Tim Cavanaugh | October 20, 2005
Philip Pullman, whose book I can't finish, has been turning thumbs down on Narnia author C.S. Lewis for some time. With the Disney movie of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe scheduled to beat the adaptations of Pullman's His Dark Materials books into theaters, Pullman is turning up the heat, calling the Narnia series "a peevish blend of racist, misogynistic and reactionary prejudice" notable for their "absence of Christian virtue." (This last bit from the anti-religious author is clearly meant to be ironic.) Writes Hit & Run reader Paul Wilbert, who hips us to the news:
I haven't read Narnia since I was a kid, so don't remember enough about it to comment on Pullman's views one way or the other...
I must say that "reactionary" is one of my favorite words. Like the abuse of "liberal" by the American right, you can tell a lot about somebody by those words he choses to describe someone with whom he disagrees.
I don't know if reactionary is the right term, but ostentatiously traditional seems like an apt description. A good question is why so many luminaries of the Anglo-Catholic revival were pretty straightforward bigots—by which I mean more than just that they tweak politically correct sensibilities. Lewis saw the battle for Heaven as a battle with the dark-skinned east. G.K. Chesterton believed Jews were running the world. The works of J.R.R. Tolkien are where I learned the worst thing you can call a guy is "swarthy." (Tolkien may have been somewhat more sympathetic toward Jews, especially short Jews.) In Evelyn Waugh's world, there's nothing more hilarious than a cannibalistic African chieftain wearing a tophat and trying to pass himself off as a gentleman.
There's no natural connection between these guys' Christian traditionalism and their distaste for people of other races. Nor is any of this a knock against their writing. I'd like to see some acknowledgment that racism is a big part of what makes some writers good. T.S. Eliot is an interesting poet because of his anti-Semitism, not in spite of it. Chesterton's novel The Flying Inn takes swipes at the absurdities of Islam and thus creates a weirdly prescient vision of a multicultural UK where progressives and reactionaries unite to form a pleasure-hating superstate. Instead of hiccuping apologies, actors playing Shylock and Fagin could get more mileage from engaging the full hatred their creators wanted to express. (I understand Ben Kingsley does something like this in the new Roman Polanski joint, which I haven't seen.) Giving free play to racism allows writers to engage their own horrors in ways that would never pass in the classroom.
Easy for you to say, Cavanaugh! you say. You're not on the receiving end of that bigotry. True, with some exceptions: If it weren't for Eliot I wouldn't understand that my "apeneck" is really the result of my lousy genes. (Unlike, say, the superior genetic makeup of a sexless anglophile pansy obsessed with masking his roots in the Show Me State.) "Sweeney Among the Nightingales" just would not be an interesting poem if it weren't infused with Eliot's pity and horror of a stupid Irish slob.
I don't expect studies of the aesthetic value of bigotry will take off anytime soon, but consider the sort of mealymouthed talk you get when you don't engage this argument: In one of the comments on the BBC's story on Philip Pullman, one reader takes the author to task for "falling into the trap that so often catches the unaware. That of judging past authors using the values of today." This is ridiculous. The Narnia books were written in the 1950s, when the American Civil Rights movement was in full swing and the tide of anti-colonialism was sweeping the earth. What timeline are we using, where a person living in the fifties would not be aware of racism and imperialism as topics worth having an opinion on? (On the issue of imperialism, by the way, G.K. Chesterton, the godfather of twentieth-century Anglo Catholicism, was on the side of the angels.)
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I like multiple choice a lot more than these weird essay tests Professor Cavanaugh gives...
I have to give some credit to Lewis for turning me from a good Catholic boy into a raving atheist - Aslan was just so damn smarmy. I couldn't stand that bloody cat...
I was a huge Tolkien fan in HS, and I always noted his 'racism'
due to the 'swarthy' comments and that anything black was usually
evil. Maybe he was a Mormon? (kidding) I never thought about the
Jewish thing and dwarves, though, although I totally see it.
I mean, c'mon, Tolkien was born in South Africa and was an educated
English white man. Not to make an excuse for him, but I sure
culturally, it made it fairly easy.
Lewis? I don't know much about him, but weren't he and Tolkien good
friends, or at least correspond with each other frequently?
I hope the movies are good, because even though I don't see many of
them, I enjoy a good movie.
Imperialism? I confess I'm unaware of any such in the Narnia
books. Both Narnia and Archenland were presented as small countries
and so far as I could see never actually invaded anyone in the
stories.
And why would Lewis be all that aware of the American
civil rights movement? I mean, I know they had the telly over there
and all, but still...
I do have to say that the racism in the Narnia books is quite blatant. I read them when I was eight and I was actually offended. If an eight year-old realizes that a book is racist without anyone mentioning it or prompting him, you have to agree it's pretty obvious.
I listened to Pullman's books on tape (actually, on MP3). Pretty
good, very well performed.
Read the Narnia books as a kid. Insensitive bastard that I was even
then, I don't recall any racism. Mostly, I wanted my own talking
lion.
In Evelyn Waugh's world, there's nothing more hilarious than
a cannibalistic African chieftain wearing a tophat and trying to
pass himself off as a gentleman.
in waugh's defense, that needn't be a racist commentary so much as
one on the absurdities of westernization/globalization.
Yeah, I read the books as a kid, and I don't remember any racism, but then I wouldn't have known it if I had seen it.
