Kerry Howley from the February 2008 issue
Imagine an economic distortion so massive that its effects dwarf those of all existing tariffs, quotas, and subsidies. This distortion is relatively new and inarguably regressive; created by policy makers in wealthy countries such as the United States, Sweden, and Japan, it keeps people in Indonesia, Bangladesh, and Guatemala earning fractions of what they otherwise might for the same work. Some of the poorest people in the world are hit hardest, and the policy further impoverishes the poor while reducing economic opportunities for the rich.
Here in the United States we call this distortion “border control.” Lant Pritchett, a former World Bank economist, has focused his considerable intellectual firepower on diminishing its economic influence, pushing for more cross-border mobility and a freer world market in labor. Pritchett thinks the citizens of wealthy countries can be convinced of the benefits that even the privileged would enjoy in a more open regime. But he is primarily interested in the huge potential benefits for the world’s would-be migrants, people now stuck in economically unviable countries, often in preindustrial economies, fenced in and shut out.
Born in Utah and raised in Idaho, the 48-year-old Pritchett is the son of a Mormon bishop and a graduate of Brigham Young University. He left Boise for Argentina at the age of 19 to serve a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the first of many explorations of entrenched poverty and its causes. After picking up a Ph.D. at MIT, he stamped his passport in 40 more countries, often as a research economist with the World Bank. Today he’s back in Cambridge co-editing the Journal of Development Economics and teaching at Harvard, where he conducts a class on development with his friend and mentor, former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers.
Pritchett is the author of a powerful new book that catalogues the staggering gains to be had from a liberalized immigration regime. Let Their People Come (Center for Global Development) relates, simply and unrelentingly, the voluminous data on global migration. If the 30 affluent countries making up the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) were to allow just a 3 percent rise in the size of their labor forces through loosened immigration restrictions, claims a 2005 World Bank report, the gains to citizens of poor countries would amount to about $300 billion. That’s $230 billion more than the developed world currently allocates to foreign aid for poor countries. And foreign aid is a transfer: The $70 billion that rich countries give leaves those countries $70 billion poorer. According to the World Bank study, wealthy nations that let in 3 percent more workers would gain $51 billion by boosting returns to capital and reducing the cost of production.
The aggregate gains from a regime of completely open borders are so large as to seem unreal, but immigration policy is perhaps best understood at the level of the individual. According to World Bank economists Martin Rama and Raquel Artecona, data from the 1990s show that a Vietnamese laborer who moves to Japan will make nine times what she would at home, adjusted for purchasing power. A Guatemalan will find wages for the same work increase sixfold in the United States; a Kenyan who moves to the U.K., sevenfold. “These wage gaps create pressure for migration,” Pritchett writes, “because they are not primarily explained by differences in the characteristics of people. Wage rates are predominantly characteristics of places.” The biggest single determinant of how well off you will be is not the college you get into, the color of your skin, your gender, or your work ethic; it’s the country listed on your passport.
Pritchett’s thesis is the kind of thing that sends conservatives and liberals alike running to reinforce the barricades, and he isn’t one to shy from controversy. He compares the world’s system of mobility restrictions to South African apartheid, a system that provoked Western opprobrium precisely because a privileged class allocated mobility rights unjustly. Apartheid, like fettered labor markets, was a system that “sharply limited the mobility of people, that kept people in disadvantaged regions with no economic opportunities, that destined millions to lives without hope, and that split workers and their families—merely because of the conditions of their birth.” The analogy to labor markets, Pritchett points out, is almost exact, with the notable exception that labor restrictions uphold much larger inequalities than apartheid ever did.
If there is one group of people he does not have to convince, it is those unfortunate enough to have been born in economically stagnant countries. Pritchett estimates that labor flows would be at least five times greater if people were free to move. What’s keeping so many would-be migrants in place? “Men with guns,” Pritchett says. His message is less a call to arms than a call to lay them down, less a provocation than a vision of a richer, better, freer world.
Senior Editor Kerry Howley interviewed Pritchett (whose book can be downloaded at cgdev.org) in August. Comments may be sent to letters@reason.com.
Reason: You worked for the World Bank while writing this book. The World Bank provides assistance to nation-states, and here you are saying that many, if not most, of the extremely poor would be better off just leaving. Shouldn’t someone focused on development encourage people to stay and make their country economically viable?
Lant Pritchett: There are two elements to that. I’m reasonably convinced that the argument that more foreign aid is a way of preventing more people from coming because it will make people better off isn’t consistent with the empirical work that’s been done. If we succeed in making Africa richer, there is going to be more pressure in outward migration rather than less. A lot of people in Africa are not creating pressure for immigration because they are just too poor. The idea that aid and migration are substitutes is just not consistent with the experience of the world.
The second thing is, we shouldn’t create hostages. We shouldn’t keep people locked in place within some arbitrary post-colonial boundaries just so we can continue with the bold experiment of trying to make nation-states develop. People should be free to move.
Reason: And if we got rid of those boundaries, what would the world look like?
Pritchett: The key to predicting that is price differentials [differences in prices charged for the same product in different places]. If you look at what has happened with enormously successful trade liberalization in the past 40 or 50 years, price differentials have fallen a lot. The only remaining enormously egregious price differential in the world is in the price of labor.
But I think the question of what would happen if world barriers to labor were erased tomorrow isn’t that interesting because it’s not going to happen. And to some extent it’s good that it won’t happen immediately. If the world were thrown open to labor mobility today, I suspect it would cause massive disruption of a kind that nobody really wants.
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This was a great interview. There are some complex issues
glossed over a bit, in that a guest worker program must come with
an enforcement arm that distorts the benefits of the program. I
have the suspicion that more people are being helped by the current
state of illegal immigration than would be the case in a guest
worker plan of any practical size, and I worry that we'd be trading
a more beneficial informal system for a formalized small
program.
Still, the analysis of the moral questions seems dead on to me. If
you've walked around any third world streets, your understanding of
poverty changes quite a bit. I don't know how anyone who supports a
minimum wage in the united states or civil rights legislation could
coherently oppose strict immigration standards. This country is
nowhere near 'full'.
"I don't know how anyone who supports a minimum wage in the
united states or civil rights legislation could coherently oppose
strict immigration standards."
Uh, that didn't make sense, I meant to say, "I don't know how those
people can coherently support strict imigration standards."
