Does Obama Have the Votes on Syria Intervention? Will He?

not looking real kineticWhite HousePublic opinion polls seem to agree, the possibility of US intervention in Syria is very unpopular among the American people. Nevertheless, while President Obama continues to insist he has the authority to use military force in Syria without Congressional approval, he and his administration are still pushing Congress to vote to authorize action in Syria. At the G-20 in St. Petersburg this week, the president is not finding a lot of international support for military intervention in Syria. He reportedly arrived late and alone to a dinner with other world leaders tonight, where Putin said they would have a chance to talk about Syria, not officially on the economic summit’s agenda.

The president has also canceled a trip to Los Angeles which included a Hollywood fundraiser an an AFL-CIO convention speech, which the Hill suggests is partly because the Obama Administration doesn’t have the votes on a Syrian intervention in the House of Representatives. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee passed a resolution on military action in Syria by a 10-7 vote, with two Democrats joining five Republicans in voting no. The other seven Democrats voted for the resolution, joined by Bob Corker, the ranking Republican on the committee, and Arizona senators John McCain and Jeff Flake.

In the House, Rep. Justin Amash suggested lawmakers who support the intervention might as well start packing their bags because of the “[u]nprecedented level of public opposition” to military action in Syria. Like several of the senators at yesterday’s Syria hearing, Amash says he’s met very few constituents who actually support intervening in Syria. The chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, meanwhile, asked caucus members to “limit public comment” on intervention in Syria until getting “more information” from the administration.

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  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    So the question is: will he say he fuck it and proceed with a strike anyway without Congressional approval or will he hold a news conference in wake of his defeat in Congress and throw a tantrum like the petulant child that he is?

    I'm leaning towards the latter, I don't think his narcissism has made him that detached from reality.

  • Rich||

    I'm thinking "We *deem* Congress to have given its approval".

  • ||

    He will not strike without Congress. In fact, it's been his plan from the beginning. He wants nothing to do with a strike, but saw this as an opportunity to make the NSA, Benghazi and the IRS disappear from the front page.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    You kidding me? The MSM had that angle taken care of already.

    This is just more incompetence from the guy who makes GWB look like Ozymandias.

  • ||

    Bush stayed out of Syria

    Ramessess II did not.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    He reportedly arrived late and alone to a dinner with other world leaders tonight, where Putin said they would have a chance to talk about Syria, not officially on the economic summit’s agenda.

    This -- and not any polls about what the hoi polloi deign to opine on the God Emperor's master plan -- is what will stop BO from doing much in Syria. Obama is driven by what these people think about him; indeed, he probably expected accolades for his stand on Syria rather than the hostility he's received so far. The Euros are supposed to like bombing people for their own good, after all -- intervention in the Balkans having been the first military action coordinated by the EU.

  • Floridian||

    The chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, meanwhile, asked caucus members to “limit public comment” on intervention in Syria until getting “more information” from the administration

    Yes, because they work for President Obama and not for their constituents.

  • CE||

    You think they take their marching orders from Al Qaeda?

  • Hugh Akston||

    He'll get authorization. Even though he has demonstrated that he doesn't give a flying shit about the Constitutional limits to his authority, he's not going to let Congress make him look like a jackass by voting him down and forcing him to go ahead without approval.

    Through a combination of feckless leader-worship, favor-trading, Whip strongarming, and outright threats, he'll get the votes he needs. It may just squeak by, but he'll get his resolution.

  • Cytotoxic||

    I bet David Cameron thought the same thing.

  • CE||

    So Congress is just another community to organize?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Lame duck presidents don't have that kind of power.

    And I'm pretty sure Congresscreatures remember him reneging on the Cornhusker Kickback and all the other "deals" BO made to get Obamacare passed.

  • Rich||

    The chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, meanwhile, asked caucus members to “limit public comment” on intervention in Syria until getting “more information” from the administration.

    So, no "We don't know nothin' 'bout killin' babies!"?

    Sorry 'bout the RACIST comment; but Marcia Fudge, shame on *you*! 8-(

  • Goldwin Smith||

    Didn't she say the war must be supported in order to not embarrass Obama?

  • Les||

    Jeff Flake has certainly disappointed.

  • ||

    He is making me regret my vote for him.

  • SIV||

    Jeff Flake is "Maverick-Lite". Maybe Welsh can write a book about him too.

  • BakedPenguin||

    FYI, Welch's book on McCain wasn't laudatory.

