?
Is this a rhetorical question?
Look, it's clear you want to call it a bailout and I do not.
I see the same logic used to support the Drug
War.
Except no one is trying to make subprime loans illegal. Just that
they're a bad idea. I think even drug war opponents would say the
same thing about drug abuse.
They are basically trying to avert a credit crunch in
Mortgage Backed Securities by injecting liquidity into the market
by purchasing MBS's from firms trying to sell them.
I've got a 1993 Mazda that I can't get anyone to buy at my full
purchase price. Will the Fed buy it from me? As described, that
wouldn't be a bailout either.
There is a great deal of confusion here. First, the Federal
Reserve ("The Fed") uses open market operations ALL THE TIME to
keep short term interest rates near the "Fed Funds Target
Rate."
The Fed's Open Market Operations consist of accepting collateral (a
Mortgage Backed Security, for example) from a bank, giving the bank
cash (minus a haircut), with the bank agreeing to buy back the bond
at a later date (maybe even the next day). This is referred to as a
repurchase agreement or a "Repo." It is not unusual for the Fed, or
any other bank, to engage in Repo transactions using MBS. The MBS
that the Fed accepts are Prime, Conventional MBS that are
guaranteed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. These are high quality
borrowers and loans (less than 417k loan size + 80% LTV or mortgage
insurance). These are NOT subprime mortgages.
In recent days, banks became fearful that their peers would not be
able to pay back their short -term loans because of the uncertainty
surrounding what banks have what exposure to subprime mortgages. As
a result, the interbank lending rates soared far above the Fed's
target rate.
The Fed, along with the European Central Bank (ECB) "injected
liquidity" by transacting more in the Repo market: they simply lent
more money in that market to bring the short term borrowing rates
for banks down to their target.
These actions ARE NOT bailing out any of the mortgage lenders or
the players in the subprime market. They simply maintained the
short term interbank lending that is crucial to the financial
system.
My personal view is that the Fed should be abolished, but that is
beside the point here.
"Except no one is trying to make subprime loans illegal.
Just that they're a bad idea. I think even drug war opponents would
say the same thing about drug abuse."
I understand there are plenty of people who want to regulate
subprime loans. ...and I'm not so sure subprimes are a bad idea for
everybody.
My understanding is that more than 85% of those are still
performing--and I don't think that includes all the subprimes who
managed to refi.
Calling it a "bailout" makes it sound more scary.
It's inaccurate, as the Fed is simply making short-term (try "Three
day") loans (and yes, these loans include interest) and taking
those securities as collateral.
Sure, it's possible some bank my default -- but the Fed wasn't
loaning to tiny banks, and banks aren't the ones with the real
problem.
If the Feds were making this deal directly to Hedge funds and some
of the stupider mortgage companies, then they'd have a high risk of
default and I'd call that more of a bailout.
But making three day loans, complete with interest, is a "bailout"?
Jesus, the torture some of you put the English language
through.
"These actions ARE NOT bailing out any of the mortgage
lenders or the players in the subprime market. They simply
maintained the short term interbank lending that is crucial to the
financial system."
They apparently are accepting subprime as (highly discounted)
collateral at the discount window.
...but that's not really a "bailout" as far as I'm concerned.
Welfare for corporations is even worse than welfare for
people. With welfare for people, it is the welfare recipients who
are most devistated by welfare - Welfare for the poor is designed
as a way of removing power from the poor and keeping them dependent
and obedient to a specific political party.
How do you figure? How can it be bad for someone if you're not
taking away any of their options, but simply giving them money
(which expands the person's range of economic options)? And if
welfare for people does hurt the poor, wouldn't that make
it worse than welfare for corporations?
As a former banker, I can tell you that the very worst thing
you can do to someone creditwise is to give them a loan they can't
pay back. Inability to meet payments has caused more divorces,
heartbreak and suicides than any other cause.
I see your point. The counterpoint, I guess, is that its better to
give the person the benefit of the doubt: assume that they know
what they're doing when they take out the loan, have some
reasonable idea of how they will pay it back, and benefit from
having some money sooner rather than later.
