VID: Texas Model of Low Taxes and Low Regulations May Lure Sriracha Maker East

After the Irwindale City Council voted last week that the spicy smell of sriracha was a public nuisance, Huy Fong founder David Tran is now entertaining offers to move his business to Texas. Tran has reportedly invited state representative Jason Villalba (R-Dallas) to take a tour of the facility to assess any potential issues before the company considers moving to the Lone Star State. 

The sriracha maker's experience illustrates how Texas is becoming an attractive alternative to businesses that are tired of dealing with crushing regulations in their home states. 

Reason TV's Alexis Garcia recently sat down with Erica Grieder of Texas Monthly about Texas' booming economy and why the state is experiencing robust job growth while the rest of the country seems to be lagging behind. Original release date was March 27, 2014 and original writeup below. 

"A state like this where you see so much growth and so much change...having a limited government apparatus on top of that and a robust private sector has been really good for us," says Erica Grieder, senior editor of Texas Monthly and author of the book Big, Hot, Cheap, and Right: What America Can Learn from the Strange Genius of Texas.

"For the past 10 to 12 years, every economic metric you look at is better than the country as a whole—is better than what you see in most states—and is also pretty broad-based."

Texas has done so well economically, that in October 2013 TIME magazine declared Texas was the country's future. 

Grieder credits what she calls the "Texas model"—a limited government apparatus based on low taxes and low services—for the Lone Star State's economic success. Between June 2009 and June 2011, Texas created 40 percent of America's new net jobs. In that period, Texas saw a net population migration of 110,000 people, making it the fastest growing state in the country. 

But the solid growth of the Texas economy didn't stop critics like Paul Krugman of The New York Times from attacking the data and dismissing the state's performance as myth. 

"The critique of it I was really surprised by, especially when the country was not doing that well. I would think you would at least stop to check the numbers first," says Grieder, who believes criticism of the Texas model is rooted in negative political attitudes toward a state that is largely Republican. "People have this feeling of Texas, [that] it can't possibly be doing well. It's this sort of belligerent state, or not that smart of a state, or whatever their perceptions may be." 

The state's explosive growth and changing demographics (Hispanics are expected to outnumber the state's White population by 2020) have made Texas a valuable prize on the electoral map. Democrat strategists—and even President Barack Obama—have expressed the goal of turning Texas blue in coming election cycles. But Grieder doesn't think that change will come any time soon.

"So far we're not seeing the Democrats putting out the candidates or campaigns or really the message," she states. "The Republicans aren't either which is kind of interesting. Given how well the state has done I've been surprised how the state Republican Party in this last set of primaries is just focused on issues that nobody cares about."

While Grieder says she has seen a surprising resurgence of the religious right in the latest round of primaries, the turn toward the Christian conservative movement is not indicative of mainstream Texans. 

"I think that a lot of Texas Republicans—a lot of Texans in general—are sort of quasi-libertarian or tacitly libertarian because of the issues they prioritize," says Grieder. "I think that the social conservative movement is intrinsically at odds with the libertarian side of the party, but if those issues aren't advanced from the social conservative side then you don't see that tension become so manifest."

Approximately 8:00 minutes. 

Produced by Alexis Garcia. Shot by Paul Detrick and Todd Krainin.

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  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I have a year's supply. I'm quite OK with a move to Texas.

  • AlmightyJB||

    I have qujte a bit of sriracha as well as their chili garlic sauce. Shoukd probably pick up a couple more bottles of each though.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Their Sambal Oelek is good too. More of a paste than a sauce, though.

  • SlV||

    The Huy Fong Sambal Oelek makes a great hotdog relish.I use it in recipes too but mostly as a hotdog/sandwich topping.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It is a staple in my house on Korean Taco night.

  • SlV||

    What goes on a Korean taco? Blood sausage and cabbage? Fishcake and fermented chopped scallions?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Chopped Bulgogi, cabbage, cheese, and sauce.

  • SlV||

    The Huy Fong Sambal Oelek makes a great hotdog relish.I use it in recipes too but mostly as a hotdog/sandwich topping.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Also, I find Marriott's "bottomless mimosa" to be blatant false advertising.

  • Bam!||

    This is the most blatant case of false advertising since my suit against the movie The Neverending Story.

  • C. Anacreon||

    Members of the jury, did this sound like a man who truly had "all he can eat?"

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    The prime rib at this place was along the lines of "Didn't want to eat". It is a brilliant strategy in the short term.

  • Brett L||

    Ruining a prime rib is inexcusable.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    They offered a choice of "Well Done" or "Extremely Well Done".

  • Agammamon||

    Blame the lawyers dude.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    no "run the plate through a hot kitchen and put the steak on it"?

  • Alton Knutson||

    I bought a pair of pants that said "one size fits all" and they started to rip after only 3 or 4 people got into them.

  • jester||

    Marriott is one huge false advertisement. More later.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Justice Scalia to law students: income tax is constitutional per 16th Amendment, but you might want revolt if they get too high

    While speaking last week at the University of Tennessee's College of Law, Scalia was asked by a law student whether he believes the income tax is constitutional.

    According to the Knoxville News Sentinel, Scalia told the student that the government does have a constitutional right to tax income.

    “But if [it] reaches [a] certain point, perhaps you should revolt," Scalia added.

