A.M. Links: Obama Approval Rating Among Youth Plummeting, Supreme Court Justices Don’t Really Get the Internet, Michael Hastings Death Ruled an Accident

  • anthony kennedy doesn't understand any part of this imagepoliticalmemesRevelations about the NSA’s domestic surveillance operations have helped fuel a 14-point-swing in President Obama’s approval rating among 18 to 29 year olds. 60 percent believe the disclosures served the public good.
  • Chuck Hagel and his Chinese counterpart announced a plan to improve military relations between the US and China.
  • An appeals court in New York upheld a decision that a Colorado judge could force Fox News reporter Jana Winter to reveal her source in a story about the notebook James Holmes sent his psychiatrist.
  • Elena Kagan admits her colleagues on the Supreme Court don’t understand much about e-mail and other internet technologies and still send paper memos to each other like they did in the 80s.
  • The LA coroner’s office has ruled the death of Michael Hastings in a car crash an accident. A toxicology report shows he had methamphetamine and marijuana in his system, although report also says neither were considered factors in the crash.
  • David Cameron asked  his Cabinet Secretary to convince The Guardian not to report Edward Snowden’s disclosures about US and British surveillance operations.
  • Japan has upgraded the severity level of a radioactive leak at the Fukushima nuclear plant from one to three. Water was first found leaking on Monday.
  • The Venezuelan government is trying to drum up tourism to the country; only 700,000 tourists visit per year.
  • Germany’s finance minister believes Greece will likely need another bailout.

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  • NSA Corey||

    Top of the Morning, Reason.

  • Gene||

    Fail, only partially on topic.

  • Enough About Palin||

    Oh I don't know. Top of the thread, it is morning and the sight is Reason. I say he hit it out of the park.

  • Gbob||

    On behalf of the hungover this morning, go die in a fire.

  • fish||

    WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH FOE??????

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I spent too much time typing my awesome comment this morning. Brevity is the soul of first.

  • some guy||

    I always assumed you typed your first post into a text document in advance and then copy-pasted it into the comment box after spamming F5 for 10 minutes (just to be sure).

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I wish. I have little to no idea which stories they're going to post for links. Although I had read the Obama polling thing earlier so the thought was kind of in my head.

    The key is getting here right at 9AM EDT, scanning the links and picking one and coming up with the least dumb comment you can think of for it. (If you're interested in that kind of thing.)

  • CE||

    No, the key is working for Reason so you can post your comment with the article, and occasionally letting someone else win so we don't catch on.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    See you even used italics...a vary simple tag. To be TRULY awesome you would use block quotes

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Block quotes are only for things I quote from different pages, not things from this page. Duh.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Revelations about the NSA’s domestic surveillance operations have helped fuel a 14-point-swing in President Obama’s approval rating among 18 to 29 year olds.

    The generation that post its entire day-to-day existence online doesn't like that Obama is breaching its digital privacy. Teleprompter says, "Then don't dress like a virtual slut!"

  • gaijin||

    approval rating among 18 to 29 year olds.

    Who hardly vote. And who represent 21% of all eligible voters. Question is whether NSA issues will be enough to get out the vote I think.

  • some guy||

    But this generation will grow into the next generation of frequently voting middle-agers. On the whole I think this is good news for privacy in the long run.

  • Hyperion||

    This is why I keep saying that Rand should be focusing more on the young people, like his dad did, instead of pandering to the SoCons.

    If Libertarians don't focus on recruiting the young people, then we'll get yet another generation full of progressives, which will be the end of the great Murikan experiment with liberty.

  • rac3rx||

    The SoCons have the big cash, and you can't mount a serious campaign without it.

  • Gorilla tactics||

    meh...I dunno about the young people, I think they like libertairanism for the weed-besides that they're progtards through and through. The way to stop it is to stop having the fed gov subsidize their college education. They will then be more discretionary with their college spending and actually take a degree that will land them a job (we need STEMs), instead of Liberal Arts BAs majoring in "The evil rich white male is out to get me" studies. It's the colleges that are fucking them up.

  • gaijin||

    good news for privacy in the long run.

    I agree. I just hope there is still some privacy left for the kids to defend in the long run.

  • A Secret Band of Robbers||

    Which is why when the Boomers started voting, the war on drugs ended.

  • robc||

    I was about to make a comment, but realized you were sarcastic.

    The meter kicked in just in time.

  • some guy||

    Of course not. But governments are slowly moving in the right direction on drugs as the Boomers start replacing their parents.

  • AlexInCT||

    Define long run. I do not share your optimism about time addressing this probllem. Once the tyrants have their boot on our neck, and man are they close to being there, said experiment in freedom, at least this time around, is over. Not sayign we couldn't have another revolution to win it back, but our masters are not going to give up power without a fight once they have us by the balls.

  • rac3rx||

    Speaking of boot on the neck, has anyone else seen this thing about forced home inspections to determine Obamacare eligibility?

    http://www.libertynews.com/201.....obamacare/

    This was the first I had heard of anything like this.

  • mr simple||

    Chuck Hagel and his Chinese counterpart announced a plan to improve military relations between the US and China.

    Finally the beginnings of The Alliance.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Can the Unification War with the Independents be far behind?

  • Live Free or Diet||

    Hey, you gonna drink t'da 'Lliance wid me?

  • ||

    We have to leave Earth after it is used up first.

    The Unification War is way off and doesn't even happen at this whirl.

  • DJF||

    While at the same time the Pentagon is spending billions "pivoting to the Pacific" and also getting friendly with the Vietnamese military so we can get involved in a Communist vs Communist War in South East Asia.

    Its almost as if they want to get involved in a war, any war.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    As long as they don't trifle with any Sicilians when death is on the line.

  • gaijin||

    +1 Dizzying intellect :)

  • Andrew S.||

    So what you're saying is that we should all start developing an immunity to iocane powder, just in case?

  • CE||

    You haven't already?

  • Pro Libertate||

    Well, it is true that our relations with Vietnam did, after a time, improve after the war. So maybe they're agreeing on a war. Just a small, conventional one, to improve our relationship and to stimulate the global economy.

  • T||

    Broken windows!

    More seriously, if this means they'll lift the arms restrictions we have against China and I can start buying Norincos again, I'll be happy.

    Plus, I'm very curious about China's 5.8mm round and maybe we'll get some of that in here finally.

  • db||

    You know, the last time a burgeoning fascist state made an alliance with a communist state, it didn't really work out all that well for the fascists.

  • ||

    Please to be rephrasing your comment in the form of "you know who else..."

  • Gorilla tactics||

    or the Polish

  • Gorilla tactics||

    or the Polish

  • Gorilla tactics||

    or the Polish

  • Rasilio||

    More like the CoDominium, just with China rather than Russia.

    Now we just need a Langston Drive and Langston Field

  • Azathoth!!||

    Alderson Drive?

  • Rasilio||

    Lol yeah that was it, it's been a while since I read any of Pournelle's Co-Dominium series

  • Gorilla tactics||

    Tom Friedman just blew a load

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Germany’s finance minister believes Greece will likely need another bailout.

    The Krauts have no interest in teaching a man to fish?

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    I am fighting the urge to make an über/untermenschen comment...

  • ||

    I think the Greeks are half menschen like the Slavs. Of course they did get conquered by the Moors...

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Moors - Ottomans;
    At this point.what difference does it make?

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    ...amongst others.

  • Gorilla tactics||

    "I am fighting the urge to make an über/untermenschen comment..."

    that's just your pussy ass slave morality pushing you around.

  • some guy||

    Just because Greece needs another bailout doesn't mean the German people will be willing to give it one. They have elections in Germany nowadays and the populace is getting fed up with constantly keeping the rest of Europe afloat.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Do they feel. . .stabbed in the back?

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    Damnit, now I have to make an über/untermenschen comment...

  • Goldwin Smith||

    Do the SDP, Greens and Left oppose bailouts?

  • sarcasmic||

    Wild thing! Bikini babe Paris Hilton displays her trim figure in a zebra print two-piece as she continues to lap up the good life in Ibiza


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....Ibiza.html
    Now if she wasn't a diseased hood rat...

  • Slammer||

    The soul sucking vapidity I see in her eyes is the biggest turn-on.

  • Ted S.||

    Good, because the rest of her body is probably germ-riddled.

  • Live Free or Diet||

    Yeah, sorry, all I see is skinny and makeup.

  • carol||

    Both eyes or just the one that looks straight ahead?

  • Live Free or Diet||

    Oh, nice. I vote "both."

  • Dweebston||

    The way her feet seem to end in hooves in that first shot really brings out the zebra print.

  • Bobarian||

    What do you mean 'seem to'?

  • ||

    She's well into her 30's now, which makes her the fact that she still living the same vapid existence she did 10 years ago laughably pitiful. And interestingly, one never sees the other sister in the press. Makes me wonder if she has a real life and some semblance of a job.

  • fish||

    The other sister is kept alive and in a vegetative state to provide spare parts for Paris,

  • The DerpRider||

    Sorry, but she looks smokin hot in that first pic.

  • sarcasmic||

    Your dick would feel smokin hot after sticking it into her, right before it fell off.

  • Live Free or Diet||

    It actually boils the water out of the toilet when you go to piss.

  • gaijin||

    send paper memos to each other like they did in the 80s.

    The 1780's?

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    hemp memos

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    No, just the 80s -- so, parchment or papyrus.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "Here, Dino, deliver these stone tablets to my colleagues."

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    +1 bronto rib

  • fish||

    -1 feet for brakes.

  • Hyperion||

    Honestly, if someone sent you a paper memo at work, you would have to think that they are either super paranoid or a dinosaur.

    the SCOTUS clearly are not paranoid as they are far above the laws that apply to the rest of us. So, they are dinosaurs. And that's who we have ruling on the constitutionality of our laws, dinosaurs +1 fat and fugly progresso-dyke. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, no?

    I bet that if Jefferson were resurrected right now through some miracle of science he would figure out the email in no time at all, and then freak out once he's realized what the proglodytes have done to our constitution and bill of rights.

  • Pro Libertate||

    To be sure, judges aren't experts or even conversant in a whole host of matters, whether they're at the Supreme Court or hearing local matters.

  • Certified Public Asskicker||

    In my office I work with a bunch of older CPAs.

    When they receive a client response to a question through email, they fucking print it and leave it on my chair, even after I have explained the FWD button saves time and paper.

  • Derpetologist||

    We must remember that while Derp culture may seem strange to us, it is valid in its own way.

    The printed-out email is one of the most sacred totems for Derps.

  • Doctor Whom||

    If you don't print the email, how will your underlings know what to type back in? Yes, I do know people who work that way.

  • CampingInYourPark||

    Russia pissed about Ukraine's possible impending association with the UE

    On 14 August, the Federation of Employers of Ukraine (FEU) announced that as of midnight on that date, the Customs Service of the Russian Federation had blocked all Ukrainian exports to Russia. The FEU, whose president is the Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash, has asked Prime Minister Mykola Azarov for help in resolving the problem.

    http://www.osw.waw.pl/en/notat.....-blackmail

  • some guy||

    This was bound to happen. The Ukrainians aren't stupid and the Russians are vindictive.

