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Your Tears Are So Yummy and Sweet
Man, I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of a small
child in days. Image via Bureaucrash.
Update: Oy. For the benefit of commenters who don't share my sense of humor, I'm not "going after" Santorum's daughter, who I'm about as sure as one can be will never, ever read this post and have her feelings hurt. Just making a joke about how good it is to be rid of this guy.
|11.8.06 @ 2:51PM|#
The crying girl is one thing, but check out the kid on the far right... what's he seeing out there?
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 4:27PM|#
ATTENTION INNOCENT READERS!
DO NOT READ BEYOND THIS POINT. CLOSE YOUR BROWSWER, DELETE THE
HISTORY, AND RUN A FULL VIRUS SCAN IMMEDIATELY.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Leonardo|11.8.06 @ 2:51PM|#
She is a little old to be carrying a doll like that at a public event. The doll's dress even matches her dress, and why is her brother dressed like a stockbroker? Oh Robin Givhan please chime in on the strange fashion choices of the uber-religious home-schooled Santorum household.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 4:38PM|#
Leonardo knows exactly how old a girl carrying a doll ought to be. Exactly. To the minute. And how to dress them. And their brothers.
VM|10.22.09 @ 5:18PM|#
HE SAID, "GROW UP"
you know, like calling the Penguin, "penguin". you're gonna get swatted with the ruler.
toshiro_mifune|11.8.06 @ 2:53PM|#
Nuts, Jake beat me to the punch.
what's he seeing out there?
Perhaps the rest of the Cenobites have come for his dad ?
|11.8.06 @ 3:24PM|#
That's his daughter Sarah, she's 8 years old. So basically
because her father has different political views than yours and has
been voted out of office after 12 years in the US Senate, you're
happy to see her "suffering"? Eight years old is too old to have a
doll, especially if that comforts her during a tough time? An
eight-year old girl should "Fucking grow up"? When did this web
site turn into DailyKos?
I can blame her parents for putting her out on stage as a prop, but
going after an eight year old girl for petty partisan reasons is
messed up. Man, I hope you guys never have kids of your own.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 4:54PM|#
Dear reader,
If you're still here, keep an eye on this commenter. It gets
interesting.
Canadian - know what I mean?
|11.8.06 @ 3:25PM|#
I am assuming that the crying one is the 8 year old who is astute enough, despite her age, to know that if you destroy the egg you don't get the bald eagle.
|11.8.06 @ 3:27PM|#
Jon H, no, their child who died in 1996 shortly after birth is not standing up on the podium next to them. Making fun of live children is not enough I suppose, especially for someone you disagree with.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 4:58PM|#
Aha! Someone got the obscure, over-the-line remark. This one seems to know a bit too much about the Santorums, takes it all a little too personally, yes?
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 4:59PM|#
ProGLib's lying. When he was 11 he once spent 14 consecutive hours staring into his bathroom mirror.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 3:30PM|#
Wow. Fucking grow up.
Who? Julian? Or the little girl?
I think the kid with the glasses sees dead people. They don't even
know they're dead.......
|11.8.06 @ 3:30PM|#
That's his daughter Sarah, she's 8 years old. So basically
because her father has different political views than yours and has
been voted out of office after 12 years in the US Senate,
you're happy to see her "suffering"? Eight years old is too old
to have a doll, especially if that comforts her during a tough
time? An eight-year old girl should "Fucking grow up"? When did
this web site turn into DailyKos?
I can blame her parents for putting her out on stage as a prop, but
going after an eight year old girl for petty partisan reasons is
messed up. Man, I hope you guys never have kids of your own.
Come now, daddy Santorum never taught you how to laugh?
|11.8.06 @ 3:30PM|#
I guess I'm a bad person, because I found that picture
hilarious.
And aaa aaa- Santorum decided to use his spawn as political props.
That makes them fair game. What's worse? Laughing at a picture, or
using your children as stage dressing?
|11.8.06 @ 3:30PM|#
Wouldn't it suck if your dad's job got your last named turned
into a slang word for a nasty, frothy substance?
And yeah, that poor boy is seeing dead people or something.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 5:49PM|#
Yeah, and wouldn't it suck if someone stole your comment thread? Ya know what I would do, I would take it back. I wouldn't whine about it. You are also a wuss.
|11.8.06 @ 3:31PM|#
"Man, I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of a
small child in days."
You should be ashamed.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 5:50PM|#
uh-oh. Moral high ground. Self-righteousness. This thing could get ugly.
|11.8.06 @ 3:31PM|#
Julian,
That's pretty low class if you ask me. Weren't there any puppies or
kittens around to kick when you posted this?
JKP
|11.8.06 @ 3:31PM|#
Yeah, de-italicize that last sentence. Daddy Santorum never taught me how to write.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 5:54PM|#
Did you just respond to me from three years ago? I am a little weirded out.
|11.8.06 @ 3:32PM|#
aaa: "Jon H, no, their child who died in 1996 shortly after
birth is not standing up on the podium next to them."
Not even in a jar?
|11.8.06 @ 3:33PM|#
While we're on the subject, consider this: One of those kids
will:
a) Get pregnant in high school
b) Develop a drug problem
c) Grow up to be gay.
d) All of the above.
When that happens, we can all place bets on when the conversion
back to whackaloony Christianity will occur.
Gawd, I love having things to look forward to.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 6:38PM|#
Maybe. Maybe one will become a conservative activist, one will be a home school advocate and one will marry outside of his species. You never know.
|11.8.06 @ 3:33PM|#
I thought that last night. No way I would have dragged my kids
out on that stage. That was obviously a tough night for them,
too.
Whether they were there as props, or as support during his hour of
need, he made them stand out there on the stage with him. Be an
effing MAN, dude. Don't hide behind kids.
|11.8.06 @ 3:34PM|#
Sorry for the confusion. I meant that Julian needs to grow the fuck up, not that poor kid.
|11.8.06 @ 3:36PM|#
Number 6: "What's worse? Laughing at a picture, or using your
children as stage dressing?"
Both are bad, which is why I criticized both. The difference is the
parents made a choice to be there, I doubt the eight year old girl
did. I guess if you are opposed to someone's political views, you
have to despise and ridicule them, their kids, their deceased
children, their kid's dolls, etc. Like I said, it is DailyKos day
here today.
|11.8.06 @ 3:38PM|#
I voted against him of course, but I couldn't help but feel a
little bad for the kids, since I'm a big softie. However as the guy
who came on after the speech rightly said, there are much larger
things at stake here. Plus, I couldn't shake the feeling that
Santorum decided to bring them on stage only after they started
crying.
But anyway, the best part of the speech was when, after she
realized what Santorum's speech was about, some idiot lady in the
audience screamed at the top of her lungs "OH NO!!!", just ruining
the whole thing.
|11.8.06 @ 3:38PM|#
No, aaa aaa, I don't have to. But I will anyway, because it's freaking hoo-larious. But go ahead and use that righteous indignation to convince yourself that you're the better person. I'll be over in the corner giggling.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 7:10PM|#
He's still there. It got creepy after about a month. It's downright disturbing now.
|11.8.06 @ 3:38PM|#
Jesus, it's a funny picture. It's (almost) always okay to make
fun of anyone as long as they are not going to hear about it. I
assume you're not going to go tell her about us, aaa aaa.
She should count herself lucky anyways. If she gets married, she'll
lose her last name. The boy is in is in shock because everyone will
always equate his last name with santorum rather than Santorum.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 7:20PM|#
Why did you all have to try to steal my thread?! Didn't you realize that I would do domething stupid like this? I have a history, you know. I can be an annoyance.
Jeff P|11.8.06 @ 3:38PM|#
I see a "Santorums" sitcom. The daughters are Frowny and Weepy,
and their son, who gets laughs each week when he inserts something
new up his bum and makes that exact face (with funny sound
effect).
Weepy's doll is secretly possessed.
Mom drinks. But she's a funny drunk.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 7:23PM|#
That sounds dumb enough to get picked up. We'll call it The Cosby Show.
|11.8.06 @ 3:39PM|#
Does the blond women on the podium play the role of Dwight's girlfriend on "The Office"?
|11.8.06 @ 3:40PM|#
That guy has helped to cause a lot of people in PA to lose their jobs and much suffering. He deserves what he gets.
|11.8.06 @ 3:40PM|#
Isildur: "Going after Santorum is never 'petty partisan'
anything."
Yeah, but going after his 8 year old girl, and his deceased child,
is.
Jon H: No, his dead child was not in a jar on stage with him. Dead
kid jokes must be freakin hilarious over at firedoglake. I mean,
you would have voted against him in an election, so you have to
make fun of his deceased children, right?
Joe: You're 100% right, the kids should not have been there.
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 7:27PM|#
How long did it take for this thread to become interesting? So far, no it ain't.
YAWN.
|11.8.06 @ 3:42PM|#
"Man, I hope you guys never have kids of your own."
No lie, after looking at that picture, I think my tubes just tied
themselves.
|11.8.06 @ 3:42PM|#
I don't want kids for this very reason. They are such needy
little cry babies. They are constantly in need of attention.
Hey, if they put her out as a some sort of political human shield
all bets are off.
|11.8.06 @ 3:43PM|#
"I guess if you are opposed to someone's political views,
you have to despise and ridicule them, their kids, their deceased
children, their kid's dolls, etc. Like I said, it is DailyKos day
here today."
Being a libertarian means that I'm supposed to hate children and
old people. But mostly children.
At least, that's what all the leftists tell me.
Therefore your powers to garner sympathy from me are
impotent!
MWA-HA-HA-HA!
*Does evil libertarian dance.*
toshiro_mifune|11.8.06 @ 3:44PM|#
Oh come on people !
At some point you have to admit that crying little fat grils are
funny - even if you feel bad for them they're still funny.
The only thing better would be offering her a pony to cuddle away
those sorrows and then, at the last minute taking it away and
laughing. Repeat as needed.
|11.8.06 @ 3:44PM|#
Number 6: giggle away, especially at the dead kid jokes. There's nothing funnier!
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 3:45PM|#
One of the most recognizable photographs in the world is JFK Jr
stage dressed as he salutes his father's casket. You think that
salute was spontaneous?
Even the Cubans gave Jackie O a pass on that.
Okay, so Santorums not dead, but it is political given that if
there are kids, they are always stage dressing. Win or lose, you'll
always see the kids and the flag.
Just sayin'
|11.8.06 @ 3:45PM|#
Be an effing MAN, dude.
joe, forgive me, but I thought when I first read that that you were
directing the comment at the poor, sobbing girl. I hurt myself
laughing, then realized that you were talking to Johnny
Fontane.
|11.8.06 @ 3:45PM|#
Looking at the picture again, I'm not sure if she is crying or is preparing to detonate.
|11.8.06 @ 3:47PM|#
"Looking at the picture again, I'm not sure if she is crying
or is preparing to detonate."
What? Like Veruca Salt in Charlie and the Chocolate
Factory?
highnumber|10.22.09 @ 11:41PM|#
mediageek can name 83 different ways that a little girl can explode so you need to be very specific for him.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 3:47PM|#
How do you make a dead baby float?
Two scoops of dead baby in a mug of root beer.
Wild Pegasus|11.8.06 @ 3:47PM|#
I think we're missing out on something important in all of
this:
That family is butt-ugly.
- Josh
highnumber|10.23.09 @ 7:34AM|#
Why would one type "Wild Pegasus" in the name box then sign "Josh"?
-highnumber
|11.8.06 @ 3:48PM|#
aaa aaa- Hey, I don't recall being the one to mention dead kids, nor do I remember laughing at his dead kid. Swing and a miss.
|11.8.06 @ 3:48PM|#
Exactly, mediageek.
Finally, TWC brings out the dead baby jokes. Please tell as many as
possible. I need as many good new ones as possible. (Dead baby
jokes have a certain cache in my social circles).
|11.8.06 @ 3:49PM|#
I'm w/ Number 6. I especially appreciate the "use your righteous
indignation to convince yourself that you're the better person".
Goddamn, talk about hitting the nail on the head.
I can't stop laughing giddily at that crap. Couple that with
Rummy's frowny-faced resignation, and it makes my week.
|11.8.06 @ 3:50PM|#
Ah, she's just going to grow up to be another one of the Right's fundie nutjob foot-soldiers anyway. So do we really have to wait until she's a bible-thumpin', homo-hatin' adult before we make fun of her? I think not.
|11.8.06 @ 3:50PM|#
"Isildur: "Going after Santorum is never 'petty partisan'
anything."
Yeah, but going after his 8 year old girl, and his deceased child,
is."
I didn't say Rick Santorum. I said Santorum, inclusive.
A decent parent wouldn't have brought the kids onstage for the
concession photo-op. It's sleazy Santorum politicking, as per the
usual. If he wants to score political points for the future by
using his spawn to manipulate the emotions of the public, then she
becomes a target. Nobody twisted his arm and made him drag her
onstage.