    As the News Sentinel reports, Scalia's talk covered a range of topics, including his decision to side with the majority in Texas v. Johnson, the 1989 decision that said flag burning is protected speech under the First Amendment.

    “You're entitled to criticize the government, and you can use words, you can use symbols, you can use telegraph, you can use morse code, you can burn a flag," he said. "It’s all expression and it’s all covered by the First Amendment."

    That's all fine and well, but what about our Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    He said a lot of shit at that appearance. He's like the Biden of the Supreme Court.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    One professor I had at UCI was actually a student of Scalia's at the University of Chicago law school back in the 1970s.

    From that I got an account that he's an undeniably intelligent man that knows a lot, but he's also a royal prick to people beneath him.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Comments:

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    How about a revolt if college tuition gets too high. Oh...yeah..it already is. Students should have revolted long ago. Maybe if they learned from their "liberal" professors, that college 40 years ago was virtually free, they wouldn't be 100k or more in debt after college, with little or no prospects. Nearly 80% of tuition was covered by the states, now it's reversed. Maybe a little less Prop 13 in California and little higher taxes on everyone, but mostly the ones who can afford it, we'd get free college to all those who qualify and universal health care. This USED to be part of the American dream, but we exported that to Europe.

    SOCIAL JUSTICE!

    1,222 Fans·...Shift Happens..let's make it together...
    Verbally encouraging "revolution" against the Federal government is treasonous. You might encourage youth to speak out, to march, to protest, but revolution? Really? That just shows you how out of touch Scalia is. Contemporary youth are far more likely to "revolt" over income inequality, marriage equality, equal rights for women, voter suppression, and a host of other issues before they take one step on the issue of taxes.

    Gerry R. (GerryOregon)
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    This piece of human waste knows what he is doing. It is a marvelous distraction from the true point. He should be telling the students to revolt if the super rich and huge corporations pay virtually no taxes while the working class shoulders the burden.

  • Virginian||

    Contemporary youth are far more likely to "revolt" over income inequality, marriage equality, equal rights for women, voter suppression, and a host of other issues before they take one step on the issue of taxes.

    Believe it or not, people who pay lots of taxes care a lot more about taxes then "income inequality". The youth will learn that when they grow up. As usual.

    The most damaging change to sensible government ever was giving the franchise to 18 year olds. They should have raised it from 21 to 25.

  • Drake||

    The income tax - and all the accompanying "deductions" - has been turning young Democrats into conservatives and libertarians for decades now.

  • C. Anacreon||

    The most damaging change to sensible government ever was giving the franchise to 18 year olds.

    I think the most damaging change was when they started letting people who don't own property vote. With no skin in the game, there's no reason not to vote yourself as much free stuff as possible.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    With no skin in the game

    Yes, but Federal Income Tax makes this not the case anymore.

  • Rhywun||

    Not to mention that renters pay those taxes too, if not "directly".

  • Suellington||

    Putting your name on a check is much different though. Especially a large one.

  • Homple||

    Why are people smart enough to vote at 18, too dumb to drink until they're 21, and dependent enough to be on parental health insurance until 26?

  • ||

    According to this table, under 9% of those who reported voting in 2012 were between the ages of 18 and 24.

    Assuming 50% of those to be 18-20 is probably generous, but I will for the sake of argument. If we are again generous and assume that age group swings 70% TEAM BLUE (this site says 60% for ages 18-29), that means lowering the age of enfranchisement gave Obama less than a 1% edge (compared to if they had voted 51.1% in favor of Obama like the general population).

    Even assuming that the gap was motivated totally by FREE SHIT rather than KULTUR WAR (which my personal observations suggest is not the case), that's not even close to enough to change the outcome of the election (it was 51.1 vs 47.2).

    Now obviously, it isn't perfect because (among other issues) it's not as if Romney was anti-FREE-SHIT, but it would suggest that lowering the age of enfranchisement was far from the most damaging change to sensible government ever.

  • ||

    "....free college .....universal health care. This USED to be part of the American dream, but we exported that to Europe."

    Huh?

    No mention of the fact that because of 'free' college that costs have skyrocketed to pay for legions of bureaucrats that have no part in education whatsoever? Clearly the problem is that some people have too much money.

  • PapayaSF||

    Back in the old days, colleges had much less in the way of administration. Now they have whole department specializing "diversity."

  • PapayaSF||

    *in "diversity."

  • C. Anacreon||

    I may be wrong on the exact titles and numbers, but the University of California system has something like 18 very-highly paid provosts solely in charge of "diversity."

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    That sounds about right. I had a private meeting with one at Berkeley about 17 years ago. It met or exceeded my expectations.

  • ||

    Plàya, are you a Person of Diversity?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    No. I was there because I was in trouble.

  • ||

    OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I didn't do what I was accused of. I did something, but not that.

  • PapayaSF||

    *departmentS

    Jeebus, and I haven't even had my Easter mimosas yet.

  • ||

    All of that horse shit is because of government guaranteed loans and grants...in other words, because college is 'free'.

  • Acosmist||

    If someone else is paying for college, it's not fucking free. It's especially evil when the working class pays taxes so the children of the upper class can go to college. That's the shit they beheaded people in France over.

    Free college indeed.

