What Hook Up Culture? Study Finds No Casual Sex Outbreak Among Young Adults

Hook upMacskazs:dreamstimeThe advent of the hook up culture - the supposed increased in brief uncommitted sexual encounters between individuals who are not romantic partners or dating each other - among young Americans has provoked much handwringing from promoters of the latest moral panic. But is it so? A new study by researchers at the University of Portland suggests that young Americans are not behaving all that differently with regard to sex than have previous generations. Using survey data of 18 to 25 year-olds from the General Social Survey the researchers compared the responses from a cohort from 1988-1996 to one from 2002-2010. What did they find?

Among the 1988-1996 cohort, 65.2 percent reported having sex weekly or more often in the past year, compared to 59.3 percent of college students from the “hookup era.” In addition, 31.9 percent of the earlier cohort reported having more than one sexual partner in the past year, compared with 31.6 percent of contemporary college students. Also, 51.7 percent of the earlier group reported having more than two sexual partners after turning 18, compared to 50.5 percent of the 2002-2010 cohort. 

In terms of attitudes toward other sexual norms, the researchers also found that contemporary college students were no more accepting than those in the earlier cohort of sex between 14 to 16-year-olds, married adults having sex with someone other than their spouse, or premarital sex between adults. But contemporary college students were significantly more accepting of sex between adults of the same sex.

However, [one researcher] said it is true that sexually active college students from the contemporary era were more likely than those from the earlier era to report that one of their sexual partners during the past year was a casual date/pickup (44.4 percent compared to 34.5 percent) or a friend (68.6 percent compared to 55.7 percent), and less likely to report having a spouse or regular sexual partner (77.1 percent compared to 84.5 percent).

“Contemporary college students are coping with a new set of norms in which marriage occurs later,” [one researcher] said. “This means the idea of waiting until marriage to begin sexual behavior is a less tenable narrative. Courtship and relationship practices are changing, and the implications of these changes present a new unique set of challenges, but this study demonstrates that we are not in the midst of a new era of no rules attached sexuality. In fact, we found that, overall, sexual behavior among college students has remained fairly consistent over the past 25 years.”

Like the Rainbow Parties and Butt-Chugging Freakouts before it, the hook up culture panic is almost over. Time to "panic" over something else.

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  • ||

    As someone who falls squarely in the earlier cohort, all I can say is...college was fun and while there was plenty of hooking up it was no different from regular society. People like to fuck, whether they are in college or not. Also, I like trashy girls. But I'm pretty sure you all knew that.

  • jesse.in.mb||

    Why are you always pushing your deviant love of skanks in our faces!?

  • ||

    Because I want you to accept me, jesse. I want my skank habit validated by faceless people on the internet. Also, I'm hoping honesty will cure my syphilis.

  • WTF||

    I thought Warty 'cured' your syphilis.

  • SugarFree||

    Only by giving him a more virulent strain of hypersyphilis.

  • JW||

    Be nice. He's working his way up to Ultranorhea.

  • ||

    My ultimate goal is MEGA-AIDS.

  • Warrren||

    Embrace the SKANKNADO!

  • jesse.in.mb||

    You make much more sense now that I'm factoring in tertiary syphilis. Have you tried mercury saunas? I hear they work wonders.

  • Brett L||

    I hear hemhorragic fevers are just the thing.

  • Dweebston||

    Your dishonesty certainly helped spread it around. And that's why there are no libertarian women.

  • JW||

    Epi can't function sexually without a tramp stamp that says PUT PENIS HERE, with an arrow pointing down.

  • sarcasmic||

    Did you hear the one about the guy who went into a gay bar with EXIT ONLY tattooed on his ass?

  • SugarFree||

    What font did you go with?

  • T||

    Comic Sans, of course. Because sarcasmic is just that kind of a person.

  • sarcasmic||

    Like I could find a tattoo artist willing to get that close to my chronically lactose intolerant ass. Puh-lease!

  • Dweebston||

    Market failure.

  • ||

    Can a person truly "love" a skank, jesse? Let's not elevate this unpleasantness above where it belongs. Which is in the gutter. Which is where Epi probably found his last pock-mark-riddled paramour.