I think the best solution is to educate people more about
responsible credit usage, rather than have a working presumption
that people will take out loans they can't repay if given the
chance. Of course, a lender that wants to stay in business may have
no choice but to have that presumption for some people with bad
credit/low income/whatever.
As for the topic of this thread, I'm not sure what the fed should
do. I don't have a problem with large lenders who made overly-risky
loans losing money or going out of business. I don't think the Fed
should assume the risk associated with questionable mortgages just
to take the pressure off Wall Street lenders. But I don't
necessarily have a problem with them lowering the discount rate or
making loans to companies that are only slightly involved
with the subprime mess and have enough loans in good standing to be
viable in the long run.
"It's inaccurate, as the Fed is simply making short-term
(try "Three day") loans (and yes, these loans include interest) and
taking those securities as collateral."
My understanding is that it's been extended to 30 days for the time
being.
The discount window carries a different rate and has different
rules about collateral:
http://www.frbdiscountwindow.org/pledging.cfm?genid=13&desc=Pledging%20Collateral&url=pledging.cfm
Just throwing it out there as a suggestion, Mr. Gillespie, and I
hope I'm not offending anyone who's already been assigned this task
if I haven't noticed...
I know that everybody at Reason is a little bit econ and a little
bit rock & roll, but Reason could use someone devoted to
financial markets, someone who does for financial markets coverage
what Bailey does for science and what Sullum does for the War on
Drugs.
If Reason had somebody that took financial (rather than econ)
issues and made the freedom hugging, libertarian argument both
plain as day and compelling for ordinary folk, well that would be
super duper.
I suppose that would be a really challenging job, but if a
journalist is lookin' for a libertarian issue to cover, being pro
sub-prime and anti-bailout should make him or her unpopular with
just about everybody, and isn't that what being a libertarian
journalist is all about?
What Bernanke and the rest are trying to do is not so much "bail
out" the system as to keep the damn system liquid. Everyone has
frozen up on commercial paper (see stampede into Treasuries)
because nobody now trusts the labels any more, nor do they know
what is in the commercial paper. That's the problem--unknown risks
inherent in black box financial products. And people are just now
realizing that the ratings mean jack sh*t. A "AAA" on a gov't bond
now means something entirely different from a "AAA" on a CDO.
Ooops....
Second, everyone is terrified that there are all these undiscovered
grenades lying around tied to commercial paper just waiting to
explode, especially with the predicted resetting of the ARMs.
The whole thing will unwind, but it's going to take time. All those
wonderfully complicated CDOs etc are going to have to be broken up
and the prices and ratings explained. Either that, or the sellers
of such instruments will have to discount heavily in order to move
the stuff, given the unknown values and the unknown risks now
inherent.
This isn't rocket science. Anyone with a little brain could have
seen this coming. I and my business partner got out of the hedge
fund we were invested in because we saw this coming down the pike.
Anyone who has a strong stomach for risk can do a little research,
pick over the pile of dross, and judiciously pick up undervalued
commercial paper in a few weeks. (Wouldn't suggest right now,
because the stuff still hasn't reset to a real price yet.)
CDOs won't be "broken up," they already have financing for the
life of the fund. They might yield losses for the lower rated
investors, but they won't be "broken up."
If you wait weeks to get into CP, you're going to miss the
boat.
It's inaccurate, as the Fed is simply making short-term (try
"Three day") loans (and yes, these loans include interest) and
taking those securities as collateral.
Try getting a 3 day payday loan and see what interest rate you get
on it. Same thing, completely different interest rate.
After I graduated from graduate school and before I got my first
paycheck from my job, I was limping along on the last bits of my
savings. I had substantial funds guaranteed to me on a set date
(due to a contract). I also had a liquidity shortage and a 7 year
old car. I would've loved to let someone borrow my car for a price
no one would pay (the KBB price), waited until I got my first
paycheck and then paid, essentially a risk free rate. But I didn't,
I sucked it up, survived a few weeks living lean and got through
it.
No one trust a lot of highly rated paper, not because people are
afraid to lend, but because they use complex accounting to mix and
match all sorts of asset classes on their balance sheet. They are
being penalized for lack of transparency and uncertainty. IF GE
offered a collateral back loan on a piece of machinery with
explicit terms, they would have little problem getting debt. If
people are refusing to lend to transparent, highly credit worthy
borrowers, like any of the AAA guys being, there is a lending
opportunity for other people.