"the superior genetic makeup of a sexless anglophile pansy
obsessed with masking his roots in the Show Me State"
Uh...what?
truthfully, i wonder about the entire argument you're forwarding
re: bigotry, mr cavanaugh. how is someone like waugh supposed to
comment on the incivility of some parts of the world without
obviously talking about their peoples? is that racist -- i don't
see that these authors make the claim that such people are
*incapable* of civilization so much as that they are not now
civilized.
so too with your link to the fifth book of lewis' narnia -- i don't
think anyone disputes that the people in the mideast are not only
capable of civility but that their forefathers taught civility to
ours (or rather, mine). but neither can he comment on the
degeneracy of what was once the most enlightened civilization on
the planet -- and, in so doing, perhaps foreshadow the fate of our
own civility -- without commenting on the barbarism (for that is
what it is) which now plagues the dissolution of what was once a
glorious islamic civilization.
there is a powerful leitmotif in the west, a drive toward
universalization, the blotting out of our differences in favor of a
sort of stylized industrial congruity of people. but we are
different, even if our capacities for fulfillment under god as
human souls are identical -- and that isn't something we need
shrink from, is it, for fear of being called a bigot?
When I was 8, I had no concept of race. It didn't occur to me
until I started hearing racial slurs, when I was around 11.
As far as dwarves, I always assumed they were Scottish... shows
what I know. Barbarians, I assumed to be English. I never quite got
the elves...
I don't know much about Lewis apart from his work. ...if the
only evidence of his racism is that contained in "The Calormenes
Hate Our Freedom" thread, I remain unimpressed by the argument. I'm
not saying he wasn't racist--I'll remain persuadable pending
further evidence. ...but the clock's ticking.
I'd like to see some acknowledgment that racism is a big part
of what makes some writers good.
I'm almost speechless. Am I supposed to say, "Imagine "Ulysses"
without the Wandering Jew!"?
there is a powerful leitmotif in the west
Would that be a leitmotif, or just a regular old motif?
gaius marius,
Its hard to figure out who you are without being able to compare
yourself to some "other."
This is how I defined that term in graduate school (with the help
of some "friends"):
Marginalized constituencies created by certain �instruments of
power� (e.g., writing, science, physical coercion, etc.). The most
prominent of these instruments is that of ��knowledge,� insofar as
the subjects of power are first indentified as such,� whatever the
�subject� or �other� is, and consequently made available for
(re)forming. (Bart Moore-Gilbert, Post-Colonial Theory: Contexts,
Practices, Politics, p. 36). In particular, Foucault develops a
powerful argument linking all forms of what he calls �the will to
knowledge� and all modes of cultural depiction of �the Other,� to
the exercise of power. (The History of Sexuality, p. 10).
Well, given the silly complaints from Florida that encouraging
kids to read the Chronicles of Narnia is the state being involved
in promoting religion, and given that I couldn't stand the "Did I
make the part where I hate religion too subtle?" His Dark
Materials series, I tend to view attacks by Pullman on Narnia
as being a little self-motivated. His entire series is about people
overthrowing religion, and God himself, and so the thought of a 7
book analogy of Christianity probably makes him pee himself in
fear.
I have a clarification question on the "judging authors by the
morals of today" thing: Are we judging the author or his works? I
don't know enough about Lewis' personal life, but many of the
foreign characters in his books are bad people--like slavers and
tyrants. Was Lewis supposed to make them sympathetic?
I really tire of the "this bad guy characters happens to be a
minority, so the author is racist" concept. It's self-fulfilling
and brooks no discussion. Since the accuser "knows" s/he is right,
you can't convince them otherwise.
I've always thought of myself as un-racist, and yet when I read
the Chronicles of Narnia when I was young they made an impression
on me (positive, I might add) that has never truly left. I was
naive I suppose but I didn't read any bigotry into it at all. It
was all about "spiritual possibility" and all of that stuff. I love
the Pullman series as well-- and I think those books would probably
make a better movie.
The cynical, grown-up Eric's favorite thing C.S. Lewis wrote about?
I love it when he talks about a guy joining the church in order to
combat the urge to masturbate in "Mere Christianity."
it's up to you, mr cavanaugh, but i prefer the postmodern wagernian inference of lietmotif when talking of western decadence. :)
"What don't you understand?"
Who are you refering to? Yourself? Pullman? Gore Vidal?
gaius marius,
I guess, more to the point, the West has for a long time (and often
unwittengly)compared itself to the "East." For example, t first
known example of a "Saracen" presence in medieval literature can be
found in the Song of Roland. Dozens of other medieval romances,
typically termed the chansons de geste, also illustrated
and described the "Saracens" and their culture. In these works, the
"Saracens" are generally drawn as a relief background that could be
used to as a comparative device to weigh and consider the virtues
of Christian knights and their ladies.
For further explication of these matters see: Norman Daniel,
Heroes and Saracens: An Interpretation of the Chansons de
Geste
I was referring to T.S. Eliot, as the context, and any familiarity with 101-level English lit, made clear. Are all Torontonians as smart as you?
gaius marius,
Of course this discourse was initiated long before the heyday of
the chansons de geste; indeed it came about after the
initial rise of Islam, when Muslims and Europeans (e.g.,
Byzantines, Goths, Italians, etc.) first came into contact. It was
rich in context and meaning to medieval Europeans, who viewed the
"Saracens" as their primary cultural and military adversaries. This
also meant that the ideological and physical frontiers of these two
faiths became blurred.