At least both of them are quite open about being globalist scum. And, as could be expected, they completely ignore the huge non-financial costs of the scheme, such as giving PoliticalPower inside a country to the countries that send "guests". The obvious example is the PoliticalPower that Mexico has inside the U.S. due to their links to various U.S. nonprofits and even Democratic politicians. They've explicitly said they're going to be using those nonprofits to push their agenda, they're apparently going to finance an AdCampaign, and officials from that government are even encouraging people to vote their way in U.S. elections (in addition to making threats). Sometimes I think it's a shame that treason is so narrowly defined.
They've explicitly said they're going to be using those nonprofits to push their agenda, they're apparently going to finance an AdCampaign
And clearly the way to defeat them is to SpamBlogs with
RidiculousLinks.
"I'm ChrisKelly, and I have such an ego I think the future of
TheRepublic depends on MyBlog."
I sometimes feel that maximizing exposure to wacko's deranged
racist rantings would help my position more than almost anything
else. He could be the guy you tar all the border fence people with.
Maybe he could write pamphlet material for the strongest anti
immigration candidate left in the race.
By all means, anyone who is inclined to seal the borders, Click N
Learn. Let me know how you feel about yourself.
Jason, I don't think LoneWhackoff is as much racist as he is extremely xenophobic. He thinks theres some GlobalConspiracy to undermine AmericanSovreignty. I think he'd be just as outraged in the IllegalImmigrants were Swedish.
I haven't read lonewacko, BUT, just to be clear, it isn't xenophobia, racism, etc. to demand that a nation have the right to control its borders. Even we want every immigrant from the whole world in the United States, that is a decision the U.S. has the right to make, not anyone else.
I haven't read lonewacko, BUT, just to be clear, it isn't xenophobia, racism, etc. to demand that a nation have the right to control its borders.
I like secure borders to keep out people who means us hard or carry
contageous disease. But I don't think borders should keep out
Mexican gardeners. So I lean more to "high walls, wide gates" than
"open borders".
It is a great interview. I love this bit...
Reason: You then create a division between first- and second-class citizens. Isn't that worrisome?
Pritchett: The world now is divided into first-class citizens of the world and fifth-class citizens of the world. The idea that we wouldn't help a peasant trying to eke out a living on a side of a mountain in Nepal by letting him work in the United States, just because we have to, if he comes to the United States, endow him with all the rights of U.S. citizens-I think that moral calculus is backward.
So the first answer is: Milton Friedman is wrong. It's not incompatible with a welfare state; it's incompatible with a welfare state that doesn't differentiate between people within its territory.
just to be clear, it isn't xenophobia, racism, etc. to
demand that a nation have the right to control its borders. Even we
want every immigrant from the whole world in the United States,
that is a decision the U.S. has the right to make, not anyone
else.
Indeed, that is the very definition of sovereignty.
But since that same argument can be used to claim that a nation has
the authority to, say, execute anyone it cares to for any reason
within its borders, it is neither useful nor interesting in
answering the question of whether the nation should.
Oh, and the descendants of the people who were forcibly taken
from Africa are better of than those that remained.
Let's bring back slavery to help the world's poor.
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From the article:
the arbitrary boundaries of a nation-state
I'd say that neither Reason nor Pritchett are passionate believers
in sovereignty... Not criticising, just saying.
Great article - more please.
really interesting interview. kerry, it says you conducted it in august. why is it only being posted now?
Not sure about the title though - what's innovative about Lant's ideas is not that he's pro-free borders (it's an orthodox if impractical idea), but that he thinks the solution is a benign apartheid within rich countries...
I have no problem with secure borders. Allowing a lot more
people to come here with green cards will make our borders one hell
of a lot more secure than a 20 ft. wall.
If people are given a legitimate means of doing something, they
will generally follow it, unless they have some more nefarious
agenda. Make it relatively easy to let people into the country, and
the only ones who will try to sneak in will be those attempting
something illegal. End the WoD, and the only ones doing it will be
the real scum - human traffickers, murderers, actual terrorists,
etc. The important point is that they won't have a huge crowd of
innocents to hide in.
They are not David. The writers at Reason are transnationalists who deny the US the right to do pretty much anything. Now the fact that they live in this nice country and that their lives are about 100 times better here than they would be in most of the world or even in an aggregate of the rest of the world seems lost on them.
I'd say that neither Reason nor Pritchett are passionate
believers in sovereignty... Not criticising, just
saying.
There are two meanings of sovereignty that get mashed together by
opponents of free migration.
The first is the authority of a government to do whatever it wants
within its dominion. The second is, apparently, identification with
a nation-state.
I doubt that either Reason or Pritchett is challenging the first.
In fact Pritchett makes it clear that political palatability is a
prerequisite for immigration reform.
But the second meaning is better termed "nationalism" or
"Americanism" or the like. Calling it "sovereignty" simply admits
sloppy reasoning that makes arguing for freer borders the
equivalent of arguing for the overrule of the state.
Thanks sv. The interview wasn't time sensitive, so it was pushed back a few issues -- and we can't post here until it has appeared in print.
"End the WoD, and the only ones doing it will be the real scum -
human traffickers, murderers, actual terrorists, etc. The important
point is that they won't have a huge crowd of innocents to hide
in."
That is an interesting point, although I think nitwits like Howley
and Pritchitt would probably even deny the US's right to deny entry
even of those people. I agree that if you let more people in
legally, it would be easier to stop the criminals. Of course,
anything short of an end of borders will not stop the problem of
illegals. There are always going to be criminals and the like
tryting to get in the country. I would be a lot more open to more
immigration if in doing so we made it much easier to kick someone
out after they committed a crime. That is a good deal for both the
economy and society in that you would get more law abiding workers
and you hopefully kick the criminals out of the country. The
problem is that I have no faith in the government's ability to ever
do the deportation part. We will just get more people and more
criminals.
MikeP is, as usual, wrong: The first is the authority of a
government to do whatever it wants within its dominion... I doubt
that either Reason or Pritchett is challenging the
first.
I don't think either care too much, just as long as some people are
able to make money on the deal. But, leaving that aside, as soon as
you allow millions of people from another country into your
country, you give the sending country PoliticalPower. That can,
once again, be seen in the case of Mexico which, once again, has
PoliticalPower inside the U.S. Because of that PoliticalPower and
other things, we cannot do everything we should be able to do.