  • Bobarian||

    "The Ukrainians aren't stupid"

    I challenge your thesis, as proof I offer "Ukraine's possible impending association with the [EU]"

  • some guy||

    I'm only saying that associating with the EU might be better for the Ukraine than associating with Russia. Better yet would be telling both sides to fuck off, but I never claimed Ukrainians were smart.

  • sarcasmic||

    'Mormon missionaries' beat and rob victim at gunpoint after knocking on his door for a chat about religion


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....point.html
    See? This is why no one voted for Romney! Those Mormons are dangerous!

  • John||

    That is terrible. But there is something oddly awesome about it too. Mormons are going gangster.

  • Hyperion||

    Well, since we have the Amish Mafia, they just cued off of that.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Is that totally fake or just almost totally fake?

  • William of Purple||

    fake fake

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's what I thought when I saw the Michael-Bayesque promo of an Amish guy walking away from an exploding buggy.

  • Jon Lester||

    You've seen "Orgazmo," haven't you?

  • John||

    No.

  • mr simple||

    Hey, I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothin', but I think unicorns are kick ass!

  • ||

    mr simple, use your hamster style!

  • Rhywun||

    I knew I was always right to cross to the other side of the street when I see those creepazoids coming.

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    Was the victim Indian Native American?

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    They were apparently two non-Mormons dressed in Mormon garb.

    One of them is black, which doesn't automatically preclude his being Mormon, but would make it less likely.

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's false. There was a black Mormon guy on House

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    I acknowledged that there were black Mormons.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Shows what you know, because the guy on House was just an actor pretending to be Mormon!

  • wareagle||

    The LA coroner’s office has ruled the death of Michael Hastings in a car crash an accident.

    because cars burst into flames in accidents all the time in real life, just like in cop shows and movies.

  • some guy||

    His family believed that he had started using drugs again. And cars do rarely burst into flames during or after high speed collisions. It sounds like he went paranoid (perhaps with good reason) and did something stupid.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "paranoid"

    You mean he thought people were out to get him?

  • Bam!||

    When the engine separates from the fuel line, dumping a massive amount of gasoline, a fire is likely.

  • Mike M.||

    This coroner obviously didn't want to end up like Michael Cormier, and who the hell can really blame him.

  • William of Purple||

    Hermann Goering's cigars auctioned for £1,300

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    I'm slow this morning...can anyone think of a joke?

  • robc||

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    So, to answer your question: apparently no.

  • some guy||

    Would you prefet something involving ovens, or something involving Bill Clinton?

  • AlexInCT||

    Bill Clinton bought them as a gift for his next intern?

  • edcoast||

    The past, the present, and future walked into a bar. It was tense.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    You know who else made clouds of noxious smoke during the Third Reich?

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    That's actually pretty good, in a sick way.

  • Derpetologist||

    The 3rd Reich: Close, But No Cigar.

  • Bo Cara Esq.||

    -Judge Rules Defamation Suit Filed by Michael Mann Against Mark Steyn Can Proceed

    Jonathan Adler criticizes the decision at Volokh Conspiracy:

    http://www.volokh.com/2013/08/.....qus_thread

  • Brett L||

    This is awesome! Now Steyn has a right to basically all of Mann's professional and personal correspondance regarding climate change on discovery.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Which will have conveniently disappeared by now.

  • AlexInCT||

    ^^^^ THIS.

    And they will blame Steyn for daring to point out that these watermelons constantly seem to lose or misplace anything and everything that when inspected closely would show that the AGW movement is nothing but a collectivist cult and that they practice very little real science or scientific review.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's not easy to disappear digital records, but the forensics for recovering them (and you've got to know where to look in the first place) ain't cheap.

  • AlexInCT||

    They are counting on that...

  • db||

    Yeah, if Penn State has learned anything about email in the last couple of years, it has something to do with robust backups.

  • Marshall Gill||

    The Canadian Human Rights commission recently went after Steyn. It didn't end well for them.

    Michael Mann picked the wrong person to fuck with.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    A toxicology report shows he had methamphetamine and marijuana in his system, although report also says neither were considered factors in the crash.

    I don't think we'll be focusing on anything after the comma in that sentence.

  • Hyperion||

    They aren't even buying the drug BS over at FluffPo.

    If you can't convince the FluffPostians of some bullshit, you aren't convincing anyone of it.

    CIA: 'Say he was on drugs, end of investigation, is that clear?'

  • VG Zaytsev||

    And unfortunately his body was accidentally cremated so we can't double check whether or not their sample was contaminated.

  • sarcasmic||

    Now THAT'S an Angry Bird! Karate cranes get kung fu fighting in high-powered kick-boxing match


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....match.html
    Daniel-san!

  • Ted S.||

    Were those cranes fast as lightning? I guess that would be a little bit frightening.

  • ||

    When they were done they all wang chunged that night.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "Human Style!"

  • NeonCat||

    Which one? Actually fighting or complaining online about how unfair the other birds are and how oppressed they feel by the Aviarchy?

  • Bobarian||

    The fuckin swans are always keeping the black bird down...

  • Matrix||

    Double Stuf Oreo isn't!
    Nabisco... you lied to us! I can't believe a corporation would ever lie to us! :'(

  • mr simple||

    When do we march on their headquarters?

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    Capitalism failed!

  • ||

    And now all that good will they racked up with the gay Oreo is right out the window.

    The whiz kids at marketing need to come up with some other pandering scheme to get Nabisco through this.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Goddammit. And I was all set to blame childhood obesity on those.

  • Pro Libertate||

    We need a new federal agency to certify filling claims.

  • NeonCat||

    I always liked Hydrox better. Hydrox! America's original sandwich creme cookie!

  • Pro Libertate||

    One of the big shocks in life for me was learning that Oreos were the knock-off, not Hydrox.

  • NeonCat||

    "We're through the milk glass here, people."

  • ||

    Then they were bought by Sunshine and they changed the recipe to be more like Oreos. And then Sunshine discontinued them.

  • Cdr Lytton||

    Sub Keebler for Sunshine.

  • Enough About Palin||

    "Double Stuf Oreos"

    Define Stuf. There's Nabisco's loophole.

  • Matrix||

    New Mothers shouldn't be expected to do anything, and there should be people waiting on them hand and foot for a couple of weeks
    'Cause "everyone else" lets them lay around doing nothing. So US should too.
    Oh, and the comments are not any better. But, of course they are Jezzies.

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    Not that I need to persuade anyone here of this, but...

    Wage gap, anyone?

  • ||

    Everywhere but here sounds like a dream in this respect: In China, Brenhouse writes, you might rest for 30 days, and be fed soup that helps with lactation. In Mexico, you get 40 days of chill.

    Oh right, because I'm sure the majority of women in Mexico and China are up to their tits in the rat race like they are here.

    Their women get the days off and bed rest because they are living in an overall culture towards women that the Jezzies normally abhore when they're not ignoring it for the expediency of their bullshit arguments.

  • Azathoth!!||

    Maternity leave where I work is 6-8 weeks.

    China gets roughly 2-4 weeks less than that and Mexicgets 1-3 weeks less.

    Now I know that isn't all over, but its like this at many other businesses.

    So what the hell?

    Is it because the State pays for it in those countries?

  • ||

    And yet none of it makes her think, like, "Wow, pregnancy and recovery from it are really shitty, maybe I should just advocate against doing it instead of advocating for other people to be forced to help me do some bullshit that only I want to do."

  • ||

    Aren't women who have a baby while working typically Jezebel's enemy? Why are they trying to help them now?

  • ||

    They're always trying to help them with maternity leave and paternity leave and free childcare and shit like that. It's not like Jezebel is against reproducing. They want you to "have it all"...by stealing from others.

  • Certified Public Asskicker||

    to get up, get moving, lose the weight, get the hell out of bed and back up on a dick.

    My wife tore...so yeah, I was not rushing her back to the dick. A broken stitch would have traumatized me for life.

  • fish||

    My wife tore...so yeah, I was not rushing her back to the dick. A broken stitch would have traumatized me for life.

    Well my friend...you want trauma? Watch an Air Force OB/GYN go after your wife with what appeared to be surgical hedge trimmers and that will scar you for life! Looked like Freddy Kreuger was performing the episiotomy.

  • Certified Public Asskicker||

    For some reason, after I survived the birth I was feeling like I could look at anything. So, I peeked at the stitching process. That alone left me green and not looking forward to getting any for awhile.

  • ||

    This is why I always thought it best to leave the menfolk in the waiting room with the cigars. But then again, I ain't never birthed no babies. Thank zod.

  • John||

    I agree. Why would a woman want her husband to see all of that?

  • ||

    I wouldn't. Unlike the Jezzies, I want my partners to look at my vag as a sex object and not a baby vending machine.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    Well I was in the room. And when the time came I was laser focused on examining the construction of the drop ceiling. They were using standard 2x2 mineral fiber model with the random perforation. The layout was we done to match the external corners of the room, so someone was measuring properly.

  • Atanarjuat||

    I should have done as Cliche Bandit did. I stared at the baby's head straining to come out until he did the episiotomy. At which point I had to stumble to the bathroom to find some place to puke.

  • fish||

    How does pregnancy impact any of the female impersonators at Jezebel?

  • sarcasmic||

    'I was freaked out by what I saw': Obese photographer reveals how self-portrait project inspired her to lose 110 pounds


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....10lbs.html
    John has a sad.

  • sarcasmic||

    Is fashion FINALLY getting realistic-looking models? Meet the beauties signed to the first agency that doesn't distinguish between sizes


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....sizes.html
    John will be in his bunk.

  • Ted S.||

    Unless everybody's wearing muumuus, caftans, or other similar garments, they have to distinguish between sizes if they want the clothes to fit.

  • WTF||

    I guess the epidemic of fat aweeping the West means they have to market to the fatties as if they were normal. Which I guess they now kind of are.

  • Rasilio||

    They always were, Marylin Monroe was something like a size 12 which in todays fashion world would have made her a plus sized model

  • WTF||

    Nope. Marilyn Monroe would have been a 6/8 in today's sizes.

    She wasn't even close to fat or even overweight. The fatties just like to convince themselves she was.

  • mr simple||

    Damn it, I thought I just refreshed.

  • mr simple||

    No she was not. That myth has been thoroughly debunked, as an added bonus by Virginia Postrel.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Why do fat people need to have make sure everybody thinks it is sexy and okay to be fat? It, for the most part, is not sexy, and usually is not healthy at all. But being fat is one of the unattractive physical things about your body you can change with some hard work. I really have little sympathy for people who complain about being viewed as fat and unsexy but won't muster up the self control to stop eating cheeseburgers and start exercising.