  • Virginian||

    That's right. One of the major things I love tearing into leftist students and especially leftist academics about is how working people have their earnings taken from them to fund higher education from which they will not benefit.

    Yes, a union autoworker should totally pay higher taxes so that the child of a corporate middle manager and a housewife can achieve self actualization.

  • jester||

    It takes a village. That's their argument. It's simple and it appeals to millions of constituents. It's the monster you face if you are willing to brave against it.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    The upper class aren't filling out FAFSAs to get Pell Grants and Perkins/Stafford Loans. The middle middle class and upper middle class? Sure.

  • Sheriff Bart||

    I filled out my FAFSA. My wife and I make about $140k/year and we don't get anything for either of our sons. We can get a Stafford loan but cannot even defer the interest until graduation.

    We paid cash for our older son's first two years, and he works now to help us defray tuition costs. We will probably get loans next year.

    My younger son is a senior and he will most likely go to community college and live at home for two years.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    My younger son is a senior and he will most likely go to community college and live at home for two years.

    That's why I did and I do not regret it for a second given how relatively manageable my debt situation is with a decent job. My younger sister took heed and is doing the same thing right now as well.

  • seguin||

    It's a damn good idea, and what I should have done. So much of your first year or so, even in technical fields, is shared with a bunch of other majors - community college has plenty of classes that'll work.

  • Brett L||

    Hell, I had physics at juco taught to me by a guy with a PhD in Nuclear Engineering. Who liked teaching physics to people. Get that at your megaU.

  • Dr Fallout||

    I study nuclear science, I love my classes

    I got a crazy teacher who wears dark glasses

  • C. Anacreon||

    We need to have a reasonable definition of "upper class". The poster who along with his spouse pulls in $140K is in the top 10% of wage earners. Is that upper class? How about top 5%? Top 2%?

    I believe the average surgeon or corporate attorney pulling down $400 K would define himself or herself as "upper middle class", even though they are in the dreaded 1%.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I believe the average surgeon or corporate attorney pulling down $400 K would define himself or herself as "upper middle class", even though they are in the dreaded 1%

    I would argue that it would be a case-by-case basis. Depending on who their parents were, how their families had been established in the country, what access do they have to the social networks of the elite, etc. would be the determinate.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It is very transient in nature. I was in the "1%" for a while before I had kids, and now I'm not (at least I don't think so, I haven't seen a formal definition lately).

    I didn't know what I was saving up for at the time, but it turns out that having a family is very expensive.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    We'll see what happens when your puppy goes on an all-organic filet mignon diet.

  • Acosmist||

    Even then, I have my doubts that those upper class people paying "full" tuition are paying the true costs of their degrees.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    It is indeed true that government subsided higher education distorts costs. However, rich people, just as much as poor people, are forced at gun point to pay taxes. And the rich pay more. Considering the fact that they have no way to opt-out, how is it "evil" to attempt to recoup some of what was stolen from you by taking advantage of an offered benefit?

  • John C. Randolph||

    It surel wasn't "virtually free" forty years ago, it was just priced in a manner consistent with the benefits it delivered. Federal student loans blew that situation all to hell.

    -jcr

  • Paul.||

    erbally encouraging "revolution" against the Federal government is treasonous. You might encourage youth to speak out, to march, to protest, but revolution?

    The sixties this younger generation ain't.

    Oh yeah, and FREE STUFF!

  • x4rqcks3f||

    Small world. I was good friends with Erica Grieder in high school. Glad to see she's libertarian(ish?).

  • AlmightyJB||

    Quite sexy. I do have a thing for smart girls. Was she a hotty back then as well?

  • x4rqcks3f||

    She looks remarkably like she did then.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Nice:)

  • AlmightyJB||

    I've heard Perry might run again. That video should be his campaign commercial.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I just got the helmet attachment for the Go Pro.

    Quick, what is the stupidest, most dangerous thing I can do on short notice?

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Get pulled over and make a furtive motion to the cop?

  • x4rqcks3f||

    Let people who previously respected you know that you have a Go Pro ;)

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    My wife falls into that category. I was doing flips off of the roof into the pool, and she just came out and shook her head.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    I was doing flips off of the roof into the pool, and she just came out and shook her head.

    She wasn't concerned about the prospect of you having an accident and thus rendering her a widowed and pregnant mother of 2 going on 3?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It wasn't dangerous. I do it all the time. This is just the first time I did it with a camera.

    I carry a big policy. She would be living large if I croaked.

  • Virginian||

    I carry a big policy. She would be living large if I croaked.

    Hahahaha this could be the most cold blooded rational libertarian statement of all time. I love it.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Heh, I mean I already knew Playa is well-set financially. I thought it was obvious I meant leaving his 3 boys without a father.

    But emotional attachment to deceased persons no longer needed to provide materially is...illogical.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    If I can't have fun in the pool, what is the point of having a pool?

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    I believe you when you say it is safe. But you were asking about immediately risky stuff to record so I thought it might be more dangerous.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    If I had made it to mountains before all the snow was gone, the magic would have happened there. I fear I am too late, though.

    The pond skim was today at Mammoth.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It's a 2 way street. She carries the same policy.

  • AlmightyJB||

    What's the most dangerous animal around where you live that you can mess with.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Sea Lions.