I think nitwits like Howley and Pritchitt would probably
even deny the US's right to deny entry even of those
people.
Did you read the article, John? Lant was fairly warm to Singapore's
policy of kicking immigrants out just because they were pregnant.
The whole point of his argument is that one should import people,
on a temporary basis, to work.
The writers at Reason are transnationalists who deny the US the
right to do pretty much anything.
Are you a free trader? That's a 'transnationalist' way of thinking
too.
The problem is that I have no faith in the government's ability to ever do the deportation part. We will just get more people and more criminals.
John, I understand your distrust of the government's competence,
but I think it would be a lot easier (politically and logistically)
for them to deport 1,000 criminals than 100,000 illegals.
Ron Paul hates illegal immigrants he is the only politician running who is willing to round them all up and end thier "birthright" citizenship. Vote for Ron Paul!!!!
While I agree in principle with the idea of free migration, the presence of a large population of people from countries with non-capitalist/anti-capitalist backgrounds threatens the free-market economy. Someone's going to get pissed at me now.
A liberal republic (in the old sense of the "L" word) cannot
function with just any population. We hear over and over on this
site about how naive the Bushites were to think they could just set
up a democracy in Iraq or Afghanistan and it would magically work,
despite the complete lack of liberal traditions in the populations
of those countries.
Yet, now we hear that we're supposed to accept massive migrations
of people from illiberal countries, at a much greater rate than we
can possibly assimilate, and this won't be a threat to our republic
(and indeed, to oppose such migrations is tantamount to
"apartheid").
"You have to confront the injustice of the world"
No I don't. In fact, efforts to confront the injustices of the
world should be resisited. Spare us the moralizing of Libertarian
Jellybys.
"The future is incredibly difficult to predict, and certain
attitudinal things shift overnight"
Exactly, the attitude of our 'immigrant' laborers could shift
overnight.
Crimethink --
A couple of points.
First, a liberal republic is based on institutions. Elections,
property rights, civil liberties. Iraq and Afghanistan lack those
institutions; America has them. Adding immigrants who have no
experience with democracy won't make our institutions go away. Not
to mention that some people flee those illiberal countries for the
very purpose of moving to a democracy where they won't be
persecuted.
Second, immigrants do assimilate. Within three generations, almost
all are fluent English speakers. First-generation immigrants have
crime rates below average for their income level. Unlike in Europe,
where immigrants are often segregated to rotten banlieues, American
immigrants move from poorer to richer suburbs in the same pattern
they have through the 20th century.
I'd love to hear you explain what kind of "threat" you have in mind
from immigrants.
Yet, now we hear that we're supposed to accept massive
migrations of people from illiberal countries, at a much greater
rate than we can possibly assimilate, and this won't be a threat to
our republic (and indeed, to oppose such migrations is tantamount
to "apartheid").
And you know that the natural rate of migration from illiberal
countries is far greater than what the US can possibly assimilate
because...?
Take a very simple institution, like traffic laws: On my experience, Venezuelan tourists in the States drive a lot differently than back home. Make of that what you will.
Erm, the whole "they'll bring illiberal culture" argument disappears when you have a guest worker or green card program. If they can't vote, their political views aren't of great consequence.
MikeP - there's obviously a LaRazaConspiracy to give me RheumatoidArthritis. I avoid as much pain as possible by not clicking on links that are CompleteBullshit.
If they can't vote, their political views aren't of great
consequence.
Can the North Africans in the Paris banlieus vote? Their
views seem to be having some consequences, no?
the whole "they'll bring illiberal culture" argument disappears when you have a guest worker or green card program. If they can't vote, their political views aren't of great consequence.
I tend to think so, but I'll allow for the strong possibility
that's not so. That is, their proximity to people who can vote may
be influential in a bad way.
Can the North Africans in the Paris banlieus vote? Their views seem to be having some consequences, no?
Yes, and when unemployment among immigrants gets to 35% or whatever
it is in France, there will be similar problems. I don't think even
Edwards's policies would be so bad for the economy (though it'd be
close.)
Kerry,
Thank you for giving us more options to think about in the
immigration debate.
Keep it up!
Just to remind you all, governments don't have rights...only people do.
Interesting point of view Mr. Castro has regarding the existing brain drain... "Brain drain deals a double blow to weak economies, which not only lose their best human resources and the money spent training them, but then have to pay an estimated $5.6 billion a year to employ expatriates." He goes further to state that "More than 70 percent of software programmers employed by the US Company Microsoft Corporation are from India and Latin America." (http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,1001-castro.shtm) It's time that the effort put by these people, who are contributing to the US economy, be at least acknowledged, if not thanked for.
Vida,
Actually, if they want to keep their investment in their people
safe, they should say that if they work in the country, the money
is a grant. If they work outside, it's a loan. Over the amount of
time you spend working in your home country the amount that would
be a loan if you left decreases. It doesn't make common sense to
spend money training people to work in your country if they have
better opportunities elsewhere.
"Just prior to World War I, every single European country had a
monarch. Twenty years later, the very idea of monarchy was regarded
as ridiculous."
Quick: what was the name of the French monarch in 1913? The Swiss
monarch?
And where did the English, Norwegian, Danish, Swedish, Dutch,
Belgian, Spanish, and many other monarchs disappear to by
1933?
Pritchett is an ahistorical fool, which probably explains why he's
so enthusiastic for unrestricted immigration.
History shows that the ordinary people in any country which brings
in a lot of strangers will suffer, though the elites may be happy
to exploit social turmoil for their own ends ("divide and rule")
and to lord it over all the cheap labor.
Pritchett is surely correct to say that the movement for which he
propagandizes sees world-trade mechanisms as a model. Wouldn't
Jorge W. Busheron just love to get "Fast Track" authority for
immigration as well as trade? (Also, while discussing the point
Pritchett telegraphs that he thinks "guest worker" restrictions are
just a temporary, nose-in-the-tent measure. Once the
more-immigration mechanism is established those kind of
restrictions can be eroded in a few years.)
But Prichett is entirely wrong (and disingenuous, since he must be
aware that he's spouting lies) when he compares people to goods.
Even considered as laborers, people are different-- because whether
you work them 8 hours per day or 12, they still have time left over
to commit crimes and interfere in local politics.
Even immigrant willingness to labor is not the unalloyed blessing
Pritchett claims. He just dismisses the effect of importing foreign
peons to compete down wages for the lower strata of local society.