  • ||

    These publications just as easily give print space to talk about large women as if they share equal beauty with the rare specimens of Victoria's Secret, but then have no problem haranguing them later for violating the social contract by being a drain on the healthcare system.

  • John||

    I understand the concerns about promoting women who starve themselves. But how about using fit people? Anyone who has the will can get into shape. There is nothing unrealistic or unhealthy about that.

  • Rasilio||

    In Shape != size 4 forget even 6, 8, or 10.

    People come in all different shapes and sizes and for some even a size 16 would be "in shape", and by that I mean the most perfectly healthy weight and body shape for them. True, past a size 16 it is hard to argue that losing a few pounds would be a good idea and for some women even a size 10 is too large but then Fashion Magazines basically don't show anything above a size 6.

  • ||

    Read the article. Everyone signed by this agency will be smaller than the size of a plus-size model.

  • John||

    Then what are they? Size 8?

  • ||

    Straight-size models are 0 or 2, so I assume anything bigger than that. It's hard to tell since it's the Mail, and they inconsistently move between UK and US sizing conventions.

  • John||

    They are not even realistic. They are moderately fat women who have been photoshopped. The problem with fat is that it never looks like that. Hell even unnaturally thin women have some cellulite. So these size 16s have a lot that have touched up.

  • Matrix||

    Media Matters: Fox News still denying role of SYG in Zimmerman Acquittal
    Because someone being held down and having his head bashed in is capable of retreating...

  • John||

    Fox still denying role in OJ acquittal and Rosenberg convictions. Media Mutters is so pathetic.

  • wareagle||

    maybe Fox' conclusion is based on the defense's decision to NOT use SYG. But it's Media Matters where malicious truths are easily ignored.

  • Mike M.||

    Mike M: NBC still denying role in intentionally editing 911 phone call to falsely portray Zimmerman as racist.

  • Brett L||

    Because no lawyer on either side of the case cited it?

  • Pro Libertate||

    So did the court, most lawyers, etc., etc., etc.

    The outrage on this one isn't working. Naturally, they'll keep banging the drum.

  • ||

    I miss the days when Joe was here to tell us Media Matters was non-partisan.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    David Cameron asked his Cabinet Secretary to convince the Guardian not to report Edward Snowden’s disclosures about US and British surveillance operations.

    More smashy smashy.

  • mr simple||

    It woulds bes a shame if somethings weres to, uh, happen to this heres establishment. Accidents happens, you knows.
    -His "Cabinet Secretary."

  • some guy||

    "Go ahead. We have copies in at least two other countries."

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    No, no, it would be more like:

    "My good man, it appears you have a top-hole newspaper; it would be a bit of a sticky wicket if anything unfortunate should happen to it. For instance, do you have insurance against, hypothetically, firebombing?"

  • ||

    Are you tired of having to attach anxiety to your vaginas? These lasses are (SFW)

    http://www.news.com.au/nationa.....z2cbmYFXKe

  • gaijin||

    how does one attach anxiety to a lady part?

  • fish||

    Staples.

  • SugarFree||

    Is this why so many women are vag-chugging valium?

  • Ted S.||

    Australia's equivalent of frat boys ought to repond with a paper featuing a whole bunch of penises, and the line "Don't you dare tell me my body offends you."

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    dick

  • WTF||

    That's different, because of teh Patriarchy!

  • mr simple||

    to make a statement about how vaginas have become "artificially sexualised ... or stigmatised"

    This statement is hilarious on so many levels. They're upset that a sexual organ has been sexualized, referencing the stigmata while talking about the vagina and have no idea how to use ellipses points, just for starters.

  • Bobarian||

    "The magazines were later recalled after it was discovered the bars were see through."

    NICE!

  • Enough About Palin||

    Reminds me of a fuckbook I picked up at a gas station about 30 years ago. Every page had close-ups of four different vaginas. Very artistic.

  • CampingInYourPark||

    "Syria Conflict: 1,300 Killed In 'Gas Attack'"

    More than 1,300 people have been killed in a chemical weapons attack near Damascus, according to the Syrian opposition.

    Activists claim "toxic gas" was used by President Bashar al Assad's forces during a bombardment of rebel-held areas outside the Syrian capital.

    The government says the claims are "totally false" and the international news organisations reporting them are "implicated in the shedding of Syrian blood and support terrorism".

    http://news.sky.com/story/1131.....gas-attack

  • some guy||

    Why Science and Politics Don't Mix

    A decent article on the whole, but then there's this:
    The conflicting demands of individual liberty, family loyalty and social solidarity (to name just three of many such principles) can’t be resolved by means of facts.

    There need be no conflict between individual liberty and anything else. If we maximize individual liberty across society then the rest will balance itself out as each individual is free to pursue whichever demands he or she values most.

  • Hyperion||

    Intolerance isn’t conducive to human flourishing

    This is why the rule of the proglodytes needs to go down in history as just a really bad era that thankfully ended before total destruction.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Elena Kagan admits her colleagues on the Supreme Court don’t understand much about e-mail and other internet technologies and still send paper memos to each other like they did in the 80s.

    So they were previously briefed on the NSA domestic spy programs?

  • some guy||

    I was thinking the same thing. Maybe our grandparents are more tech-savvy than we think...

  • Pro Libertate||

    Ahhhhh.

  • Dr. Frankenstein||

    They'll be safe when the Cylons attack.

  • Lord Humungus||

    The 17 Most Canadian Things About Ted Cruz


    1. Cruz’s first name is REALLY Rafael Edward, which sounds very Canadian to us.

    2. When Cruz was sworn in as a senator, his wife Heidi and two daughters wore lovely red dresses.
    Guess who else wears red for special ceremonies?

    etc etc

    tongue in cheek (of course)

  • John||

    I think him being Canadian helps him. Americans look at Canadians as our goofy little brother. When the Left tries to paint him as some nut right winger, people just won't believe it. He is a Canadian. He can't be like us.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    And his name is "Cruz," which means "cross," and he was born in Calgary, where Jesus died.

  • ||

    +1

  • John||

    How can he lose? He might get elected king with that kind of pedigree.

  • Hyperion||

    I was hoping that the last King of Murika is retiring in a 3 years.

  • John||

    He plans to move up to be King of the World.

  • Hyperion||

    That's what I've been saying, but some folk here don't think the UN will accept him as King.

  • Bobarian||

    You say that like the UN gets a say in anything.

  • WTF||

    How many divisions does the UN have?

  • William of Purple||

    You know who else renounced his Canadian citizenship?

  • ||

    Greg Rusedski?

  • Hyperion||

    Dudley Klondike?

  • Atanarjuat||

    Beloved HnR commenter Dagny T?

  • db||

    Certainly not Rausdauer.

  • paranoid android||

    To the Rausdauer-mobile!

  • ||

    Shatner?

  • Bo Cara Esq.||

    -SoCon Journal: Ariel Castro's Porn Addiction

    -Ariel Castro belongs in prison. Last week, he was sentenced to serve more than one thousand years. But despite the depths of his depravity, when Castro stood shackled in a Cleveland courtroom, he confessed a common American problem. “I believe I am addicted to porn,” he said, “to the point where I am impulsive, and I just don’t realize that what I am doing is wrong.”

    Pastors everywhere have heard those words before. Probably many times. Pornographic addiction is powerful, destructive, and all too typical. Ariel Castro’s addiction is no excuse for his actions, but it points to a deep and sobering reality: Free, anonymous, and ubiquitous access to pornography is quietly transforming American men and American culture.

    -Pornography destroys families. It destroys the soul. Pornography robs us of the freedom to have subjective relationships—in a mind addicted to pornography, personal subjectivity is replaced by a dehumanizing, objectifying, abusive kind of relationality.

    http://www.firstthings.com/ont.....nt=1143790

  • gaijin||

    and I just don’t realize that what I am doing is wrong.

    says every defendant trying to ask for leniency after being caught red handed.

  • John||

    Yeah. He would have totally been a normal guy had he not ever found porn. It sounds nice and all that people look at porn and some of them get weirder and weirder until they finally act out on it. Certainly, there are more than a few deviants in prison who claim as much. But there has never been a single bit of science showing it to be true. And if it were true, there certainly would be some kind of rise in this kind of thing since porn became widely available in the 1970s. Yet, there hasn't been. There continues to be what there always has been, a small population of deviants who do horrible things. The fact that they now have porn to use as an excuse for being deviants, doesn't mean the porn is responsible.

  • sarcasmic||

    Verily! Sir John of the Hairy Palm!

  • John||

    I actually don't like porn. Too many dicks. Naked women are nice. But porn doesn't work for me. I am the only straight guy in the world that looks at it that way. But it is true.

  • sarcasmic||

    Too many dicks.

    Afraid to arouse those latent homosexual tendencies?

  • John||

    No. They just don't work for me. Don't make me uncomfortable. Just are not attractive to look at. Ruin the whole thing. Good for those for whom dicks work. They probably live happier lives for it. But I am not one of them.

  • sarcasmic||

    Long time ago when I was knocking out some core classes at a community college, the teacher of some writing class, a graduate student of womyns studies, played a movie called Dicks. Apparently it was a long slide show of penises from around the world. I don't know because I skipped that day. I'm not very sad about it either. Other writing assignments included reviewing Thelma and Louise as well as the political impact of Madonna. Needless to say it was a waste of time.

  • John||

    And to think kids are paying for that crap. And taxpayers are paying as well. Pathetic.

  • Hyperion||

    Too many dicks.

    Stop clicking on the tranny links, John.

    Just click the BBW link, that's what you're lookin fer!

  • John||

    It is always some just okay chick giving head. I don't get how guys get off on that so much. You just see the chick's face and the dick. To each their own. Like I said, i would probably be happier if it worked for me.

  • Enough About Palin||

    You have written about this before and I have given it ample consideration. I like to watch chicks give head because it's an opportunity to watch a female engage in sexual activity. It's all about the girl and what she's thinking/feeling/experiencing.

    Executive summary: I focus on the chick.

  • Enough About Palin||

    I would add that that is also my mindset when with a woman as well. It's not about me, which is why I just love foreplay.

  • alittlesense||

    "relationality"? Please. Speak. Eeengleesh. (said very slowly)

  • Hyperion||

    That's 'ing' - 'glase', with a long A.

  • Hyperion||

    See this is a huge problem. Every guy I have ever known that confessed to looking at the evil pr0n had several young girls locked up in their dungeon.

    So let's just arrest and jail everyone that's ever looked at pr0n. It's for the children!

  • Bobarian||

    It's not a dungeon, it's my 'Lounge of Love'!

  • VG Zaytsev||

    when Castro stood shackled in a Cleveland courtroom, he confessed a common American problem

    IOW he's a conniving asshole that knows what buttons to push, in this case trolling the proggies and so-cons.

  • Gene||

    The LA coroner’s office has ruled the death of Michael Hastings in a car crash an accident. A toxicology report shows he had methamphetamine and marijuana in his system, although report also says neither were considered factors in the crash.