  • ||

    She still had some teeth! Which, honestly, was a shame.

  • jesse.in.mb||

    You misunderstand me. I don't think he loves any individual skank. He loves "skanks" in the abstract. They are interchangeable like good meals or fine wines. One consumes them and they are gone but there are always other ones to consume, none of them exactly the same, but all of them blurring in memory with the passage of time.

  • JW||

    One consumes them and they are gone but there are always other ones to consume

    Shhh! That part is the dark secret!

    "It rubs the tanning lotion on its body."

  • SugarFree||

    He probably has to clean his penis with industrial solvent and a blowtorch. I pity the hapless wench who currently shares his bed. That poor, deluded, multi-infected girl doesn't know what horrors lurk in her urinary tract.

  • ||

    "The women I mate with have real clown traits."

  • ||

    And while I was inside
    I mighta been undignified
    And that is maybe why you cried
    I don't know, maybe so,
    But what's the difference now?

  • SugarFree||

    But what's the difference now?

    Are you soconotarians still complaining about the fake Benghazi scandal?

  • sarcasmic||

  • ||

    Now that is what I'm talking about.

  • Brett L||

    Transformers XI?

  • ||

    You guys can have the movie star. I want the body double.

  • ||

    With the body double, at least Brian Austin Greene hasn't stuck his stinky weiner in it. One assumes.

  • ||

    Well, there's that too.

    I can't think of anything worse than being with (dating) a movies star. Talk about losing control of your life. And in this case, the BD is hotter.

  • jesse.in.mb||

    Wait, Brian Austin Greene is not only still alive, but married to Megan Fox?

    I suppose I should've known that they didn't drown all of the actors from 90210 when Ian Ziering became a Chippendale's dancer at 49.

  • ||

    DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT STEVE SANDERS

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    only he can save us from the next Sharknado!

  • ||

    I wonder if I try to re-submit my reply, the squirrelz will get me?

    Anyways, they've been together a really long time (by Hollyweird standards, at least).

  • Hugh Akston||

    Is this what this whole thread is going to be like? Insecure assholes bragging about all the juicy tail they scored in college?

    I think I'll go to that meeting after all.

  • JW||

    Speaking as a married man, married for longer than I can count, all I can say is that I really, really, really miss college.

  • sarcasmic||

    Having the same thing for dinner every night beats going without.

  • Dweebston||

    I can afford going without a few nights if I gorge when I don't.

  • StackOfCoins||

    sarcasmic, in what universe does marriage = steady supply of sex?

  • sarcasmic||

    in what universe does marriage = steady supply of sex?

    Depends on how you define steady supply I guess.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    It's corny I guess but sex with somebody you truly care about and love is much more satisfying than random sex, overall. That's my opinion anyway.

  • JW||

    I cared deeply for them all! Right up until their cab arrived!

  • tarran||

    Lt. Frank Drebin: You know, sometimes I envy you and Edna. You have the same person every day for over 30 years. You wake up, eat with her, sleep with her. Make love to the same woman.
    [Ed looks increasingly disgusted as Frank goes on]
    Lt. Frank Drebin: You spend every possible waking moment together, while I'm out running around with a bunch of 20-year-olds who only want a good time and cheap sex sex sex. Girls who can't say no. Girls who can't get enough. "More, more, more. It's your turn now to wear the handcuffs...
    [Ed starts foaming at the mouth... literally]
    Lt. Frank Drebin: I just want love, Ed.
    Ed Hocken: I'm sure you'll... find love, Frank.
  • ||

    Insecure?!?

  • ||

    Wait. What? Are you saying you somehow do not have the overwhelming urge to tell us what types of ladies you prefer to bone? UNPOSSIBLE.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Sorry Dags, you'll just have to content yourself with literally every other guy in the world's tales of the time he was knuckle deep in some fresh red snapper.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Make that three knuckles deep. If you let even the slightest opportunity for vulgarity escape from these stories, you'rte clearly marked as some kind of gay monk.

  • ||

    You're the vulgarian, you fuck!

  • ||

    It's just darling how you try to cover yourself but don't amend it to "elbow-deep."