Racist my ass. Yes, the Calormenes are the enemies of Narnia,
and are darker skinned than the Narnians, but one of the heroes of
The Last Battle is Emeth, a Calormene. Lewis clearly doesn't think
there's anything in the melanin levels of their skin or elsewhere
in their genetic makeup that keeps them from being good guys.
Next I suppose I'll hear that Star Trek was racist because of the
Klingons. (No, don't tell me; I'll bet there are two dozen web
sites that claim exactly that.)
I guess, more to the point, the West has for a long time
(and often unwittengly)compared itself to the "East."
truly, gg, beyond obvious materialist concerns (ie, oil), i wonder
just how much of what we in the west have wrought in the east over
the last century is the product of a deeply-rooted insecurity
endemic to a vulgarizing western civilization that is struggling,
as it recedes from cultural maturity into adolescence in
senescence, to define itself despite a flight from its own history,
traditions and institutions.
Oh, yes, and Lewis found Eliot's elitism repugnant, and I gather
from a few lines in That Hideous Strength that he didn't think much
of the kind of anti-Semitism that Eliot displayed, either. So let's
stop employing guilt by association to condemn Lewis.
(Besides which, not only did Lewis not particularly care for Eliot,
he never considered himself an Anglo-Catholic, so the guilt by
association is doubly misplaced.)
Seamus,
Well, racist or not, Cold War politics are fairly heavily at play
in ST:TOS.
Seamus,
And of course the concept of the "loyal native" (keep in mind I've
never read the Narnia series) and the like doesn't take away from
the charge of racism (if that is what Emeth is).
gaius marius,
Heh. You always draw very strange conclusions from my
statements.
gaius marius,
BTW, as a culture I'd say we have pretty good reasons for
questioning the merits of everyone thing we believe, think, etc.
Its not hard to read first had reports from Verdun or Auschwitz or
the Soviet Gulag and not do that.
Hakluyt--before we talk about whether a "loyal native" takes
away the charge of racism, can we talk about what proof we
have that there should even be a charge? What is the
reason, in his writings or otherwise, that he's a racist?
I dislike when these arguments get going from a "Convince me he's
NOT a jerk!" starting point. :)
Daniel Montiel,
Well, as I wrote, I've not read them (and likely never will), so
you are asking the wrong person. I was merely (as I thought I made
clear) making a conjecture.
"Are all Torontonians as smart as you?"
No cause they all are pretty dumb!
It's really amusing to read the comments on the Pullman piece.
It seems that the left tail of the bell curve of fantasy readers is
determined to simply Get Stuff Wrong. First, there was all the
insistence, despite ample documentary evidence, that LOTR was a
WWII allegory. Now, in regards to Narnia, we get:
Not only this, but [Aslan's sacrifice] also draws huge
parallels to the death and resurrection of Jesus.
Really? No kidding?
What religion and Christianity have to do with what is a work
of fantasy and fiction seems to be utterly beyond him. The answer
is simple... nothing.
Yeah, religion and Christianity have nothing at all to do with the
Chronicles of Narnia.
CS Lewis was a strong Christian believer and The Lion is
depicted as a virtuous and spiritual entity but the author does not
plug Christianity per se, evangelical or otherwise.
Oh, brother. To spell it out for the stupid: Aslan = Jesus. Not an
allegory for Jesus, not a symbol for Jesus. Aslan is the form that
the Savior took when he was made flesh to the beings of Narnia.
Yeesh.
Of course, this was good, too:"We believe that God will speak
the gospel of Jesus Christ through this film," Lon Allison,
director of Illinois' Billy Graham Centre, told the
newspaper.
Hahahaha. You're confusing Disney with Mel Gibson, but rotsa ruck
anyway.
(Besides which, not only did Lewis not particularly care for
Eliot, he never considered himself an Anglo-Catholic, so the guilt
by association is doubly misplaced.)
The idea that Lewis was not an Anglo-Catholic is like the old saw
that one of the Village People was actually straight. He found
Jesus thanks to Tolkien (RCC) and HV Dyson (High-church Anglican),
at Oxford in the twenties, the place and time where the
Anglo-Catholic movement was at its zenith. He believed in
purgatory, confession, and infant baptism, most of the "Inklings"
were either crypto- or public Catholics, and he identified
Anglican. Evangelicals love Lewis, so they ignore all that stuff.
But if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Evangelicals love Lewis
which i barely understand -- but then, a lot of things the
postmodern evangelicals think rots of insufficient
consideration.
You always draw very strange conclusions from my
statements.
i try very hard to think differently from most, gg. :)
Hakluyt,
Sorry, the post was put to your comments, but I didn't mean the
challenge for you. It was more for the thread and to make a point.
Allegations like this quickly become "guilty until proven
innocent," and I wanted to throw that out there.
I think Tim is dead-on: racism can be a big part of what makes a
writer interesting. The example that comes to my mind is a little
less high-falutin' than TS Eliot, though: HP Lovecraft.
He wasn't big on dialogue, and he *may* have overused words like
"gibbous" and "cyclopean", but I love his work anyway. And it's
been very influential. Yet the bulk of Lovecraft's writing is
virulently and unabashedly racist. I don't mean just his treatment
of real-world peoples, although that was bad enough: nauseating
caricatures of animal-like black people; degenerate, barely-human
savages in the backwoods; and hideously mongrelised
immigrants.
