Damon W. Root | July 23, 2009
Here's one for the "you can't make this stuff up" file. A friend toiling in the academy forwarded me a pdf copy of Peter Ranis' article "Eminent Domain: Unused Tool for American Labor?", which was published in the June 2007 issue of WorkingUSA: The Journal of Labor and Society. As Ranis claims (spoiler alert!):
The time is ripe for a broad-based coalition of legislatures, community interests, labor unions, and social movements to promote the use of eminent domain to expropriate with compensation enterprises in danger of being abandoned and moved offshore by their owners.
Expropriate! To answer your question, yes, this is a real article. Ranis, an emeritus professor of political science at the City of New York Graduate Center, apparently hasn't bothered to read the friend of the court brief (pdf) filed by the NAACP in Kelo v. City of New London, which correctly points out that "the burden of eminent domain has and will continue to fall disproportionately upon racial and ethnic minorities, the elderly, and the economically disadvantaged." I'm guessing Ranis also hasn't heard about the smell or the birds that have taken over New London's eminent domain debacle.
For some of the many reasons why eminent domain abuse is bad for all Americans, even lefties like Prof. Ranis, read Reason's eminent domain coverage.
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This shitbag needs the same solution Bruce Willis had for Bin Laden in Planet Terror.
The Journal of Labor and Society.
This is why I have so little respect for academia.
Also, Ranis? More like Penis.
And to counter this, the owners should fire all of the employees, sell off any assets that can in time, burn the rest, and plow the land with industrial salts.
Ranis? More like Penis.
That is an insult to dicks everywhere. I expected classier from
you, Warty.
"And to counter this, the owners should fire all of the
employees, sell off any assets that can in time, burn the rest, and
plow the land with industrial salts."
I would pay good money to see this happen.
That is an insult to dicks everywhere. I expected classier
from you, Warty.
Poor dicks....always getting shit on.
Didn't Baltimore try to take the Colts under ED before they left for Indy, with that little bit of info left off the story of poor, slighted Baltimore?
Is this guy's name really pronounced "Peter Anus"? I mean, Peter Ranis - say it out loud.
"the burden of eminent domain has and will continue to fall disproportionately upon racial and ethnic minorities"
Irrelevant - it's unjust to do it to Whitey McMoneybags, and it's
unjust to do it to poor, black folks.
promote the use of eminent domain
I guess I shouldn't be, but I'm stunned that this phrase exists.
Does not compute.
What's funny is that this guy seems to think that stopping firms
from going overseas is a matter of seizing the factory
equipment.
Don't most companies that move overseas build new
facilities at those locations, or scrap or sell their domestic
equipment anyway? Since the overseas move is usually accompanied by
a step-up in procedures and automation?
Basically what this guy is proposing is that the legislatures
subsidize companies that are moving operations overseas by paying
tax dollars for used industrial equipment that was about to be
scrapped anyway.
"I'm guessing Ranis also hasn't heard about the smell or the
birds that have taken over New London's eminent domain
debacle."
My guess is that, like 99.99% of government office holders, Ranis
hasn't read or simply doesn't care to think about the meaning of
the Constitution's "Takings" clause. I suspect that even Alexander
Hamilton and other "centrist" founders would be shocked at the
abuse of E. D.
Is this guy's name really pronounced "Peter
Anus"?
Fuck. I missed the lowest of low-hanging fruit. Fuck!
Warty, you're losing your edge. You'll never beat Epi as most anally-fixated that way.
What's funny is that this guy seems to think that stopping
firms from going overseas is a matter of seizing the factory
equipment.
The equipment or the entire company?
You'll never beat Epi as most anally-fixated that
way.
Don't encourage him; he has no chance and will just be
disappointed.
Epi, need I remind you of the Judge Roy Moore story? You're not even close to being king.
Basically what this guy is proposing is that the
legislatures subsidize companies that are moving operations
overseas by paying tax dollars for used industrial equipment that
was about to be scrapped anyway.
He's probably thinking more about the absurd but inevitable
Government-Motors scenario of subsidies and nationalization
required to preserve the jobs which have been created/saved. The
worker's coop, or whatever institution gets endowed with the fruits
of eminent domain acquisition, presumably have to run the place as
a business after the former owners are evicted.