  • ||

    So, Texas demonstrates for the 5,629 time that freedom is good for the economy. New York, Illinois, California etc demonstrate for the 679,437,198 time that smothering regulations and high taxes are bad for an economy. Whew, finally they will get it (NOT).

    Speaking of which, does anyone know how New York and its campaign to draw business is doing? It seems to me that the tax free zones would piss off existing businesses. Wont those businesses just wait a year or two and sue, forcing NY to tax the new businesses in spite of their promise not to? Is that the plan?

    It is also an admission that NY knows high taxes are bad for business. What this means is that when the high tax crowd starts arguing it does not they are lying through their teeth. They are just outright thieves.

  • Drake||

    I see those tax-free in NY adds all the time in NJ. Every time I wonder what the catches are. (Besides the obvious hardship to any employee stupid enough to move to New York who has the leave his/her firearms at home and get ready for some of the highest state taxes in the country.)

    Do they have to incorporate in NY (a fucking nightmare)? How long before they can flee? Why not just go to a state without income taxes in the first place?

  • ||

    That campaign is a spider-to-the-fly routine. No chance that they are being honest and no chance that the terms are ones that you would not regret agreeing to.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    It's tax free for 10 years right...

    Then we are going to fuck your ass.

  • Res ipsa loquitur||

    Any company dumb enough to fly towards the flame deserves to be ass raped.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    She was asking for it!

  • x4rqcks3f||

    It is also an admission that NY knows high taxes are bad for business.

    If you start from the (faulty) premise that government must provide some services (law, roads, etc.) then there will have to be some sort of Laffer-type curve with a nonzero optimal tax rate. In that case, lowering taxes doesn't imply a belief that zero is the optimal rate.

  • ||

    It does indicate that they know their current rates are not optimal.

  • x4rqcks3f||

    I think it indicates that they style themselves as Top Men who can achieve ends through convoluted means. Their version of an "optimal tax rate" would require ten thousand pages.

  • Vampire||

    Thank you for bringing up the faulty premise. Sadly some folks that spout liberty and freedom contradict themselves when they support those rights and then say they support the coercive and violent power of the state to extort folks for services that the market could provide more efficiently.

  • Rhywun||

    The NYers I talk to mostly get it - for example the butcher across the street who gave me a nice profanity-laden speech about the treatment of small business owners - but the D's have won the Kultur war here which seems more important to most people.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Winning the Kultur War won't move your position on the Laffer Curve. It won't bring you the jobs you need. NY will knuckle under.

  • Virginian||

    You're awfully optimistic. I think NY (well, NYC, upstate is another story) will coast on for a couple decades more. The artistic industries and the financial sector will provide enough to keep things going, along with the continuing flocks of small town dreamers moving to the Big Apple.

    SoCal is the same way. It's just too fundamentally nice there weather and culture wise to ever drop into steep decline. It just won't get bigger.

    Houston will be the biggest city in the country in my lifetime. NYC might even drop past 2nd.

    Detroit and it's daughter cities like Flint have declined because no one wants to live in such a cold and unglamorous place without the booming economy.

  • Cytotoxic||

    As I discuss below, NY is already knuckling under. They're undergoing serious tax reform. Small town dreamers and artsy types don't pay the bills.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Houston will be the biggest city in the country in my lifetime. NYC might even drop past 2nd.

    I respectfully disagree. Houston has a population of 2 mil, with a greater metro population of 6 mil. NYC's population is 8.5 mil with a greater metro population of 20 mil. Even if everyone who could afford to relocate to Houston did, NYC still has the demographic inertia to keep growing just by the amount of people who are born there and can't afford to leave.

  • Virginian||

    Well I expect to live at least another 7 decades. Maybe more. I especially think the boom in domestic energy production will make Houston grow at an incredible rate. Although you do make an excellent point about the inertia of the underclass.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    In 7 decades, I sincerely believe what was once America will be a vast wasteland solely populated by roving cannibal rape gangs, so there's that.

  • Irish||

    In 7 decades, I sincerely believe what was once America will be a vast wasteland solely populated by roving cannibal rape gangs, so there's that.

    And there will be nefarious op-ed writers in the universities of the future who deny the scourge of cannibal rape culture.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Even due to the fact that technology has fallen to iron-age levels, and thusly, the infrastructure that would allow for the mass communication and collation of statistics doesn't exist, you can't deny that one in four women born to this harsh future will suffer the effects of cannibal rape culture.

  • Virginian||

    In 7 decades, I sincerely believe what was once America will be a vast wasteland solely populated by roving cannibal rape gangs, so there's that.

    I'm ready for that too. Well, I don't have a hockey mask. or a V8 Interceptor.

  • Dr Fallout||

    "America will be a vast wasteland solely populated by roving cannibal rape gangs"

    I, for one, welcome our new cannibalistic, raping overlords.

  • Irish||

    Virginian's in his 20's. Detroit peaked at 1.8 million and is now all the way down to 650,000. That's over the course of about 50 years.

    If Virginian lives to his '80s, it's entirely conceivable Houston will have gained 3 or 4 million and New York will have lost several million, in which case it's possible.

    I still don't think it's likely.

  • Rhywun||

    Also, I only see Houston growing out, not up. Can they really annex that much area?