Lovecraft also expresses his racism in his whole mythos: the alien
intelligences, other-worldly creatures and strange worlds and
discoveries of his stories are almost always regarded with fear and
revulsion. I'm not suggesting that Great Cthulhu and his kin are
simply stand-ins for Jews or whatnot. Rather, Lovecraft's whole
treatment of the new, unknown or alien emerges from deep within the
psychology of racism and xenophobia.
This is part of why Lovecraft is so much fun for many people: the
assault or corruption of purity or normalcy by monstrous outsiders
arouses strong reactions. It's also why Lovecraft is so
interesting, for his work offers intimate insight into what it's
like to see the world (and other ones!) as a racist sees it; and
maybe into how xenophobia can mellow or fade. In "At the Mountains
of Madness", one of Lovecraft's last, longest and best works, we
see considerable sympathy with and respect for the alien Old Ones
(not to be confused with the Great Old Ones, the Elder Ones, or the
Elder Gods: Lovecraftiana is not for the easily-baffled!) who are
accidentally revived by an unwitting Antarctic research team.
Everyone except the narrator still ends up either dead or driven
mad with horror, of course; but Lovecraft had clearly made a
crucial leap of empathy.
Anyway! Go, Tim. CS Lewis and Philip Pullman: both tendentious,
agenda-driven jerks who nonetheless wrote very enjoyable books.
"a sexless anglophile pansy obsessed with masking his roots in
the Show Me State"
Smart Torontonian,
I thought he was talking about Senator Dick Gephardt.
Lovecraft also expresses his racism in his whole mythos: the
alien intelligences, other-worldly creatures and strange worlds and
discoveries of his stories are almost always regarded with fear and
revulsion.
A natural human tendency, Tennant Reed. One does not have to be a
racist to recoil at the sight of Lord Cthulhu. Also remember the
genre that Lovecraft was writing in; how well do you think a story
about fluffy loveable aliens would have gone over with his
audience?
Hate, contempt, pity, and on and on can all be viewed as part of racism but they are also states of mind that give an incredible energy force to a writer's pen...which might explain why so many passionate writers have some association or other with extreme ideologies (commies, nazies etc.)
Why is the fact that,
Lewis saw the battle for Heaven as a battle with the
dark-skinned east.
de facto racism? Dark-skinned hordes from the East must never,
ever, evereverevereverever, be used as an analogy for Evil?
Otherwise, one is racist? Why exactly?
The link provided is equally as non-sequitur-esque.
(http://goatdog.com/blog/archives/000166.html)
The blogger creates a modern analogy to a fictional setting in of
one Lewis' books - and then says Lewis is racist.
Why?
If I understand correctly, should I ever write my version of a
dualistic morality play -- I need to eschew using blacknes/darkness
in regards to whomever I choose to be the antangonists.
Got it.
Tolkien and Lewis don't really belong in the same category as Chesterton, Eliot, or Waugh (or the unmentioned Belloc) in this regard. Tolkien was horrified when a German translator of THE HOBBIT asked him to make a declaration of his pure Aryan blood and refused to do so. Lewis's wife was ethnically Jewish. When Tolkien's son was stationed in South Africa during the war, the elder Tolkien's letters to his son were critical of white South Africans' treatment of blacks. (Tolkien was born in South Africa, but he left when still a child.) Yes, there is a tendency toward swarthy villains in LOTR, but it is said in passing that many of the Hobbits are themselves "nut-brown" in color. And in the Chronicles of Narnia, the Calormenes are supposed to be some sort of imitation Arabs, but there are plenty of white villains also (and it is clear that there are good Calormenes, like the aforementioned Emeth). As far as I know, none of Tolkien's or Lewis's private correspondence contains racist, and certainly not anti-Semitic, language.
Regarding Tolkien, I found this.
I don't perceive Tolkien as a racist. He never advocated the superiority of one ethnic group over another in his real life (unless it were that his admiration of the Jews meant he thought they were incredibly gifted beyond the abilities of his own German and English ancestors). And his stories are constantly showing how the "upper races" are getting their comeuppance. The Numenoreans decide they should be the kings of men, and they end up drowning in the sea because of their arrogance.
The Dunedain of Gondor think their kings should have only "pure blood", and they fight a civil war in which "much of the best blood" is spilled (and lost), and the end result is that their kings mingle their family line. And people go on about the half-Orcs. Oh, what a terrible evil they are. Hey, Tolkien was being rather egalitarian on the issue of racial mingling. If the "good guys" could do it, then why couldn't the "bad guys"?
But the worst accusations are those in which people say Tolkien pitted white-skinned "good" people against dark-skinned "bad" people. Key villains like Saruman the White always seem to escape their list of offensive bad guys ("But he was a Maia!" -- yes, a WHITE-SKINNED Maia). Grima Wormtongue, Lotho Sackville-Baggins, and even Ted Sandyman are all "white-skinned bad guys". They also happen to betray their own people.
Then you have the dark-skinned good guys, but somehow they never get mentioned. While Denethor sits brooding in his tower, going slowly insane and doing everything he can to screw up the war against Sauron, dark-skinned men from Gondor's hinterlands show up to defend his ancient city against the white-skinned Lord of the Nazgul ("But he's a GHOST!" -- yes, well, he started out a Numenorean) and his motley army of multi-ethnic soldiers.