Also, she's funny-looking.
Also, her last name is Santorum.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 3:50PM|#
I think my tubes just tied themselves.
Now, THAT, was funny. All in the delivery, I guess.
PJ, you get the prize, or whatever it is, for this thread.
|11.8.06 @ 3:51PM|#
Keep in mind this guy also ran a bunch of ads featuring his kids
and how great a "family man" he's supposed to be in the weeks
leading up to this. Using them as political tools is a given for
him. This guy is obsessed with winning no matter what, which is
part of why I voted for the other guy.
He even ended his speech with something along the lines of "this
will give me more time to focus on being a good father to my kids".
Starting with putting pictures of them crying on national TV. I'm
sure that will be a big help to his son in prep school.
|11.8.06 @ 3:51PM|#
She's probably wondering who's going to pay for her web based
education now.
That and worried they'll actually move back into the tiny home
they've claimed as their actual residence all these years.
|11.8.06 @ 3:52PM|#
How do you get 10 dead babies into a shoebox?
-- A blender.
How do you get them back out?
-- A straw.
|11.8.06 @ 3:52PM|#
aaa aaa,
Seriously, lighten up. The girl will never know about this thread.
No one is hurt, and people are laughing.
Besided, Santorum should be blamed for this, and I'm not talking
about his decision to bring her on stage. I'm talking about his
decision not to abort her and donate her stem cells to Michael J.
Fox.
gaius marius|11.8.06 @ 4:01PM|#
wait... when did h&r become the internet center for
shallowly contrived sanctimony of convenience? i thought deadspin
was just a couple weeks ago! man, this internet thing is
fast!
lol -- republicans and fellow conservatives (if in fact you are),
you should be able to take your decimations with more grace than
this. laugh at the comitragedy that the outgoing senator has so
kindly presented for your entertainment.
At some point you have to admit that crying little fat grils
are funny - even if you feel bad for them they're still
funny.
precisely, mr mifune.
ChrisO|11.8.06 @ 4:02PM|#
Wow, that's very Stepford-looking family. That said, laughing at
the misery of 8-year-old girls is not my specialty.
The fundies are already making noises about encouraging Santorum to
run for president. Uhh yeah, right.
|11.8.06 @ 4:03PM|#
Number 6: You are completely right. The whole thread is
hilarious! That's why you're in the corner giggling! I mean, you
weren't the first to mention it, but it did not (and should not)
stop you from laughing uncontrollably. Crying kids, dead kids, it's
all comedy gold! You're right, to be a better person I should make
dead baby jokes! I should mock eight year olds going through a
tough time! I mean, it's not like this is a web site devoted to
free minds and free markets, we should focus on the important
business: spewing ricidule against any political opponent &
their families.
Thank you for showing me the error of my ways, you are so so much
morally superior to me in every conceivable way.
|11.8.06 @ 4:03PM|#
Man, I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of
a small child in days.
Hey, if Rick Santorum was your old man, you'd cry too.
|11.8.06 @ 4:03PM|#
I join the ranks of the depraved, I guess, because I saw this
photo in the paper this morning, smiled, and hoped that I would see
it online so I could email it to all my friends. I had all the same
thoughts as the bad people posting here:
Crying girl is funny.
Crying girl is way too old to be clutching doll. Also funny.
Boy is extra creepy. Also funny.
I don't feel bad about laughing. If the girl had lost her father,
this would not be funny. If the girl was actually suffering, not
funny. The girl's father is going to have a career following his
departure from office. He will make more money, not less. He will
lose some perks and power. He is a major league asshole. I have no
sympathy for him or his daughter. The creepy son has plenty of time
to get over it. I spent those years looking creepy too.
By the way, I do have a child. When he cries over nothing (which is
often since he is not quite 8 months old), I comfort him. Inside, I
smile and think it's cute.
jeem|11.8.06 @ 4:05PM|#
I'm glad Santorum lost, but you're a dick for taking pleasure in a child's sorrow.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 4:05PM|#
The kid on the far left, obscured by Guy Smiley, was bawling too. He seemed to be about 15.
highnumber|10.23.09 @ 5:56PM|#
One thing that amazes me is how many people seemed to have actually watched this event live.
|11.8.06 @ 4:06PM|#
Santorum decided to use his spawn as political props. That
makes them fair game.
I disagree. It makes him fair game. The kids never did anything to
anybody as far as I know
|11.8.06 @ 4:09PM|#
Wouldn't it suck if your dad's job got your last named
turned into a slang word for a nasty, frothy substance?
Sorry, but only polito-geeks in certain corners of the blogosphere
are aware of that slang. It's truly an inside joke, no pun
intended.
|11.8.06 @ 4:11PM|#
aaa aaa- Jebus, dude, why not just fall to the floor, pound your fists and kick your legs? Are you always this quick to descend into incoherence?
highnumber|10.23.09 @ 6:12PM|#
How the hell would you know whether aaa aaa was on the floor throwing this tantrum?
|11.8.06 @ 4:11PM|#
aaa aaa:
Yeah, and there's nothing fucking CREEPIER than a family sitting
around cooing and lavishing love on an infant corpse in their
living room. I'll admit, that's not funny...that's fuckin sick.
highnumber|10.23.09 @ 6:13PM|#
Well, it takes a bigger man to admit that his enemies are sickos, or something like that.
M|11.8.06 @ 4:12PM|#
"The ML [Modal Libertarian] does not, unfortunately, hate the
State because he sees it as the unique social instrument of
organized aggression against person and property. Instead, the ML
is an adolescent rebel against everyone around him: first, against
his parents, second against his family, third against his
neighbours, and finally against society itself … The ML also has
the thousand-mile stare of the fanatic." ~ Hans-Herman Hoppe,
Democracy: The God That Failed, p. 206, Footnote #22
Is that the stare that equips the ML to surpass
traditionalists in tackiness? Leave the kids alone; they've been
exploited enough.
highnumber|10.23.09 @ 6:15PM|#
I would have thought that this comment of M's would have ended all this.
Jesse Walker|11.8.06 @ 4:12PM|#
I don't think crying girls are funny. But I do like South Park references.
|11.8.06 @ 4:12PM|#
Rick Jr. (or, "little dick" as he's known around the house) was
actually weeping his eyes out too during the concession speech.
They just caught him in a stunned moment where he contemplating
what Dad had told him =
"If I'm not re-elected, Democrats are going to gay-up every red
blooded male in America, and everyones going to burn in Hell for
eternity"
I actually dont know his name, but he was crying. I wanted to hit
him and take his milk money. Then tear the head off of his
daughters doll, and start doing a sassy gay strip routine directed
at Rick, making him 'froth' with rage.
This is all just emotional payback for so many weeks of dumb
political news
|11.8.06 @ 4:12PM|#
Maybe she's sad that he's going to be home more often? Was this picture taken right after he made that statement?
|11.8.06 @ 4:14PM|#
The girl will never know about this thread.
Maybe not this thread in specific, but that pic will make the
rounds, for sure. It'll get back to her, along with the
vitriol.
In 20 or so years, when l'il Sarah, after years of training with
mysterious masters of secret deadly martial arts comes back and
caves in Sanchez' head with her pinky finger, I'll say, "eh, I
guess he had that coming."
|11.8.06 @ 4:15PM|#
Evan, are you implying that they do have the body of their
infant on display?
no way!
B|11.8.06 @ 4:16PM|#
(sigh)
The fact that Julian's post is immature and mean-spirited does not
in any way undermine the fact that it is also
hillarious.
If this is the worst thing Rick Santorum's daughter ever endures,
she's very, very lucky.
highnumber|10.25.09 @ 10:57AM|#
I am starting to check if the blogs that people link to in their names are still valid. B's is.
|11.8.06 @ 4:16PM|#
Holy fuck, would you people just relax? It's not like anyone is up in the little girl's face screaming "boooyaaaah, ya little twat! Daddy LOST! Your daddy sucks, so do you! Now you're gonna have to move to the poorhouse! HAHAHAHA!" No, it's a few people having a laugh at a photograph in the comfort of their computer. Oh, god, how immoral! Humorless idiots.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 4:16PM|#
Hey, when I was a little fat girl I didn't think it was funny at all.
highnumber|10.25.09 @ 11:00AM|#
I don't need to verify TWC's blog status. Of course he's still there. If you haven't, I recommend you check it out.
|11.8.06 @ 4:17PM|#
Here you go, enjoy:
http://www.dead-baby-joke.com/
Good thing Sanchez posted this update: "For the benefit of
commenters who don't share my sense of humor, I'm not 'going after'
Santorum's daughter"
Who could possibly assume that based on this statement "Man, I
haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of a small child
in days"?
Plus, I thought we all established here there's no problem
ridiculing the children of opponents? Join in the fun, pile on!
Otherwise you are full of "righteous indignation", and you don't
want that.
|11.8.06 @ 4:18PM|#
Felcher,
no, I was not implying anything---I was stating how sick it was for
the Santorum family to cuddle and love and spend time lavishing
affection on a corpse in their living room. That's all.
|11.8.06 @ 4:19PM|#
Hold on, GILMORE, I'm seeing a pattern. First, I noted the
child's thousand-yard stare. Then M notes above that the
thousand-yard stare is an attribute of a libertarian. Could Son of
Santorum be the Libertarian Messiah that we've been waiting for?
Sweater-vest clad for liberty.
Julian, you most certainly were going after the daughter. Tsk, tsk.
I'd update my disclaimer with a counter disclaimer. Maybe authored
by Kerry, saying "Nah, Julian's mocking the girl. But the boy
freaks him out".
highnumber|10.29.09 @ 1:44PM|#
Not sure someone with an exclamation point in their name should be considered a reliable source.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 4:20PM|#
I've forgotten most of the best dead baby jokes but here
goes........
Difference between a truckload of dead babies and a truckload of
golf balls?
You cannot unload a truckload of golf balls with a pitchfork.
|11.8.06 @ 4:21PM|#
Yes, the Santorums have a rough future ahead of them, what with
their father returning to his position as a partner at Kirkpatrick
& Lockhart, increasing the firm's lobbying practice, and
pulling down $2-3 mil for bringin in all the Republican and
religious conservative work.
Tear.
|11.8.06 @ 4:21PM|#
"Plus, I thought we all established here there's no problem
ridiculing the children of opponents?"
Rick's not just an "opponent", he's a hateful scumbag who likens
homosexuality to fornicating with goats. Let's not sugar-coat this
bastard, okay?
Damn, not only are you full of righteous indignation, you're also
devoid of any levity or capacity for humor. Way to turn this
lighthearted situation into a matter of somber importance. Ugh. I
bet you're the life of the party.
|11.8.06 @ 4:22PM|#
Number 6: "aaa aaa- Jebus, dude, why not just fall to the floor,
pound your fists and kick your legs? Are you always this quick to
descend into incoherence?"
No, but you're quicker to invoke Jebus. I hope you're not some kind
of bible thumping freak like Santorum, because I am revising my
moral worldview based on your example. I mean, look at the necklace
his 8 year old is wearing. It's a cross! Might was well be a
swastika!
|11.8.06 @ 4:22PM|#
"Evan, are you implying that they do have the body of their
infant on display?
no way!"
In the book Santorum wrote, he revealed that they brought their
dead baby home for the night.
Presumably, they took it to a funeral home for burial, but, you
know, maybe they gave the funeral home a cabbage patch kid.
|11.8.06 @ 4:23PM|#
I'm with David. I spent several minutes wondering why the kid who played Crabbe in the movie was in that picture, and in costume no less.
|11.8.06 @ 4:23PM|#
Mediageek: they did indeed. Their infant child died, and they spent the next day passing the corpse around the living room, lavishing it with love and treating it as if it were alive. Fucking creepy, I tells ya.
|11.8.06 @ 4:24PM|#
*sigh*
The girl was probably just tired. It was midnight or something
after all. Plus everyone was upset, plus she was wearing that awful
dress with waaayyy too much starch in it, plus it was
probably reallly boring there.
I think Santorum is an evil twat and I experienced a level of
schadenfreude at his concession speech that was a new high for me.
Still, I felt for the poor kid. My immediate reaction was to think
that Julian is pretty much a fucking douchebag for having made fun
of her and to think that if he ever said anything so mean to my
child I would crush his testicles in such a way that there would
never be a chance that his unfortunate sense of humour would be
passed on to his own children.
So go ahead and ban me. Fuck you Julian.
|11.8.06 @ 4:25PM|#
"No, but you're quicker to invoke Jebus. I hope you're not
some kind of bible thumping freak like Santorum, because I am
revising my moral worldview based on your example. I mean, look at
the necklace his 8 year old is wearing. It's a cross! Might was
well be a swastika!"
How's life over in Batshitinsaneville?
|11.8.06 @ 4:26PM|#
Someone mentioned giving the girl a pony. I agree, comfort food is nice at times like this.
|11.8.06 @ 4:26PM|#
aaa aaa writes: "Who could possibly assume that based on this
statement "Man, I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering
of a small child in days"?"