  • Raven Nation||

    Of course, if you get a bunch of NYers moving to TX, they will start voting for politicians who support the policies that screwed NY in the first place.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    The artistic industries and the financial sector will provide enough to keep things going, along with the continuing flocks of small town dreamers moving to the Big Apple.

    People keep saying this. I don't buy it. Nothing is keeping the financial sector in NYC. Move it to Houston.

    I may be wrong, but we'll see.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    The financial sector won't leave NYC until the NY Fed does - which is never.

    The best bet is that technology and cultural changes will break that sector and especially that area's economic power. And the technology is already existent to accomplish that.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    The really galling thing is that they will make a meager effort to reduce taxes (which itself is unlikely to last, as you say) and then see it fail because they failed to address the myriad of government affronts to individual liberty that makes moving to New York untenable.

    At once point the progs will feel vindicated and tell voters "See! We tried libertarian free markets and it didn't work! We need true progressives to run the state!"

  • ||

    And my response will be "Great! Keep at it until you become just like Detroit."

  • ||

    Maybe they could get this guy to be their spokesman.

    http://redalertpolitics.com/20.....-policies/

  • Sevo||

    "The really galling thing is that they will make a meager effort to reduce taxes (which itself is unlikely to last, as you say) and then see it fail because they failed to address the myriad of government affronts to individual liberty that makes moving to New York untenable."

    It'll also fails, since any bizz owner can spot the bait-and-switch from miles off.
    NY politico: 'See, we tried it and no body showed up!'
    Owner: 'You think I'm dumb enough to move there and see you raise the taxes through the roof nest year?'

  • Cytotoxic||

    You ask a very interesting question and I linked to a story about NY's tax revolution a week ago or so. There is a silent tax war amongst the states and Cuomo has no choice but to fight it. He just ended corporate tax on manufacturer's and lowered the rest of the corporate tax too. There may have been some other reforms. Essentially, he expanded those tax-free zone to the whole state. Reason should do a story on this it is a HUGE victory for limited government when blue states are forced to play by red state rules.

  • Brian D||

  • Rhywun||

    I saw that and I'm very interested to see where it goes. If anything, watching Cuomo and De Blasio duke it out on a variety of issues is already proving very entertaining.

  • AlmightyJB||

    "New York, Illinois, California etc demonstrate for the 679,437,198 time that smothering regulations and high taxes are bad for an economy"

    One of these days the right top men will be in charge and then you'll see.

  • ||

    I hope they move to Denton or the new industrial park near my house.

  • Cytotoxic||

  • Irish||

    I'm still amazed by this argument on the right that Snowden is evil because he went to Russia.

    He went to Russia because it was the only nation that would let him stay there. It's not as if it was his first choice. The U.S. government forced him to choose Russia because other countries wouldn't stand up to America and then conservatives blame Snowden for taking the only option that was left to him.

  • Cytotoxic||

    To be fair, a lot of conservatives are calling BS on that BS. Otherwise you're right it's terminally obtuse, like they know they can't really make a point against Snowden so they resort to the 'But Russia and Putin !!n1' crap.

  • Virginian||

    He's not a cunt, he's just a fundamentally decent man who believes that his government is still fundamentally decent. If he did the kind of leaking that Snowden did, and tried to remain in the country to plead the case for transparency and accountability like Snowden chose to do from outside the reach of the US government, then he'd be in a cell demanding that he be treated decently.

  • ||

    George Will calls Edward Snowden a useful idiot.

    Oh, the irony.

  • Irish||

    You're all a bunch of rape culture denialists!

    Rape culture describes the systematic denial of justice for victims of sexual assault: The deck is always stacked against the survivor, and the ignorant defend this status quo. Those, like Kairey, who have the power to create change by advocating for survivors instead choose to ignore their voices, erase their rights and refuse to hold perpetrators accountable.

    Yes, someone who argues that rape culture is a nonsense term bandied about with cynical abandon secretly wants rapists to get away with it.

    Kairey expresses concern for the “wrongfully convicted,” but doesn’t acknowledge that most cases end in settlements, with “no-contact orders” and mandatory counseling for the accused. Suspensions are unusual, and expulsions are extremely rare. Instead of empathizing with survivors, Kairey uses inflamed rhetoric and fear mongering to assert that the new changes to policy will convict innocent persons. This is an empty assertion that is never supported by any facts, statistics, or anecdotes.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Their argument is that most people who are wrongfully accused of rape are just slammed with restraining orders and sent to mandatory counseling.

    How could anyone complain about that?

  • Irish||

    Also, here's some of the 'fear mongering' and 'inflamed rhetoric' from the original post.

    To make matters worse, the University has dropped the standard of proof in sexual assault cases from “clear and convincing evidence” to “preponderance of the evidence.” This means that a Cornell student accused of a violent offense that is sexual in nature will not have the legal safeguards given to others whose alleged offenses were non-sexual. With the punishment being so severe and so much on the line for the accused, how can we accept such a low standard of proof?

    Given that this university has a tremendous power to punish students, we have an obligation to make sure that the innocent do not get hurt. Whenever the University makes the scales of justice unequal, the safeguards of due process and equal protection are put in jeopardy. We must always be presumed to be innocent until proven guilty and be allowed the basic tools needed to defend ourselves. Do not assume that you will never be accused of something you did not do.