    Then why the fuck would you divulge it.
    Wait I know why.Say it with me people.
    FYTW

  • wareagle||

    it's said to distract you from wondering why cars almost never explode in crashes but this one did.

  • Atanarjuat||

    I don't have a problem with them divulging it. It is a high-profile case and keeping secrets only encourage the conspiracy theorizing. Information wants to be free.

    It's almost unbelievable that someone like him would be using meth, though. Everyone I know who uses it is from much farther down on the socioeconomic ladder and are the "frequently incarcerated" type. Maybe he took ecstasy which had some meth in it.

  • ||

    The text I read yesterday also said "traces of amphetamine," which could be from meth, but didn't explicitly rule that they couldn't have been from adderall or dexedrine or something like that. So I was a bit curious along those lines.

  • Hyperion||

    Maybe it wasn't actually meth, but just something that had ephedrine in it. Which could have been sinus pills, or just some quasi legal stimulant. Who knows. But I am like you in being skeptical that it was street meth. I don't trust any of this story, something is very wrong here, and I'm not a conspiracy theory sort of person. Unless you ask Cyto-tulpical.

  • ||

  • ||

    It's a shame that John Lennon is so close to the front of the line when people discuss cloning people.

  • John||

    It would be an interesting experiment in nature versus nurture. Would you also clone McCartney so he has a collaborator?

    My guess is a cloned John Lennon would be a naturally talented musician but would never be as successful or creative as the original model. The original model benefited from being at just the right place at the right time.

  • Ted S.||

    How dare you suggest McCartney has talent!

    [/sarcasm]

  • Pro Libertate||

    I say clone him and McCartney, but raise them in precisely controlled conditions duplicating the way they were raised. Only reverse those conditions.

  • Hyperion||

    Everyone in the know, knows that McCartney is the anti-Christ, yet to be revealed.

    If you clone Lennon, then he could become the False Prophet who reveals the evil one to the world.

    Don't.do.this.

    You've all been warned!

  • John||

    Paul is like Frofo. He just can't catch a break. He didn't die young so he isn't the legend Lennon is. He was never the third wheel so he never gets the sympathy and contrary status Harrison gets. Since Lennon and Harrison are dead, he can't defend his own legacy without looking like he is putting down the dead.

    The fact is that when the Beatles hit their prime from 65 to 67, Lennon was really whacked out on drugs and McCartney was running things. That was one of the reasons they started to fight in 68. Lennon cut down his drug use and started to assert himself again and Paul had gotten very used to being in charge.

  • T||

    I'm going with Paul's solo work has been occasional moments of near genius surrounded by an ocean of crap. If he had released more quality and less crap, his stock might be up a bit more.

  • John||

    Both John and Paul needed each other. They were the only ones who had the standing to tell the other one when something they wrote was crap. Who the hell is going to tell Paul McCartney his latest song idea is crap? No one but Lennon had that kind of standing. So without each other they ended up indulging in their own worst excesses. Lennon ended up doing crap that didn't have a good pop hook and McCartney went the other way and ended up doing commercial jingles. They needed each other as song doctors to each other. If you read the accounts of how the Beatles songs were actually written, time and time again, one of them would write a song and see it improved by the other one with a tweak here or there. Without that, their work suffered.

    This happens to a lot of song writers. Once you hit it big, there is no one to tell you no anymore. Look at Sting. Without the other members of The Police to tell him no, he ended up doing complete crap. Sadly few people are self aware enough to realize this.

  • Pro Libertate||

    There were loads of examples of the need for such partnerships during the classic rock era.

  • Raven Nation||

    I remember this sci-fi story I read decades ago where scientists cloned some great composer from the past. He wrote & conducted a symphony that everyone raved over and so congratulated the scientist who lead the project.

    But the story closed with the thoughts of the composer who was thinking that the cloners had failed b/c, although the music was technically beautiful, it didn't have the soul & beauty he remembered from his previous life.

  • Ted S.||

    If only a cloned John Lennon would say how awful Yoko Ono is.

  • ||

    In the middle of death....
    In the middle of death I call your name...
    OH YOOOOOKO

    (No seriously f you Double Fantasy is the most romantic thing evar)

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Steven Spielberg already did this movie.

    "By God, sir, you've made the Lennon clone gigantic! And extraordinarily hungry. We must cage him before he goes on a rampage..."

    The sound of Lennon 2.0's guitar makes the water in the cup shake. Then he charges into the scene and starts eating people...

    Alternate joke: "You moron, I said clone Lennon, not Lenin!"

    "But his corpse was just lying around, with plenty of DNA to harvest..."

  • Drake||

    Homeowner blasts escaped convict.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013.....west-iowa/

  • kinnath||

    Another happy ending in Iowa.

  • Ted S.||

    Don't happy endings in Iowa normally involve cows?

  • kinnath||

    pigs, corn cobs, ditch weed, etc.

  • Bobarian||

    A nice watermelon, warmed in the sun...

    Ah summer!

  • tarran||

    That is one intense story:

    The Iowa Public Safety Department said the deputy was shot in the chest and arm as he got out of his vehicle to talk to the man. Wyckoff sought cover nearby and the gunman jumped into the deputy's vehicle and took off.
    Another deputy soon arrived, the department said. He picked up Wyckoff and the two chased the stolen patrol vehicle. The chase wound through rural Taylor County for about 40 minutes, punctuated by exchanges of gunshots.
  • Lord Humungus||

    Why Obama Is Looking More and More Like Jimmy Carter

    Recent history suggests Obama will also pay a price for continued dysfunction. The president has muddled through August with his approval ratings hitting 45 percent in what has become a standard summer slump, according to the Gallup Organization.

    His ratings perked up last year after he beat GOP challenger Mitt Romney to win a second term in the Oval Office. But when the country last confronted a similar set of budgetary problems in 2011, his ratings failed to improve much as the year closed out.
  • Bo Cara Esq.||

    -Why Obama Is Looking More and More Like Jimmy Carter

    Is he getting those treatments like Michael Jackson did?

  • Bobarian||

    Does he lust in his heart?

  • gaijin||

    Gallup has PResident Zero approval at plus 1 over disapproval (47-46 approve). Which is out of line with every other major poll posted at RCP.

  • John||

    His decline among the youth is the most surprising. Of course it has been five years since he was first elected. So a lot of the "youth" who were so big on him back then are not youth anymore. And a lot of the ones who are were 12 or 13 and probably not paying attention and feel no loyalty towards him. He wasn't their piece of history.

  • wareagle||

    again, the point is missed. Normal thinking focuses on the notion of bad policy or decision-making blunders, maybe even bad advice. But this administration is not like its predecessors, and the issue is not one of incompetence but, rather, malevolence.

    The things most of us see as bugs - stagnant employment, food stamps, foreign clusters - this bunch sees as features. What the fuck did people think fundamental transformation meant?

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    To answer your question in one word, "Europe."

    They love Europe, so they are getting it, good and hard.

  • AlexInCT||

    Well put, sir. Carter's malaise was a side effect of ineffective and inefficient people, but they believed they meant well. What's happening now is by design. The plan has been to fuck up things so bad that nothing short of a complete government takeover of everything stands any chance. The fundamental change is predicated on the belief that desperate people will accept what they would otherwise never, ever do. Never let a crisis go untapped.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I see him more as some sort of Nixon-Carter hybrid. You know, like Two-Face.

  • Hyperion||

    Jimmah is a saint compared to Obama.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Japan has upgraded the severity level of a radioactive leak at the Fukushima nuclear plant from one to three.

    The alert has changed from Mothra to Rodan.

  • SugarFree||

    +2 tiny singing women

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I'm trying to figure out the exact rate of the leak, but from what I can tell it is at a rate of 1 olympic swimming pool a week into the pacific ocean. The water is apparently pretty radioactive (100mSv/h) but a swimming pool a week into the pacific ocean is, relatively, nothing.

  • T||

    Well, in a larger sense, yes, but the immediate area of the leak might get a bit weird.

    Although I seem to recall reading years ago that marine ecosystems recover from radiation much better than terrestrial ones.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    As soon as it leaks into the ocean, it becomes so diluted that the rad level is a non-issue. The immediate area is probably mainly dirt or organisms that are not nearly as sensitive to radiation.

    It definitely needs to be stopped, but it is not something anybody should be frightened about.

  • Bardas Phocas||

  • Atanarjuat||

    That's a snappy onion belt she's holding. That was the style when I was a young'un.

  • fish||

    +1 Abe Simpson

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    "Onions are a key ingredient of most Indian dishes and are regarded as a basic right throughout the country."

    Life, Liberty, Property and...Onions?

  • Nephilium||

    Truth, Justice, Freedom, Reasonably Priced Love, and a Hard-Boiled Egg!

  • Generic Stranger||

    An onion in every pot and a sacred cow in every field!

  • Bo Cara Esq.||

    -Federal Judges Decry Cuts in Federal Public Defender System

    -due to the combination of general budget austerity and sequestration, the federal public defender system—a model of effective indigent defense for the past 40 years—is being decimated.

    http://www.volokh.com/2013/08/.....er-system/

  • CampingInYourPark||

    -a model of effective indigent defense for the past 40 years-

    Paul Cassell and Nancy Gertner obviously never had the privilege of the need for a public defender

  • Ted S.||

    The Public Defender system ought to be used as a model for single-payer legal care.

  • Pro Libertate||

    They should just make all new lawyers serve as PDs out of law school. Like how medical students are enslaved after graduation. Doubt the quality would drop off that much.

  • Don Mynack||

    The Federal Public Defender system did not exist until 1971, and our prison population was an order of magnitude smaller. Sounds like they are doing a great job of providing constitutional cover for the drug war.

  • Don Mynack||

    Also, nice rates they get over there: $178/hour.

    http://www.txs.uscourts.gov/at...../rates.htm

  • Lord Humungus||

    As her ruling showed, Shira Scheindlin is patently ignorant about the realities of policing.

    Scheindlin’s patent ignorance of policing informs her reading of the complex statistical issues in Floyd, including her rejection of a criminal-suspect benchmark to evaluate the alleged racial bias in stops. (The plaintiffs, affirmed by Scheindlin, start with population as the benchmark against which stops should be measured; the city argues that crime rates are the relevant comparison. If a precinct is 40 percent white and Asian, for example, Scheindlin assumes that stops there should be, too, even if blacks and Hispanics are committing virtually all the violent crime.) She has appointed a federal monitor to oversee the NYPD and purge it of all practices that, she believes, constitute discriminatory policing. If the monitor is no more informed than she, the city is in greater trouble than even the explicit mandates of her opinion would suggest.
  • Drake||

    Maybe she should charge black criminals with civil rights violations for making blacks look bad?

  • John||

    It was the right decision but for the wrong reasons. Stop and frisk is not wrong because it unfairly affects minorities. It is wrong because it completely drops the pre-text of officer safety and admits upfront that they are searching for contraband on the basis of reasonable suspicion. It destroys Terry. I don't understand why more people do not understand that.