I don't see why this argument works on why free markets work to
stop discrimination, fix health care, etc, but not in financial
markets.
As said, if they can't break up the CDOs, they're going to have
to discount them heavily to move them.
All those financial black boxes getting traded back and forth in a
game of Pass The Parcel. Now the players are discovering it's more
like a game of Hot Potato.
I wonder how long it will be before CP starts moving again. The
markets seem to have already priced in a 1.25% rate cut (according
to the FT.) Now the question is whether Bernanke et al. are
actually going to go ahead and do it. Rate cuts can't do much about
lack of transparency in financial instruments, which is where the
real problem lies.
I do hope however that someone starts a class-action suit against
the rating agencies and starts cracking them open. Either they
should be forced to stand behind their ratings or stop slapping AAA
on everything.
I think there is a time limit here.
Ultimately those failed mortgages are worth the homes behind them.
Yeah, it's tough to liquidate a home right now, especially with no
activity in the subprime sector, and homes, like everything else,
are priced on the margin.
...but there are only about 9 months of inventory out there, and
home builders have been slowing down their activity. The available
inventory did shrink last time around, and prices will have a
bottom, where that is in some markets is an open question, but in
others, they may have found it already.
Still, some mortgages are yet to reset, and that could bring more
inventory back onto the market. So, no, I'm not making any
predictions here, and the commercial paper market will have to sort
itself out anyway. ...but give us another six months, and I won't
be terribly surprised if the housing market isn't anywhere near as
bad as it is now.
...and all those homes are worth something, subprime debt or no
subprime debt. Cap rates were out of line anyway in my area, and I
hear rental rates are going up pretty much everywhere. ...except
for Detroit.
In late breaking news, the Wall Street Jounal reports:
How FHA Could Help Borrowers--
Bush Backs Giving Agency
Flexibility to Offer Options
For Mortgage Refinancing
"The administration is looking to FHA to offer refinancing
options to homeowners, including those who aren't yet in
default or foreclosure, but who are at risk of falling
behind in their payments on mortgages that were structured to offer
payments that were very low at first but then
escalated."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118774225399404746.html?mod=hps_us_whats_news
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This is further evidence of something I've suspected for a long
time--that George W. Bush assumed the Presidency with the sole aim
of somehow beating out Johnson for the title, "Worst President
Since World War II".
...I mean, it's obvious! Throwing kerosene on the subprime
fire--how else could he compete with the man that brought
us both the escalation in Vietnam and The Great
Society?
P.S. Now that's a "bailout".
Not necessarily (aside from the very fact of something being
under the FHA aegis making people think there is less risk than
there actually is.) If they redo the ARM and balloon rate mortgages
into something that doesn't increase rates quite as fast and
stretches out the payment period, why should it not work out?
Still, there are probably going to be a lot of people who were
coaxed into buying more house then they really could afford,
period. It's those that we have to find a gentle landing slope
for.
Reason why we don't let these people just hang: because every
foreclosed house in the neighborhood will pull down the value of
every other house by 1% or so (forget the exact numbers.) You can
smugly pat yourself on your back about your thriftiness and
forethought, but when the potential collapse of your neighbors does
a ding in your own house value, you may think it may be more
productive in the long run to find a way for them to hold on to
their properties, no matter how libertarian you claim yourself to
be.
It's certainly more of a bailout than injecting liquidity.
If bailing out borrowers isn't bailing out the the people who hold
their mortgages, what is?
And yeah, if bailing these people out presents some kind of morale
hazard to lenders, what does bailing people out who aren't even in
trouble yet do?
Oh, and assuming that any legislation authorizing FHA to help
these people, or to authorize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy
more mortgages for their portfolios, won't also include new
regulations for subprime lenders, I'm sure you'll agree that that
would be a pretty bad bet. ...which is very bad news for people
trying to get a leg up in life.
If this happens, by the way... Is there anyone out there who
doesn't think this might lengthen this correction and future
corrections too?
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