    What's this bullshit about 'standard of proof' and 'legal safeguards?' Sounds like inflamed rhetoric to me, rape denier!

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    They need to combine climate change with rape culture, so one can be a climate rape change culture denier.

  • Irish||

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    That's hilarious.

  • AlmightyJB||

    There is nothing you can parody anymore. These morons are going to put the Onion out of business.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Since it's Easter, I'm not going to use the big dudes name in vain. But for Aqua Buddha's sake....

  • ||

    Keep in mind Irish, the foaming-at-the-mouth feminists are all personality disorders or just plain mentally ill. Look at their personal blogs. All of them admit it somewhere. Most are bi-polar, depressed, or borderline personality disorders with a sprinkling of other kinds of crazy to include the rest.

  • Virginian||

    The deck is always stacked against the survivor

    OK, that right there is pure, unadulterated bullshit. These people live in a fantasy world. If a woman accuses a man of rape, he is going to jail right then and there. If they had consensual sex, he better hope he taped it or his roomate saw her leave happy, or he is going to jail.

    http://www.centerforinquiry.ne.....ase_study/

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....ecade.html

    Oh, and Jameis Winston and the Duke lacrosse boys can tell you about false rape accusations.

  • Irish||

    I once saw an episode of SVU where a woman falsely accused a man of kidnapping and raping her. When they found out, one of the officers said 'false rape accusations are terrible! They make it so women who make real rape accusations aren't taken seriously!'

    Yeah, who gives a fuck about the guy she almost sent to prison for ten years?

  • ||

    A guy who would in all likelihood be actually beaten and/or raped at some point in his incarceration.

  • Wandering Texan||

    OT: Linky

    50 Million USD does not buy what it used to.

  • ||

    Why the fuck is a shell casing coming out of the barrel?

    Why indeed

  • ||

    Because.....of that thing that goes up?

  • ||

    Because of weapons grade stupid.

  • ||

    At least we know that Bloomturd is spending his money well. I don't know about you, but that gives me a warm feeling.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Why is the entire cartridge coming out the muzzle?

    And we should listen to them because they are so well informed on the subject.

    Credibility...got any?

  • Virginian||

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Is that all bullets or just some bullets.

    Many, many people have gone faster than subsonic rounds.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Progressive youth activist group Generation Progress fights gun violence with....an interpretive dance

  • ||

    Pure hive mind, emotion driven behavior but at least there is a complete lack of rational thought.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Well they are harder to shot when they move around.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    "Congress broke a promise"

    What, for reciprocal concealed carry?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    530 views. That's some hard hitting shit.

  • Paul.||

    Fuck, I just gave them 531

  • Paul.||

    Killed on a Chicago city bus. How is that possible with the gun regulation in Chicago?

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Official Twitter account of Healthcare.gov thanks millions of Americans for signing up for insurance, reminds them that they actually have to pay their premiums

    That is pretty funny. Apparently having to pay for the stuff you put in your online shopping cart might not be self-evident to many Americans.

  • ||

    "Do ya'll know what Passover is?"

    God my sister-in-law is fucking stupid.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Ask how long she believes Jew's horns grow.

  • ||

    Did you ever get a chance to look at the Grass Mud Horse Lexicon?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Virginian||

    Be nice. Not all of us had Rugrats to teach us what Passover is.

  • Virginian||

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I sure as fuck do. Pizza night next Tuesday.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Just tell her to nail a lamb to her door and she'll be safe from the Jews.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Did you tell her it's when she misses her period.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Or better yet what happened to her when God was passing out brains.

  • Vampire||

    So, if lower taxes and less government result in improvements to business and individuals in an economy, then zero taxes and the absence of a violent, coercive government would be the greatest benefit to individuals in an economy.

  • ||

    Asking or asserting?

  • ||

    So, if less food and less rest results in improvements in health for obese people, then zero food and the absence of rest would be the greatest benefit to obese people.

    Makes sense.

  • Vampire||

    Totally different as food and nutrients are required to live. Reducing food consumption, and eating healthier would be beneficial for an obese person. The absence of rest is detrimental to health.

    Taxation is not necessary to live. You don't eat taxes, and can not grow apple trees, lettuce or tomatoes by planting taxes (if you extorted tax money you would wind up with less and eventually no apple trees due to the failure that is central planning and socialism)

    Nice try though.

  • ||

    There are no functions that cannot be supplied by the private sector, but there are some that are not necessarily done best by the private sector.

    There is a limited role for government to play. Very. Limited.

  • x4rqcks3f||

    there are some that are not necessarily done best by the private sector.

    There is a limited role for government to play

    The former does not imply the latter. But you minarchists are still ok in my book.

  • ||

    It does not imply it, true. Choosing it though, would be wise. Why not have government do something if government is the most efficient means of doing it?

    It is possible to make government accountable. The government I have in mind looks nothing like the perverse, illegitimate gang of thugs and thieves we have now.

    In either case, some form of cooperative would form to accomplish tasks that require the cooperation of large numbers of diverse people. Whether private or public it would look about the same.

    "The former does not imply the latter. But you minarchists are still ok in my book."

    I suspect minarchists and anarchists would both be just fine living in the other's world.