  • ||

    UGH. Why do you have to make everything difficult, Hugh?

    What if... and I'm spitballing here, but stick with me... what if there was some way to link to pictures of ladies. And, this is where it really gets good, you could then declare the degree to which you would like to sex them? I might possibly be on to something here.

  • SugarFree||

    I had the same girlfriend all through college and then I married her. :-(

  • Rasilio||

    Lucky you I went to college was single the entire time and never had so much as a date, forget a girlfriend or hook up.

    Probably a side effect of being a Physics major living off campus at an inner city commuter school, and a massive geek long before being a geek was cool (or there was such a thing as female geeks).

  • SugarFree||

    So kidding. I was always a serial mongamist. I probably still be with my first girlfriend if she hadn't left me for that art class kid.

  • sarcasmic||

    Monogamy is underrated.

  • ||

    So why did you ever break up with your mom?

  • kinnath||

    What's a "hook up"?

  • JW||

    Stereo, kinnath, they're talking about stereos. It's all about the cross channel speakers.

  • kinnath||

    OK. I just stick to headphones, otherwise the ball and chain gets annoyed.

  • Almanian!||

    Wait, there's a "hook up culture"? WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED OF THIS! I want some "hook up" before the next moral panic comes. I WANT MY HOOK UP, GODDAMNIT!

  • ||

    Check your entitlement mister.

  • Almanian!||

    lulz

    I'm reminded of a conversation with a work colleague in the early 90's...."We're so lucky we went to college when we did. Pre-AIDS. Christ, it was sport fuckin' in our time..."

    "Sport Fuckin'" Pretty much.

    But, yeah, I'm sure it's WORSE NOW, CAUSE...KIDS THESE DAYS.

  • WTF||

    BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BUTT-RAINBOW-CHUGGING PARTIEZ!??

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And now they're hiding an obvious epidemic of bootycallitis! Is there nothing researchers won't cover up? Think of the children.

  • WTF||

    And now they're hiding an obvious epidemic of bootycallitis! Is there nothing researchers won't cover up? Think of the children.

    I think that's illegal.

  • SugarFree||

    OT:

    All the people involved in the hideous decision to replace Lime Skittles with Green Apple Skittles should be burned alive using fat rendered from the tortured flesh of their loved ones.

  • jesse.in.mb||

    Have you developed some kind of tolerance for sugar? Is hurling candy bars at you no longer a viable contingency plan if you become too terrible?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    BUSTED. Someone's pancreas is not so wounded as we've been lead to believe.

  • SugarFree||

    My blood sugar went south at work. I needed something to get it back up. There was Skittles, the innocent candy of my idyllic childhood, in the machine. Lime, lime, my beloved lime. GREEN APPLE ATTACK! Bastards, bastards all.

  • Almanian!||

    Fuck Skittles.

    Spree. If you can find them. Epic. Mmmm - SPREEEEEEE.

    That is all.

  • ||

    This is correct. Trayvon died for their sins.

  • ||

    But, what happened to all the casual sex that the slutty, slutty women are having, while somehow also simultaneously depriving men of?

    I am in the second cohort, and most of my friends were not out sleeping with random dudes, so I always kind of figured "hookup culture" was bullshit.

  • Pro Libertate||

    No, they were random dudes. They just retroactively made them seem unrandom. There's no honor among sluts, you know.

  • ||

    I don't know, ProL. The related profession that one would typically associate with that behavior is considerably older than, say, lawyerin'. Who's honorable now?

  • Pro Libertate||

    No, no, no, you're confusing sluts with whores. See, whores are capitalists, because they charge money for their services. Sluts are socialists, because they give it away for free.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    I am not conflicted

  • Almanian!||

    PS SFU finished 4th yesterday. I thought their medley was exceptional. The judges thought it was more like 4th.

    NEXT YEAR!

  • JW||

    It's OK Dagney, we've reclassified the hookup culture as a disease, so you can be honest about it, now. It's not your fault!

  • ||

    You just said "most" of your friends. Can I have the numbers of the ones who weren't "most"?

  • sarcasmic||

    I wonder if antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea has anything to do with anything.

  • DJF||

    I wonder if the fact that people like to lie about sex has anything to do with the results of this survey?