Come on, this isn't suffering, unless the mom is tugging on her
hair to make her cry.
"Suffering" would be, say, that little Iraqi kid who was burned,
had his arms blown off and his family killed, pictures of whom were
distributed in the early days of the war.
This is probably "little girl up way past her bedtime", 'cause you
*know* they go to bed at 7 at the Santorum house.
|11.8.06 @ 4:28PM|#
Is that the stare that equips the ML to surpass
traditionalists in tackiness? Leave the kids alone; they've been
exploited enough.
The Austrian school -- they are a humorless bunch. M repeats Herman
Hoppe who repeats Rothbard. In a parallel universe, without humans,
humor, and all things joyful and lighthearted, the Rothbardians
would rule supreme. In this universe, the failed economists cum
philosophers that deck the halls of Mises.org are apparently
looking out for the exploited children.
|11.8.06 @ 4:29PM|#
Oh, the HORROR, someone made fun of a crying little girl! Time
to crush his testicles because I don't agree that it's funny!
"Sigh" indeed
|11.8.06 @ 4:31PM|#
Evan, I am the life of the party, look at my link to dead baby
jokes. It is freakin' high-larious!
But seriously, I agree with you on Santorum: he has different views
than we do on this subject. This does not make him an opponent, it
makes him an enemy. We should not only ridicule his kids, we should
try to have them all arrested and convicted for hate crimes for
daddy even expressing such views. Make a note to go after his
grandkids as well, just to be sure.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 4:32PM|#
Julian, your disclaimer reminds me that Clinton never inhaled and that GWB served in the National Guard.
|11.8.06 @ 4:33PM|#
Actually--and I mean this in all seriousness--why were the kids
so upset? Did Dad simply freak out on them before they got on
stage? Were they forced to get up there and were crying because of
that? Did Santorum curse God? Certainly, they're going to be
wealthier if anything, so it's not the "Daddy's losing his job"
issue. Are they even going to have to move, if he's going to
K&L (presumably the DC office)?
I'm not much for mocking kids who've done no wrong, either. But I
do find the situation somewhat surreal. As I do Santorum.
|11.8.06 @ 4:35PM|#
Jesus Evan do you have an enemies list and is it prioritized according who is to be shot first, rather than merely arrested, once you take power?
|11.8.06 @ 4:35PM|#
Wow. I'm shocked that libertarians haven't made more inroads
what with our erudite commentary and thoughtful analysis on display
here.
Way to handle "victory," there, assholes.
|11.8.06 @ 4:35PM|#
Julian,
You'd have more defenders around here if you were a child molester.
They fight to death for those guys on this board.
|11.8.06 @ 4:37PM|#
Look, people, society exists for the purpose of elevating our
lives above what they would be in a state of nature.
In a state of nature, I'd laugh at the crying fat girl, too. Who
wouldn't? But we're supposed to be civilized here, and pretend that
that picture isn't funny. At all.
Isn't funny at all. Repeat that phrase until you can stop giggling
and come out of the corner.
Also, as a liberal, the story about the Santorums bringing the body
of their stillborn child home for their other kids to hug and pet
is so freaking weird that it brings out my liberal cultural
relativism. Who are we to judge, ya know? That's just the way those
people grieve. It's no better or worse than, say, not passing
around a dead baby's body like it was a teddy bear. It's just
different. We really need to be more open-minded about people, like
the Santorums, who aren't like us.
|11.8.06 @ 4:40PM|#
He was a partner at K&L before he went into politics. I would assume that he would end up in DC if his goal is to make the most money. If not he may have to content himself with a measely half million or whathever their partners make in PA.
|11.8.06 @ 4:40PM|#
Hey Joe
How about that it is none of ours or anyone else's business how
these people grieve for their dead child no matter how creepy it
is? Libertarians love privacy as long as it doesn't deprive them of
the ability to merciless redicule someone who doesn't agree with
them.
|11.8.06 @ 4:41PM|#
joe,
I agree about the weird baby corpse issue. That's a horrifying
thing for a family to deal with, and if they do it in a somewhat
freaky manner, that's their business. I had to attend a funeral for
a friend's baby girl (3-days old when she died), and it was an
incredibly heart-wrenching event. I'm not even sure how people live
with such a loss, let alone endure it.
|11.8.06 @ 4:41PM|#
"Is it just me, or does The Mrs. look like she's really jonesing
for a Highball?"
Hey, who isn't jonesing for a highball?
|11.8.06 @ 4:43PM|#
Jon H, your absolutely right, Sanchez should never have used the
word "suffering", since no one can truly suffer unless it is as a
result of the application of US military power in an illegal and
immoral war. Speak truth to power!
Evan: "How's life over in Batshitinsaneville?" What an odd question
to ask, since I agree with everything you say. You are right,
people should behave in a calm and completely rational way when
they lose a newborn child, and any deviation from standard practice
should be ruthlessly criticized and brought up at every opportunity
as a political weapon.
Walker, Texas Stranger|11.8.06 @ 4:43PM|#
Santorum's daughter Sarah Maria cries while holding and consoling son Gabriel Michael.
|11.8.06 @ 4:44PM|#
Libertarians love privacy as long as it doesn't deprive them
of the ability to merciless redicule someone who doesn't agree with
them.
Can anything that's been published in a book really be considered
private anymore?
|11.8.06 @ 4:45PM|#
"Victory?" Divided government is an improvement, but it surely isn't "victory" - whichever side wins we still lose. (Pelosi is better than Hastert only because Bush beat Kerry - see how that works?) But at least we can take a bitter satisfaction in watching so many of the most unpleasant politicians take a swan dive out of office.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 4:46PM|#
My uncle kissed my grandfather's dead face in the casket (gave
me the willies, I ain't touching no dead bodies). My friend
Amphetamine Annie sat with her dead husband for nearly a day. I'll
give you wierd on the dead infant corpse pass around pack
BUT......I've seen a lot of strange stuff when it comes to dead
people and the way people grieve.
Pro, I hear that. Knew a girl who lost a baby to crib death. She
was insane for five years after. BTW, my boy was saved from crib
death by a cat.
John, I ain't jonesing for a highball, I'm jonesing for
Wine-Thirty.
|11.8.06 @ 4:46PM|#
There is no loss this year as sweet as that douchebag scrotorum... his daughter is crying because now she knows her dad sucks.
Santorum Wrong Here|11.8.06 @ 4:49PM|#
Say what you want about individuals' comments here; however the issue rest with Santorum. He chose to put his children in a public eye via campaign commercials and now via this public concession speech. I personally find Santorum very self serving here. If he thought about his children's welfare for a second over his political ambition, he would not have put them in this type of situation.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 4:50PM|#
Media, that's a great photo, and the highball crack was excellent.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 4:53PM|#
Santorum Wrong Here, sure he is, but.......Every politician does exactly the same thing. The flag and the kids. Flag behind, kids upfront, doting wife standing one step to the right and behind, demure smile, conservative Sunday-go-to-meeting suit, no cleavage. Well, except Gore's wife that is.....
Kap|11.8.06 @ 4:54PM|#
It appears to me the young lad - innocently trying to help with
the photo op - told his sister that he slaughtered and ate her
pony, only to realized he had just implicated himself in a felony,
thanks in part to his dad's cronies.
Karma: it'l get you in the end.
|11.8.06 @ 4:59PM|#
And all this "it's his fault because he used his family as
props" rationalization is just stupid.
Stop blaming other people for your own behavior.
And stop being so hateful and juvenile.
|11.8.06 @ 4:59PM|#
Julian, that not only made my day, but my entire month. Hopefully, it will be emailed to Bill O'Reilly who will bust a vein ...
|11.8.06 @ 5:02PM|#
Mediageek: they did indeed. Their infant child died, and
they spent the next day passing the corpse around the living room,
lavishing it with love and treating it as if it were alive. Fucking
creepy, I tells ya.
And not terribly unusual, either. In fact, preparing the body of
the deceased used to be normally done by the family up until about
50-60 years ago, when mortuaries were given monopolies by most
states. Even then, almost all funeral homes today will allow family
members to help prepare the body for burial.
Back then the body would often stay in the home until the funeral,
and people would come by the home and pay their last respects. It's
only during the post-WWII era that it has changed.
IIRC, Paul McCartney did this same thing with Linda's body after
she died, and then did a no-no by not reporting her death to the
local health department before shipping it out of the state. Of
course, being a Wonderful and Popular Celebrity, he wasn't charged
with a crime.
Regarding Julian's glee over a little girl's discomfort, I always
knew Libertarians were snarky and insensitive, so I'm not terribly
shocked by the juvenile piling-on here in the comments. It does,
however, illustrate Reason #1,145 of why Libertarian Party
candidates rarely get more than 2% of the vote: If they're not
crazy, they're insufferably snotty.
|11.8.06 @ 5:03PM|#
aaa aaa: Seriously, do you realize how stupid you sound? Here, I'll help: why not accuse me of thinking the gas chambers are funny?
|11.8.06 @ 5:04PM|#
Santorum Wrong Here, sure he is, but.......Every politician
does exactly the same thing. The flag and the kids. Flag behind,
kids upfront, doting wife standing one step to the right and
behind, demure smile, conservative Sunday-go-to-meeting suit, no
cleavage. Well, except Gore's wife that is...
That reminds me: I would have voted for Gore if he and Tipper had
released a 'stolen' sex tape. All the kissing photo ops were fun,
but couldn't he have taken the "I promise: my marriage is healthy"
thing to the next level. As for Gore's daughters...
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:05PM|#
"In his Senate office, on a shelf next to an autographed
baseball, Sen. Rick Santorum keeps a framed photo of his son
Gabriel Michael, the fourth of his seven children. Named for two
archangels, Gabriel Michael was born prematurely, at 20 weeks, on
Oct. 11, 1996, and lived two hours outside the womb.
"Upon their son's death, Rick and Karen Santorum opted not to bring
his body to a funeral home. Instead, they bundled him in a blanket
and drove him to Karen's parents' home in Pittsburgh. There, they
spent several hours kissing and cuddling Gabriel with his three
siblings, ages 6, 4 and 1 1/2. They took photos, sang lullabies in
his ear and held a private Mass.
"'That's my little guy,' Santorum says, pointing to the photo of
Gabriel, in which his tiny physique is framed by his father's hand.
The senator often speaks of his late son in the present tense. It
is a rare instance in which he talks softly.
"He and Karen brought Gabriel's body home so their children could
'absorb and understand that they had a brother,' Santorum says. 'We
wanted them to see that he was real,' not an abstraction, he says.
Not a 'fetus,' either, as Rick and Karen were appalled to see him
described -- 'a 20-week-old fetus' -- on a hospital form. They
changed the form to read '20-week-old baby.'"
|11.8.06 @ 5:07PM|#
If a 5 year old at a birthday party drops his cake and ice cream and starts bawling, are you filled with sympathy or do you smile and think it's kind of funny? Maybe both, right? Would you start threatening to crush the testicles of the adult next to you who thinks it is a little funny? Gosh, I hope not. What is wrong with having a little fun because a child is bawling her eyes out (or maybe bawling her eyes in, as it appears in the photo) over nothing? If I were her father, I would put my arm around her, smile, and tell her it's okay, and try to get her to laugh at herself for taking things so seriously. If she is going to have the opportunity to look back at this photo and laugh in 10 or 20 years, I can look at it and laugh right now.
|11.8.06 @ 5:08PM|#
I must say that the crying fat girl pick isn't nearly as funny as the hystrionics on display here.
|11.8.06 @ 5:09PM|#
Joe, you're missing the whole point of this thread.
Santorum is a political opponent. That makes everything about him
and his family fair game. I mean, sure his kid was upset to see her
dad suffer a crushing loss after an exhausting few months, an event
she does not really understand and that makes it scarier, and
little kids have a way of picking up the vibes of people around
them and magnifying them. This was a bad, bad day for her (of
course, as per Jon H it is nothing compared to being napalmed and
bayonetted by baby-killing US marines). But that cannot, and should
not, stop us from mocking her in a public way (and e-mailing /
linking the hell out of this photo), and squeezing her suffering
for all it is worth. Let us all follow Number 6's exemplary
behavior in this regard.
Pro Libertate: Of course the loss of a newborn is a heart wrenching
event. Coupled perhaps with post-partum, it is more than some
people can endure, so it is not surprising that they did something
we (who thankfully have never been through that) find strange. But
their behavior seems odd to us, and that is as good a reason as any
to bring it up 10 years later in an unrelated discussion, because
it might make a political opponent look bad. Plus, as we have all
learned here today, there is nothing funnier than dead babies,
especially in a good cause!
|11.8.06 @ 5:10PM|#
Wow.