  • x4rqcks3f||

    Why not have government do something if government is the most efficient means of doing it?

    The ends don't justify the means. If you desire an end that can't be achieved voluntarily, abandon it.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Pennsylvania teen suspended for asking Miss America to prom sparks division among Jezebel readers

    KilcommonsUIsha Aran
    Today 3:51pm

    It's three days of in-school suspension — it's not that big a deal. He was told not to do it, he did it anyway, so he's being held accountable for what he freely chose to do. Notice that he managed to get the focus directed on 18-year-old, pre-frat boy behavior instead of this woman's actual speech about STEM careers. There's plenty of reasons high school students should stand up and break some rules, but this ain't one of them.

    sostankyUIsha Aran
    Today 3:25pm
    That reply is basically a yes. Nice job Pat.

    SamBargeUsostanky
    Today 3:35pm

    That reply is basically: "No but I can't rude about it because I have a job in PR so I'm going to pretend I'm busy, you sad pathetic boy. Try asking a girl your own age that might actually want to go to prom." Sorry, Pat. Maybe you should consider boundaries next time you try to strong arm a woman into validating your self-esteem.

    Interrupting a speech is kind of dickish but it's pretty harmless. I'm puzzled at the notion that a woman who became a celebrity for her beauty should not have to suffer attention from admirers.

  • x4rqcks3f||

    He was told not to do it, he did it anyway, so he's being held accountable for what he freely chose to do.

    What if he told the administrators not to suspend him and they did it anyway?

  • ||

    There is no behavior that is acceptable to them. Any and every interaction between males and females, including the lack thereof, is grounds for their crazy, spittle spewing rants.

  • Ted S.||

    Some woman whose claim to fame is sleeping with a prominent elected official interrupted and bullied an Olympic gold medallist on national TV for the athlete's choice of food. Suggest this is a bad thing, and most people will look at you as though you're crazy.

  • Vampire||

    Suthenboy:--- "There are no functions that cannot be supplied by the private sector, but there are some that are not necessarily done best by the private sector.

    There is a limited role for government to play. Very. Limited."----

    I used to ascribe to some of what the minarchists spoke about. But being I aspired to support freedom and liberty, I would be a hypocrite if I said I supported those natural rights, and then went on to say there is some sort of role for government to exist, and maintain a monopoly on something to where individuals would be subjects/serfs/slaves to the state which goes against freedom.

    There is no such thing as a voluntary government. They must use force to include violence in order to exist.

    What is not done best by free individuals in a free market that are able to economize, and can reward or punish the entity providing the product or service, versus a coercive, and violent state that is shielded from consequences of such actions, and the subsequent voices and regulations of free individuals in a free market?

  • Derpetologist||

    SadBeard in a hoody comments on the State of the Union address:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-tnSDL8F-E

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    That's a face for radio.

  • Paul.||

    And a voice for silent movies.

  • Derpetologist||

    Yet another terrible music video brought to you by the Oregon Obamacare exchange:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLpKDNVU9dA

  • x4rqcks3f||

    We're free to be healthy

    Doesn't subsidizing insurance make people free to be unhealthy?

  • Derpetologist||

    Shh! You're not supposed to infer that!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Julie Borowski celebrates this special day:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZFtUkV3Lu4

  • Derpetologist||

    Who's up for some social justice slam poetry?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6ZyW_twrhU

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    There's trouble in the forest...

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Kanye West uses Confederate battle flag iconography:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....ichie.html

  • Rhywun||

    Some people just can't carry off the ass-hanging-out look.

  • Virginian||

    Haha go Kanye. He actually made it more awesome. Love the words he added.

  • Derpetologist||

    Satire of every slam poem ever:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQZJJON1m9o

  • Derpetologist||

    I can't tell if this slam poem is parody or not:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AH7RPIsIRk

  • Rich||

    Checking out her website should help you decide.

  • Irish||

    Man, I sure would love to check out her website if someone would link it properly.

  • Rich||

    Here, sorry.

    And so to bed ...

  • Paul.||

    I still can't decide.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Just your typical love story out of New Jersey: Girl meets boy (online), girl goes out with boy, girl brings boy home on first date, boy steals girl's TV and dog

    A New Jersey man has returned the dog and flat-screen TV he stole on their first date.

    Dover police reported the woman and man she met online went out for the first time Thursday night.

    After returning home, the woman said she became occupied in another room, leaving the man alone. When she returned, he was gone — and so were her Yorkshire Terrier named Violet and her TV valued at $3,000. The woman says her dog was worth $4,000.

    The woman says she knew her date only as Joel and believes he lives in Elizabeth.

    But at 3 a.m. Saturday police received a call from the woman stating the dog and TV was in her front yard.

    Police said they know the man's identity and may press charges.

  • Sevo||

    See Jane run!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    $3000 is pretty expensive for a used TV.

    I have a 70" in the living room, and I think I got it 2 years ago for around $1800.

  • Agammamon||

    How *long* was she 'occupied' - $3k for a tv puts it in the 65in range. Not something you're just gonna pick up after you slip the dog in a backpack.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "The tyranny of the organic mommy mafia"

    http://nypost.com/2014/04/19/t.....SocialFlow

  • Sevo||

    "For some of them, feeding their families organic is a status symbol."