  • Bo Cara Esq.||

    -it completely drops the pre-text of officer safety and admits upfront that they are searching for contraband on the basis of reasonable suspicion

    Well said.

  • Whahappan?||

    It's worse. It admits up front that they are searching for contraband on the basis of FYTW.

  • ant1sthenes||

    So, there should be a presumption of criminality based on race?

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Nothing like good old quality investigative journalism:

    National Journal - Pentagon-Sponsored Report: Civilian Nuclear Reactors at Risk of Attack
    Fox News – Security at nation’s nuclear facilities vulnerable to terrorist attack, report says
    CNN – Report: U.S. nuclear plants remain vulnerable to terrorists

    But wait:

    It is a stretch to even call this document a “report”, much less research. It is political propaganda. It is not authored or sourced by anyone with technical or scientific credentials nor is there any peer review (for obvious reasons). The faculty author, whose experience is in political science, asserts that the “research” was “primarily by his [student] assistant”. Little can be found to indicate any subject matter expertise upon which he or his student might rely for his conclusions which depend on technical and complex aspects of nuclear science, nuclear materials and nuclear engineering. Rather, his bio boasts of his background as an activist for Greenpeace which is a political, not a scientific, organization. Few references are given in the paper other than quotes from individuals at other anti-nuclear activist organizations.

    Why did gullible reporters promote a student paper about nuclear facility security?

  • Drake||

    I want to see some reporters try to sneak into a nuke plant with a fake bomb. That would be some fun reading.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    These Greenpeace idiots break onto the grounds of nuke plants in Europe fairly regularly to show how "easy" it is. Little do they know that the security knows they are just morons and doesn't murder-gun them to death as they approach the outer fence. The media would probably have a field day talking about how the big bad nuclear plant killed 5 innocent 23 year olds just trying to protest nuclear power.

    Nuclear plants have small armies of security who are usually ex-military. Outside of actual military installations, they are probably the most well guarded facilities in the country.

  • Drake||

    Post 911 in the U.S. their bodies would have been riddled with bullets, then detonated by remote control.

  • Xenocles||

    That old priest and his buddies who broke into SWFPAC a few years ago lived long enough to bitch about being detained. Well no shit, you broke into a nuclear weapons storage depot.

  • Gray Ghost||

    And then there's these three old protesters, who got a little too close to the Y-12 building at Oak Ridge. I had no idea that most of the US purified U-235 was stored there, though I thought there were plenty of reasons for keeping it well under guard.

    Though the rumor I read was that the security contractor was having a labor dispute at the time, that part of the site was staffed with temporary workers, and there was some chicanery that let the protesters get that close.

    But yeah, try that stunt on an old-school SAC flight line standing a ground alert, and tell me what happens.

  • Drake||

    Lucky to be alive. Try it at a Marine guarded Navy nuke site. The rules of engagement when guarding nukes are basically "engage".

  • ||

    No actual military installation I've been on is well guarded.

  • gaijin||

    Why did gullible reporters promote a student paper about nuclear facility security?

    Damage, destruction, terror, and mayhem...sell!

  • John||

    Nuclear reactors are built such that you could fly a commercial airliner into them and not break the container vessel. Absent some bond villain type cyber attack, I don't see how they are vulnerable to much of anything.

  • tarran||

    ... but they are maintained by union workers, and the materials undergo neutron embrittlement. :)

    There was one reactor (in Ohio or Michigan IIRC) where a slow leak dripping on the pressure vessel head had led to a corrosion crack that penetrated deeply into the vessel.

    You can only engineer around bad maintenance so far.

  • John||

    There was a nuclear accident in Alabama I think back in the early 80s that was much worse than three mile Island. For some reason it just never got any press. I had a nuclear engineer describe it to me once as "Larry, Mo and Curley doing the maintenance." They did everything you could possibly do wrong and ended up with a fire. But still very little radiation escaped. The danger is to the investors who lose their plant not really to the public.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Is that the Browns Ferry Generating Station fire? If so, it was a fire outside of the core and led to no fuel melting, but almost caused a severe accident. The unit is still in operation today.

    A couple workers were trying to seal an air leak under the control room and were using a candle to see if they had sealed the leak or air was still flowing. The foam they were using to seal the leak was apparently very flammable and at one point they put the candle too close and it caught on fire. It damaged a bunch of systems and completely shut down the emergency core cooling system. I guess the core came close to losing cooling water and having a partial melt like TMI but they fixed the problem before any real damage was done.

    But you are right, in most cases with these accidents it is more a danger to investors than anybody else.

  • John||

    That is the one.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    How long did it take them to notice this? Every 18-24 months they take the pressure vessel head off to change fuel, I can't believe nobody found the damage.

    Do you have a link for that story? I'd like to read it. It doesn't exactly make sense to me since inside the pressure vessel is high pressure and temperature water/neutron flux. High pressure and temperature water is very corrosive to metal. The reactor pressure vessel is one of the most indestructible things I know of.

  • tarran||

    Found it.

    It was the Davis Besse nuclear power plant.

    n March 2002, plant staff discovered that the borated water that serves as the reactor coolant had leaked from cracked control rod drive mechanisms directly above the reactor and eaten through more than six inches[12] (150 mm) of the carbon steel reactor pressure vessel head over an area roughly the size of a football (see photo). This significant reactor head wastage on the interior of the reactor vessel head left only 3⁄8 inches (9.5 mm) of stainless steel cladding holding back the high-pressure (~2500 psi, 17 MPa) reactor coolant. A breach most likely would have resulted in a mass loss-of-coolant accident, in which reactor coolant would have jetted into the reactor's containment building and resulted in emergency safety procedures to protect from core damage or meltdown. Because of the location of the reactor head damage, such a jet of reactor coolant might have damaged adjacent control rod drive mechanisms, hampering or preventing reactor shut-down.
  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Thanks for the link, I'm going to read up some more on this. I have heard of the accident but not the details.

  • tarran||

    One thing people should understand is that maintaining nuclear power plants is really, really boring. You're constantly inspecting things that are fine, and since an inspection that finds nothing wrong is suspected of being gun-decked, you make up bullshit hits (the radiation sign had a dented bracket).

    Additionally, if you think you find something serious and raise the alarm, a massive overreaction comes down on you like an elephant on a mouse. If you are wrong, and it's nothing (and it usually is nothing because the design engineers really know their shit) then everyone is mad at you because you just cost them two weeks of getting home before the kids go to bed.

    It breeds a mentality that inspections are bullshit and pointless, and people tend to fly through them. This attitude was the initial, third, fourth, sixth, eight, ninth, thirteenth, fourteenth and sixteenth links in the chain of screw ups that caused the reactor safety I was involved in (for the record, links three, four and nine were my doing).

  • tarran||

    er that should be caused the reactor safety incident I was involved in.

  • John||

    All good points Tarran. And that explains why the military has such a better safety record. The military can have harsh discipline and make people do shit even if it is boring. Also, they rotate people around in jobs so they don't get too complacent.

  • tarran||

    Those factors are important, but there are two additional ones that play a role.

    1) Out at sea, you have nothing to do but work (you can only watch so much AFTN before repacking a few valve stems starts looking comparatively fun)

    2) We have to sleep next to our reactors. :)

  • John||

    That and the esprit de corps. No one wants to be on the ship that ruins the Navy's safety record.

  • Xenocles||

    AFN? What are you, a skimmer?

  • A Secret Band of Robbers||

    One thing people should understand is that maintaining nuclear power plants is really, really boring. You're constantly inspecting things that are fine

    It's the same problem that radiologists and TSOs face. The human brain isn't wired to notice something unusual once every 100,000 times.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    This is a good comment.

  • Brett L||

    It breeds a mentality that inspections are bullshit and pointless, and people tend to fly through them.

    In my Unit Ops lab, the professor drove this home about eight different ways, using things like the Challenger accident and plant disasters in Texas City. Risk attenuation kills. I know some people have tried to experiment with false positives or small acts of risky but safe (usually obscuring or removing signage) changes to make sure inspectors are paying attention.

    Its a really, really, really hard problem.

  • Pro Libertate||

    We have a Bond villain. His name? Putin. Vlad Putin.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    HE CAUSED CHERNOBYL!?!?!?!?!

  • Atanarjuat||

    Not only did he cause it, the radiation from Chernobyl gave him his powers.

  • DJF||

    Its was probably better written then the usual government press releases the media uses.

    They usually don't even bother to read the actual reports, they just copy the press release.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Containment vessels for the core have, from day 1, been designed to withstand a direct hit from an aircraft.

    You would need a bunker buster missile to breach that concrete dome. The "report" that the student wrote was written well, but almost laughable in content.

  • Lord Humungus||

    How to Win a Duel

    So you’ve been challenged to a duel? Don’t worry—you’re in good company. Anybody who’s anybody has dueled once or twice, from presidents like Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln to artists like Edouard Manet and Miguel Cervantes. For centuries, duels were the ideal way to defend your honor after an insult, but in the present day, shooting a rival is considered terrible form, which is why instead of being the deadliest man in your duel, you should work on being the cleverest. The last thing you want to do is actually fight a duel, so use your brain to get out of the situation with your honor intact.
  • ||

    by George Zimmerman

  • Brett L||

    I prefer the Drunken Highlander way: Step 1: Fight a mortal opponent
    Step 2: Be immortal

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Step 4: Profit!

  • Pro Libertate||

    I just read Conrad's "The Duel" (aka "Point of Honor"), which was the basis for the Scott film, The Duellists. One thing I learned is that you don't duel with crazy people, and if you do, you fucking kill them.

  • Lord Humungus||

    a nice little flick, though the accents aren't exactly er, of the period.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Look, one must make certain concessions when casting Harvey Keitel and Keith Carradine. French accents are right out.

  • ||

    The LA coroner’s office has ruled the death of Michael Hastings in a car crash an accident. A toxicology report shows he had methamphetamine and marijuana in his system, although report also says neither were considered factors in the crash.

    For some reason I read that in Dr. Evil's voice with air quotes around "accident."

    BTW is this the same nothing-to-see-here LA coroner's office that examined and ruled on Andrew Breitbart's suspicious death?

  • ant1sthenes||

    Perhaps the same office, but probably not the same coroner.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Elena Kagan admits her colleagues on the Supreme Court don’t understand much about e-mail and other internet technologies and still send paper memos to each other like they did in the 80s.

    And?

  • Dead or In Jail||

    Honestly, if I didn't have to worry about costs or efficiency and I had a job for life, I might have all my e-mail printed out for me by taxpayer funded servants. I'd also make sure to release a heart-felt cackle every day.

  • Lord Humungus||

    Judge says Tumblr 'joke' was terrorist threat, levies five-year social media ban



    Caleb Jamaal Clemmons, the 20-year-old college student who has been in jail for six months after posting a vague but provocative threat on his Tumblr blog, pleaded guilty to the charge of making terroristic threats today and was sentenced by a judge.