  • ||

    Are you suggesting that the first cohort from the 90s exaggerated about the number of sexual partners they've had or that the second cohort from the 2000s is lying about the extant of their sexual experience?

  • Sidd Finch||

    Both?

    Among the 1988-1996 cohort, 65.2 percent reported having sex weekly or more often in the past year, compared to 59.3 percent of college students from the “hookup era.” In addition, 31.9 percent of the earlier cohort reported having more than one sexual partner in the past year, compared with 31.6 percent of contemporary college students.

    The second set doesn't make much sense in light of the first.

  • WTF||

    The second set doesn't make much sense in light of the first.

    It's a self-reported sexual activity survey. What did you expect?

  • Calidissident||

    How?

  • Sidd Finch||

    Subtracting the second number from the first implies that 30% of respondents were in a sexually active monogamous relationship for the entire year preceding the survey. That strikes me as absurdly high for college students and, if true, is including a lot of married/engaged 20 somethings. So either the researchers didn't differentiate between 'traditional love' and 'free love' (which is silly considering the GSS has a bajillion questions) or people are lying about sex (shocked, shocked).

  • Libertymike||

    No news here: What would one expect from the male population weaned upon GE food?

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    "...and the implications of these changes present a new unique set of challenges..."

    What challenges? It's people having sex. Who's business is it who's having sex with who? It's not a problem to be solved. This is what passes as science these days?

  • sarcasmic||

    Was there a consensus? 'Cause if not then it wasn't science.

  • ||

    Pearls must be clutched, dude.

  • Doctor Whom||

    Sex raises a bigger public concern than just about anything else you can do. People on both the socon right and the P.C. left tell me so.

  • R C Dean||

    So, its bipartisan, then.

  • Sidd Finch||

    brief uncommitted sexual encounters between individuals who are not romantic partners or dating each other

    hawt

  • ||

    They way I see there are just some guys and girls out there that find it easy to get laid and that's it. I'm sure everyone here, regardless of their age, knew people when they were in college that had a lot of success with the opposite sex. It's not a generational thing at all that some young people today are the same.

    If anything, the rise of online social media has made people my age bigger social retards that have to rely on texting and IMing to communicate instead of talking on the phone or face to face.

  • ||

    In addition, 31.9 percent of the earlier cohort reported having more than one sexual partner in the past year, compared with 31.6 percent of contemporary college students. Also, 51.7 percent of the earlier group reported having more than two sexual partners after turning 18, compared to 50.5 percent of the 2002-2010 cohort.

    Now, I don't want to be all "hookup culture is/is not real," because I neither know nor really give a fuck, but in my own experience, or rather that of my slutty friends, these statistics would not really tell you shit. I mean, who cares if you have two sexual partners? I'm the prude of my friends, and I've had more than two sexual partners after turning 18. My actual "hookup culture" friends, which is to say most of my friends, had tallied up something more on the order of 20-30-50-etc. partners by age 22 or 23, and at least a dozen or so in the past year. Fucking two different people at some point in all of college does not a hookup culture make, even if everyone is doing it now and no one was before.

  • ||

    Any chance you have their numbers handy?

  • Irish||

    I actually live in the same city as Nicole, so I've got dibs, you son of a bitch.

  • ||

    You know it.

  • ||

    Fucking two different people at some point in all of college does not a hookup culture make, even if everyone is doing it now and no one was before.

    What about two at the same time?

  • ||

    Orgy culture? I'd like to see that make a comeback.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Don't you know what it means to become an orgy guy? It changes everything. I'd have to dress different. I'd have to act different. I'd have to grow a moustache and get all kinds of robes and lotions and I'd need a new bedspread and new curtains I'd have to get thick carpeting and weirdo lighting

  • Rasilio||

    2 People is not an orgy, that's just a 3some. You need at least 5 people to make it an orgy

  • SugarFree||

    Yes. And for all you Eastern European pornographers out there, two dudes and a girl is not a "gangbang." Also, "shy girl" is not a proper descriptor of a young woman having sex while someone films it.