Pritchett asserts that rich countries would gain by some few
billions if they let in millions of foreign serfs. Ask him how he
computes those benefits... the answer is: he counts the sums
employers save on wages (by employing immigrants for less than
natives) as gains for society (same as you count, say, a lower
price for cement as a gain, because your profits go up, in the
short term at least).
Pritchett doesn't bother to discuss the distribution of those
gains, though: all of them would accrue to people at the top, and
all of the costs to people at the bottom. Natives forced into
unemployment by mass immigration would then subsist by welfare and
crime at a MUCH HIGHER cost (thanks to transaction costs and the
negative-sum character of crime) to society overall than the gains
to employers that
Pritchett counts.
Anyway, Pritchett's own pronouncements provoke an analysis which
blows up his whole thesis: he says there's no difference between
people, only places. But the actual, the incontrovertible fact is:
there's no difference between places, only people! Really. Consider
Mexico, which is close at hand, relatively familiar, and provides
the bulk of unskilled immigrants to the USA at present.
Does Mexico lack for natural resources? Mexico floats on a sea of
petroleum and is famous for the productivity of its mines. Mexico
exports food and has plenty of high-productivity agricultural lands
(they would be many times more productive if farmed in a modern
fashion). Mexico has coastlines on the two greatest oceans with
superb natural harbors. Does Mexico lack for labor? No, Mexico has
a large and growing population with many people of laboring
age.
Why then, is Mexico not rich?
The only salient difference between Mexico and the USA is the
character of the population!
Bringing Mexico's people into the USA is the same thing as bringing
Mexico's problems into the USA.
Who among you would like to move to Mexico? None? Then why do you
want Mexico to move to where you are?
If your personal problem is that you resent having to pay so much
for gardeners and you prefer obsequious brown janitors to those
black ones that somehow make you feel awkward and guilty when you
ask them to refill the soap dispenser... well, Pritchett's "bring
in more peons" plan is for you.
Ask him how he computes those benefits... the answer is: he
counts the sums employers save on wages (by employing immigrants
for less than natives) as gains for society
The sliver you identify is not even close to the total gain from
employing immigrant labor.
Taking the two most common cases:
1) The immigrant worker does a job that would otherwise be done by
a native worker.
In this case, you are correct that the economy is better off is in
paying the immigrant worker less. But you are overlooking the
bigger gain: The economy is also better off in that it can now
employ the native worker at a higher valued job for a
higher wage.
2) The immigrant worker does a job that would otherwise not be
done by anyone.
In this case the economy is wealthier by the productivity of the
job. Granted, if you consider the immigrant an extra-economic
force, his presence is going to consume a good deal of that
benefit. But the producer surplus of his employment is pure
economic benefit, and the consumer surpluses of his consumption
that are retained by the economy are also pure benefit.
(same as you count, say, a lower price for cement as a gain,
because your profits go up, in the short term at least).
The fact that you so glibly describe this very real economic
benefit as a temporary uptick in profits is telling.
The lower price of cement is a gain, now and as long as it
persists. That it will first accrue to profits may be true,
but as the lower costs become understood and competition takes
advantage of them, the economic gains go straight to the consumers
themselves ...now and as long as the lower costs persist.
The only salient difference between Mexico and the USA is
the character of the population!
You misspelled "institutions!".
Bringing Mexico's people into the USA is the same thing as
bringing Mexico's problems into the USA.
Since Mexico's people do not bring in Mexico's institutions, but
rather generally use those institutions that already exist in the
US, Mexico's people do not by and large bring Mexico's problems
into the US.
I completely support snorrebrod's arguments. I'd like to extend
Snorrebrod's with two further arguments against the these of
Pritchett: the first one is economically with an extension in the
political.
First of all there is the economic argument. There are two ways of
equaling two countries, say a rich and a poor one, using the
traditional economic theory of comparative advantages. The first
mechanism is that of capital flow from the rich to the poor country
known as foreign direct investment (FDI) which is sought to be
liberalized using the WTO, IMF and other international
institutions. This works fine and my argument is that we should
stick with this. The only negative effect of capital flow from the
rich country to the poor country is that the capital owners in the
poor country get poorer (cfr. inflation)
Now the second one is what we are talking about here: labour
migration from the poor country to the rich country. effect: rich
country gets more labour and wage prices drop and poor country gets
higher wages as the available labour drops and the demand-supply
system works so eventually you come at an equilibrium. So far the
traditional theory.
Now let's take a look at what the modern theorists say about it.
First of all, labour isn't homogeneous. As someone mentioned before
you get a brain drain and as inventions, technology, education,...
create work, the poor country gets drained with all the people that
actually create work. So that the poor country doesn't reach the
equilibrium with the rich country.
Secondly: why are rich countries so succesfull if capital is so
free of movement there should be more convergence within the world
theoretically spoken out of the background of the traditional
comparative theory. The answers to that lie for example in the
modern growth theory which says that some countries have found a
good combo for industries to flourish and that is very diverse:
from education, administrative (no corruption for example),
politically, meeting the marketfailures (crime, streets,
bridges,....),... Another approach draws from evolutionary
economics, central is the difference between tacit (computer
sciences (silicon valley) or financial tricks (London)) and
codified ("easy" knowledge like textiles etc.) knowledge, tacit
knowledge is way harder to outsource and you need ppl around who
can talk with eachother about the newest evolutions (silicon valley
or London's financial centre) Another approach is the new economic
geography approach: economic activity gets centered around certain
places because of the tacit knowledge, the modern growth theory and
the demand and supply linkage to eachother (a big market needs a
big supply preferably next to it and a big supply needs people to
work in it).
So, in this first and second argument you see that even with free
labour migration you get a concentration of the economy around
certain zones and that the solution for devoloping countries
doesn't lie in labour movement as a possibility for upgrading their
own countries. The economic paradigm used by Pritchett is
outdated.
Now I come to my political argument to disagree with Pritchett. Two
trends involving labour migration tend to disrupt and cause
negative effects. The first argument is the rise of extremeright
and racism with the coming of so many foreigners. I do wonder if
this is really what we are waiting for.
The second is the distributive effect. As cheap labour comes in the
rich country, labour get cheaper, causing inequality within a
country to grow. Certainly in our European system where social
cohesion is very important, this will cause major disruptions in
society and again give strong support for extreme right and racist
feelings within society.