Of course, the army of Morgul is where people really try to drive their blunt points home. "Look at all the black people in Sauron's army!" Black people? In Sauron's army. Tolkien descried one group of black-skinned warriors, and he at first described them as "from out of Far Harad black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues". Last time I checked, black people didn't have white eyes, and all peoples' tongues are pink. But the rationalizations rise up quickly:
1) "But black people are portrayed with white eyes!" (Ever see an old western where the dark-skinned Indians refer to the white-skinned cavalry as "white eyes"?) Hey, let's not cloud the issue with facts. Everyone's eyes are part white. But Tolkien didn't say these guys had partly dark eyes. Nor did he say they had kinky hair, or describe any other features of black African peoples. He does, later on, call these guys "troll-men". Now, why would he suggest a connection to trolls, creatures of fantasy which are huge, massive, and extremely powerful? I've been told that black Africans are portrayed that way. I'm sorry, but I've never seen them portrayed that way (in fact, no one has ever been able to cite a reference for me, but I suppose given the immense amount of literature our society produces, there is something out there -- but did Tolkien ever see it?)
2) "But these guys come from the south!" Yes, they come from the south. And people who live in warm regions tend to be dark-skinned. Funny, that. Should Tolkien have portrayed all the southern peoples of Middle-earth as albinos or something?
Well, there are certainly other Men who serve Sauron, whose skin is less dark than the "troll-men". Sam sees one up close, and as he looks upon the dead Southron warrior he wonders if the man really is evil, or if he wasn't perhaps led or sent to war against his will. Well, the passage where Sam questions the motivations of a dead Southron doesn't really convince many people that their deductions could possibly be in error. They point to the yellow-skinned Easterlings as further proof of Tolkien's clash of the ethnic stereotypes.
Only there are no yellow-skinned Easterlings in Tolkien. There are some sallow-skinned half-orcs, but that's as far as you get with respect to Asian-like features (in fact, Tolkien once described Orcs as a debased form of Mongoloid in appearance, but he wasn't implying that Asians were Orcs).
"But they must have been yellow-skinned -- they came from the east!"
Well, there's logic for you. Anyone who comes from the east must look like an Asian. I guess that means all Europeans look like Asians, because they surely live to the east of me! Tolkien did describe one group of Easterlings. "Not tall, but broad and grim," these men are said to be. "Bearded like dwarves, wielding great axes. Out of some savage land in the wide East they come, we deem." These men (part of the army which takes Cair Andros and blocks the road against the Rohirrim) have sometimes been called half-dwarves, though Tolkien never uses the term of them. The perception is not of an Asiatic people, but of another fantasy race, similar to the half-trolls who appear later on in "The Battle of the Pelennor Fields".
Where are all the Asians? Tolkien doesn't seem to dwell on skin color much, or eye shapes, or hair textures, or any of the other usual stereotypes about ethnic groups. Some of the Southrons appear to be like Arabic peoples (mounted on horseback, dressed in scarlet, sort of like an old "desert Arab" movie from the 1940s and 1950s) and some appear to be like Indians (from India -- mounted on Oliphaunts, etc.) And many people have wondered if the Variags of Khand were a renegade group of Northmen (the term "Variag" was used of Vikings who served in the Byzantine armies).
Well, Indians are Asians, but they're not Mongols, or Turks, or Huns, or any of those other Asian stereotypes we see come charging out of the steppes in the movies and history books (not that the movies have really been faithful to history, mind you). And if people are associating the Variags of Khand with Vikings, you have to pretty much say these are perceived as white guys serving the Enemy.
First, there was all the insistence, despite ample
documentary evidence, that LOTR was a WWII allegory.
The only insistance that I ever heard was that it was a WWI
allegory. And, although it probably wasn't entirely, there's plenty
of evidence that suggests that Tolkien used his experiences as a
soldier in the great war and his opinions about it to inform his
writing. The Dead Marshes sound like WWI trenches to me, and that's
hardly where it stops.
Jim N-And don't forget about the mother of all "white" villans in
LotR; the Elves who forged the first three rings and started the
whole mess in the first place. Digging life in Middle Earth, they
decided to use the rings as a sort of social planning to extend
their stay. But, Sauron thought it was such a good idea that he
made the rings that brought about the wars. It was Elfish arrogance
and irresponsibility that caused all the problems, just as it was
European arrogance and irresponsibility that brought about the
world wars.
The Dead Marshes sound like WWI trenches to me, and that's
hardly where it stops.
I saw a documentary on Tolkien once. It suggested that he lifted
parts of the Dead Marshes bit straight from his WWI journals.
...As I recall, the Dead Marshes were what was left on the
battlefield after the original great battle from oh so long ago.
When we cross the Dead Marshes, it's in the midst of the second
conflict just before the second great battle.
It's easy to read parallels into Tolkien's work, but they're hard
to defend. Tolkien wrote things from his own experience into the
work, but I don't think Sauron was Hitler or that Frodo was Jesus
or that Gandalf was anyone really. ...Gandalf gives the only
seemingly Christian line in the book, but I don't know where he
fits in a Christian context otherwise.
...I suspect the King of Rohan is like Chamberlain and that the
Battle of Helm s Deep is like the Battle of Britain, but, like I
said, that's tough to defend, I think. It's not clear to me that he
meant any thing in Middle Earth to represent any thing in the real
world.
Except the idea that those who want to have power over us are evil
and that those who don't are good... ...That seems to work well in
both Middle Earth and the real world.
(Let's see if I'm allowed to post this time.)
I loathed His Dark Materials. It made me very angry. Not
because it is anti-Catholic, anti-religion, anti-God, but because
it's pompous and self-consciously "significant".
And I especially loathed it because 12-year-old Lyra speaks and
thinks like a mildly retarded 50-year-old schoolmaster with a huge
chip on his shoulder.