  • William of Purple||

    also a 23 year old with a kid is not a MILF
    and a girl getting it from behind while fondling another chicks heavily tatted tits is not a lesbian

  • ||

    Is this the sort of regulation we can get behind?

  • SugarFree||

    Not calling for regulation, just offering customer feedback.

  • Loki||

    also a 23 year old with a kid is not a MILF

    Technically she could be. If she has kid, then she's a mom, and if she's hot enough that I want to fuck her, then by definition she is a Mom I'd Like to Fuck.

  • ||

    I never said it was an orgy, only that it's a part of orgy culture.

  • SugarFree||

    The more important question: Was it the good kind of threesome or the bad kind of threesome?

  • ||

    My reluctance to even accidently touch uglies with another guy (NTTAWWT) means there is only one type of threesome.

  • SugarFree||

    I agree. Two dicks can never beat four boobs.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    I agree. Two dicks can never beat four boobs.

    ???

    For a minute, I had horrible visions of deviant Japanese shit and Sugarfree, smiling serenely over the mutant-coital carnage like an idiot god.

  • SugarFree||

    Which bothers you more? Shitting Dick Nipples or Nursing HumanCow Babies?

  • ||

    Couldn't. Help. Self....Had. To. Click.

    ...Regret.

  • ||

    The first one, SF. Undoubtedly the first one.

  • ||

    I feel the same way about the other kind of threesome.

  • ||

    Oh, come on Kristen. Two girls is perfectly natural.

  • jesse.in.mb||

    I was having an embarrassingly hard time parsing what SF meant by good and bad kind of threesome. Thank you all for clarifying.

  • SugarFree||

    I was having an embarrassingly hard time parsing what SF meant by good and bad kind of threesome.

    Straights can be so queer sometimes.

  • jesse.in.mb||

    Oh it makes perfect sense. My brain just wasn't defaulting to the spectrum of MMM/MMF/MFF/FFF, I was thinking about the threesomes where you and the other guy systematically ignore the chain-smoking Israeli flight attendant that set the whole thing up because you're having a really good time and he's just sort of getting in the way as the bad sort of threesome.

  • SugarFree||

    To be fair, that does sound like a pretty bad threesome. Right up there with the "the girls completely ignore you and later your girlfriend decides she's a lesbian and kicks you out of the house" threesome.

  • Irish||

    I like the kind where the goat and the midget seem a little suspicious and keep eyeing each other awkwardly while the Mexican pornographer that's filming the whole thing won't stop talking about his cousin Raul.

  • ||

    Goats and midgets NEVER seem to get along.

  • ||

    The only kind of threesome NutraSweet has ever had is a triple cheeseburger, so you needn't worry about understanding, jesse.

  • SugarFree||

    No, I've only had the bad kind of threesome. It was very dark and we stayed on opposite ends. I had a few opportunities for a good threesome, but never could seal the deal. :-(

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    pics or it didn't happen, amirite?

  • Rasilio||

    The only bad kind of 3some I can think of is 3 dudes, and then just because of the lack of boobies present

  • ||

    My actual "hookup culture" friends, which is to say most of my friends, had tallied up something more on the order of 20-30-50-etc. partners by age 22 or 23, and at least a dozen or so in the past year.

    Is that feminist?

  • Loki||

    My actual "hookup culture" friends, which is to say most of my friends, had tallied up something more on the order of 20-30-50-etc. partners by age 22 or 23, and at least a dozen or so in the past year.

    Gon on...

    Fucking two different people at some point...

    Now, do you mean fucking two different people on seperate occasions, or fucking two people at the same time. Either way, I could stand to hear a little more*.

    *Provided we're not talking about a devil's threesome.

  • ||

    my slutty friends

    Tell us more....

  • Irish||

    And if there was an explosion of hook up culture, so what? It's gotten to the point where they don't even bother explaining why I should participate in their moral panic. They just assume everyone should be losing their minds over the latest decay of American morals, but never say why.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    For the children. It's always for the children.

  • ||

    Because sex outside of marriage = bad.

    Also, God.

  • ||

    I'm convinced that a lot of prudes get themselves worked up with stories like this so they have an excuse to think about young people's naked bodies.

