David Weigel | January 2, 2007
- Gov. Mitt Romney, who leaves his job in about 48 hours, is managing to keep his coif up even as he's pulled away kicking and screaming.
Romney may refuse to move ahead on automatic pay raises for lawmakers unless they vote next week on a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages, a top administration official said yesterday.
The state's 200 House and Senate members are entitled to a raise on Jan. 1, but it is up to the governor to decide the exact amount and give final approval. Romney could act on the pay raises before he leaves office on Jan. 4, or leave the responsibility to Governor-elect Deval Patrick.
Patrick is a liberal Democrat (the first Dem governor of the Bay State since Mike Dukakis' tiny shadow left Beacon Hill) who supports gay marriage and pay raises in equal measure. Romney fan Kathryn Jean Lopez thinks this will turn the tide for marriage ban boosters; I think white evangelicals are even less impressed by blackmail than they are by Mormonism.
UPDATE: It looks like the blackmail/bribe ploy worked out. The Constitutional Convention voted against the ban 132-61, but because there were more than 50 "no" votes it gets to survive to the next Constitutional Convention.
- John Edwards is calling out Sen. John McCain and looking handsome doing it.
"I actually believe that this idea of surging troops, and escalating the war, what Senator McCain has been talking about, what I would call now the McCain doctrine it's ..."
"McCain doctrine?" interrupted host George Stephanopoulos.
"McCain doctrine," Edwards responded. "He's been the most prominent spokesperson for this for some time."
If the trend-happiest pundits are right, and making liberal bloggers ooh and aah is going to prove vital for 2008, stuff like this may prove more important for Edwards than actual substance. (It's at least a more winning gesture than Hillary Clinton's ill-advised buddying up to McCain.)
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"The state's 200 House and Senate members are entitled to a
raise on Jan. 1"
Given that it has to be approved, they aren't really entitled, are
they? I actually hope to see this ban voted down, but how is it
blackmail for Romney to not approve a pay raise should they refuse
to hold a vote. When my boss tells me I'm not getting a raise
unless I do my job (note, he's not saying it is contigent on them
voting a certain way, just voting), I don't get to call that
blackmail. Or has the definition now changed?
Let me get this straight: if I stand pat, we get to keep gay
marriage, and the legislators don't get a pay raise.
Cripes, that's an ace and a queen right there. I'm in!
When my boss tells me I'm not getting a raise unless I do my
job (note, he's not saying it is contigent on them voting a certain
way, just voting), I don't get to call that blackmail.
You're misunderstanding the vote. The amendment needs to pass twice
to make it onto the state's ballot in 2008. Romney thinks it has
the votes to pass. He is not merely asking for their votes; he's
asking for them to move a gay marriage ban down the conveyer belt,
after voters resoundingly elected a pro-gay marriage governor and
legislature.
Look at it this way: Your boss has been fired, and he leaves on
Friday to be replaced by a boss who favors Project X. Your old boss
opposed Project X, and he has the power to give you or deny you a
raise before he leaves. So he tells you "vote no on Project X or I
won't give you a raise." I think you can characterize that as
blackmail, if not as bad as the "or I'll kill your family" kind of
blackmail.
Fair enough, I'm not in MA and having been paying attention to the finer details. Nonetheless, I think I'm with joe in that seeing the failure of a pay raise to occur isn't a bad thing. Once again, I don't know all the details of their pay scale, maybe they're severely underpaid public servants, but living in B'more, Jessamy's 60% pay raise has left me a little sour on the automatic rubber stamp these things seem to get.
Has the definition of blackmail changed, or am I just
retarded?
Look at it this way: Your boss has been fired, and he leaves on
Friday to be replaced by a boss who favors Project X. Your old boss
opposed Project X, and he has the power to give you or deny you a
raise before he leaves. So he tells you "vote no on Project X or I
won't give you a raise." I think you can characterize that as
blackmail, if not as bad as the "or I'll kill your family" kind of
blackmail.
Still doesn't seem like blackmail...more like just a threat or
perhaps a "dick move".
When my boss tells me I'm not getting a raise unless I do my
job (note, he's not saying it is contigent on them voting a certain
way, just voting), I don't get to call that
blackmail.
1. The governor is not "the boss" of the legislature, the voters
are.
2. Their "job" isn't to vote on any and every thing under the sun.
Part of it is to decide what to vote on and what not to vote
on.
3. A lame duck governor is trying to force the legislature to vote
(something it doesn't in fact HAVE TO DO) by threatening to
withhold a pay raise -- sounds like a form of blackmail to me
4. I think the country as a whole would be better if more
legislators decided to not vote on things.
BTW, there's a backstory to the "let the people vote"
line.
For about six years starting in the late 90s, there were civil
union bills filed in both houses of the Massachusetts state
legislature, with enough co-sponsors to pass the bill. Not just
enough support - the bill were cosponsored by a majority of each
house.
Every single year, the Senate passed its bill. And every single
year, the House Speaker sent the bill to the Ways and Means
Committee, where the chairman refused to bring it to a vote.
Where were the noble, totally-not-homophobic advocates for a vote
then? They were giving Speaker Finneran and Chairman Rogers awards
for their vigilant efforts to save marriage from gay people.
At least now the public has a chance to vote out the relevant
legislators if they don't like the outcome of the convention. When
the state was eager to pass a civil unions bill, two reactionaries
in safe seats were allowed to thwart the expressed (as opposed to
merely assumed) will of a democratic majority.
cinnabob - I thought that O'Malley was supporting Jessamy's pay raise in the hopes of attracting somebody else to run for her job. That's the spin I heard; did you hear otherwise?
Ctom,
1. True, but he does have approval power over their pay raise,
which is the same power my boss has in my analogy.
2. True, and here I conceded to Dave that I didn't fully understand
what some of the finer details were on the vote.
3. Lame duck or not, he's been granted the authority to approve or
not the pay raise. If he's legally not allowed to do this for
certain reasons, I'd need to see that they apply in this case
before I think blackmail is an applicable term.
4. I agree, but I also think that legislators are generally
overcompensated for the job they do and are too easily granted pay
raises.
RRIII,
I've heard that mentioned before, but it doesn't seem to add up.
He's married into far too connected a political/legal family to
have to try such a long shot rather than privately help pick, groom
and then approve some one.
The one thing that explanation has going for it is that he and
Jessamy have had some trouble in the past, but I think he's put his
local petty squabbles behind him along with his onstage Guinness
chugging.
I think you can characterize that as blackmail, if not as
bad as the "or I'll kill your family" kind of blackmail.
BLACKMAIL is threatening to reveal information about a person
unless the threatened party fulfills certain demands.
EXTORTION is when a person obtains money or property through
coercion or intimidation or threats of physical harm.
BRIBERY is the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any
item of value to influence the actions as an official or other
person in discharge of a public or legal duty.
GRAFT is where someone profits personally from the public
budget
Sounds like bribery or graft to me.
Well, if that new boss happens to be named "Cuffy Meigs" I'm voting against Project X no matter what.
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