Peter Suderman | September 16, 2009
Health-care reformers just got their best break in months: The CBO has released a preliminary score of the health-care bill put forward by Max Baucus, and their analysis claims it's easy on the wallet. According to the CBO, the bill, if enacted exactly as is, will reduce the deficit by $49 billion over the first ten years, and continue to reduce the deficit over the ensuing decade.
For most people, those up-front deficit numbers will be the big takeaway. But I think the key lines come toward the end:
These projections assume that the proposals are enacted and remain unchanged throughout the next two decades, which is often not the case for major legislation. For example, the sustainable growth rate (SGR) mechanism governing Medicare’s payments to physicians has frequently been modified (either through legislation or administrative action) to avoid reductions in those payments.
To get the result they did, CBO assumed that cuts in Medicare
payment rates, which comprise the bulk of the plan's alleged
savings, will actually happen, even though, as the report admits,
Congress has been loath to make those cuts in the past. It's true
that the Baucus plan, which creates a commission to figure out how
to cut Medicare costs, sets up a slightly more robust framework for
cost-cutting than currently exists. But that commission still only
gets to make recommendations, and Congress still has the power to
block them.
But I suspect, however, that such concerns will be dismissed.
Despite the CBO's caution that
their "estimates are all subject to substantial uncertainty," the
score, and not concerns about assumptions and methodology, will be
what people remember.
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Congress has been loathe to make those cuts in the past
ObGrammar:
You mean "loath." "Loath" is an adjective, meaning "reluctant."
"Loathe" is a transitive verb, meaning "to hate intensely."
Although I guess by these days you can spell the adjective "loathe"
with only some pedantic complaint, in the same way as you can
pronounce "forte" like it's Italian as "for-tay."
Greg Mankiw compares the plan to someone promising that "this time" their plan is really to go and work out at the gym, so it's okay to have that extra dessert since they'll still lose weight in the long run.
Thacker: Thanks for the correction. This is why you shouldn't blog quickly, especially when you're angry. Fixed!
Angry? Sorry to hear that.
Note that no one actually likes this bill. That's because no one is
happy with a bill that's actually paid for. So I'm not sure how
good news this is for the reform camp, since they have members
swearing not to vote for this.
Thacker: Angry... maybe not quite the best word to have used. But certainly irritated.
Big shock. Hell, everyone knew that even the most grandiose plan could look budget neutral if you just raised taxes enough and made enough people go into their own pockets to pay for it. Baucus is just the first one to show us what that might look like.
...creates a commission to figure out how to cut Medicare costs,...
AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH! If this were a business, there would be a
FUCKING PERMANENT "commission to figure out how to cut Medicare
costs!!!"
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT COMPETITIVE BUSINESSES DO!!!! THEY PROVIDE A
FUCKING SERVICE FOR LESS COST THAN THEIR COMPETITORS. They don't
sit around throwing money randomly at things like POO-FLINGING
MONKEYS FOR FORTY FUCKING YEARS and then set up a COMMISSION to
FIGURE OUT how to FUCKING CUT COSTS. THEY WOULD BE FUCKINGBROKE if
they couldn't just STEAL their ASSRAPING revenue from the PEONS who
are FORCED to "buy" their SHITTY-ASS "service."
AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I'm gonna say that db beats Suderman in the expressing
anger department.
Suderman gets angry? Misspells "loath".
db gets angry? Types like a pirate.
Very interesting. Definitely gives the plan a temporary boost.
It's really sad when a policy that balances or reduces the budget
is shocking. Common sense would dictate that EVERY POLICY SHOULD AT
BEST KEEP THE BUDGET BALANCED. I appreciate Baucus at least moving
in this direction.
However, I watched the press conference and many of the actual
policy details were fairly nauseating.
CBO assumed that cuts in Medicare payment rates, which
comprise the bulk of the plan's alleged savings, will actually
happen
Did the CBO also factor in the fact that providers will offset any
cuts in Medicare payment rates by charging more for non-Medicare
services thus obviating any gains at all from that little bit of
accounting trickeration?
Common sense would dictate that EVERY POLICY SHOULD AT
BEST WORST KEEP THE BUDGET
BALANCED.
FTFY.
Let us list the was in which the Baucus bill is an absulute
utter horror of a monstrosity.
1. Insurance mandate - everyone will now be FORCED to buy
insurance, whether they want it or not.