  • SIV||

    No shit. That's why he should write one trashing Flake too.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    You didn't like his open borders support?

  • Paul.||

    More important than going to war in the Middle East:

    Breaking:

    Lawyer: George Zimmerman's wife filing for divorce

    http://seattletimes.com/html/n.....vorce.html

  • Rich||

    Looks like Z's marriage is Trayvon Martin.

  • Paul.||

    Walking between houses, talking on a cell phone and peering in windows with a bag of skittles?

  • Rich||

    Suffering an untimely death due to the actions of white Latino non-Black people?

  • PapayaSF||

    Syria is really a fascinating issue politically, because it doesn't follow standard lines.

    On the pro-war side you have the Nobel Peace Prize winner who ran against this sort of thing, most of the Democratic party establishment, Obama's drooling acolytes, but also GOP establishment figures, and the neocons.

    On the anti-war side you have Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Dennis Kucinich, Code Pink, various sincere lefty peacenik types, the Tea Party, the paleocons, the libertarians, most Republicans, and the vast majority of the public.

  • Paul.||

    Syria is really a fascinating issue politically, because it doesn't follow standard lines.

    Actually it does. The party in power wants to go to war... the party not in power doesn't...

  • PapayaSF||

    But many Republicans do want to go to war, and many Democrats don't.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Paleocons? I can't keep up with all these names. We need to go the German route and just mash all the policy positions of the various political factions into words that are 300 letters long.

  • ||

    Syria is really a fascinating issue politically, because it doesn't follow standard lines.

    I am just waiting for the hammer to drop and everyone (media, right and left politicians, collage professors etc) starts blaming libertarians for the whole mess.

  • pmains||

    How many people here have contacted the office of John Boehner (202-225-0600) or Eric Cantor (202-225-2815)? How about your local Congressman?

    This is a Tea Partyesque moment. Go to Town Halls. Make phone calls. Write letters. The American people are pissed off at the establishment. Now, let's get involved, stoke the fires and make sure these people know that their support for war in Syria will mean primary challenges.

  • Sevo||

    pmains| 9.5.13 @ 6:33PM |#
    ..."How about your local Congressman?"

    I'll send notes to Feinstein and Pelosi post-haste!

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Needs moar "shithead"!

  • pmains||

    Well, if you can't blast Pelosi off her perch with dynamite, find an easier target. This is a powerful issue.

  • Curtisls87||

    Already sent mine to Feinstein, Boxer (fat lot of good it will do with those two), and Eshoo - who is so far against military action.

  • ant1sthenes||

    I'm starting to understand why you're so hateful.

  • CE||

    I contacted my Congress-person, for what that's worth. I'm sure she'll do whatever Obama asks though, as a first-term Democrat.

  • Teddy Bear||

    Next time eduformers tell you that "better teachers" can make a difference, show them this:

    "Referring to the results for model 5 (based on achievement gains), we see that teachers who scored 2 or more standard deviations above the average boosted student gains by 0.068 standard deviations relative to the average teacher, and teachers who scored 2 or more standard deviations below the average reduced achievement gains by 0.062 standard deviations."

    And that's the good news. Another report found no effect.

    http://www.nber.org/papers/w12828.pdf?new_window=1

    http://www.rand.org/content/da.....RP1410.pdf

  • Cytotoxic||

    Hi Merican. Care to explain WTF any of that quoted text means? WTF is achievement gains and how did they 'model' it?

  • Teddy Bear||

    Read the link yourself. Then, if you still disagree, provide a source to suggest otherwise.

  • SugarFree||

    Or you can simply go fuck your sister in the ass again, you Nazi dipshit.

  • CE||

    Theory: Eliminating government funding would work better.

    Rationale: Involved parents matter more than skilled teachers. Parents get more involved when they have to spend their own money.

    Test: Shut down the government schools and sell all the buildings.

  • Acosmist||

    Parental involvement probably correlates with race too, breh.

  • Lyle||

    I wrote my Democrat congresswoman and told her to vote no.

  • LifeStrategies||

    There's a school of thought that suggests when a policitian is trying to dodge an issue, the best strategy is to create a common enemy outside the country.

    Is President Obama trying to dodge the vast - heinous - spying scandal by trying to finger President Bashar al-Assad, who is indeed a nasty piece of work, as needing an American strike against Syria? It wouldn't be the first time such tactics have been used.

    Just asking...

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