    Superior Court Judge John Turner sentenced Clemmons to five years of probation. During that time he is banned from four counties, including the one in which his school is located, and he is not allowed to use social media. He must complete a mental health evaluation within 30 days of release. He must also complete a drug and alcohol evaluation and avoid contact with alcohol and illegal drugs during his probation.
  • John||

    Disgraceful.

  • Bo Cara Esq.||

    -Hawaii officials plan to spend the next two years studying tiger shark movements around Maui amid what they call an unprecedented spike in overall shark attacks since the start of 2012.

    -There have been eight attacks statewide this year and 10 in 2012. Hawaii usually sees only three to four attacks each year, and saw one or zero attacks in 11 years between 1980 and 2012, according to state data.

    A 20-year-old German tourist lost her arm in an attack last week as she snorkeled off the coast of Maui. Four days later, a 16-year-old surfer suffered injuries to both legs after a shark bite in waters off the Big Island. There have been four attacks in the last month, though it's not clear what type of shark was involved in each incident.

    http://www.newsdaily.com/artic.....in-attacks

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    This seems a bit relevant, and is fun.

  • mr simple||

    Probably global warming.

  • Slammer||

  • gaijin||

    Why is everything some kind of damn message?

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    ...Because they don't believe in emergent order, unintended consequences, etc. (except when arguing about Creation™).

  • Tex||

    What about those airline (I'm looking at you, Delta) who make me walk on the RIGHT side of the stanchion before I enter the jetway to board, while their "Elite" class gets to walk on the LEFT side of the stanchion? Outragious!

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    Class sorting

  • Ted S.||

    If the builders had any guts, they'd say they did have a message. But, they'd say the message was a "fuck you" to the politicians who try to force "affordable" housing through government planning.

  • ||

    Jake Gyllenhaal, John Mayer, all these people who have dated Taylor Swift: What are you doing?! Do you go to college campuses and cruise for chicks? Are you that weird and fucked up and pathetic? You’re dating a 21-year-old! Why?! Do you know what a 21- year-old is like? They’re essentially mentally disabled. You don’t become a fully-formed human as a female, or even a male, until you’re at least 30. So you are just an idiot. Why would you want to date an idiot?

    more

  • Brett L||

    Well, I'm pretty sure there's a normal distribution of maturity, but yes, wealth and privilege have been anecdotally noted as slowing the process.

  • Drake||

    Uh, she's hot? It's been a long time since I last touched a 21-year-old woman's body, but I remember it fondly. Like driving a Ferrari instead of a Nissan.

  • Brett L||

    Young, rich, and healthy; I don't know what they were thinking!

  • AlexInCT||

    How do you think when all the blood has rushed elsewhere?

  • Ted S.||

    [hovers over link]

    Oh, it's the right-ons at AV Club.

  • John||

    John Mayer has banged a lot of women. I will give him a pass because he was just checking her off the list. Gyllenhaal probably wanted the abuse.

    But I think some of these guys look at Swift as a challenge. She is hot as hell and they think they can be the one who makes her normal.

  • Spoonman.||

    I hate this idea that childhood lasts until 30.

    I am 24, and I am an adult in every imaginable way. I have an MS, a good job, a house, a wife, and a baby on the way.

  • John||

    My mother was married with three kids when she was 24. Both of my grandfathers were married and working with kids at that age. My one grandfather had to quit school at age 13 to run the family farm after his father died. Now people consider themselves children until 30 and beyond. And we wonder why the country is going down the tubes.

  • Nazdrakke||

    "People say, "Ah, the country is going down the tubes."

    What tubes? Have you seen any tubes? Where are these tubes? And where do they go? And how come there's more than one tube?

    It would seem to me, one country, one tube. But is every state all of a sudden have to have its own tube now? One tube is all you need. But a tube that big? Somebody would have seen it by now. "Hey Joey! Get a load of these fuckin' tubes!"

  • John||

    There are lots of tubes. There is the national bankruptcy tube, the idiotic regulatory tube, the national security state tube and others. Just pick the one you want to go down.

  • robc||

    My one grandfather had to quit school at age 13 to run the family farm after his father died.

    Ditto. He also put his two older sisters thru college.

  • John||

    Both my wife and I have a grandfather who had to leave school to help his family at a very young age. Both of them died very wealthy men. Today, they would have been forced to stay in school by law and their families would have been on the dole.

    Child labor laws, making it illegal for kids to help out their families.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's only if you want to remain an infant into your 20s. As a parent, I'm definitely noticing that a lot of kids are maturing much later than my generation did. It seems to be a trend, and, of course, it's mostly the fault of us parents.

  • John||

    Kids never change. It is the adults who change. And there has to be some kind of correction at some point. Surely these kids who are growing up under their parents' thumb and being treated like they are five or ten years younger than they are will not look back on the experience fondly and want their kids to have a different experience.

  • kinnath||

    Growing up requires pain.

    If you don't learn that stupid shit leads to broken bones as a child, then you learn that stupid shit leads to bankruptcy, divorce, or lots of other bad outcomes when you're 25.

    Parents keep their kids in padded rooms until they're 18 now. So growing up is delayed for a long time.

  • John||

    Yes. And the science bears that out. The newest science on human development shows that the experience of being on your own, have feeling fear and taking risks is essential to cognitive development. Your brain literally gets bigger and functions better because you do things that involve a bit of risk and fear. That is the art of parenting, to let kids experience failure and pain and risk and success in an environment where they won't do any real damage to themselves. People have totally forgotten that. You don't do your kid any favors sheltering him from every hardship.

  • kinnath||

    My wife got in trouble at work for telling a 28-year-old co-worker to grow up and put on her big girl panties.

    It is stunning how many people with college degrees and 4 or 5 years job experience still act like they are in junior high.

  • John||

    I have a friend who was a student life director at a major med school. She often had to deal with the complaints of angry parents about the treatment of their snowflakes. That is right, parents calling a med school like it is the local middle school when their snowflake didn't get an A. I cried a little when she told me that.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I have an idea: "Fuck off, you have no legal rights here--these are adults. Talk to your fucking loser kid."

  • Hyperion||

    I am 24, and I am an adult in every imaginable way. I have an MS, a good job, a house, a wife, and a baby on the way.

    Did you check your privilege at the start of the thread?

  • Brett L||

    Now this is how to seethe with disdain

    The Federal Reserve answers only to God, but Ben Bernanke’s must not have known that his boss was such a prankster. All of a sudden here is the interest rate of 10-year Treasury paper rising like an angry carbuncle on Ben’s pale tuchus just when he thought he could sit back and watch the mud wrestling contest between Larry Summers and Janet Yellen.

    Poor Ben, sedulous student of the Great Depression, who didn’t notice that the country had changed from a nation of farmers and factory workers to a nation of pole dancers and waiters, now awaits his sublime moment of Hooverization. Like poor President Hoover, he gets to hang around the pilot house half a year after he runs the garbage barge of US finance aground on the shoals of wishful thinking and accounting fraud.

  • Mike M.||

    Awesome. +6.1 trillion.

  • gaijin||

    But, but...someone who shall go unnamed told me in this very forum that low rates reflected how inflation was under control of top men.

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    I hate to potentially start a shit-slinging sub-thread, but I will weigh in here as a quasi-monetarist: Low interest rates can be a sign of tight money. If you do not believe me, consult Milton Friedman.

    Should the primary point have been about Top. Men., then, yes... Top. Men. suck.

  • gaijin||

    top men suck. On point and on this we agree.

  • Brett L||

    Low interest and running the presses to melting? Probably not tight money.

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    Brett, monetary tightness and looseness are results of both the supply of money and the demand for money. During the recession and recovery, velocity has been down, the inverted credit pyramid has narrowed, the monetary base has been a particularly misleading measure of "the money supply," etc. Hell, we are paying interest on reserves when rates are near zero! Why should those reserves be anything but reserves?

  • Gorilla tactics||

    inflation=velocity x money supply

  • Atanarjuat||

    "Tuchus" has to be one of the most inconsistently spelled words in the English language.

  • Xenocles||

    It's not English.

  • KDN||

    Unsurprising. Yiddish uses Hebrew lettering; transliteration is rarely consistent.

  • Lord Humungus||

    (Reuters) Analysis: Obamacare, tepid U.S. growth fuel part-time hiring

    Faltering economic growth at home and abroad and concern that President Barack Obama's signature health care law will drive up business costs are behind the wariness about taking on full-time staff, executives at staffing and payroll firms say.

    Employers say part-timers offer them flexibility. If the economy picks up, they can quickly offer full-time work. If orders dry up, they know costs are under control. It also helps them to curb costs they might face under the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.
  • Pro Libertate||

    Soon, we most of us will be serfs, dependent on our lords for protection and the dole.

    The Roman government helped to destroy its independent agrarian economy, driving people to the city. Then it built a huge welfare class by the dole and other bribes. That happened faster, because Rome wasn't a consumer-based society like we are (which, by the way, is a great thing for us, because it meant for most of our history that people, not the government, were the ones doing the consuming on an overall economic scale), but we're heading in a bad direction.

  • John||

    One of the worst things that happened to Rome was conquering Egypt. Egypt, because of the Nile floods, almost never had a bad harvest and had multiple ones in the same year. That seemingly endless supply of food is what kept the Roman cities from starving and why they were able to do what you describe.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It didn't help matters, but the problem started before then.

    Rome's economy became too dependent on continued conquest, since they had a tiny consumer class and most of the "consumption" was done by the government, anyway. A fragile economy dependent on stealing stuff from other countries ain't going to last forever.

    I read something just last night about how quickly they blew through the huge amounts of booty Trajan took from Dacia. Governments never seem to know how to avoid spending too damned much.

  • John||

    Nations are a lot like individuals. Free money in the form of conquered lands or oil wealth usually just gets blown like lottery or gambling winnings. Look at Spain. All that gold they stole from the Aztecs and Incas didn't do them a bit of good beyond being able to wage war against the Turks. The modern Persian Gulf states have done nothing with their oil money but blow it.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's shocking that no one in these oil countries that lack other industries don't do something significant to spend that money on developing other industries. I mean, they're one or two big breakthroughs in technology away from oil being only in demand for plastics and lubrication. Can you imagine what would happen to oil prices if a viable fusion reactor were announced? Not even deployed, just proven to be economically feasible.

  • John||

    Bad governments and an elite that didn't give a shit. When you are poor, you have to face your problems. They could just paper them over with money.

  • Lord Humungus||

    How The NRA Built A Massive Secret Database Of Gun Owners

    The National Rifle Association has rallied gun-owners — and raised tens of millions of dollars — campaigning against the threat of a national database of firearms or their owners.