  • Calidissident||

    American will explain it right after he explains how much of a pimp he is for (supposedly) being a PUA

  • Paul.||

    I'm so not interested in finding out how much sex other people are having.

  • R C Dean||

    Pix or it didn't happen?

  • sarcasmic||

    There has been a sharp uptick in cases of venereal disease in nursing homes.

    That's right. Wrinkly old studs with prescriptions for Viagra or Cialis are the envy of their peers who are not healthy enough to engage in sexual activity.

    They be banging all the blue haired crones! Hell yeah! These old fucks are getting more pussy than when they were in their twenties!

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "Using survey data of 18 to 25 year-olds from the General Social Survey the researchers compared the responses from a cohort from 1988-1996 to one from 2002-2010."

    Again with the comparisons going back all the way to (this time) 1988? I thought the Sexual Revolution broke out in the 1960s and 1970s - wouldn't relevant comparisons be between youth just before the Sexual Revolution and youth afterwards?

    Were the 80s and 90s some kind of Puritan paradise that you can throw the statistics from this era in the faces of the socons?

    I mean, what do you think socons will say in response to your arguments? "Gosh, we're so embarrassed we put forward the late 80s and early 90s forward as a benchmark of proper sexual behavior"?

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    And even after stacking the deck by comparing one post-Sexual Revolution period to another, there is *still* evidence of a decline:

    "However, [one researcher] said it is true that sexually active college students from the contemporary era were more likely than those from the earlier era to report that one of their sexual partners during the past year was a casual date/pickup (44.4 percent compared to 34.5 percent) or a friend (68.6 percent compared to 55.7 percent), and less likely to report having a spouse or regular sexual partner (77.1 percent compared to 84.5 percent)."

    And that doesn't touch the topic of out-of-wedlock births.

  • ||

    3pm squirrelz!

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    3 pm beers!

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I don't know if it is a culture or just human nature. People want to have sex. Young people just getting into the game (18-25) really want to. Since my ex left me 3 months ago I have "hooked up" with 3 different girls, 2 of which are now "regulars" because I like having regular sex. I haven't met another girl who is worth a relationship with so I am just doing the sex part when I can. People do this. Some are all about random sex, some are not into it. It's not a culture, it's just people doing what a big part of their brain is wired to do.

    People seem to then grow out of it because they find somebody they want to spend time with or other moral commitments, such as children, can get in the way of living like that. And women start worrying about their biological clock and decide they need to settle down.

    Of course this is just my opinion. I'm 26 now and spent 6 years in college.

  • sarcasmic||

    Is this related?

    Man, 70, has 10cm steel kitchen fork removed from inside his PENIS after sexual adventure goes wrong

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hea.....wrong.html

  • sarcasmic||

    FTA:

    According to the report, typical symptoms after having inserted a foreign object into the male urethra include lower abdominal pain, penile pain, swelling of glans or body of penis, inflammation of the urethra, dyspareunia (pain during sex), blood-stained urine, pyuria (pus in urine), increased urinary frequency, inability to urinate and fever.

    I'm glad that's all cleared up.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "typical symptoms after having inserted a foreign object into the male urethra"

    If I just answered "bad stuff," can I be spared the details? *Shudder.*

  • Irish||

    Between that story and the study cited in this article, it seems that the really freaky stuff is happening at retirement homes, not colleges.

  • jesse.in.mb||

    I'm a bit curious what this man has done to himself over the years that he can fit a fork in there. I'm probably better off not knowing though.

  • Rasilio||

    Where is the research into the hook up culture of participants in internet Forums?

    I mean I don't know much about hookups in College, but I know that I've seen tons of "hook ups" between people who frequent various chatrooms, mailing lists, and bulletin boards and it cuts right across all age cohorts (well at least Boomers on down, not too many 70 year olds hooking up on the net that I've met)

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I know more than a few sleazy guys who go on sleazy dating websites to hook up.. and it works. I don't know if I could do that. It's too sleazy and pre-meditated.

  • sarcasmic||

    All you have to do is lower your standards to a step below John's and you can get tons of internet pussy.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    John does love teh fattyz.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I live in a town right now of 130,000 and 3 colleges. A college or even "towny" bar provides all the opportunity right now.