So with free labour migration you get A LOT more inequality within
the country while it is doubtfull if you get more equality
globally
But... And now this is my final these. Hope you are still with me.
Isn't this what it is all about in these so called technocratic and
objective free trade debates about economy? Presenting a debate as
objective while actually talking politics. Mr. Pritchett is a
neoliberal wanting to widen the gaps between rich and poor on
American model. Fine if you say that outright but instead he raps
it up in so called objective talk. Perhaps we should look first at
the preferences of society and to me, living in Europe, it is clear
that that is not what society wants.
Free labour migration gets us A LOT more inequality within the
country migrated to while it is doubtfull if you get more equality
globally.
Quote: "1) The immigrant worker does a job that would otherwise
be done by a native worker. In this case, you are correct that the
economy is better off is in paying the immigrant worker less. But
you are overlooking the bigger gain: The economy is also better off
in that it can now employ the native worker at a higher valued job
for a higher wage."
That is silly. If the economy wanted the native worker in a
higher-valued job, he would already be in the higher-valued job,
because it's higher-valued.
Look, one of the most curious things about the demand for
low-skilled immigrants[1] is that their labor really isn't very
valuable. Immigrants who can only command wages at the bottom of
the scale aren't worth the trouble they cause!
The truth is that low-skilled immigrants don't just compete down
wages for low-end jobs by some percentage, leaving everyone
employed though somewhat less affluent. In practice immigrants
displace many (in the USA, mainly black) workers into long-term
unemployment. This is not something "guest worker" welfare
restrictions can fix, because the unemployed natives are not guest
workers, they are citizens who remain eligible for welfare (and
readily available for criminal activity). When an immigrant arrives
to do a low-skilled job for less than a native, he gets hired and
the native gets fired. The native may or may not find another job,
but since the wages he can command are limited by competition from
immigrants any new job he finds will pay less than his old one did.
When the jobs on offer pay less than welfare plus the subjective
value of leisure time (and gains from crime) the native will end up
a "discouraged worker," one of the long-term unemployed. The
problem is particularly acute when the immigrants don't speak the
national language (English in USA). Employers don't like to staff
any given job category partly with natives and partly with
immigrants-- often the two groups will quarrel, and at best they
won't communicate very well. Since the immigrants are grateful for
wages higher than those in their home countries, and the natives
resent wage-imploding competition from the immigrants, employers
usually just switch to hiring only the more complaisant immigrants,
leaving natives entirely unemployable. (This has happened to
American blacks in California. They've been driven out of whole
industries by Mexicans.)
The USA already has a problem with fault lines in our wage
structure. Productivity gains from technological advances in
capital stock tend to raise wages for higher-skilled workers (who
tend the machines) but, of course, diminish wages for low-skilled
workers (because labor-saving machines reduce demand for unskilled
labor). A gap appears in the wage structure at the level which
divides the technically-savvy workers from the strong-back workers.
Above that line wages may rise with technical advances, below it
they fall. In the USA we have many workers who can only fill
low-skill jobs. We honestly lack the ability to boost those
workers' skills so they can get fancier jobs that pay more. Most of
them lack the IQ which skilled trades require and no one has
discovered any way to boost the IQ of an adult. Even if you believe
that most native low-skilled workers are lazy rather than
innately-limited (NB: I think you are wrong), that doesn't affect
the bottom line, because we have no reliable means to affect
peoples' attitudes. The carrots (income, respect) and sticks (life
in bad neighborhoods) society already uses to motivate people to
improve their skills are pretty strong, yet insufficient to propel
low-skilled natives into higher-skilled jobs. Anyway, we must
recognize that an important segment of our workforce is vulnerable
already; they have no real hope of gaining higher-skilled work, so
if we invite immigrants to drive down their wages that will be the
whole story for them. They will never see any gains from
immigration. (You might suggest we tax the immigrants enough to
compensate the low-skilled natives, but that is essentially
impossible-- a sufficient tax would raise the cost of immigrant
labor above the cost of native labor, so it would be simpler to
just do without the immigrants.)
Admitting desperate low-skilled immigrants to a country which has
already industrialized to the point where demand for low-skilled
native labor is very low (as demonstrated by the comparatively low
wages such workers command) is almost guaranteed to put the bottom
tier of native workers on the unemployment line.
Although employers gain when immigrants drive down wages, in the
USA society loses. Employers of low-skill immigrants privatize
profits and socialize costs. Suppose that with no immigrant labor
available an employer would pay a native $8/hour to do a job. An
immigrant will do the job for $6/hour. The employer will save about
$4000 in the first year ($2/hour times 2000 hours/year), but the
displaced native worker will draw nearly the same amount ($4030 in
California) in unemployment payments during the first six months.
Leaving aside other social spending on the displaced native and his
family (and disregarding social spending, including a share of
police and prison costs, on the immigrant), the unemployment
insurance payments alone will make the whole deal a net negative
for society because unemployment payments are funded by taxes and
involve high transaction costs (bureaucracy). Basically, the
employer's $4000 gain will cost middle-class taxpayers at least
$5000, and probably much more.
Then looking further down the road, what is to become of the
low-skilled native worker's children? Taxes on middle-class workers
may fund social spending to feed and school those children even if
their parents are unemployed, but the chance that they will grow up
into productive adults is greatly diminished. Generally speaking,
children of working parents are much more likely to acquire
desirable social habits than children of the chronically
unemployed. By this mechanism, among others, low-skilled
immigration harms multiple generations of natives, in ways which
don't show up clearly for years. (Every criminal in prison costs
taxpayers more than $34,000/year (California), so if just one out
of eight displaced natives or their children ends up in prison
because of immigrant competition that will cost society more than
the money saved on immigrants' wages, apart from any harm the
criminal will do before he's caught and imprisoned.) Immigrants
give immediate wage savings to employers but inflict long term
social costs for everyone.
[1] The story is different for high-skilled immigrants. Of course
they drive down the wages of natives, but their labor is
potentially more valuable than the social costs they impose. With
very high-skilled immigrants (e.g., scientists) society probably
wins because they produce much more than they cost. But with
moderately high-skilled immigrants (e.g., computer programmers)
things are fuzzy. They produce a domino effect: when the immigrant
computer programmer drives down wages for his native professional
peers, that pushes wages down for everyone of lesser skills until
some file clerk can get more by filing a phony disability claim
than by continuing to work. Will society save more on wages in
higher tiers than that disability check costs? Tough to say. But
one thing is abundantly clear: moderately high-skilled immigrants
are very, very bad news for the people they compete with directly.