OK, (1) anybody who doesn't find the above passage creepy needs to
get their creep-o-meter checked, and (2) anybody who thinks Rick
Santorum makes any distinction between the public and private
sphere is insane.
|11.8.06 @ 5:11PM|#
Please, please keep going aaa aaa! You have truly made an otherwise good day great.
|11.8.06 @ 5:13PM|#
Stop blaming other people for your own behavior.
And stop being so hateful and juvenile.
To that I'd label as "incredibly stupid" the remarks that Santorum
had his family out there for political reasons. Number 1,
thankfully this douchebag's political career is over. Number 2,
just maybe he and his supporters really believe the "family values
stuff" that we all mock around here and he thought that it was
appropriate to have his family with him as he gave his concession
(or whatever) speech.
|11.8.06 @ 5:13PM|#
In the interests of shooting this one off of the
bad-taste-o-meter:
Why are the kids freaked out? Because their father told that if he
lost, then Gabriel Michael would come to visit again.
|11.8.06 @ 5:14PM|#
Number 6: "aaa aaa: Seriously, do you realize how stupid you
sound? Here, I'll help: why not accuse me of thinking the gas
chambers are funny?"
But I'm following your example, laughing at the little kid of
someone I disagree with, trying not to be "righteously indignant"
about dead baby jokes. You're my moral superior, show me the way!
I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm agreeing with you. Let's keep
bashing the 8 year old girl!
Lazlo|11.8.06 @ 5:14PM|#
Actually--and I mean this in all seriousness--why were the
kids so upset?
They've spent the last eight or nine months listening to Daddy tell
the world that he stands for all that is Right and Good; that God
is on his side and that his opponents are all Heathens and Perverts
and Terrorists who represent the forces of Satan.
Then, whoops, Daddy loses the election.
So if you're an eight-year-old from a highly religious family with
a deep, abiding belief in the reality of God and Jesus and the
Devil, that must mean that God has abandoned
Daddy. Maybe Evil has just taken over the world, or perhaps the
Tribulation has started and since they're all still here, they
somehow missed the Rapture-Bus. I'd be crying too!
|11.8.06 @ 5:14PM|#
JF- Or maybe Santorum's use of his family was cynically calculated. Given what you know about politicians, which seems more likely?
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:16PM|#
Honestly people, fat people are funny. Fat kids are funnier.
Crying fat kids are funnier yet. Crying fat kids holding dolls
dressed exactly like them are hilarious.
But you really had to see the oldest boy crying his eyes out. It
was definitely a "parents in the chili" cry.
|11.8.06 @ 5:16PM|#
"'That's my little guy,' Santorum says, pointing to the
photo of Gabriel, in which his tiny physique is framed by his
father's hand. The senator often speaks of his late son in the
present tense. It is a rare instance in which he talks
softly.
Taking everyone's word that Santorum is a complete cockknocker as
gospel, as a father I just don't find the way he treated his
deceased son that horrifying. The man was grieving. The fact that
he chose to publicize it is far more unsavory.
Jennifer|11.8.06 @ 5:17PM|#
To that I'd label as "incredibly stupid" the remarks that
Santorum had his family out there for political reasons. Number 1,
thankfully this douchebag's political career is over. Number 2,
just maybe he and his supporters really believe the "family values
stuff" that we all mock around here and he thought that it was
appropriate to have his family with him as he gave his concession
(or whatever) speech.
As someone pointed out already, it was probably around midnight
when the photo was taken. My own family had some pretty messed-up
values, but when I was eight my parents damn well knew better than
to force me to stay up that late at a noisy, boring grown-ups'
function related to my father's career and then trot me out on
stage while he made his speeches. To hell with Santorum's so-called
"family values."
|11.8.06 @ 5:20PM|#
Number 6,
I did say "just maybe" :)
However, like I said, his political career is over, which might
eliminate the need for cynical manipulations.
Or, considering what a prick he is, who knows? Maybe I'm just
looking at this from the view of someone who doesn't think that no
matter how bad a person might be, their kids don't deserve to take
shit just for that reason.
Timothy|11.8.06 @ 5:20PM|#
Look, the two funniest things that can ever be on TV are a crying fat person and a crying kid. A crying fat kid is the perfect storm of comedy gold.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:21PM|#
So if you're an eight-year-old from a highly religious
family with a deep, abiding belief in the reality of God and Jesus
and the Devil, that must mean that God has abandoned Daddy. Maybe
Evil has just taken over the world, or perhaps the Tribulation has
started and since they're all still here, they somehow missed the
Rapture-Bus. I'd be crying too!
The gay men are coming and bringing their goats. And they are all
going to rape daddy.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:23PM|#
The fact that he chose to publicize it is far more
unsavory.
You get prize. What you want?
|11.8.06 @ 5:26PM|#
Oy. For the benefit of commenters who don't share my sense
of humor, I'm not "going after" Santorum's daughter, who I'm about
as sure as one can be will never, ever read this post and have her
feelings hurt. Just making a joke about how good it is to be rid of
this guy.
Then pick a picture where Santorum is featured more prominently. As
the picture focuses on his daughter a perfectly acceptable reading
of this write-up is that you are taking some pleasure in watching
an eight year old cry.
_____________________
As for the "stage dressing" deal, it is common to have your family
at such events, so that criticism has no merit whatsover.
_____________________
Clearly I have no sympathies for most of the positions of Rick
Santorum, at the same time I am not going to anonymously beat up on
his children on a blog.
|11.8.06 @ 5:26PM|#
FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 5:13pm | #
In the interests of shooting this one off of the
bad-taste-o-meter:
Why are the kids freaked out? Because their father told that if he
lost, then Gabriel Michael would come to visit again.
or, he told them that if he lost, they'd all go to be with Gabriel
Michael.
that said, although their handling of the dead baby is unusual, I
have to give them respect for showing their kids the reality of
their dead sibling, not trying to protect them from unpleasant
truths or deny the existence of unpleasant truths
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:30PM|#
As someone pointed out already, it was probably around
midnight when the photo was taken.
It was 10 PM
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:30PM|#
However, like I said, his political career is over, which
might eliminate the need for cynical manipulations.
PA conservatives are already asking him to run for governor.
|11.8.06 @ 5:31PM|#
I don't know about the handling of the baby with such young kids. It has a flavor of that Simpsons episode where Homer says something like, "Say your prayers, Bart, you might wake up dead."
|11.8.06 @ 5:31PM|#
As for the "stage dressing" deal, it is common to have your
family at such events, so that criticism has no merit
whatsover.
Unless, of course, it's contemptible even if everyone does it.
|11.8.06 @ 5:34PM|#
Why is she crying? I dunno, maybe because children often
love their parents?
Yes, and that makes this picture not funny because?
Seinfeld was on for what, ten years, doing this very type of humor?
Please.
|11.8.06 @ 5:36PM|#
Greg,
Being the heartless, morally bankrupt, etc. atheist that I am, I
try not to find humor in the wholely innocent suffering of
others.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:37PM|#
Why is she crying? I dunno, maybe because children often
love their parents?
Crying fat kids, who love their parents, and have dolls dressed
exactly like them are hilarious.
|11.8.06 @ 5:38PM|#
Zeno- Much as I hate the following phrase, it's appropriate here: If you don't know, I'm not going to bother trying to explain it to you.
|11.8.06 @ 5:39PM|#
My friend and I watched the concession speech last night, and
his first comment, in less than 10 seconds, was, "His son is gay."
Not a slam, but he's one of those people who think they have
perfect gaydar, and looking at one of his sons, he swore he could
see it.
Might be interesting, in light of the predictions above.
|11.8.06 @ 5:39PM|#
Being the heartless, morally bankrupt, etc. atheist that I
am, I try not to find humor in the wholely innocent suffering of
others.
Ok, I can appreciate that, but how deep is the suffering of an
eight year old who is crying because her millionaire father just
lost an election? This is no different than enjoying watching Duke
players cry after a 3rd round exit.
|11.8.06 @ 5:42PM|#
Number 6,
Then you have chosen to close off conversation on the matter. Not
much I can do about that.
|11.8.06 @ 5:44PM|#
Zeno-True enough. If you don't immediately grasp why using your children as political props is repugnant, then there's no point in conversing about the matter.
|11.8.06 @ 5:44PM|#
Greg,
The Duke players are active participants (though I still wouldn't
mock them - or at the very least I would try not to), this kid
isn't. She's just the kid of a man who lost a Senate race; she
didn't run for the office, etc.
|11.8.06 @ 5:47PM|#
I try not to find humor in the wholely innocent suffering of others.
She is not suffering! Her daddy lost an election. He did not die.
He is not going away for a long time. She is not in physical pain.
No one is laughing at her suffering, because she is not suffering.
She is acting like a brat. I can laugh at brats.
|11.8.06 @ 5:48PM|#
Number 6,
That's the problem; your assertion is based on an undemonstrated
assumption. Which is of course why it is not per se contemptable to
have your kids with you during a concession speech.
Number 6|10.6.09 @ 4:10PM|#
Three years later: FUCK YOU ZENO!!! YOU AND YOUR FUCKING PARADOX!
I guess I haven't grown much these past several years.
|11.8.06 @ 5:51PM|#
highnumber,
Apparently you are intimately aware with the inner workings of this
kid's brain; I am not. She appears to be suffering in the
photograph and that's the position which I will hold to.
|11.8.06 @ 5:51PM|#
She's just the kid of a man who lost a Senate race; she
didn't run for the office, etc.
Ok, so it is no different than laughing at sobbing Packer fans
after finally accepting the demise of their once great quarterback.
If anything, that makes enjoying it all the more harmless. You
didn't enjoy the tears of JJ Reddick? You truly have no soul.
Denying the ability to enjoy the extremely minor sufferings of
others is to deny very evident human nature.
|11.8.06 @ 5:52PM|#
The gay men are coming and bringing their goats. And they
are all going to rape daddy.
ok. THAT,is funny.
|11.8.06 @ 5:54PM|#
I'll end with this non-sarcastic comment. There are not that
many libertarian web sites out there, and it is unfortunate to see
this one sliding into DailyKos-hood. I know the magazine (and web
site) is being reoriented towards a somewhat different market
segment, and I guess you have to go where the eyeballs are, but it
is a little disappointing how the quality of the "Hit & Run"
blog has deteriorated. I would think people here would stand up
more for a core libertarian value like personal privacy, but I
suppose that is not the new target audience.
If you had a pic of Santorum crying, then unleash the hounds! He
chose to be a public figure (the treatment here gives you a good
idea why many very highly capable people don't). But I don't like
to see attacks on the small children of politicians: it is not like
the kids chose to be up there on stage. Yeah, they shouldn't be
used as props, but that does not make us any better for making fun
of a crying 8 year old girl holding a doll. Turning the personal
into the political, and vice versa, is unhealthy for a democracy.
Sorry for injecting a serious comment into all the levity.
Plus, I've never had a child die, and I don't have any idea how I
would handle it, but unless they sell it on eBay I'm not about to
criticize someone else for how they dealt with it.
Does that make me "righteously indignant"? I don't know, you tell
me: let the ad hominens begin! Calling Number 6... [To allow you to
focus your vitriol more effectively, I'm an atheist libertarian,
non-US citizen living outside the US, with 2 small girls at home, I
support gay marriage, and would not have voted for Santorum. I
don't like to see people pick on little kids for fun, and I think
it is both bad luck and in bad taste to make fun of someone's
deceased child.]
|11.8.06 @ 5:56PM|#
aaa aaa aaa,
You are a Canadian, aren't you? That would explain a lot. Cultural
differences and all that...
|11.8.06 @ 5:58PM|#
A vile swine. Indeed "A Generation of Swine" shoots low.
Upside of pic: by widely posting them, we may forstall anyone
breeding with the offspring.
Crackpot Right Sunnyside Take: Santorum free for Supreme Court, or
Sec Def, after folks remember (any takers here) about Gates DCI
confirmation hearing.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:58PM|#
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/061108/480/a7e555806d1144489f0158b8d4b3e7c3
THERE HE IS!
After Santorum goes for the photo op moment with the crying fat
girl, we can see his son in the background!
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 5:58PM|#
Also good:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/061108/ids_photos_ts/r1012833467.jpg
|11.8.06 @ 5:59PM|#
Thanks for participating mister, um, aaa aaa aaaa (if that is your real name). You did a much better job of expressing your feelings on the matter than I did. What with your not invoking testicle crushing and all.
Bob Z|11.8.06 @ 5:59PM|#
I think this is the most entertaining thread I've ever seen on
Reason. Thank God they traded in the server squirrels for server
terriers or some such.
As a Republican-leaning Libertarian, I'm not thrilled with the
overall election outcome, but the Casey win has to be one of the
silver linings for me. Santorum was a total douche and gave
credence to the left wing cries about a theocracy and a GOP
Taliban. The man was so arrogantly pious I'm surprised he didn't go
around wearing a halo. The big family is all part of the act so he
had to drag young kids on stage after midnight. I'm convinced if
Santorum lived circa 1 A.D. he would have been a Pharisee.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 6:01PM|#
The big family is all part of the act so he had to drag
young kids on stage after midnight.