Also remember the genre that Lovecraft was writing in; how
well do you think a story about fluffy loveable aliens would have
gone over with his audience?
Poul Anderson and H. Beam Piper seem to have done pretty well with
them. :)
I just want to comment on the brief Dickens mention nobody else picked up on. While Jews do frequently appear as bad guys in Dickens' work, I'm not sure it's correct to say it was hatred that he was trying to express. There are plenty of Christian bad guys too. I have also heard that he claimed never to have thought about this too deeply until someone pointed out to him that all the Jews in his books were evil, after which he wrote a good Jewish character into his next book. Don't have a source for that, though.
"one reader takes the author to task for "falling into the trap
that so often catches the unaware. That of judging past authors
using the values of today." This is ridiculous. The Narnia books
were written in the 1950s, when the American Civil Rights movement
was in full swing and the tide of anti-colonialism was sweeping the
earth. What timeline are we using, where a person living in the
fifties would not be aware of racism and imperialism as topics
worth having an opinion on?"
I'll try to counter-argue. While America was combatting it's racist
ways, England was steadfastly ignorant of racism. In the 1950's
Agatha Christie's book was released in America with the title "Ten
Little Indians" but in England they unashamedly sold it under the
original title, "Ten Little Niggers." (Although today, that could
be a Kanye West title too). In that climate, Lewis could be
prejudiced towards his dark-skinned brothers and not be aware of
any contradictions with the Christian Brotherhood of Man.
Furthermore, in "Mere Christianity" (Original title had the n-word)
Lewis explained that just because a Christian is a bastard doesn't
make him a hypocrite. Just imagine how much worse a bastard that
Christian would be if weren't trying to get right with Christ.
plenty of evidence that suggests that Tolkien used his
experiences as a soldier in the great war and his opinions about it
to inform his writing.
i think tolkien's masterwork is a mythologism of the great war from
start to finish. relating particular episides in the book to actual
battles, places, persons and whatnot is entertaining -- but
probably not as revealing as saying that the entire work is a
manifestation of the british outlook on the battle to save western
civilization from collapse. (and this is less applying my views to
tolkien than acknowledging my philosophical and cultural debt to
tolkien.)
in this way his epic can be seen, perhaps, to be of a kind with
(though certainly far inferior to and less sophisticated than)
vergil's aeneid -- which can be read as a broad allegory of the
spiritual conflict within rome's soul (humanitas) as the price of
its rise to the full flower of civic virtue (civitas) in augustan
empire.
We are sufficiently, perhaps unavoidably, products of our own
milieu so that the traditional tropes of darkness and light lead us
now immediately to see or suspect hidden racial implications in
earlier literature. Ho hum.
That is not to say that Lewis, Tolkien, Waugh, etc. were not
paradigms of an early 20th century, Oxbridge educated middle-class
culture to which Eliot aspired and tried to assimilate. Of course
they were. Their background attitudes were at least subconsciously
sympathetic to the prevailing English worldview that "the wogs
begin at Calais."
So what? Tolkien was primarily a medievalist and it is
that worldview that shapes the Ring trilogy. Waugh was an
equal-opportunity misanthrope and Eliot's anti-Semitism is probably
as much a product of his Harvard years as his later (ironically
colonial) obsession with out-Englishing the English.
But Lewis as an author was first and foremost an unapologetic
Christian apologist. If anything, the Narnia books veritably drip
with Christian allegory to the point where, even as a Christian, I
couldn't bring myself to read the damned things for pleasure
because he was so heavy-handed in his symbolism.
So why is she the White Witch (cursing Narnia with perpetual snowy
winter)? For the same reason Dante's ninth circle of hell was a
lake of ice.
I thought he was talking about Senator Dick
Gephardt.
Not to nitpick, but Gephardt was never a senator. Of course, that
doesn't mean that the Show-Me-State doesn't have a
sexless anglophile pansy for a senator.
Count me among the 8-year-olds who didn't really get any racism
out of Narnia.
As for Tolkien, the WWI motif is true. In addition, I really think
that the different races in the trilogy are symbolic of different
groups in England, sort of metaphors for the different cultures and
personalities that make up the U.K. Dwarves are the tough highland
Scots and Welsh miners, elves are the Druids, hobbits are the rural
folk, and the good and bad men represent, well, good and bad
men!
I've been told that Tolkien wrote the whole thing as a vehicle for
the Elven language, anyway. He was a linguist, after all :-)
Evangelicals love Lewis
which i barely understand -- but then, a lot of things the
postmodern evangelicals think rots of insufficient
consideration.
After the initial spiritual high of being born-again you start
looking around for a better articulation of Christian philosophy
than self-help books paraphrasing Bible verses back at you (thus
the appeal of Lewis the philosopher) and literature better than the
Left Behind books and tales of the brave settlers of Ye
Old Christian American Republic (thus the appeal of Lewis'
fiction).
By weird coincidence, this morning I was going through some old
posters/artwork as part of my campaign to cleanse the Hugginkiss
Subcellars, and I found the map of Narnia and surrounding regions
which hung on my wall as a kid.