Taxes in the USA
fall hardest on people making between about $90K and
$110K/year, so native computer programmers not only give up
wages to immigrants, they also pay the stiffest taxes to finance
social-spending to bail out native workers displaced by immigrants.
At least high-skilled immigrants don't commit much crime
themselves.
It's interesting that Pritchett doesn't particularly want to import
high-skilled immigrants who might actually be worth more than they
cost. He wants to import vast numbers of low-skilled immigrants who
certainly won't pay for themselves.
If the economy wanted the native worker in a higher-valued
job, he would already be in the higher-valued job, because it's
higher-valued.
That's already the other case. This case looks at the native worker
who is willing to pick strawberries at $30,000 per year while an
immigrant worker would do it for $20,000. If you want strawberries
picked with no immigrant labor, you'll be paying $30,000. Meanwhile
a factory job that would pay $30,000, with better opportunities for
advancement, goes unfilled. The rich will have their strawberries.
No one will have the product of that factory. It would be better
for the economy if everyone had their strawberries and
someone had the product of that factory.
Admitting desperate low-skilled immigrants to a country which
has already industrialized to the point where demand for
low-skilled native labor is very low (as demonstrated by the
comparatively low wages such workers command) is almost guaranteed
to put the bottom tier of native workers on the unemployment
line.
The actual result appears to be reduction in wage of 0% to 8% --
depending on the study -- for the very lowest skilled native
workers, i.e., high school dropouts.
Your subsequent assertions are somewhat contradicted by the fact
that unemployment in the US has been consistently at the lowest
levels conceivable at the same time that all this supposedly
harmful immigration has been occurring.
Incidentally, the effects of technology in disemploying native
labor are an order of magnitude greater than the effects of
immigration in disemploying native labor. Are you willing to take
the same position with regard to "discouraged workers" to argue
that technological improvements in production should not be
allowed?
Lower costs are lower costs. Freer people are freer people. Free
migration is a win for both economy and migrants.
when the immigrant computer programmer drives down wages for
his native professional peers, that pushes wages down for everyone
of lesser skills until some file clerk can get more by filing a
phony disability claim than by continuing to work.
If you apply the essence of your argument to natural population
growth, you would come to the conclusion that as more children
enter the workforce, everyone's wages crash to the point the whole
population files phony disability claims.
The economy is not zero-sum. If someone is willingly doing labor,
and someone is willingly paying him to do the labor, both are
better off, and those gains accrue to the economy.
Those in direct competition to newly introduced workers
may see a hit on their wage. They can choose to accept it or to
move into another line of work where their comparative advantage is
now greater. A particularly common response is to subdivide the
line of competition so both the new labor and the experienced labor
are better used, resulting in a net increase in the experienced
labor's wage.
Technology (capital) improvements only disemploy labor to the
extent they increase (labor) productivity. Gains from such
improvements are distributed unevenly because they often shift
demand for labor from low- to high-skilled segments of the
workforce, but the overall productivity gain is real.
Substituting low-skill, low-priced immigrant labor for native labor
does not increase productivity at all (well, it may on a per-dollar
basis, but not on a per-hour basis).
Real (capital) productivity improvements yield a surplus which
makes society richer. Substituting cheap exogenous labor for native
labor just transfers wealth from the native laborers to their (ex-)
employers. There is no overall gain. (And to the extent that
immigrants and the workers they displace absorb more social
spending, they may make society worse off.)
Now if your fantasy, that availability of workers necessarily
summons up jobs for them, were true then the economy would absorb
the low-skilled workers displaced by immigrants. However, that
notion (kind of a bastardized interpretation of Say's Law) is
demonstrably false. Just look at the countries which are to supply
the immigrants: they are full of underemployed labor. Why aren't
those people employed at home?
Answer: because demand for labor varies with all kinds of
considerations. Just because labor is available does not mean it
will be employed. (And in the USA, minimum wage laws prevent the
profitable employment of the least skilled workers.)
You wish to analyze labor as a commodity, ignoring the fact that
workers are not goods-- they produce all kinds of externalities
which goods cannot (like, say, competing with natives for housing,
or producing children who will grow up into criminals, or at least
fodder for demagogues). Fine. Think of immigrants as if they were
tangible goods. If you admit them freely the price for labor of
comparable quality in the USA will fall until an equilibrium is
reached-- that is, until the wages offered for low-skilled labor in
the USA are very nearly the same as wages offered in, say, Rio de
Janeiro. At those wages the laborers will subsist at the lowest
possible level. This may make American elites happy since it will
solve their "servant problem," but it will have at least two bad
effects: (1) The helots will be restless. It's worth a rabiblanco's
life to walk into, say, a Brazilian favela. Your immigration
proposal will bring those shantytowns here (since that is the goal;
you said so yourself!). (2) America's highly productive "middle
class society" will be destroyed, replaced with a lords-and-serfs
society like most other countries in the world have.
As for the suggestion that American "institutions" could absorb and
transform any number of immigrants into middle-class Americans, it
has already been proved false. Just look at Los Angeles today,
which has a huge Mexican population and is morphing into a Mexican
city linguistically (in 2000 the Census found 54% of people in Los
Angeles MSA spoke a language other than English at home),
politically, and economically.
I have no objection to Americans investing in foreign countries to
employ cheap labor there. Bringing the cheap labor here, though, is
a different kettle of fish. Immigrant laborers won't go home to
their ancestral favelas every day at 5pm. They will create favelas
in the USA, and destroy the USA in the process. Worse, native
Americans will be asked to finance the healthcare, education,
policing, etc. of the immigrants. If the employers were charged
with the full costs of such care, they wouldn't want unskilled
immigrants. That proves their arrival is bad for the USA.
Finally, go read
Garett Jones et-al., IQ In The Production Function which
explains that immigrants from low-IQ countries are low-productivity
workers in the USA even after controlling for
education.
Now if your fantasy, that availability of workers
necessarily summons up jobs for them, were true then the economy
would absorb the low-skilled workers displaced by
immigrants.
You confuse cause and effect. I do not claim that the supply of
immigrants produces jobs for them. I claim that immigrants come to
the US because there are opportunities for them. Were the
opportunities to disappear, so would the immigration -- as
evidenced in the decline in immigration during and after the 2001
economic downturn. I fully expect a significant decline in
unskilled immigration with the coming downturn, especially given
that it is centered around the immigrant-heavy construction
industry.