It was 10 PM
|11.8.06 @ 6:02PM|#
Maybe I'm just a sick bastidge, but I laughed so hard over this and the fark thread that I literally had teaars coming out of my eyes.
|11.8.06 @ 6:04PM|#
Aaa aaa aaaa. Is that near Castle Aaa aaa aaaa?
You know, another way of looking at this is that at least people
here are mocking some kid rather than lusting for her. The Gore and
Bush children have to be kept in protective custody, even though
they are adults.
Jennifer|11.8.06 @ 6:05PM|#
It was 10 PM
Still damned late for an eight-year-old kid to be kept up at a
boring grown-up function. A responsible parent would know
that. Santorum apparently does not.
M|11.8.06 @ 6:08PM|#
Has anyone reading this thread changed his or her opinion about its subject or learned something substantive from reading opposing perspectives?
Bob Z|11.8.06 @ 6:08PM|#
TPG,
I stand corrected. Now I do have to wonder, why there was so much
bawling? I was trying to be charitable, but now I'm with some
commenters up-thread; what was said to these children to make them
so upset? You lost your seat in the Senate. So what? We don't
execute the losers in this country. I would not put making his own
children cry to engender sympathy past this ass-clown.
|11.8.06 @ 6:09PM|#
Good guess, highnumber! Maybe it is a cultural thing, but I
think it is more because I have two small kids. Before I was a
parent I'd read some story about something bad happening to a kid
and not really feel much about it. Now I visualize it happening to
one of my kids and I have more of an emotional reaction. I can see
where MK is coming from with his remark.
Sure, the kid may be crying because she wanted to wear a different
color of shoes (the parents out there know what I'm talking about),
but probably she's crying because she's genuinely upset about
something bad which has happened to her father that she does not
fully understand. There is a difference between criticizing her
father, and making fun of her because she is sad. I just find it
all in bad taste, and unfortunate that people find the need to go
after the family of politicians they oppose. And the dead baby
comments are just weird and disturbing.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 6:12PM|#
Still damned late for an eight-year-old kid to be kept up at
a boring grown-up function. A responsible parent would know that.
Santorum apparently does not.
I was just point out that it was 10 PM. I have no dog in the time
hunt.
I just like laughing at crying fat kids. MORE HFCS FOR THE SANTORUM
KIDS!
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 6:13PM|#
but now I'm with some commenters up-thread; what was said to
these children to make them so upset?
Don't know, but it was all set up for that money shot of comfort
that I posted above.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 6:14PM|#
but probably she's crying because she's genuinely upset
about something bad which has happened to her father that she does
not fully understand.
I'd cry too if the gay boogeymen were coming to sodomize daddy
straight to hell.
|11.8.06 @ 6:15PM|#
Thomas Paine's Goiter: "I'd cry too if the gay boogeymen were
coming to sodomize daddy straight to hell."
And that's when I finally gave up on this website... Have fun
everyone!
|11.8.06 @ 6:16PM|#
Jose Ortega y Gasset,
Seconded. And, like aaa aaa, I suppose that it's being a parent
that makes me question how somebody can make a statement like "Man,
I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of a small
child in days" and find so many people willing to stretch
rationality to defend it.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 6:18PM|#
And that's when I finally gave up on this website... Have
fun everyone!
What do I win?
Bob Z|11.8.06 @ 6:21PM|#
I'm not a big TV watcher so someone chime in. I know bringing your family on stage as a prop is the politcal norm, but, seriously, is it customary for the family of a defeated politician to weep like this on stage? Now we just need the rending of garments and the gnashing of teeth. The crying fat girl is funny in a dark way, but overall this just adds to the whole creepy factor. I suppose now they'll go around for the next month in sackcloth and ashes.
|11.8.06 @ 6:22PM|#
M asked:
Has anyone reading this thread changed his or her opinion about
its subject or learned something substantive from reading opposing
perspectives?
No, good sir, but most of us have had a good laugh.
|11.8.06 @ 6:22PM|#
And the dead baby comments are just weird and disturbing.
Dead baby jokes are funny, partly because they are taboo, but not
funny in the context of a thread about a family that has lost a
baby. I agree with you about that. How they grieved may seem creepy
or weird to us, but I will not judge. I have no idea how handle
that, so again I agree with you. Chuckling at an 8 year old's
bratty display, maybe it takes a United Statesian to do that.
|11.8.06 @ 6:25PM|#
"Holy fuck, would you people just relax? It's not like anyone is
up in the little girl's face screaming 'boooyaaaah, ya little twat!
Daddy LOST! Your daddy sucks, so do you! Now you're gonna have to
move to the poorhouse! HAHAHAHA!'"
Judging by this thread, I'm guessing only due to lack of
opportunity.
I'll give Julian a pass because it seemed to me he knew he was
being crass and heartless but he felt what he felt and decided to
get a laugh out of it.
|11.8.06 @ 6:27PM|#
I have to disagree. I don't find a kid crying funny.
But the zombie, he looks like he just spotted daddy's special
"masseur" in the audience.
Kap|11.8.06 @ 6:36PM|#
And the dead baby comments are just weird and
disturbing.
Santorum makes a concerted point of describing how he and his wife
crossed out "fetus" and changed it to "baby" on the death
certificate. For someone who has made a career of religious-right
political beliefs (read: pro-life, it's a baby, not a
fetus) it seems he is the one who put the baby onto the
playing field.
I mean, grieve and the world grieves with you, but use your dead
baby as a political prop, and reap what you sow.
(Or "sew", depending on how depraved ManDogPig's family ceremony
was.)
George Mason\'s Tonsils|11.8.06 @ 6:38PM|#
Still like libertarians, but not so fond of Reason anymore. Goodbye.
Jon|11.8.06 @ 6:38PM|#
For once, a South Park reference is the least funny thing about an H&R blog post. Bravo.
|11.8.06 @ 6:39PM|#
In the immortal words from the FAR SIDE:
"Look, Harold! Nerds! And some nerdlings!"
|11.8.06 @ 6:39PM|#
"I'll give Julian a pass because it seemed to me he knew he
was being crass and heartless but he felt what he felt and decided
to get a laugh out of it."
Oooh, how Big of you.
|11.8.06 @ 6:43PM|#
I feel really bad for the girl. How long will it be before she understands that her dad lost because he is a colossal ass prick?
|11.8.06 @ 6:46PM|#
I have to disagree. I don't find a kid crying funny.
To all the commenters who feel that way, imagine that you are a
senator. (You don't have to be anything like Santorum. You can be a
good politician - the mythical libertarian senator.) You lose an
election. Your 8 year old daughter bawls like that next to you on
stage as you concede defeat. Of course you wouldn't laugh in her
face, you would comfort her. Later you sit down with your family
and look at pictures of that night. You wouldn't see this picture
and have a chuckle with your daughter for overreacting?
|11.8.06 @ 6:47PM|#
"Oooh, how Big of you."
Thanks. That's just the kind of guy I am.
I'm not saying it wasn't funny. It was. I'm just saying crass can
be funny, but it's still crass.
Jim Bob|11.8.06 @ 6:54PM|#
/reads thread
/head asplodes
Are you people serious? 200+ comments about THIS? For fuck's sake
explain to me why humor must be in good taste for some of you to
find it amusing.
MisterDNA|11.8.06 @ 6:55PM|#
The women of the Santorum clan look like they could easily form a Shaggs tribute band.
|11.8.06 @ 6:56PM|#
I realize a certian percentage of people will just never find
something like this amusing and, eh, whatever, but FWIW, as a
couple others have noted:
(1) I very much doubt Rick Santorum's kid is even allowed on the
Internet, let alone a Hit & Run reader. Nothing we write here
affects her life for better or worse.
(2) Nothing actually bad has happened to her.
(3) The South Park headline and the "in days" were meant to convey
a certain amount of tongue-in-cheekness here. As in "Santorum's so
awful that if his children are crying, it's a good thing."
On the other hand, I am, in fact a bad person, so go ahead, crush
my testicles.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 6:57PM|#
but, seriously, is it customary for the family of a defeated
politician to weep like this on stage?
I dunno cuz I skipped the election coverage and was watching House
with the Old Lady. It was a good one too. It covered the DEA
cracking down on pain medication AND the power of the Polezei to
make one's life miserable.
|11.8.06 @ 7:01PM|#
/reads thread
/head asplodes
Are you people serious? 200+ comments about THIS? For fuck's sake
explain to me why humor must be in good taste for some of you to
find it amusing.
It's for the children.
In all seriousness, political correctness has never been so
self-righteous. Oh wait, it's always this self righteous.
|11.8.06 @ 7:10PM|#
toshiro,
I don't know why, but that was one of the funniest things I've ever
read.
|11.8.06 @ 7:11PM|#
Julian,
I, for one, do not consider you to be a bad person. Consider this
your "Tim Cavanaugh rips people for taking vacations in Thailand
right after the tsunami" moment.
|11.8.06 @ 7:12PM|#
BTW, Julian, if you ever have kids, and a picture comes out of one of them crying, and someone who dislikes you posts something similar to what you did today, I expect you'll take it like a good sport.
Jesse Walker|11.8.06 @ 7:19PM|#
Y'know, while it's pretty clear to me that Julian didn't mean
his post the way some commenters have taken it (if you took that
line about pleasure in the suffering of a little girl literally,
you're pretty tone-deaf), I have to say that a lot of the
commenters who have been sticking up for it sound like sociopaths.
The only people I've known who think it's innately funny to see a
kid cry were fifth-grade bullies.
I also can't help noticing that some of you react to the thought of
Santorum's dead-baby ritual the way Santorum reacts to the thought
of two men falling in love. I guess tolerance has its limits,
eh?
Eddy|11.8.06 @ 7:19PM|#
You would cry too if you knew that guy just got loads of free time to spend with you.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 7:21PM|#
The only people I've known who think it's innately funny to
see a kid cry were fifth-grade bullies.
When my two year old throws tantrums or overreacts or brings the
drama, I laugh. It's funny.
|11.8.06 @ 7:26PM|#
highnumber - what can I say? I just find the zombie and the
bird-flipper funnier.
My crassometer is calibrated differently, that's all.
|11.8.06 @ 7:28PM|#
Sorry, but only polito-geeks in certain corners of the
blogosphere are aware of that slang. It's truly an inside joke, no
pun intended.
You're joking, right? It's been referenced in Time, Newsweek and
the Economist, to say nothing of the fact that
spreadingsantorum.com comes up before Santorum's campaign website
when you google his name. "Santorum's Google problem" has been all
over the cable news for months.
Libertarians love privacy as long as it doesn't deprive them of
the ability to merciless redicule someone who doesn't agree with
them
Your right to privacy does not trump my right to ridicule
you.
Has anyone reading this thread changed his or her opinion about
its subject or learned something substantive from reading opposing
perspectives?
Sometimes, we just enjoy talking to each other. Wow. Imagine
that.
|11.8.06 @ 7:39PM|#
The picture was taken just after Senator Frothymixture mentioned the upside is that he will now have more time to spend with his wife and children.
M|11.8.06 @ 7:42PM|#
[M:] Has anyone reading this thread changed his or her opinion
about its subject or learned something substantive from reading
opposing perspectives?
Sometimes, we just enjoy talking to each other. Wow. Imagine
that.
It was a question for information, not a criticism.
But please don\'t hurt me|11.8.06 @ 7:46PM|#
go ahead, crush my testicles
After the courage you showed here, that would be gelding the
lily.
|11.8.06 @ 7:48PM|#
After 230 posts, it seems to almost refute Godwin's (it's not
just a good idea, it's the) Law that no one has mentioned how much
the Santorums look like the model NAZI family.
(No need to thank me. Somebody hasd to kill this thread.)
|11.8.06 @ 7:49PM|#
Y'know, while it's pretty clear to me that Julian didn't
mean his post the way some commenters have taken it (if you took
that line about pleasure in the suffering of a little girl
literally, you're pretty tone-deaf), I have to say that a lot of
the commenters who have been sticking up for it sound like
sociopaths. The only people I've known who think it's innately
funny to see a kid cry were fifth-grade bullies.
I suspect some see the Santorum's of the world as projecting
themselves as innocence abused. Maybe some of the apparently
callous among us are reacting to that.
...also, many libertarians have become indifferent to "but what
about the children" arguments. ...maybe some of them are reacting
to that too.
|11.8.06 @ 7:52PM|#
I'd probably cry like that too if I thought I might have to move back to Pittsburgh or some other god awful, Pennsylvania place.
|11.8.06 @ 7:55PM|#
Just when I stopped laughing, Thomas Paine's Goiter posts more pics, and I realize that the doll she is holding looks like Linda Tripp ...
|11.8.06 @ 8:05PM|#
On the other hand, I am, in fact a bad person
Oh, well ok then.
When my two year old throws tantrums or overreacts or brings
the drama, I laugh. It's funny.