    It is actually a hookup heaven, especially when all the student come back in september, if you have any confidence and aren't completely ugly. I don't have much experience anywhere else, but if everywhere is like this, I don't know how people have trouble getting laid at all.

    I'm only 5'6" and don't have much of a problem if I get the nerve up to be an asshole. I wonder if Jezebel has ever written about how girls much prefer assholes over nice guys when they want to fuck?

  • sarcasmic||

    I lived in a city that was home to a college that never fails to make Playboy's top ten party schools every year. I know what you mean.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Yeah it makes me never want to move, or at least not until I'm married. Probably a good idea to move at that point.

  • SugarFree||

    I wonder if Jezebel has ever written about how girls much prefer assholes over nice guys when they want to fuck?

    They deny the phenomenon exists. Despite all the empirical evidence.

  • Lord Humungus||

    what's the name of these websites? You know, just for research purposes only.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    plenty of fish seems to be a popular one. Website if pof.com, reason won't let me hyperlink to it.

  • Irish||

    Plenty of Fish is gross. It's primarily fat girls that spend an inordinate amount of time taking selfies in the bathroom mirror.

    I mean, if you're into that it's cool, I guess.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    It was a friend of a friend of mine man, come on.

    hah No I would have to be pretty down on my luck and desperate to try that. I don't know if I could ever be that desperate actually. Internet porn may be better.

  • Lord Humungus||

    so it should be called Plenty o' Whales?

  • SugarFree||

    Whales aren't fish, dumbass.

  • Lord Humungus||

    but they're more fun to harpoon, thou who cannot consume sucrose.

  • jesse.in.mb||

    I thought y'all just used OK Cupid if you're looking to date and Match(dot)com/eHarmony if you're looking to marry.

    Have your people figured out location aware hookup apps? I heard Blendr sucked balls and wasn't actually geared toward getting you laid.

  • Irish||

    Ok Cupid is far superior to Plenty of Fish. I've met some pretty cool girls on there.

    Unfortunately, Ok Cupid also is home to a very large number of pretentious nerds who talk about how artsy they are and claim to be Bisexual even though they aren't.

    I say 'claim to be bisexual' because I don't think that there are as many bisexuals in Chicago as there are people claiming to be bisexuals in Chicago on Ok Cupid.

  • ||

    Yeah, the hipster quotient is high on OK Cupid, but I love that most of the content is user-generated. I met the squeeze via OK Cupid. He's pretty high-quality.

  • William of Purple||

    adultfriendfinder

    chaturbate.com

  • robc||

    You mean like sloopy and banjos?

  • William of Purple||

    Like Sevo and Tony?

  • Lord Humungus||

    I always thought I was getting the short end of the stick in the "getting laid" stakes, but the grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence.

    I recently hung out with my best friend from my childhood. We were talking about what happened to this girl.. and that girl. Then he commented to my wife, "LH never had problems getting girls. Me, on the other hand..."

    I was like wtf? I always thought I was the miserable boob who wasn't connecting with the chicks.

  • ||

    Speaking of random sex: if you wanted to put crown molding in a room, but the air vents are right up against the ceiling, how would you work around that?

  • Lord Humungus||

    make your walls taller.

  • ||

    Also speaking of random sex: amazon has been down for almost an hour. I wonder how much each hour of downtime costs them?

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's impossible. They must be boycotting you.

  • ||

    Well, I don't have to buy a fake Tiffany lamp from them! Etsy has a good selection, too!

  • Lord Humungus||

    I used to use the folks for my lighting needs
    http://thebrightspot.com/

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Did it just come back? It worked for me

  • ||

    Yep - just came back. It was down for close to an hour. I bet they got DDOS'ed.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    They refused to comply with the NSA for an hour

  • Lord Humungus||

    it must have been my search of Lydia Lunch albums. Boy, she's put on the pounds lately.

  • Live Free or Diet||

    In dollars or eBay dominance?

  • canuck53||

    Hook up culture is not new. 1988-1996 was prime hook up culture. i was in college in 93-97 and we had hook up culture then and we were much cooler, drank more and did more drugs than the pussies in college today

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