    But in fact, the sort of vast, secret database the NRA often warns of already exists, despite having been assembled largely without the knowledge or consent of gun owners. It is housed in the Virginia offices of the NRA itself. The country’s largest privately held database of current, former, and prospective gun owners is one of the powerful lobby’s secret weapons, expanding its influence well beyond its estimated 3 million members and bolstering its political supremacy.
  • DJF||

    Just because the NRA has a list of gun rights supporters does not mean that they all own guns.

    And what is wrong with having this list secret, does the author want the NRA to publish the names?

  • Atanarjuat||

    does the author want the NRA to publish the names?

    Without a doubt.

  • John||

    That is some grade A concern trolling there.

  • Brett L||

    Oh Noes, Toyota has a massive database of current and potential car owners!

  • Gozer the Gozerian||

    I'll worry when this NRA has a secret list of possible gun owners.

  • NeonCat||

    You damn well better do your part, unless you have an oppression permission slip/excuse.

  • ||

    One-legged man accused of fraud over disability allowance because officials looked at wrong leg

    more

  • Brett L||

    Australia is like the Florida of the World.

  • ||

    not an Australian story, droog

  • Brett L||

    Dammit. I wanted you to be one of us, IFH.

  • ||

    I'm simultaneously touched and terrified

  • Ted S.||

    I'm simultaneously touched and terrified

    Warty's touch will do that, I hear.

  • Pro Libertate||

    To be sure, Florida is far, far less lethal than Australia. It's like Harrison's Deathworld there.

  • Lord Humungus||

    UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare

    United Parcel Service Inc. plans to remove thousands of spouses from its medical plan because they are eligible for coverage elsewhere. The Atlanta-based logistics company points to the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, as a big reason for the decision, reports Kaiser Health News.

    The decision comes as many analysts are downplaying the Affordable Care Act's effect on companies such as UPS, noting that the move reflects a long-term trend of shrinking corporate medical benefits, Kaiser Health News reports. But UPS repeatedly cites Obamacare to explain the decision, adding fuel to the debate over whether it erodes traditional employer coverage, Kaiser says.
  • kinnath||

    Foreseeable consequences . . . .

  • Hyperion||

    No evidence.

    /Obama admin.

  • Jon Lester||

  • BakedPenguin||

    Russia being able to slam the US & UK on human rights is just hilarious. After all the sanctimonious bullshit our politicians have said about them, you know they are loving this.

  • sarcasmic||

    Model accuses parking-lot magnate of giving her herpes after promising her he was 'clean'

    William Lerner owns Imperial Parking Systems - largest garage operator in tristate area
    Unnamed Soho model said she trusted him enough to have unprotected sex with him
    Days later she had a herpes outbreak


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....erpes.html

  • tarran||

    Is she sure his name wasn't Doofenshmirtz?

  • ||

    All his parking lots have self-destruct buttons for some reason.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    It wasn't Lerner who gave her herpes, it was the dirty parking deck they had sex in.

  • ||

    Papers filed yesterday in Manhattan Supreme Court say that Lerner met the 43-year-old model at an art gallery in 2012

    So ex-model.

  • ||

    Not necessarily. Models aren't only runway. She could do catalogue work wearing mumsy clothes. Or be a hand model.

  • ||

    A 43 year old hand model? How many Ben-Gay ads do they make a year?

    Yes, she *could* be a full-time model, or she could be a lying, delusional waitress. My money's on the latter.

  • Fatty Bolger||

    How Obamacare Will Harm Cancer Patients

    Obamacare coaxes health plans to reduce spending and healthcare utilization by limiting the choices patients will have of doctors. This is the primary way that health plans are being cheapened enough to meet Obamacare’s strict guidelines on the low value of the coverage that the plans can offer.

    Insurers are barred from using the other tools that they’ve traditionally employed to keep the costs of policies in check: cost sharing, underwriting risk, adjusting premiums and benefits. The only thing that health plans are permitted to do under Obamacare is narrow the networks of providers that they contract with. So that’s precisely what they’re doing. By contracting with fewer providers, insurers can cheapen their coverage by clamping down on what doctors prescribe.

    This will hit cancer patients especially hard.
  • John||

    The only thing that mitigates that is the rise of information technology. Twenty years ago you had to go to the best hospital to get the best treatment. Now thanks to the internet, the smallest cancer center in the middle of nowhere uses the same treatment protocol as MD Anderson. So, the importance of getting the right doctor is less than it once was.

  • CatoTheElder||

    Didn't His Oneness (PBUH) say that the cost-saving effectiveness measures of PPACA would force doctors to offer a particular pill instead of expensive treatments? Didn't the Botoxed One say that they had to pass the bill to find out what was inside it?

    Nobody can say they were deceived. Cancer patients are expensive, and everybody eventually dies of something. PPACA gives cancer patients an opportunity to contribute to the good of society.

  • Gorilla tactics||

    "his Oneness"? plotinus reference? if so +1

  • Mike M.||

    The Crips murder an Australian tourist in cold blood, and Australians are now being advised not to come to the United States.

    Obama's America: making friends, influencing people, and increasing our standing around the world, just like his cult-worshippers said would happen.

  • Ted S.||

    Did the Cleveland Browns let you down again?

  • Hyperion||

    Obama's America: making friends, influencing people, and increasing our standing around the world, just like his cult-worshippers said would happen.

    They also mentioned something about closing Gitmo, bringing all the troops home, and Arab Spring...

  • ||

    don't forget healing the oceans

  • bmp1701||

    How is any of this the fault of Chocolate Jesus?

  • Mike M.||

    It's not. I'm simply mocking his idiot sycophants, who oddly seem to be taking the day off today.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    But in fact, the sort of vast, secret database the NRA often warns of already exists, despite having been assembled largely without the knowledge or consent of gun owners.

    The people getting spammed with NRA "NEEDZ MOAR MUNNIES!" messages haven't figured out the NRA knows who they are and where they live?

  • John||

    It is concern trolling. See if the NRA already has the big database, what is the harm of the government having one? Or, if you are that concerned, maybe you should stop funding the NRA so your name isn't in the database.

    They think gun owners are as dumb as they are.

  • From the Tundra||

    Wow, pretty scary stuff! And, judging from my inbox this morning, Cabelas's, Amazon, Lone Star Percussion and Monster Hunter Nation are in on it, too...

  • Hyperion||

    Does the NRA share that secret list with HHS and DHS?

    /my one question for that retard.

  • John||

    Well they should be would be his answer.

  • NeonCat||

    They probably think they don't.

  • Bobarian||

    Since the NSA knows who the NRA is spamming, and also probably has direct access to the DB, then yes.

  • ant1sthenes||

    They're just lucky they aren't in the UK.

  • Ted S.||

    Mother Forced To Kill Her Own Baby in North Korean Prison

    Was the mother named Sophie?

  • ||

    Sophie didn't kill her child, she just had to make a choice, she decided her daughter was a tax.

  • Goldwin Smith||

    Was Alan Alda visiting?

  • John||

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ml?hpid=z1

    Muslim Brotherhood at risk of falling apart. It has been a tough summer for Huma Abedin. First, her husband can't stop sending pictures of his junk to strange women and now her political mentors seem on the verge of falling apart.

  • Hyperion||

    I thought she was Indian. Shows how much I pay attention to the fluff like Weiner and his antics.

  • John||

    She is Arab. And she has major ties to the Brotherhood. She is a typical Western anti-imperialist who thinks various nasty third world groups are just groovy because they are anti-imperialist.

  • From the Tundra||

    Don't forget her ties to the Clintons. She's been working for them in one capacity or another since the 90s. She's far more interesting than her husband

  • John||

    She is. I really don't understand why she married him.

  • Jon Lester||

    There's a simpler possibility that no one seems willing to state...

  • From the Tundra||

    The Administration Scandal Game: Nixon or Obama?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFNIUqtIGQ

  • ||

    Fuck, people are stupid. Every question, other than Fast & Furious, was about something that occurred in the last year.

  • From the Tundra||

    Yeah, I should have posted a Low Information Voter Ahead warning.

  • cw||

    OT: My official first day of law school.

    If I can get through it without grimacing from something related to "social justice," I might be OK.

  • Slammer||

    Good Luck! The first time a professor brings up "social justice" ask them to define it. Then watch the tap dancing.

  • ant1sthenes||

    Try to manipulate them into acknowledging that racial profiling (e.g. NYC's stop and frisk policy) is a form of social justice.

  • John||

    I found law school to be fun. The cases are intellectually stimulating. I can honestly say I enjoyed law school. I enjoyed it a lot more than practicing a lot of the law I practiced. Just take it seriously and work hard. Don't buy the commercial outlines. Make your own. The value of an outline is the process of making it. That is where you learn. If you buy it already made, you never learn. Unless you are some kind of savant who can just memorize everything, commercial outlines hold you back.

  • robc||

    Ive never grasped the whole "outline" thing that law students do, but I agree with you just the same.

    I learned from writing notes, I rarely had to reference them again, as the process of doing the calculation in my notes taught me what I needed to know.

    Trying to finish the problem before the professor in my notes (and waiting for him to catch up if I got stuck) worked for most of my math/science/engineering courses.

  • John||

    They do it because they are lazy and think it is a short cut. And maybe for them it is. But for me, the act of reading the material and taking the notes is how I retain it. Buying an outline never did me any good.

  • robc||

    No, not the buying part, I get that (and I agree about the laziness).

    I dont understand "outlines".

    The term has no meaning to me in this context.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I think the point of them is to just run through everything in your head again. Law is a lot of memorization and twisting your brain to understand analyses that are usually twisted logic to get to a preferred result.

  • robc||

    No, what I dont get is, are these literal outlines?

    Like

    I. blah
    A. blah blah
    1. blah
    2. blah
    a. blah
    b. more blah
    3. etc

    ????

  • robc||

    ^^^assume proper indenting above

  • Xenocles||

    Probably something like these.

  • SugarFree||

    Sample I found online (assume indenting):

    Torts II Outline

    I. Strict Liability—No Regard to the Actor’s State of Mind: “One who carries on an abnormally dangerous activity is subject to liability for harm to the person, land, or chattels of another resulting from the activity, although he has exercised the utmost care to prevent the harm.
    A. Act
    1. Abnormally Dangerous Activity
    a. risk of harm
    1) uncertain or uncontrollable risk
    b. likeliness that the harm that results will be great
    1) what property owner does with adjacent land
    c. reasonable care does not eliminate the risk
    d. not a matter of common usage
    1) common usage
    a) customarily “carried on” by the great mass of mankind OR many people in the community
    b) ***ARGUMENTS FOR “CARRIED ON”***
    1. “Carried on” means the person or the entity who undertakes in the activity. Courts prefer easy rules because they promote predictability and consistency for future cases. Adopting this rule will further this value because it is easier to establish who carries on the activity rather than who is affected by the activity. Here,  ____________ and therefore was the person undertaking in the activity.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Depends on the subject. Don't forget, most of law school is about reading and interpreting cases. So instead of re-reading every case, you distill the important things from the case in an outline.