I have as well in the past when my child was throwing a temper
tantrum. I don't think this girl is being bratty at all and I don't
know where you are getting the impression that she is.
I'll say this for Julian, as tasteless and emotionally retarded as
this whole topic was, some of the commenters did him one better and
it was an interesting thread.
|11.8.06 @ 8:11PM|#
As the child of for US Congressman, I was almost always in bed
on election night and only at the HQ for the first win. After that,
I was kept home.
And I do sympathize with this girl. Although my dad retired without
losing, I know it would have been tough to see him get
whacked.
But Santorum should not have let that happen. He knew he was toast
and crying kids is just a photo op in the making. He should not of
brought his kids up on stage. No way.
All that said, it is kinda funny. That guy was trash and has been
indifferent to his consitutents for a while. A pic of a crying kid
is no big deal.
And she has been photographed so much that she won't even remember
this pic in a few years, or she won't care.
I remember when a news show did a story about my dad. They wanted
to show me going off to school and they asked if I would hug my dad
or kiss him on the cheek. Well, we're anglos and we don't do that.
I found it very embarassing, but you know, what the hell. Life goes
on.
david tiley|11.8.06 @ 8:12PM|#
I though that policing people's sense of humour was something that the Evil PC Left did?
|11.8.06 @ 8:13PM|#
Come on, the best part of the photo isn't the crying 8 year old or the wide-eyed son. It's the teenage daughter in the background, who clearly doesn't want to be there and, like any other adolescent, thinks her dad is a douche bag.
|11.8.06 @ 8:21PM|#
TWC, I love that show! I was just today thinking that House, MD is the most (or only, so still the most) libertarian show on TV, with the constant flipping the bird at authority and drug use and all.
happy|11.8.06 @ 8:22PM|#
Holy crap, that doll really does look like Linda Tripp. U can't stop laughing.
happy|11.8.06 @ 8:24PM|#
But what would a talking Linda Tripp doll say?
"Don't go to the dry cleaners."
"Speak into this potted plant."
|11.8.06 @ 8:25PM|#
That kid on the right has vengeance on his mind. Coming to a clock tower near you...
|11.8.06 @ 8:35PM|#
mediageek writes:"Is it just me, or does The Mrs. look like
she's really jonesing for a Highball?"
Nah, the Santorums aren't into anything so exotic. They're strictly
missionary through a rough canvas sheet with a hole cut in it.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 9:14PM|#
I have as well in the past when my child was throwing a
temper tantrum. I don't think this girl is being bratty at all and
I don't know where you are getting the impression that she
is.
It's the same damn thing. She's bringing the drama.
|11.8.06 @ 9:22PM|#
That photo was funny.
Not in the haha little kids suffering is funny, but in the
everything else way. Heck I've seen my nephew whom I love greatly
run and do a comical spill and come up crying and I laughed then. I
of course went and helped him immediantly, but it was still funny
and so it this.
Anyways I doubt it will hurt her later in life, I mean when Katie
Holmes was the president's daughter she had all sorts of
embarrasing photo's taken, and she came out ok......never mind.
thoreau|11.8.06 @ 9:22PM|#
247 posts? Wow. Over this? Wow.
This is what I get for being gone for a few hours.
happy|11.8.06 @ 9:23PM|#
I almost hate to do this but crying 8year old video is
here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4RtG_ixGIns&mode=related&search=
(Santorum was, in fact, quite gracious in defeat.)
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 9:30PM|#
Poor, poor fat girl. Do your tears smell like
ham?
See now THAT was funny, too. But man, you're definitely on a
snowboard to hell with greased runners for that one. You better
hope there ain't no God.
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 9:33PM|#
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4RtG_ixGIns&mode=related&search=
Yeah, see, there it is. The son on Santorum's right. THAT is pure
gold.
|11.8.06 @ 9:34PM|#
I don't think anyone has addressed the wide view of this photo.
It seems to have a range of emotion like the Kubler Ross stages of
grief.
Denial and isolation: "This is not happening to me." (Mr.
Santorum)
Anger: "How dare God do this to me." (Younger Daughter)
Bargaining: "Just let me live to see my son graduate." (Mrs.
Santorum)
Depression: "I can't bear to face going through this, putting my
family through this." (Elder Daughter)
Acceptance: "I'm ready, I don't want to struggle anymore." (Moon
Struck Son)
BTW, I haven't laughed this hard about a post in quite a while. It
made my day. I'm still laughing.
Kap|11.8.06 @ 9:37PM|#
247 posts? Wow. Over this? Wow.
That's nothing. The South Park episode starting right now is
labeled by the DirecTV system as the very "Scott Tenorman Must Die"
episody of yummy tears fame, although what is actually playing is
part 1 of last week's episode.
Clearly, God is on our side.
happy|11.8.06 @ 9:37PM|#
"BTW, I haven't laughed this hard about a post in quite a while.
It made my day. I'm still laughing."
The pics that show the Linda Tripp doll are the best. Way better
than the crying kids, IMO.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 9:38PM|#
Bio, the DEA references on House last night perked my attention right up and the cop, well, the cop is just an really interesting twist (don't want to screw it up for anyone who Tivo'd it). Of course, the plot lines are pushed to the almost to the point where suspense of disability is difficult but the dialogue and the characters are just great. I love the show as well. It is the one show that we do watch.
|11.8.06 @ 9:42PM|#
Damn. Once again I arrive at a party after all the drugs are
gone.
I think Lazlo had the best take on the whole thing.
It reminds me of the classic exchange:
Don't you know what good clean fun is?
No. What good is it?
Narr
|11.8.06 @ 10:01PM|#
The kid with the glasses looks like the cannibal in Sin City...
remember him?
Funny stuff. Thanks for this one!
|11.8.06 @ 10:06PM|#
The comments ya'll have posted show you to be such hypocrites. You claim that Santorum is intolerant merely because he has defended traditional morality. Yet, you have no tolerance for his defense of marriage and hate him because he has refused to allow a redefination of marriage. You claim that he is mean spirited even though he has attacked homosexual activity not individual people. Yet you make personal on his family in a most hateful and cruel manner way. Have you no shame?
marley|11.8.06 @ 10:09PM|#
Fuck Rick Santorum and fuck his family. These freaks have been trying to intrude into everyone else's personal lives for years. Turnabout is fair play.
Daniel|11.8.06 @ 10:11PM|#
There is a silver lining however in the defeat that the Republicans have suffered. The leadership in the House and Senate (with the exception of Santorum) had gotten more concerned with maintaining its power than with supporting conservative principles. This defeat will drive the party back to the base. In two years we will come back with truly conservative candidates who are willing to stand for their priciples. So, thanks for the help and enjoy your victory while it lasts.
Jesse|11.8.06 @ 10:11PM|#
If you don't like the comment about the kid because you felt bad for her, then you're a bleeding-heart liberal. Ha ha!
|11.8.06 @ 10:12PM|#
for you whiners......ive seen tangeled heaps of corpses of kids
(a lot skinnier) like Santorums unfortunate spawn. products of self
righteous politicians no better than him. They are shrugged off-
collateral damage. Tough luck. Suck it up.
And here, now, sanctimonious twats lecture on us laughin at live
kids, props of thier live, vile parents.
ah, yes: priorities.
bugger off, im enjoyin myself.....
|11.8.06 @ 10:13PM|#
I'm a little surprised by people who can't understand why the girl is crying and are devising all sort of whacky theories to explain why. I would have cried when I was eight if one my parents had been publicly humiliated, which is what a crushing defeat like this certainly is. As for whether the kids should have been up at 10 P.M., probably not, but is one incident really enough to condemn them as irresponsible parents? If it were someone you liked, no one would think so.
|11.8.06 @ 10:13PM|#
Politicians cannot put their children on stage for their public appearances, then ask for privacy. This is fair, if tasteless, commentary. And it's pretty funny too.
|11.8.06 @ 10:16PM|#
I think it's cute how you all are getting so animated and excited about the comments you're putting under a blog entry. Carry on and rotate yourself towards the sun once yearly.
|11.8.06 @ 10:16PM|#
Its a common practice for kids to appear on stage for acceptance and concession speeches. Typically they are treated with respect.
happy|11.8.06 @ 10:35PM|#
As I mentioned earlier, my father was in the House of
Representatives. Those of you who are all up in arms about this are
taking it way too seriously.
As the child of a politician she has been photographed, filmed,
dragged to every fvcking farm show in the state etc. etc. etc. This
one picture at this one moment is not going to scar her. She is
sad, her dad lost. You can be sure that she worked to the extent
that she could to help on his campaign, almost all kids of
politiicians do.
But at the tender age of eight she probably has had more exposure
to being the focus of public events then many will get until they
are well into adulthood. This photo is no big deal.
Now that said, the 14 year old kid who is crying like mad. About
him I know one thing. He woke up this morning and thanked God that
he is home-schooled.
|11.8.06 @ 10:44PM|#
You people are simply awful. Don't tell me you guys never crapped your diaper when you were eight.
|11.8.06 @ 10:53PM|#
I have to admit it.
I'm laughing at almost everything here, and I feel REALLY dirty for
it. And who said the road to hell is paved with good
intentions...(sigh...giggle...cackle!). I really am terrible.
As for everyone saying his kids are fair game...wah?
It's not the kids who are fair game but the man himself. This is
just as depressingly familiar as all the bad and terrible Chelsea
Clinton jokes.
As for the girl being a brat, give me a freakin' break! She's 8
years old for crying out loud! Hell, I cried when I was eight
because I forgot my notepad to take assignments for class when I
really tried hard to remember! And hell, people in my grade were
STILL having problems not pissing on themselves because our school
wouldn't allow you to go to the restroom until recess which caused
a many unfortunate accident that made my shoes smell terrible
:(
Laughing at the weirdness of the Santorums is one thing. Telling
really nasty things about the 8 year old daughter is really fucked
up...
Thomas Paine\'s Goiter|11.8.06 @ 10:53PM|#
You people are simply awful. Don't tell me you guys never
crapped your diaper when you were eight.
HA!
|11.8.06 @ 11:06PM|#
Could there be an ingredient of envy in this hostility? Would you prefer her to be hardened, like you?
|11.8.06 @ 11:07PM|#
Daniel
"Have you no shame?"
None whatsoever.
Godfrey
"You people are simply awful."
And your point is?
"Don't tell me you guys never crapped your diaper when you were
eight."
I peed my pants in front of friends when I was twelve. I
survived.
|11.8.06 @ 11:16PM|#
"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture, ... When the
culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is
no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat
of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at
the center of the storm."
Rick Santorum quote
"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual
(gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you
have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have
the right to adultery, ... You have the right to anything. Does
that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it
does."
Rick Santorum quote
"I don't think it works. I think it's harmful to women, I think
it's harmful to our society to have a society that says that sex
outside of marriage is something that should be encouraged or
tolerated, particularly among the young. I think it has, as we've
seen, very harmful long-term consequences for society. So birth
control to me enables that and I don't think it's a healthy thing
for our country."
--Saying that birth control is harmful to women, society and our
country. CN8's "Nitebeat with Barry Nolan", July 28, 2005.
"The notion that college education is a cost-effective way to help
poor, low-skill, unmarried mothers with high school diplomas or
GEDs move up the economic ladder is just wrong."
--Arguing that poor, unwed mothers don't really need college
educations. It Takes a Family,
"I compared it to something that Adolf Hitler didn't do, as opposed
to something he did do. And that's a big difference. It was an
attempt to make a joke. You probably have learned this in your
career, I'm still learning that you don't make jokes using
Hitler."
--Clarifying that, rather than just comparing Democrats to Hitler,
he was actually saying that Democrats were doing something that
even Hitler wouldn't have had the audacity to do. And then saying
that it was all just a silly joke anyway. "The Don Imus Show",
MSNBC, June 23, 2005.
Timothy|11.8.06 @ 11:28PM|#
Look, it is funny when people cry on TV because it's usually so obviously contrived. Santorum put his kid up there hoping that would happen, so people would feel bad for him. We laughed instead. The end.
|11.8.06 @ 11:28PM|#
Jesse Walker,
To be fair, no one here suggested making the Santorum's mode of
grieving illegal, or asserted that it would damn them to hell.
|11.8.06 @ 11:30PM|#
Yeah, being an asshole is really a very witty thing, and oh so libertarian! Is this a big deal? No. Is Santorum an asshole? Yeah, no doubt. So what? The kid is not some extension of a politician, and it only the common numbskullery, of which Santorum no doubt is a prime example, that seeks to make every last thing on earth fodder for politics, even the behavior of some kid. A lot of you nitwits are just a mirror image of ol' Ricky.
|11.8.06 @ 11:31PM|#
Aresen: I peed my pants in front of friends when I was
twelve. I survived.
I notice you didn't say "I survived and got laid before
college".
Mommy|11.8.06 @ 11:32PM|#
My son has a Mom and a Mommy.