The Means of Production can't very well seize themselves--they
can't operate themselves, either.
What's funny is that this guy seems to think that stopping firms from going overseas is a matter of seizing the factory equipment.
That is because he believes that the only reason the
company is only failing to be profitable where it is and doing what
it is, is that the greedy Wall Street fat cats in their top hats
are taking too much profit.
Once the workers own the means of production all that will be
fixed.
Really.
When I meet a really dedicated union advocate, I always ask them
why the union doesn't just buy a lot of stock in the parent
company. Given enough time, they could end up with first a swing
vote, and eventually a controlling share.
Then everything would be just peachy keen, right?
I mean, if I take their rhetoric seriously, that seems to be a
sensible strategy.
Basically what this guy is proposing is that the
legislatures subsidize companies that are moving operations
overseas by paying tax dollars for used industrial equipment that
was about to be scrapped anyway.
No shit, Fluffy. Any company planning a move overseas would purely
love to be able to unload the plant they are closing on some poor
sucker.
So, Big Corp loves this idea, Big Union loves this idea - I'd say
its a done deal. A win-win for the People Who Matter. The only
loser? Why, everybody's favorite patsy, the taxpayer.
I hate to raise this spectre, but how long until *domain names* are subject to takeover under "eminent domain"? 8-(
promote the use of eminent domain to expropriate
Jesus H Knobgobbler on a unicorn.
I hate to raise this spectre, but how long until *domain
names* are subject to takeover under "eminent domain"?
8-(
Only the owners of eminent domain names need to worry.
Yes, let's mock and insult this commie douche but not forget for a minute that guys like him are really starting to get the upper hand in America.
Fluffy,
As a point of fact when my company moved its automotive parts
manufacturing we shipped just about all of the machining for those
parts to Mexico. Why buy new machines when you can just crate the
tools to the new facilities in the other country. It works both
ways. Last year we imported machines that were being used in
Ireland. I guess the Euro was getting too expensive.
Not to say this legislation will stop companies from moving
operations overseas or cause other problems but I'm willing to
guess that it's not that unusual for companies to move their
manufacturing that they've already paid for overseas.
Maybe so, H Man, but if you can get fair market value for your
old tooling in situ, then why pay to ship it?
The equipment or the entire company?
Good question, Johnny. Given that we are apparently dealing with a
commie prick here, when he says "enterprise" he probably means the
entire company.
That was some of the most retarded stupid from a smart person I
have read in a long time.
While this avalanche of legislative initiatives purport a newfound interest in the rights of small property owners, it really argues for the reassertion of the inalienable defense of private property whatever the origins of the need to assert the rights of public interest and public collective ends.
The state or municipality would expropriate the factory or enterprise with compensation to the former owners and cede it to the workers as a grant or, if it was found more prudent, require the workers to repay the state, after an interim grace period, in low interest installments over a twenty-year period.
The eminent domain process provides the warning shot to corporations that the state will not abide by a corporation milking an operation on behalf of an overseas or out-of-state branch or abide by a purposeful disinvestment or decapitalization preceding a planned withdrawal from the community.
Jesus I can't link anymore. The fact this turd teaches is
scary.
Surely the person reviewing the article should have said
"according to the US constitution, when private property is taken
there has to be suitable financial compensation
so the state nationalizes a factory,
gives the owners money for it,
the owners setup a new factory and make a cheaper product than the
nationalized factory.
nationalized factory sells no products
paper rejected "
Reviewing arts papers would be so much more fun than reviewing
science papers
When I meet a really dedicated union advocate, I always ask
them why the union doesn't just buy a lot of stock in the parent
company. Given enough time, they could end up with first a swing
vote, and eventually a controlling share.
Because that would require putting up their own money. It's much
easier to use the power of government to steal from their
employer.
You might ask the same question about people who whine about "stop
X from being built near Y!". Just buy the property and then keep it
empty if you don't want anything to be built on it. That would cost
the whiner something, of course. It's cheaper to steal the benefit
of empty land for yourself and make the current owner pay for
it.
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