Just look at the countries which are to supply the immigrants:
they are full of underemployed labor. Why aren't those people
employed at home?
Because their economies are not the engines of productivity that
the economy of the US is.
Indeed, as the US economy becomes more and more productive, and as
the native population steeped in that environment raises their own
personal capital to match it, gaps are generated in the supply of
labor for lower skilled occupations that do not as yet admit
themselves to productivity enhancements.
The US economy has jobs that so many from other economies would so
much want to do. It is bad for them and bad for the US to make it
illegal.
If you admit them freely the price for labor of comparable
quality in the USA will fall until an equilibrium is reached-- that
is, until the wages offered for low-skilled labor in the USA are
very nearly the same as wages offered in, say, Rio de
Janeiro.
Since we do not see low-skilled wages in Connecticut falling until
they are nearly the same as wages offered in Mississippi, I have
little faith in your model of labor migration.
Just look at Los Angeles today, which has a huge Mexican
population and is morphing into a Mexican city linguistically (in
2000 the Census found 54% of people in Los Angeles MSA spoke a
language other than English at home), politically, and
economically.
Your 54% is the number of people in
Los Angeles County who speak nothing but English at home. Yet
of the 38% who speak Spanish at home, a full two-thirds of them
speak English well or very well.
As for politics, I do believe that LA still falls under Article IV,
Section 4, of the Constitution as well as the 14th Amendment. And
it's hard to tell what you mean by an economically Mexican city. To
try to put some perspective on it, LA County has a per-capita
income greater than all but one county in Mississippi and a
per-capita income less than all but one county in Connecticut.
Sounds pretty middle-of-the-road American to me.
No, the US Census
found that 54% in Los Angeles (in 2000, it's likely worse now)
speak other than English at home. Your source
has perversely inverted the statistic.
Once again, the issue is not whether immigrants can find
jobs here-- of course they can because they work for less.
The important issue is whether low-skilled natives will
find jobs after they lose their current ones to immigrants. I've
pointed that out to you several times but you refuse to address
it.
Since low-skilled natives are eligible for unemployment
and welfare and low-skilled natives are accustomed to a
high standard of living and low-skilled natives are likely
to go on public assistance if they lose their jobs to low-skilled
immigrants, what do you propose to do about the
natives?
There is no reason to think that displaced natives will magically
acquire more human capital and qualify for high-skilled jobs.
When the displaced native moves to the next-best job, you
want to import another immigrant to displace him again,
until the wages the native can command fall to the wages immigrants
will accept. That's what your word "opportunities" means, it means
jobs which a low-skilled immigrant will do for lower wages than a
native. There is always an opportunity for someone who
will take lower wages.
Look, substituting an immigrant for a native in a low-skilled job
will save an employer a few thousand a year. But social spending on
the displaced native (plus the impact of crime) will cost more than
that, plus the native's kids will more likely end up
criminals.
Contra Pritchett, the reason a welfare state is
incompatible with immigration is not just because the immigrants
might draw welfare, it's because the natives will take up welfare
when it pays better (net, as I wrote before, of subjective- value-
of- leisure- time and proceeds- of- crime) than work.
Look, I'm fully aware that labor protectionism is a form of social
spending. The question is like a "carbon tax" versus a "cap and
trade" regime. The point is to design a scheme which produces the
best social effects. Your plan is to import a lot of low-skilled
immigrants to drive down wages for low-skilled work. That will save
employers a little, but at the cost of more social spending on
natives financed by broad-based taxes. It is virtually certain that
when you net out employers' savings with society's costs the result
will be negative. Employers are still eager for this because they
will profit. They are happy to take a deal which pays them
personally a dollar even if it costs society at large two bucks--
it's the same as, say, sports-stadium construction subsidies. Rent
seeking always benefits some people even if it is negative-sum
overall.
My plan is to maintain native workers' wages by forbidding
employers to import low-skilled immigrants. We'll all pay a bit
more for goods and services but less in taxes to finance social
spending, and the children of those low-skilled workers will grow
up in productive households and imbibe socially-useful attitudes.
We do not "need" immigrant workers, we have plenty of
unemployed/underemployed people in the US.
Since the natives are US Citizens they have a legitimate claim on
the protection of their government. The prospective immigrants are
citizens of the countries where they live and have no
claim on the United States (at least, no positive claim-- I
think they have a right to have the USA leave them alone, in their
homes).
As for your "engine of productivity" argument, the best predictor
of national economic productivity is national average IQ. Bringing
low-skilled low-IQ immigrants to the USA will likely
destroy the "engine of productivity" you value so much.
You dismiss international comparisons on the claim that the USA has
"better institutions" than other countries. If those institutions
were so fine other countries could copy them. The fact that they
mostly don't proves that "institutions" mean nothing apart from the
people who implement them. (You may say "Japan took up US-style
institutions and prospered." I say, "sure, and the Japanese have
high IQ's. What about, say, Liberia? How well did US-style
institutions do there?")
(By the way, once you adjust for local cost of living, low-skilled
wages in CT are about the same as low-skilled wages in other
states.)
No, the US Census found that 54% in Los Angeles (in 2000,
it's likely worse now) speak other than English at home. Your
source has perversely inverted the statistic.
Actually, I was the one who accidentally inverted it. I meant to
type 46%. Apologies.
The important issue is whether low-skilled natives will find
jobs after they lose their current ones to immigrants. I've pointed
that out to you several times but you refuse to address
it.
You have pointed it out often, but you have failed to prove it. In
contrast, I have suggested that the phenomenally low unemployment
history of the past couple decades during a time of historically
high immigration belies your argument.
It should be easy enough for you to prove your argument. Simply
show an increase in welfare rolls or chronic unemployment
commensurate with immigration. The fact that there are many
different regions with many different immigration patterns should
make it nicely robust.
In the meantime, forgive me if I still consider it self evident
that consistent full employment during a time of high immigration
means that the immigration is not permanently disemploying
anyone.
Your plan is to import a lot of low-skilled immigrants to drive
down wages for low-skilled work.
Uh, no. My plan is not to "import" anyone. My plan is to allow free
migration just as we now allow (almost) free trade. If people don't
find it worthwhile to come to the US to take jobs, I have no desire
to make them come.