I think Cavanaugh and Pullman are unconsciously admitting that the
Narnia series are "literature" in that they're looking into its
waters and seeing it reflect what they want it to. The racism thing
is a stretch; after all, what is Narnia (like most fantasy,
D&D-type worlds) but an exaggerated, idealized medieval
England, minus the serfdom, disease, etc? It's romanticized
chivalry -- Mallory rehashed. So, while writing A Horse and His
Boy, author Lewis is casting about for an anti-Narnia (I'd say
a Dark Narnia, but that brings up the same unfortunate
connotations), and so looking for yet another historical parallel,
he happens upon that other version of chivalry which butted heads
with Europe during the Middle Ages: Islam.
Of course, what Pullman, et al, forget is that there were other
Lewisian lands full of bad guys that weren't filled with
pseudo-Arabs, like Harfang, which, courtesy of my map, I can tell
you is the Narnian Great White North full of bad-tempered giants.
These, as I recall, are of the Caucasian variety -- and worse! --
they eat talking animals and are suggested as liking human flesh as
well (just like our own northern neighbors). So to Mr. Cavanaugh
and others of the Lewis-is-a-racist party, I ask: was Lewis making
a prejudiced statement about acromegaly in The Silver
Chair? Should Richard
Kiel be offended?
i once told a catholic friend that loaning a nonbeliever "mere christianity" is like loaning a theist one of ayn rand's tracts on religion. it's just plain insulting. it's not quite giving them an eyehategod or deicide cd, but it's damn close.
Seen elsewhere:
Philip Pullman has been attacking C. S. Lewis once more, turning a
few speckled grains of truth (a girl with fat legs, a mix of good
and bad among those with dark skin) into the pomp of a major mole
mountain. How many dead writers get this kind of sustained
pummeling, I wonder? The last notable spectacle of this kind is
probably Griswold's repeated kicking of the corpse of Poe. I don't
think Pullman can make his arguments of racism work without
exaggerating some evidence and ignoring other evidence, but Tim
Cavanaugh has thrown his feathered hat into the ring by arguing
that racism is a source of power and interest in many British
writers. I like the first two volumes of His Dark Materials but
always find it curious that the author is so very shrill about
Lewis when his own loathing of religion (not just religion as it is
'organized' into human institutions, but the concepts of a living,
borderless kingdom of believers, God, and a world beyond this one)
wounded the final book of the trilogy.
ETC.
from http://thepalaceat2.blogspot.com/
I'm a former altar boy, now ex-Catholic, boderline agonstic theist. I have no love whatsoever for the RC church. I read the Dark Materials trilogy and found the first book to be rather entertaining and mildly charming, but I was surprised and increasingly annoyed as I read through the 2nd and 3rd books. The cheap shots and smear tactics Pullman used against The Church (Roman Catholic, Anglican, whatever) ruined the series. It was hate masquerading as a kid's book. What a disappointment.
Tim wrote
"I'd like to see some acknowledgment that racism is a big part of
what makes some writers good."
It's great to see someone else make this point. I would hasten to
add that racism and mere cultural attitudes from the past that saw
general, sweeping differences between ethnic groups make culture
interesting.
Think about how many of our cultural icons were developed decades
ago when "PC" wasn't an issue. We still celebrate many of them, no
matter how ridiculous their original connotations were, despite our
modern aversion to hurting people's feelings. Examples: Chief Wahoo
of the Indians. Uncle Ben's rice.
...vergil's aeneid -- which can be read as a broad
allegory of the spiritual conflict within rome's soul (humanitas)
as the price of its rise to the full flower of civic virtue
(civitas) in augustan empire
Remember that Aeneas went through the ivory gate.
That was Virgil's wink. He was letting us know that the glory of
Rome was illusion, and he knew it.
"Unlike, say, the superior genetic makeup of a sexless
anglophile pansy obsessed with masking his roots in the Show Me
State."
That Cavanaugh can really talk some trash.
Gaius Marius,
in waugh's defense, that needn't be a racist commentary so much
as one on the absurdities of
westernization/globalization.
I think if just about anyone else said it, your statement would be
true. Coming from Waugh, it's almost certainly a contemptuous
comment on the absurdity of an African "aping his betters". Waugh
being one of those Englishmen (Kinglsley Amis is another) who
looked down on all who weren't one of them.
Shem:
I was reprising Banky Edwards' (Jason Lee) smartass, piss-taking
line from the movie "Chasing Amy." After enduring a particularly
tiresome political rant by another character, in which the word
"nubian" features prominently, Edwards asks "what's a
nubian."
Gotcha.
Tonio
Actually, I just wanted an excuse to call something the "zircon
in the crown of Canada."
Totally missed the refrence though. Don't I look culturally
illiterate.
Too bad it's not available online like some of the other chaptes
are, but libertarian (anarchist) David D. Friedman includes an
essay on G.K. Chesterton as an appendix in his book The
Machinery of Freedom. It's kind of an odd inclusion, because
it doesn't have much to do with the content of the rest of the book
(how an anarcho-capitalist society could work).
Anyway, as I recall, Friedman concludes that Chesterton was an
anti-Semite, at least in part. He also says there may be some
understandable (if nonrational) reasons for this -- for example,
Chesterton's brother was "persecuted" by some Jewish lawyers for
something or other. However, Friedman says that even if GKC was
anti-Semitic, that's not all he was, and he's still worth
reading.
Friedman also notes that GKC seems to have some compassion for the
Jews as eternal outsiders. Apparently GKC said something like, "The
Jew is an alien no matter in what country he may reside." Friedman
says he has heard European Jews, in particular, saying much the
same thing.