I love children - especially mine and I hate to see children cry.
However, in light of how this "family man" has attacked my family -
I couldn't help but laugh. There is nothing too low that could be
directed toward a man who has no regard for my son or my family.
Making fun of his display child is nothing compared to what he's
said about my son, my spouse, me and my family. Although the photo
of him eating the ice cream or doing whatever he was doing to the
ice cream, made me laugh even more. I hope the Mrs. uses
protection.
|11.8.06 @ 11:41PM|#
If I understand you correctly, mommy, the fact that Santorum is a prick to your child means that the intelligent response is for you to be a cunt to his.
happy|11.8.06 @ 11:42PM|#
After reflecting on all of these pcitures it occurs to me
that
1. It's not nearly as funny if she isn't holding that doll and if
she isn't wearing the same clothes as the doll.
2. The oldest son looks kinda Jim Talent
|11.8.06 @ 11:45PM|#
I thought this was a Photoshop edit for 10 minutes & I will
forever love H&R even more now.
That doll must be a relative of Chucky, that explains it all.
The Wine Commonsewer|11.8.06 @ 11:46PM|#
bio, I guess it was a freudian slip, eh? I didn't even notice it
and was baffled at first to see your note.
Other than that, I did notice that my comment could have used some
editing.
I blame the wine.
Sandy|11.8.06 @ 11:50PM|#
Wow.
I feel a little sympathy for the kid, because my parents had to
warn me not to cry if Reagan lost in '80 (I was a young dork, what
can I say).
But Julian's post is hilarious.
Seriously, relax, people.
|11.9.06 @ 12:03AM|#
TWC, don't worry, PWI (posting while intoxicated) isn't illegal. not yet, anyway.
|11.9.06 @ 12:05AM|#
Sandy, I also identified strongly with Michael J. Fox's character on Family Ties. he was the ur-young republican
|11.9.06 @ 12:06AM|#
Toshiro =
I love you if only because your name is Toshiro Mifune - greatest
actor of all @#$(*@ time. Also ham tears are funny.
here's a shot of toshiro rubbing his nipples to distrct the
attention of some samurai shooting craps in a cornfield.
http://www.elpais.es/elpaismedia/babelia/media/200502/05/ensayo/20050205elpbabens_4_I_LBW.jpg
brando, eat your heart out
JG
|11.9.06 @ 12:07AM|#
I laughed. Maybe that makes me a bad person (and I do enjoy
schadenfreude a bit too much, admittedly). I think she's praying,
which is even more hilarious.
Yeah, I pretty much deserve to die.
Or maybe all the beating up on Julian is just bitterness over Ms.
Howley.
Anyway the best thing is imagining what horrible scenarios
(certainly involving gays and Muslims) are playing out in that
feeble 8-year old mind.
God have mercy...
|11.9.06 @ 12:07AM|#
I'm a fan of reason and this blog. I am not a fan of
Santorum.
Your post was not funny. The fact that it's "not funniness" is
actually destructive is amply demonstrated by Jon H's
reaction.
As for those would like people to relax? Well, that's a common,
easy response: "Seriously, relax, people."
The more brave--even more libertarian!--response in certain
situation is: Tighten up, people! The go-along or relax response is
oh, so sheep-like.
|11.9.06 @ 12:12AM|#
A lot of you nitwits are just a mirror image of ol'
Ricky.
I beg to differ good sir.
I dont pick of people because of politics. I pick on people because
THEY ARE FUNNY.
we're not making fun of the thing because of any bias. If anything
(which it's not!) whats potentially 'libertarian' about it is that
we're willing to entertain certain pokes at social norms because
they're harmless and amusing. if you're not amused, fine. change
the channel. free world, etc. but stamping one's foot in
indignation will do nothing but add to the amusement of those that
find the whole thing a harmless toss off in the first place. as we
have seen
JG
|11.9.06 @ 12:13AM|#
Or maybe all the beating up on Julian is just bitterness over
Ms. Howley
quite true, milord Duppy. and it didn't help that Ms. Howley was
confessing her prediliction for Agent Provocateur on Hit and Run
the other day. I spent the rest of the day (alright, week)
daydreaming about Kate Moss and Kerry Howley.
Kap|11.9.06 @ 12:19AM|#
If I understand you correctly, mommy, the fact that Santorum is a prick to your child means that the intelligent response is for you to be a cunt to his.
The fact that Santorum outlawed her family I think
entitles her to merely laugh at his. He built a career on trying
his level best to rend other peoples' families; I cannot
feel sympathy for our merely mocking his.
I think it is very clear most of us that we mean the man's children
no harm, it is dad who is the object of our scorn, and rightfully
so.
Santorum will be Hell's janitor, facing an eternity of condoms
flushed by gleeful queens.
|11.9.06 @ 12:38AM|#
Wow, this is post 301. I got here late. What's the record for H
& R comments?
Santorum must have the dorkiest looking family in the history of
the world. This is one of those times when real life is funnier
than satire could ever be.
Seeing fat people suffer always makes me happy especially fat
christian conservatives.
As for you people upset at this thread, first Howard Stern went off
of TV. This is my last oasis away from political corectness. Damn
you to hell for trying to take that away from me!
|11.9.06 @ 1:09AM|#
kap, if Santorum is the sole object of scorn, what is the
logical reason for mentioning the kid at all? You are being
disingenuous. You have decided that because Santorum is a prick, a
third party who can't even defend herself as an adult should be
treated with scorn. It is quite reasonable to thus conclude, in a
very calm, non foot-stomping manner, that you are an asshole. See,
doesn't ratcheting up the contempt with which we view one another,
not because we have done something specifically immoral, but only
due to our non-voluntary associations with others, improve our
social atmosphere?
jg, apparently you have difficulty in differentiating between the
set know as "a lot of you nitwits", and the set know as "you". If
the comment didn't apply to you, fine, but many in this thread have
specifically stated that it is Santorum's political views and
actions which cause the kid to be a legitimate object of ridicule.
It takes no foot-stamping or histrionics to reasonably think that
people who think this way are merely the mirror image of that which
they view with contempt.
Chalupa, it doesn't upset me at all to observe that some people in
this thread are assholes. Hey, maybe it's funny!
Sandy|11.9.06 @ 1:15AM|#
As for those would like people to relax? Well, that's a common, easy response: "Seriously, relax, people."
The more brave--even more libertarian!--response in certain situation is: Tighten up, people! The go-along or relax response is oh, so sheep-like.
That may be the more Libertarian Party response, but somehow I
think inappropriate humor is at least small-l libertarian, if not
universal.
|11.9.06 @ 1:31AM|#
Wow...Santorum and K-Fed get their walking papers within
hours of each other.
Maybe there is a God...
Kap|11.9.06 @ 2:17AM|#
Will,
What did Mommy's kids do to deserve Santorum's scorn and attempt to
break up their family? Aren't they also a victim of their
non-voluntary associations? What has any gay person done
to deserve his attacks?
Which is not to claim that I am not an asshole. We are all (at
least those of us bringing the Fark) being assholes; that is the
fun. You don't always have to be a Serious Grownup Libertarian
Theorist. Nobody entered this thread expecting mature behavior, and
if it offends you why are you still here in the middle of the
night?
Santorum's kids are not in this room, and if they were nobody here
would be making fun of them to their face. We'd all sidle out the
back door, whistling quietly and pointing at Julian.
Don't claim that I am being disingenuous when you are claiming that
Santorum's kids are actually being traumatized by this
thread; no 8 year old reads Reason, except maybe Sandy, and he
frightens us. If this thread was brought to their attention that
would undoubtably be done by their father to extract yet more
mileage from his family.
If Santorum himself showed up my response to him would be, "See,
this is what it feels like when an asshole attacks your family."
That asshole would be me. I'm not ashamed to play that role here,
and I doubt I'd be the only one. The best way to deal with a
gay-hater is to present him with a choice of assholes from which to
select. We're only trying to be accommodating.
See, doesn't ratcheting up the contempt with which we view one another...
...by calling people cunts and assholes?
I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know
this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have
our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!
/righteous indignation tastes like ham.
|11.9.06 @ 3:05AM|#
Y'know, to be fair, I'm not convinced the kid is all that fat. I
think a lot of it is just that dress and it's hideous puffy arms
and lack of any belt to keep it from billowing out, combined with
the scrunched-up face. Anyone can and will look fat if they wear
clothes that are designed to remove the appearance of any sort of
shape.
...yep,
checked other pictures, kid is definately not fat.
God|11.9.06 @ 5:02AM|#
Buahahahahahahahahahah.... Its like the reverse of the Adams Family. Shit they scare!
Todd Frye|11.9.06 @ 5:32AM|#
Funny stuff. If the kid's worst childhood memory turns out to be a photograph of herself during her douchebag father's concession speech, as well as a lot of catty sniping on a liberal blog about it, then she should grow up reasonably sane and pleasant (unlike dear old Dad).
|11.9.06 @ 7:38AM|#
I think it's a mistake to call Rick's spawn 'children' in the classic, human being-centric sort of way, really... they're more like Burtonesque constructs he whipped up in the basement whilst puttering. You don't really think he'd actually deposit his Seed near any filthy, nasty scary WOMAN PARTS do you? c'mon...
|11.9.06 @ 7:45AM|#
What is the BFD here? Little girls cry at the drop of a fucking hat. She's not crying because someone killed her family or like--it's becasue her daddy dragged her ass out to participate in his public humiliation. If this is the worst thing that happens to her this week, she is luckier than most children in this world.
edna|11.9.06 @ 8:37AM|#
'd probably cry like that too if I thought I might have to
move back to Pittsburgh or some other god awful, Pennsylvania
place.
not gonna happen. try the virginia suburbs, so daddy can rake in
$4MM a year as a lobbyist trying to pick our pockets.
my 5 yr old cries just like that when i won't buy him the latest
berenstain bears book.
|11.9.06 @ 8:43AM|#
many in this thread have specifically stated that it is
Santorum's political views and actions which cause the kid to be a
legitimate object of ridicule.
not really.
its more simply a coincidence of their digust for santorum
(legitimate and due), and their assumption that its OK to make off
color jokes.
Yes, we wouldnt be ragging on the children of politicians we
actually admire (...any? me personally, none at the moment) - but
this isnt 'political'. its irreverance. it's funny because it can
be. Getting your panties in a twist simply gives people more reason
to hoot over the topic, which is admittedly, in both subject and
form, juvenile.
potential caption for photo? =
"But Jeebus, you Pwomised!!"
JG
m. takhallus|11.9.06 @ 8:46AM|#
You really are a worthless human being. Deriving pleasure from a child's pain? That's not politics, that's a sickness down deep in your vile little soul. Get help.
|11.9.06 @ 9:03AM|#
You know, before this thread gets buried in other posts, somebody at reason should post it up top so we can continue it.
MeanBobMean|11.9.06 @ 9:36AM|#
Well, it is funny and the auhtor notes he is not intentionally
going after the little girl. But people who use their children as
Campaign props get what they are demanding they get.
I think Santorum sincerely loves his kids, but one should be
prudent enough to sequester one's most prized possessions from
one's own stupidity. The kids get plenty of politics without being
sleep deprived and traumatized. See Juniors classic reaction
here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aggressiveplaid/292015361/
|11.9.06 @ 9:56AM|#
If nothing else, can we all agree that the "Yeah, well things are worse in (fill in the blank)" rationalization is kinda lame?
|11.9.06 @ 10:05AM|#
I dunno. Have you ever been to (fill in the blank)?
Terrible there. Kids are forced to (blank) every day!
|11.9.06 @ 10:18AM|#
kap, I'm not offended. I'm merely making the very reasonable observation that people who ridicule a kid becasue they don't like the kid's asshole father (and no, I'm not defending Santorum) are themselves just the mirror image of the same asshole. If they weren't ridiculing the kid the kid because of the kid's father, then some people in this thread wouldn't have gone to such lengths to explain why Santorum was so bad, which I happen to agree with.
|11.9.06 @ 10:27AM|#
Isn't that Jim McGreevy over Rick's right shoulder? Another example of a gay politician costing the Republicans an election.
Lincoln|11.9.06 @ 10:28AM|#
daydreaming about Kate Moss
Making fun little girls in anguish and dead babies is perfectly
acceptable but this infatuation has crossed the line. Exactly what
could you do with Kate Moss that wouldn't break every bone in her
body? Real women have, you know, hips and breasts and maybe even an
ass and are not built like 12 year old girls Biologist!.
|11.9.06 @ 10:32AM|#
Can't say as i'm real happy with this entry. I've never thought
Julian Sanchez added all that much to this blog anyway. Maybe it's
time he moves on to the LA Times like the rest of 'em. I think with
the firepower that Radley just brought aboard, nobody'd even notice
Julian was gone.
I feel bad for the kid.
True story: a few days ago I was pulling into an IHOP parking lot.