The prospective immigrants are citizens of the countries where
they live and have no claim on the United States (at least, no
positive claim-- I think they have a right to have the USA leave
them alone, in their homes).
And I think they have a right to be left alone in their freedom to
travel, reside, labor, and otherwise associate regardless of which
side of the US border they were born on or which side of the US
border they presently occupy.
The headline US "unemployment" rate is a poor guide to
understanding the impact of immigration, not least because
"discouraged workers" and prisoners are excluded.
You should read "Effects of
Immigration on African-American Employment and Incarceration" by
Borjas, Grogger, and Hanson.
Among other things, they show that a 10% increase in immigration
translates to a 2.4% drop in the (native) black male employment
rate and about a 1% increase in the black male incarceration
rate.
(Why don't you accept the term "import" when applied to laborers?
When Americans import Dutch cheese or Chilean table grapes that's
just voluntary exchange. The same process occurs with labor. The
only difference is that cheese or table grapes get consumed, and
low-skilled labor leaves the workplace at 5pm to get drunk, blast
salsa music, and jeer at passing women in the park.)
You should read "Effects of Immigration on African-American
Employment and Incarceration" by Borjas, Grogger, and
Hanson.
Are there number or dollar estimates in the full paper that weigh
the total costs of this effect against the benefits of the
immigrants who did not displace low skilled workers? If
there aren't, it's probably not worth my paying for the
paper.
Also, since a good deal of the newly incarcerated were likely
convicted under drug laws that became increasingly draconian just
as immigration rose, I wonder if the authors accounted for the
economic gain due to "unemployed" native workers who took jobs in
the drug trade and did not find their way into
prison.
Why don't you accept the term "import" when applied to
laborers?
The term is fine so long as it is not loaded by context. I wanted
to make it clear that I am not blithely for the immigration of
scads of unskilled workers. Rather, I am pro-free
migration. If individuals of low skill, medium skill, or high skill
find it in their interest to migrate to the US, and if enterprises
in the US find it in their interest to employ them, then they
should be free to migrate -- temporarily or permanently.
If the US wants to get out of the hole were it is digging itself
into, it has to grow so as to be able to take care of the
outstanding stock of debt.
The most direct and expedient way to do so would be to call upon
some 40 million more working immigrants to help them in that
otherwise monumental task.
Why should industrial China be able to use rural China for their
growth and not North America Central America?
People are not televisions or factory machines or microchips.
They will eventually get citizenship, eventually vote, eventually
have children. It is strange that an economist cannot comprehend
that. It is doubly strange that open-borders libertarians don't
look to the example of what the rise in 'Latino' political power
has meant in California namely more wealth-transfer programs.
Neither the interviewer nor the 'economist' seems to have learned
the concept of externalities. But anyone that drives the five, or
surfer in Southern California campaigning to save San Onofre from
yet another highway project understands the concept quite well.
Yeah yeah , I know, privatize everything. Well, tell you what, you
guys privatize everything -- including costs of schooling
immigrants' children, health care costs for immigrants, roads that
are congested by immigrant-led population growth, and a million
other things, then we can talk.
Quite clearly immigration, unlike trade in goods, doesn't led to
Pareto-optimal outcomes. It makes many people worse off, and
benefits a few.
I have to say this article gave some good arguments for increasing (im)migration, but it actually points out some things that make me less likely to support a guest-worker program. Are we actually going to have a class of people that are less legally protected than the rest of us? Are we really going to deport a woman for becoming pregnant? Yes, on a purely utilitarian basis we would, but in terms of our long term identity as a land of liberty and equality under the law this is extremely dangerous. I support higher legal immigration, but we shouldn't fool ourselves that all these people are just here temporarily.
I agree with Denis de Tray when he says "only by moving
accountability back to the developing countries can the Bank hope
to make progress in the fight against corruption"... as long as we
clearly remember this is no excuse to wash our hands from our own
responsibility.
I am extremely enthusiastic about Lant Pritchett's arguments as
they so closely mirror so many things that I have been arguing
while an Executive Director in the World Bank (2002 - 2004) and
thereafter… I must say not without much luck in getting the message
thru.
That said there are nuances of course, like the following:
1. Are we really talking about the real dimensions?
El Salvador's GDP is about 18.5 billion dollars in 2007. If we from
this GDP deduct the 3.7 billion that their emigrant workers sent
and that clearly translated into a larger GDP we could say that El
Salvador's GDP net of their emigrant workers is 14.8 billion
dollars.
Now if say that the 3.7 billion that the Salvadorian emigrants
remitted to El Salvador is 15 percent of their gross earnings
(mostly salaries) then we could say that the Gross Emigrant Product
GEP of the Salvadorians for 2007 is 24.7 billion dollars.
And there you have it El Salvador's GDP in El Salvador 14.8 and El
Salvador's GEP outside of El Salvador 24.7!
And if you add El Salvador's GDP and GEP you come up with 39.5
billion…and you might then suddenly realize that El Salvador has
been growing faster than China.
2. The emigrants deserve more say…at home!
The emigrants are easily forgotten by their homeland (except for
their remittances) and at best welcomed lukewarm as immigrants by
their new host and employer. In other words the emigrant/immigrant
lives in a Limbo. I believe that the best way to assert the
immigrants rights in the land of their host is to really assert
their rights in their homeland. Therefore, for instance with
reference to El Salvador, they should probably, among much other,
have 50 percent or more of the seats in the Legislative Assembly of
El Salvador.
3. We need to work on solutions not on borders!
I absolutely agree with Pritchard that the border should not have
to be enforced at the border… among other things when border
hinders present the problem that you might not really be sure on
which side of them you might end up. In this sense and to help to
create new solutions I am working at a plan that would have private
insurers guarantee the government the return of immigrants after
their visa expires.
4. The immigrants are much more needed than what is normally
admitted!
The US, not because of the immigrants, has build up a tremendous
overload of public debt that now needs to be serviced. Of course it
will be harder to service it the fewer are working at that. Of
course when the maitre arrives with the check that's not the moment
you would like some of the guests to leave. But if they are free or
forced to leave... why should they not?
It is clearly not political correct to even raise the question but
as Pritchett also dares to hint in that direction let me do it here
too. Is not the best stimulus package we could ever think of for
the US at this moment that of bringing in forty million additional
foreign workers to help it settle the check?
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