    No, for ALL of them it is.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It's out of control around here. I have shamed many a parent lately.

  • Sevo||

    I guess you caught that Walmart is gonna sell 'organic'?
    Certainly no harm done; those who shop at Walmart are welcome to food snobbery as much as those who shop at Whole Foods.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I'm not even sure how the economics behind that are supposed to work. In my mind, there isn't a whole lot overlap between Walmart shoppers and people who pay a premium for "organic" food.

  • Sevo||

    I'm just guessing here, but the term "organic" means pretty much what the grower decides, much to the anger of the 'purists' who have to have it grown in pig shit.
    So now Walmart can offer "organic" at, say 10% more than the alternative (pretty much the cert and labeling costs), and those at the checkout lines can see who springs the extra 10% and who doesn't!
    What's more, Walmart got national news coverage a couple of weeks ago for bringing snobbery to the masses! So whoever pitched it at the meeting last fall is looking at a BIG bonus!

  • BuSab Agent||

    Maybe it's the engineer in me but the term "organic" means containing carbon chains. As for food, I generally do prefer carbon-based--it really does taste better--the silicon-based food causes serious indigestion and really has no flavor. As for breeding I seek out GMO's...wild mutations scare me.

  • Dr Fallout||

    "silicon-based food causes serious indigestion"

    Not to mention the debilitating anal fissures.

  • Rich||

    A man could consume 133951 servings of Celery in one day without any effect even if the Celery have the highest pesticide residue recorded for Celery by USDA.

    I call bullshit.

    No one could eat *that* much celery without some kind of effect.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Yep. You would have 3rd degree burns if you went outside in the sun. Celery is loaded with psoralens.

  • Warrren||

    From the planet Psoralea?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    That's just the jug wine talking.

  • Rhywun||

    Of course, you would have to carry your exploded guts outside with you.

  • Sevo||

    Got Pipes "Russia Under the Bolshevik Regime". Only a bit into it, but there's an interesting comparison:
    Figes spends much page-space and several footnotes distancing himself from Pipes whom he never quite states, but hints strongly is a 'right wing historian'. Most of the issues in question are distinctions without differences, but one in particular is a "difference" and it seems Pipes' take on it is accurate where Figes' isn't.
    Anyhow, Pipes uses a footnote to refer to Figes work in this book without political statement.
    Methinks Figes doth protest too much.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Arya and the Hound should get a show in Vegas.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    I guess Game of Thrones couldn't pay Jack Gleeson enough money to film Jaime raping Cersei on top of him.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    How many indiscretions can you pack into one scene?

  • BuSab Agent||

    I know. I watched that and I was thinking. "REALLY?!" Incestuous rape on the corpse of their son in a church. How many layers of wrong can you pack in one scene.

  • MJGreen||

    And of course, of course, this is spawning stupid fucking "think pieces" about misogyny or exploitation or whatever the fuck. Oh for the days when rape was just another plot point. Now it's fodder for the Internet righteousness brigade.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Well they might have a point there since the director of this episode insists it was consensual at the end.

    So yeah, that made me uncomfortable and not just because of the incest.

    But hey, at least we get a Dornish bisexual orgy.

  • Virginian||

    But hey, at least we get a Dornish bisexual orgy.
    _______

    So are they just gonna put that in every episode?

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    everybody's missing half the world's pleasure, or something?

  • kibby||

    He's absolutely right! Hooray awesome bisexual characters!

  • Virginian||

    Calm down girl.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    It's easier for girls to enjoy both sides of the buffet table.

  • kibby||

    This is true. There's a reason women are usually the subject of art, we've definitely got more attractive physical qualities.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Elaine: I don't know how you guys walk around with those things.
  • Virginian||

    definitely got more attractive physical qualities.

    ________

    I'll argue with a lot of statements, but I won't argue with that one.

  • MJGreen||

    I think there's an argument to be made that the directing, writing and editing made the scene very confusing. I could understand if it was consensual, as you see Cersei taking some initiative, but then there's the ambiguity of her "it's not right" line. I wouldn't be surprised if it's confirmed next week that they both got off on their little power play in the sept. But if they wanted to make it clear that it was consensual, they should've added more to convey that.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Oh LA Kings, will you never learn?

  • Raymond Luxury Yach-t||

    Good show

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    "Just Tell the truth" - Sally Draper says without irony, to a father who has no clue.

  • Warrren||

    Way to go Blue jackets! I don't care about hockey normally but I love stories like a team finally winning their first playoff game ever.

  • RishJoMo||

    Dude that makes no sense at all man, None.

    www.GotsDatAnon.tk

  • prolefeed||

    Houston will be the biggest city in the country in my lifetime. NYC might even drop past 2nd.

    Doubt it. Texas is growing by sprawling outward, because there is a lot of flat buildable land with few zoning restrictions forcing people into densely populated urban areas.

    Houston is only technically the 4th biggest city because it has a huge amount of land, 600 square miles. But if you go to the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area, it has more people than the Houston metro area and there isn't any real indication that you went from one city to the next as you go from Fort Worth to Dallas to Plano to ...

    Trying to guess whether Texas' growth due to favorable government will continue for the next 70 years is a fool's game, since the people moving there may turn it Blue, the way CA went from a Red state to a dark Blue state over several decades.

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