Friedman -- a secular Jew -- also found a lot that was appealing in
GKC's philosophical and religious outlook. Friedman says something
like, as he pondered his own philosophy on the basis of logic, he
found himself driven almost against his will into a stance he calls
"Catholicism without God." The heart of this, as I recall, is
Friedman's growing conviction that some things are just objectively
wrong, regardless of their cultural context. I think he
gave torturing a child as an example. I wish I could remember more
or provide a link, but it is an interesting essay. especially
considering that it's by one of the most hardcore of hardcore
libertarians.
...if I hate Thomas Friedman does it make me a bad
person?
No, but if you hate him because he's Jewish, it might make you a
good writer.
I feel like I'm the only person who loved both the Narnia books
and the Dark Materials books. It's all good.
Anyway, the idea that Lewis and Tolkien were racist is pretty
ridiculous, particularly in Tolkien's case. With Lewis you can make
a convincing case that he was sexist and ethnocentric, but there's
little racism in the Narnia books -- the closest they come to it is
a suggestion that the Calormene consider pale skin to be more
attractive than dark. The negative aspects of the Calormene are all
cultural and religious. Inasmuch as they represnt Arabs, I suppose
you could say Lewis was saying the British culture was superior to
Arab culture. Which is ethnocentric... but also entirely true, as
of the mid-20th century.
As for Tolkien and the whole dark skin = evil myth, there's no real
support for that in the stories. Part of the problem is that people
who aren't really familiar with the stories tend to assume that the
fairest people -- elves -- are the ultimate in Good, and the
dark-skinned Orcs the ultimate in evil. This is not the case. There
is, indeed, nothing especially good about the elves -- they are
proud, selfish, and arrogant, and indeed most of them are in Middle
Earth against the Valar's will. They only look good when you
compare them to Morgoth's servants. The truly good people of Middle
Earth are the Hobbits, and to a lesser extent the Men, none of whom
are particularly fair-skinned.
The example that comes to my mind is a little less
high-falutin' than TS Eliot, though: HP Lovecraft.
I was going to mention Lovecraft, but I figured Eliot was taking it
far enough afield from the Oxford Anglo-Catholic school. The great
thing about HPL is that he took disgust for the flesh to its
ultimate extreme. A friend of mine once wrote a story called "The
Last American Racist," a Borges knockoff about a person so
committed to drawing invidious distinctions among ethnic groups
that he ends up parsing the divisions down to the individual
level-one white anglo-saxon protestant being less white than
another for some reason, and thus banished to Otherness, until
somebody comes along who fits the whiteness criteria even better
than the other guy, and so on until every person on the planet
belongs to a different race than the narrator. Lovecraft is like
that in the other direction: His disgust for the Other proceeds
from disgust for all flesh, including his own. And he's a
fascinating figure because of that.
If there is a tendency in fantasy for fictinal
dark-skinned races to represent evil, there may be an explanation
other than automatically assuming the Dark Ones are stand-ins for
African-descended folks. I am reminded of an old essay by science
fiction author Larry Niven, about the use of words and language in
science fiction. Specifically, I am reminded of this passage:
In the ten years since I started writing, "black" has replaced
"Negro," by popular demand. This may have been a poor idea. Human
children tend to be afraid of the dark, with the result that
"black" is a poetic simile for "evil" in every language I'm
familiar with.
Note that last.
Interesting essay is available online here:
http://www.larryniven.org/stories/words.htm
"Human children tend to be afraid of the dark, with the result
that "black" is a poetic simile for "evil" in every language I'm
familiar with."
What is your flesh tone, Mr. Darky?
Seriously, believe it or not, should we create a myth that black
skin is nature's way of giving a head fake to the dark side?
Or should we start a rumor that black is white? That would,
theoretically, be easy enough.
Research some more, and get back to us.
Stevo DarkLy's skin tone ranges from mushroom pallor to
bulletin-board reddish tan, depending on the season and whether I'm
able to get outside much.
Ruthless, to the extent I can understand what the hell you're
saying, I think you miss the point entirely. Which is: In many
cultures, darkness is used to symbolize evil. So, it's possible
that authors making up creatures might consciously or unconsciously
use dark colors to symbolize frightening ones, without necessarily
thinking in racist terms.
Come to think of it, the color black can also symbolize fearsome
power. There is
research indicating that athletes who wear are perceived as
more aggressive and do tend to play more aggressively. Even in
whitey sports like hockey.
No, Stevo, what I'm wondering is could the "brand image" of dark
skin be changed so it symbolizes good citizenship, apple pie, warm
fuzzies, etc.?
Recall Marlboro cigarettes were originally for women, for
example.
Maybe dark skin could be marketed as Godiva chocolate? The name,
"Brandy," hurts the case I'm proposing. The phrase, "Once you've
tried black, you'll never go back," also hurts my case.
Maybe those with dark skin could be the "pioneers" of global
warming?
Oh, I get it now. Rebranding.
It's not "dark skin," it's "premium melanin-enhanced."
I'm touched to find my silly little essay linked here. There was a deliberate non sequitur between (1) my intentionally anachronistic reading of The Horse and His Boy and (2) my statement that Lewis's racism put me off the book. That is, (1) was not intended as evidence for (2), since I selected the evidence for (1) on the basis of how well it fit my Bush analogy, not on the basis of how well it demonstrated Lewis's racism. But I think I may have tossed in the term "racist" a little too flippantly--I think DB's argument that "ethnocentric" is a better term has merit. I'm not entirely convinced; I'd have to reread it to see how much of it is cultural and religious and how much can be considered race-based.
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