    What's tricky is understanding what's important. In some classes, like Constitutional Law, which are partially history classes, dissents can be even more important than the actual holding.

  • ||

    I gave up writing notes altogether for EE. I found it much more effective to try and understand the concepts/solve the problem in class. Also, go work through the problems ASAP after the class to reinforce things.

  • robc||

    My "notes" were 95% solving the problems in class.

    Anything else I just listened to and tried to understand.

  • ||

    Yup, I had an emag class where the tests were basically just variations on problems done in class. Since I understood all those problems and how they were solved I crushed the final, was the first one done, in something like 30 minutes. As I handed in my test the Prof looked at me like, 'How can guys not get it?'.

  • John||

    In Math I always found doing the problems to be the only way to learn. I would do every single problem in the book no matter how long it took me and then go back through and compare to the model answers. Law is a bit different than math. Law you need the process of reading it and writing down what you think is going on. In math, you have to do the problems.

  • ||

    Which is why I would suck at law.

  • robc||

    Which is why I would suck at law.

    This.

    I think I could put up an outrageously high score on the LSAT though.

  • robc||

    I never needed to do that many.

    I did some subset of the assigned homework. Generally the odd numbered problems, as the answers were in the back of the book. And any even numbered ones the covered concepts not covered by the odds.

    Fortunately for me, I didnt have any college math classes in which homework was collected/graded as I wouldnt have done more than my subset in that case either.

  • John||

    I never did until I hit calculus. I am very good at math up until a certain point. And then it gets hard. When I took the SAT, the problems start out easy and get harder. Basically I got every single one right until the last couple and that was when I got separated with the chaf.

  • robc||

    There were hard problems on the SAT math?

    I did miss one, which still pisses me off 26 years later.

    Under the post 1994 rescaling, I wouldnt have known I missed one, as I still would have had an 800.

    BTW, the math section of the GRE is literally no harder than the math section of the SAT. Are they assuming no one took math in college? WTF?

  • John||

    I didn't take any AP math classes or anything. I took algebra II and trig and nothing else. So it just hit stuff I had never been taught how to do. And yeah, back in the age of the dinosaurs, an 800 in math meant you didn't miss a question. I wonder if i would have gotten a perfect score by today's scale. I bet I would have been close.

  • robc||

    You needed a 780 pre-1995 to get recentered to 800 (for the math).

    For verbal, a 730 became a 800.

    linky

    A friend of mine had a 1600. He took the SAT four times chasing it, he got the 800 math every time, but it took 4 tries to get the verbal. He would have only taken it one time after the 1995 recentering.

  • John||

    I wouldn't have been perfect in math, but I would have in verbal. 70 points? That is appalling.

  • robc||

    You dont type like someone with an 800 verbal.

  • John||

    Spelling and typing wasn't on the test. That is the ACT. The SAT is all about reading comprehension, vocabulary and abstract thinking.

  • Gray Ghost||

    You needed a 780 pre-1995 to get recentered to 800 (for the math).

    For verbal, a 730 became a 800.

    Holy shit, did they re-norm that! I'd have gained 90 points on my total score. I had no idea it'd been jiggered that much.

    I cynically wonder if they did that in order to artificially broaden the pool of people with perfect/near-perfect SAT scores, so that the SAT would be meaningless for distinguishing them for purposes of admission to the top 15 or so schools? That way, other distinguishing factors---(cough) diversity, (cough) extra-curriculars (cough, cough)---would need to be used.

  • ||

    Actual mathematics doesn't start until you are in a class that consists mainly of proofs.

    Everything before that is just adding tools to your toolbox ;)

  • robc||

    Actual mathematics doesn't start until you are in a class that consists mainly of proofs.

    My college roommate (last 2.333 years) was a math major. Yep. I would see his tests, they didnt look like math to me.

    I took a LOT (far more than most engineers) of higher level math classes, but they were just more tools in my engineering toolbox. I avoided the proofy classes.

  • ||

    I only took one really proofy class, complex variables, cause that shit fascinated me. It was really, shockingly hard. Fortunately it was my only summer class and I was able to devote a lot of time to it. Once one becomes accustomed to the different style, it's not that bad actually.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I used to read whole hornbooks. Then again, I was insane at the time.

  • SugarFree||

    If it gets really bad, play with yourself under the desk. Everyone else is doing it, even the professor.

  • SFC B||

    Kaitlyn Hunt, the Florida teenage who was arrested earlier this year after her minor girlfriend's parents contacted the police about Hunt's sexual relationship with their daughter, is back in jail. She violated the court's no-contact order with her alleged victim by providing the girl with an iPad and then exchanging several thousand texts, some explicit pictures, and even admitting in the text messages that what she was doing violated the court order.

    That she previously rejected a plea agreement that would have kept her out of prison and from having to register as a sex offender is probably not looking like the best of moves right now.

    Link

  • John||

    That case sucks. But doesn't suck any worse than the tons of cases involving straight young men. My only problem with the objection to it is that the objection among the gay groups seem to be that the law was ever applied to a gay person not that the law itself is unjust. If these people are outraged by this case, and they should be, they need to be equally outraged at all of the other cases that don't involve gay couples.

  • sarcasmic||

    IIRC she is 19 and the object of her affection is 14.

    She's not being targeted because of her sexual orientation. She's being targeted because of the five year age difference.

  • John||

    Exactly. And I think those laws are a bit daft. But that said, is it that hard to find a g/f your own age? I mean 14 is a lot younger than 19. This is even a close case for me.

  • Brett L||

    Senior-freshman relationship. So, I guess I'm on the edge, too. IIRC, the younger girl's parents weren't cool with it, so bring on the police. Sadly, the older girl had a chance to avoid having her life ruined with sex offender status and blew it.

  • John||

    When the cops show up, you go find a new girlfriend. I don't think the outrage over this case did this girl any favors. It probably got her to thinking that she was entitled to do anything rather than doing the smart thing and walking away.

  • Hyperion||

    14 year olds are not entirely innocent snowflakes.

    I know this, because I was one, at one time.

    I guess I am from an older and unenlightened school. If I were enlightened I would want to put this girl into prison where she will actually be sexually abused against her will, unlike her willing 14 year old girlfriend.

  • Hyperion||

    Back when I was growing up, something like this would have been strictly between the parents. There would never have been any thought of involving the law in it.

    But now, you know, it's a different world that we live in, with terrorists under everyones beds, we have to jail the children, for the children. It all makes sense.

  • John||

    For sure. 14 is not 9. If my 14 year old daughter is running around with a 19 year old, I am going to hold her responsible as well. She is old enough to know better. I could never imagine calling the cops over this. It is between me and my daughter and the other parties involved.

  • Hyperion||

    If the law of today would have been involved when I was growing up, I guess I would be serving multiple life sentences now for having consensual sex with females, when neither of us were of the age of consent.

    How many 18 year old virgins are there? I didn't know many back when I was growing up. I guess we were just perverted heathens back then.

    Or maybe it was just natural.. nah, couldn't have been!

  • John||

    I think there are more than you think. Most women I knew did everything but sex in high school. Women have a real hang up about intercourse when they are young. For a lot of them, that happens in college. I would say maybe 1/4 of the girls I knew in high school actually had intercourse. But the other 75% nearly always moved on after a year or two in college.

  • Hyperion||

    Sounds about right, John.

    My recollection might be a little skewed by the fact that most guys back then, that had never had sex, would lie about it.

  • Rasilio||

    Stats say slightly under half of 18 year olds are virgins, pretty much the same ratio it's been for decades.

  • sarcasmic||

    Back in the 80s I knew a 19yr old dude who had a relationship with a 14yr old girl. Because he was an adult the police got involved, even though the girl's mom didn't care.

  • Hyperion||

    I had a relationship with a 19 yr. old girl when I was 13. My parents seemed a little alarmed about it, but they didn't do anything to stop it.

    I think they started to become worried that I was going to get some girl pregnant because of my constant... girlinizing?

    Ok, besides the one, they were all more my own age... so anyway, I survived the girls along with all of the other crazy shit I did that would make parents today instantly drop dead of a massive heart attack.

    But I knew plenty of other kids having sex when they were around 15-16 yrs old. It seemed normal back then. Has todays youth really become celibate? Are we just going to put them all in prison with hardened criminals?

    I think the new Puritans have taken over.

  • Matrix||

    Kids have a lot more to do nowadays. Parents running them off to 15 different activities. Plus they are tied to their electronic devices. There's more to do than just sex.

    Oh, and parents seem to be watching their kids more and more.

  • Rasilio||

    "But I knew plenty of other kids having sex when they were around 15-16 yrs old. "

    Lol yeah and back in the 80's I knew more than a handful of kids who were having sex at 12 and 13 and a couple at 11

  • SFC B||

    Back when I was growing up, something like this would have been strictly between the parents. There would never have been any thought of involving the law in it.

    The parents did try to handle it by telling the grown-up woman to leave their child alone and stop trying to have sex with her. She chose to ignore them. She then chose to ignore the police when they told her to stop. She then chose to ignore a judge when she told her to stop.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    If I can get through it without grimacing from something related to "social justice," I might be OK.

    Be sure to ask for your copy of the Social Contract.

  • From the Tundra||

  • OldMexican||

    It's not like there are a myriad other choices available to publish your own book besides a publisher... right?

  • Outlaw||

    Thin privilege is not having to spend extra money on buying a bathtub you’ll fit in.

    One of my only joys in life is a relaxing bubble bath where I can submerge my whole body and just soak for an hour or so. My husband and I are remodeling our vacation home’s master bathroom, which includes a new tub. However, I am horrified to find that extra large tubs, the only kind that are large enough to submerge my whole body under, cost thousands more than regular sized tubs. Thin people will never understand the pain of going over-budget to indulge in the few things that make you happy at the cost of your dignity.

  • kinnath||

    http://www.salon.com/2013/08/2.....ct_of_war/

    This cowardly silence is an act of war

    The president's refusal to object to David Miranda's U.K. detention speaks volumes in the ongoing war on journalism

    Why do we visit Salon. Because salty, ham tears are so delicious.

  • John||

    Salon didn't have a problem when DOJ was accusing the one guy of being an accessory to a crime by reporting a leak. But that was an evil Faux News guy so that didn't count. Now they act shocked when the administration goes after a respectable leftists and a gay leftist at that.

    Go fuck yourself Salon. You helped create this monster. Now live with the consequences.

  • OldMexican||

    The Venezuelan government is trying to drum up tourism to the country; only 700,000 tourists visit per year.


    "We won't murder, rape or rob so many of you this time! Honest! Please come and have fun!"

  • Enough About Palin||

  • prolefeed||

    Elena Kagan admits her colleagues on the Supreme Court don’t understand much about e-mail and other internet technologies and still send paper memos to each other like they did in the 80s.

    Given the NSA monitoring of emails, paper memos about SCOTUS decision making seems like an inadvertently wise policy.

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