The car in front of me had a Senate plate, and I recognized the
driver as our local Senator. She parked next to another truck, and
a boy got out -- her son I assume. He looked about 8. He was crying
his eyes out. No idea why. The Senator walked him over towards the
restaurant, and sat on the curb with him and held him, while he
cried and cried and cried. Eventually the kid was all right, and
they came inside and ate. But I felt terrible for both her and her
son. Then I started thinking about the juvenile attack ads that
have been on TV attacking her lately.
Who knows what kind of shit these kids have to put up with, having
parents running for office?
|11.9.06 @ 10:34AM|#
Yes, little one, I have abandoned your daddy. And no, most of the voices your brother hears aren't coming from me, although I did tell him to sodomize your father at precisely the moment this photo was taken.
|11.9.06 @ 10:43AM|#
I dunno. Have you ever been to (fill in the blank)?
Terrible there. Kids are forced to (blank) every day!
No, but I saw a documentary about (fill in the blank) on MSNBC
once. Does that count?
Kap|11.9.06 @ 10:48AM|#
Will, I was being overly defensive, as I am now convinced I am
going to hell for participating in this thread. No hard
feelings.
See, this is what I love about Rick Santorum: He has made our
family stronger™.
(Wipes tear from eye.)
(With middle finger, like Santorum Jr.)
|11.9.06 @ 10:56AM|#
You'd be crying or giving a scared shitless stare too if your daddy was Rick Santorum and you just found out he was going to be home more otfen.
Another Goddamned Liberal|11.9.06 @ 10:57AM|#
How many tears did Santorum cause with his intolerant views and
actions?
To me, it is the Santorum on the cake that he would parade his
children out on stage as a means of garnering sympathy for his
loser self.
And trust me, a day will come when that little girl will resent her
parents for all of it. Especially the damn doll and the Laura
Ingalls Wilder On Crack dress.
ChrisO|11.9.06 @ 11:39AM|#
I was critical of this, but on reflection, I suppose it *is* rather unlikely that the young Ms. Santorum will ever see this thread. Do you suppose that the Santorums actually use such newfangled inventions as electricity? All truly godfearing families read their KJVs by candlelight, just like Jesus did.
Alex R|11.9.06 @ 11:42AM|#
Ok, there's gloating and then there's justbeing cruel. Good that he is gone, sad that his little girl is crying. As a daddy that makes me hurt a little. Still glad he's gone!
Pez Head|11.9.06 @ 11:52AM|#
That little chum-gulper on the right has the thousand-yard stare
of Onan The Republican. Watch out for that little fucker, he's
going to be trouble when he grows up. I ga-ron-tee. He's already
hatching some plan to "avenge" his deranged father's righteous
ouster, you can see it in his eyes, and you can tell by the way he
was raised. He's filled with hatred and the fire of publicized
shame burns inside him. Daddy got crushed on TV.
Go east, young Santorum, go east. And keep on going till the
bubbles stop coming out... or god help us all.
|11.9.06 @ 12:15PM|#
All of the moral scolds chiming in on this thread have made it
even funnier.
Especially Daniel. I actually had to bite down on my finger to
avoid laughing loud enough to attract the attention of my fellow
cubicle-dwellers.
|11.9.06 @ 12:19PM|#
Does Reason ever close threads?
I hope not - we could milk this one for months.
|11.9.06 @ 12:40PM|#
Me too Mediageek, I am lucky to have an office in the basement, so my laughs are not so noticable. This thread should be bronzed for posterity.
dhex|11.9.06 @ 12:50PM|#
yeah i mean this guy said "hey if dudes get married we're going
to start pronging dogs and btw other straights will get divorced
because TEH GAY is so overpowering etc etc etc etc and that's why
we can't have gay marriage" frankly he's lucky we just don't link
this to somethingawful.com right off the bat.
no one has photoshopped any bukkake on this or fake cocks or hitler
moustaches (though the son on the right is asking for it), so take
a pill that reads "chill" and then follow the instructions in step
one.
dhex|11.9.06 @ 12:52PM|#
"You claim that Santorum is intolerant merely because he has
defended traditional morality."
no, because he's a fucking idiot who suggested that anal sex had
non-local magical properties and the last dude to suggest that with
any widespread popularity was ALEISTER FUCKING CROWLEY.
he's lucky we don't just cover him in oiled rent boys and then
right before his greatest and worst fantasies and desires are
realized we dump a whole kennel of dogs in the area and see if his
theory held any water.
|11.9.06 @ 12:54PM|#
Isn't this the guy that signed off grant money to study little
girls sexual stimuli or some such crap?
Perhaps the little girl is crying because the funding she needed
for her research is not going to be avialable anymore now that
daddy is outta here.
Why can't the people of this country agree to allow people the
freedom to do what they want in their own homes so long as they pay
for it all themselves.
Its simple really.. Keep your morals out of my bedroom and your
hands off my wallet and we will get along just fine. Why is this
concept so hard to understand? I feel most people look at freedom
as just that your free to do what you want so long as in doesn't
infringe on anyone else and your free to be broke if you don't want
to work. To many votes are bought these days and to many
Evangelical meth snorting gay prostitute screwing bigots, between
the two where can any common sense be found? How many times must we
continue to give people more credit than they deserve for lying and
cheating? This is one fucked up world!
|11.9.06 @ 1:10PM|#
No, but I saw a documentary about (fill in the blank) on MSNBC once. Does that count?
That liberal media outlet? No way. That does not count. You have to
see (fill in the blank) with your own eyes before you can judge
them. It's quite pretty actually. The (blank)s are huge - way
bigger than they look on TV. Once you're there, you can understand
for yourself why they (blank). I came away really believing in a
higher (blank).
|11.9.06 @ 1:18PM|#
We should be ashamed? Santorum should be ashamed. I don't simply "disagree" with him. We do not have a mere "difference of opinion." He was not just wrong, he was dangerous. He's taken religion and the Christian creed (things he and I presumably share and affirm publicly at least once a week) and twisted them into something repugnant, hurtful and evil. He was a danger to our body politic and our country will be better off with him out of Washington. Perhaps the Land of Nod has room.
|11.9.06 @ 1:24PM|#
I think that Julian's post and ridiculous explanation to be
tasteless and beneath the standards I expect of reason.
However, the comments are very entertaining.
I don't think the girl will suffer any permanent damage from this
little episode. In a couple years all this will be forgotten.
I will not bash an eight year old girl for crying after her dad
loses an election, but if the rest of you want to do it in an
amusing manner I will certainly enjoy it.
Carry on.
|11.9.06 @ 1:31PM|#
"David said: November 8, 2006, 3:44pm | #
Strange that an Evangelical Christian has a son at Hogwarts."
The Santorums are staunch Roman Catholics, who are one step above
the Devil according to Evangelicals.
|11.9.06 @ 1:38PM|#
I think that Julian's post and ridiculous explanation to be
tasteless and beneath the standards I expect of reason.
...
I will not bash an eight year old girl for crying after her dad
loses an election, but if the rest of you want to do it in an
amusing manner I will certainly enjoy it.
Flyover, you're being a sissy.
|11.9.06 @ 1:39PM|#
You have to see (fill in the blank) with your own eyes
before you can judge them. It's quite pretty actually. The (blank)s
are huge - way bigger than they look on TV.
That's what people like you always say when you go to (blank). We
all know you really went to (blank) so you could (blankety-blank)
with the (blank). You should be ashamed of yourself.
dhex|11.9.06 @ 2:10PM|#
"Flyover, you're being a sissy."
that's flyover country in a nutshell. let the coasts and those
urban wealth accumulation areas do all the work. who do you think
creates your reality? homosexuals and pagans. and pagan
homosexuals. and interior designers who devote their lives to
yog-shoggoth.
long story short, we are your gods. the sooner you accept that the
better off things will be.
|11.9.06 @ 2:28PM|#
I think Frowny is the best. She is trying SO hard to look sad...
but in reality she can't wait to go home and tell her diary about
all the fun she and her friends had at the meth-fueled lipstick
party, while Daddy and Mommy were out campaigning.
Either that, or she'll die a fat virgin, and she really IS sad. Not
sure which.
|11.9.06 @ 2:58PM|#
You really are a worthless human being. Deriving pleasure
from a child's pain? That's not politics, that's a sickness down
deep in your vile little soul. Get help
Thats so sweet and moral. Will you be my daddy now?
I think we now understand that you have a sincere, intense contempt
for people who laugh at A FUNNY PHOTO OF A FAT KID CRYING.
I admire your "moral" priorities: slam someone as a "worthless
human being" simply because their sense of humor doesnt work for
you. You would have made a great guidance counselor. In the middle
ages.
I kind of find this righteous indignation thing hard to believe.
We've probably slain 10,000 sacred cows on this blog, and THIS is
what people suddenly draw the line at? The pudgy weeping daughter
of RICK SANTORUM??
Seriously, I think this girl should now become the OFFICIAL mascot
of H&R.
Her name, BTW, is Sarah Maria Santorum.
Me personally, i dont derive pleasure from a child's pain. Thats
why I always gag them first.
I think that Julian's post and ridiculous explanation to be
tasteless and beneath the standards I expect of reason.
Uhm. Isnt this the blog that covers things like ...oh, the right to
eat horses, links to newsworthy items like "Naked man arrested
after pulling awl from rectum", pays homage to the Weekly Standard
in 'racist' Step'n'fetchit-speak, and describes Tim Haggard as,
"one of God's tough guys, equally at home cutting down trees and
sharing his enormous penis with his young son."...and where blog
writers occasionally bitch-slap their readers if they get too
snarky?
Maybe you should find a blog where you can share your sense of
outrage http://tellsomeonewhocares@blogspot.com
|11.9.06 @ 3:12PM|#
mk,
(Blank) you! I resent that implication. (Blank) your mother while
you're at it. (Blankety-blank blank BLANK)!
Bon Bon|11.9.06 @ 3:15PM|#
Senate campaign race: $3,000,000 dollars
Demonic looking doll to match your daughter's catholic school
uniform: $35 dollars
Inadvertently making the case for gay marriage by showcasing what
straight sex can create: Priceless
|11.9.06 @ 3:38PM|#
You would have made a great guidance counselor. In the
middle ages.
I'm sorry GILMORE but, after defending your right to find crying
children funny, your accusing someone else of being a lousy
candidate for a guidance counselor got my eyes rolling.
|11.9.06 @ 3:53PM|#
I'm sorry GILMORE but, after defending your right to find
crying children funny, your accusing someone else of being a lousy
candidate for a guidance counselor got my eyes rolling.
Don't roll your eyes, fruitcake. That little girl needs to learn
how to take it like a MAN. When my man Haggard was contending with
both dirty sanchez and santorum,
he didn't cry; he grabbed some meth and took it like a champ!
|11.9.06 @ 4:09PM|#
Oh,I was thinking regular school guidance counselor, not Jesus
Camp guidance counselor.
It all comes down to context, I guess :)
|11.9.06 @ 4:15PM|#
Context, schmontext. I'll give that girl something to cry
about.
Let me also take this moment to clarify something that has often
been misquoted. I never said "turn the other cheek" or "offer the
other cheek," or any such nonsense. I said "spread your cheeks,"
which means something different altogether.
|11.9.06 @ 5:28PM|#
Who is that standing in the balcony in the upper left corner? It
looks like Michael Meyers from the Halloween movies.
I need a life. I'm doing anything I can to keep this damn thing
alive.
Hey, webmaster! Close this thread for comments already before it
ruins me. I've got a problem.
|11.9.06 @ 5:31PM|#
highnumber, as a libertarian, you are responsible for your own actions. don't ask authority to protect you from the consequences of your own poor choices. :)
|11.9.06 @ 5:44PM|#
I am big enough to admit when I need help. I don't want the gov't to step in. I just want my friend the webmaster to help me out.
|11.9.06 @ 8:26PM|#
I'm sorry GILMORE but, after defending your right to find
crying children funny, your accusing someone else of being a lousy
candidate for a guidance counselor got my eyes rolling.
I know. You must have to do that a lot.
someone who knows that having a laugh isnt the same as a moral
failing, dont toss out statements declaring people 'worthless human
beings' over petty issues, have a habit of turning meaninless
issues into opportunities to tout their own rectitude etc..... yes,
that person would make a better guidence counselor.
and to be clear, its not that 'crying children are funny'
THIS crying child is funny.
Also, i hear Laughter is Gods Sunshine
http://www.stickergiant.com/page/sg/PROD/j/t30535
JG
|11.9.06 @ 8:47PM|#
One last thought
The more brave--even more libertarian!--response in certain
situation is: Tighten up, people! The go-along or relax response is
oh, so sheep-like.
(i was rereading some posts to find previously unseen
greatest-hits)
Tighten up?
I am really unsure what that means.
all i can think of is either squeezing my buttcheecks, or Archie
Bell and the Drells
http://www.soul-patrol.com/philly/archie.html
neither of which are uniquely libertarian as far as I know.
Maybe 'big L' libertarian?
JG
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