2. Said insurance will be heavily regulated as to content, and all
plans would be required to cover maternity (even if you are a man),
dental, prescription drugs, vision and preventive care. In other
words, the "mandatory minimum" would cover virtually
everything.
3. Insurance companies will be forced to take all comers, hence
your premiums will be higher, and be used to subsidize healthcare
for people who are already sick. This is stealth socialism.
4. Employers would be penalized for not offering employees
healthcare coverage, further entrenching the perverse link between
employment and insurance.
5. Rather than try to sever the link between employment and
insurance, the plan would set up subsidized "exchanges" as a
contrived mechanism to attempt to mitigate against some of the
perverse effects of the employer based system.
6. A whole host of new taxes and fees would be introduced, some
with the explicit intent of fucking over anyone with health
insurance that is "too good". As if the subsidization of insurance,
and the forced stealth subsidization of those with preexisting
conditions under mandatory insurance doesn't fuck us over
enough.
7. The plan makes no serious attempt to control costs, all it does is (effectively) impose price controls on Medicare payments. It does NOT address the underlying causes of cost escalation (the effort to pay for everyone's health care without rationing), but actualy exacerbates them by increasing demand for health care services. And as such it will be an utter failure in controlling costs.
Shorter Hazel:
The plan forces everyone to pay for broad coverage they don't want,
and for broad coverage for other people, without making the
slightest effort at global cost control.
Prediction: massive cost increases, massive premium increases,
massive migration to some kind of (stealth) public option, massive
deficits.
Very interesting. Theoretically, this plan could be made into an
easy gateway for individual coverage.
According to Time magazine "companies with no more than 10
employees who earn an average of less than $20,000 a year would be
eligible for the full credit. In 2011 and 2012, the full credit
would be up to 35% of a small business's contribution, and starting
in 2013, employers that purchase their policies through the state
exchanges could claim a tax credit for two years of up to 50% of
their contribution."
So if I organize my own "proprietorship" doing random small odd
jobs, and I provide myself health insurance under that company,
would I not qualify for a tax credit, eliminating the individual
vs. employer discrepancy? I'm wondering if it distinguishes between
a proprietorship and a corporation.
The plan is pretty terrible, but this does look like a pretty nice
loophole, worst case scenario.
is there any perspicacious sort around here who can explain how the baucus plan differs from the obama plan? they sound quite a bit alike, to me.
i>So if I organize my own "proprietorship" doing random small
odd jobs, and I provide myself health insurance under that company,
would I not qualify for a tax credit, eliminating the individual
vs. employer discrepancy? I'm wondering if it distinguishes between
a proprietorship and a corporation.
Well, you will be forced to buy insurance that covers dental,
vision, prescription drugs, and preventive care, from a company
that is forced to provide health care for people with any and all
preexisting conditions, and which will be prevented from rationing
such care.
So it's pretty much guarenteed that no matter WHO you buy it from,
the price will be exhorbitant.
Mandatory coverage is a tax. It doesn't matter whether it's called a premium, a fee, a penalty - or some other euphemism - it is a tax. It is a tax on simply being alive, and this is true even if the tax on some is paid by others. Welcome to serfdom, my fellow peons.
"Despite the CBO's caution that
their "estimates are all subject to substantial uncertainty," the
score, and not concerns about assumptions and methodology, will be
what people remember."
That's why whenever any of these plan's boosters starts citing the
CBO as "proof" of their position people need to be reminded of the
CBO's abysmal track record in projecting Medicare costs:
At the start of Medicare they predicted the annual cost in 1990
would be $12 B and it actually came in at $107 B.
db for Congress! No one would even remember Joe Wilson calling the emperor naked once they observed db's rant. Michael Emerling called it "macho flashing," and sometimes it can be quite entertaining.
Having some personal experience living under conditions like
these (I'm in Massachusetts), let me pose the following
brain-teaser:
1. Vis-a-vis mandatory coverage, a high bar for "minimum" benefits,
and no risk adjustment of premiums, we should expect costs and
premiums to skyrocket.
2. Those who go without insurance will have to pay some kind of
fine, which is unlikely to be as high as the cost of premiums in
the long run.
3. Given (1) and (2), who the f--- is going to be dumb enough to
buy insurance unless they're seriously ill? If you can't be charged
a higher premium or denied coverage based on pre-existing illness,
and the premiums are really high, why buy "insurance" (in the
strict sense of the word)? The most sensible approach will be to
enroll only when you're on death's door, get others to pay for most
of your care, and then disenroll from the plan as fast as you can
afterward.
4. This is sustainable how?
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