Nick Gillespie | December 30, 2008
Who killed the great municipal wifi bandwagon of the early '00s, when every city worth its name was going to supply free (free, I tells ya!) or cheap wireless service for every resident? George Mason prof and Reason contributor Thomas W. Hazlett has answers in a provocative piece at Ars Technica. A snippet:
In 2005, Philadelphia's Chief Information Technology Officer, Dianah Neff, lectured: "Just as with the roads of old, if broadband bypasses you, you become a ghost town." The Philly CITO surely did not know that, by 2008, well over 100 million U.S. subscribers would be linked to the Internet via advanced data networks, wired and wireless, virtually every one of them supplied by unregulated private competitors, none via municipal wireless. So, yeah, Philadelphia. We get it.
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WiGLE it, just a little
bit.
WiGLE (Wireless Geographic Logging Engine)is a nifty site showing
you just where the open points are.
WiFi never presented any of the rationales that the government usually uses to justify socializing some service. Unlike traditional broadcast technology, multiple WiFi bases can operate in the same zone without interference. There wasn't a case in which the government had to step in other than the impulse to earn votes by giving stuff away for "free".
Public WiFi makes more sense than 95% of the state's usual
activities.
It's a bit like public lighting. I would prefer private roads to
public ones, but since we have public roads I think it's
appropriate for there to be public street lighting to make those
roads more safe, more pleasant to use, etc. Having public WiFi
would make other public spaces more safe, more pleasant to use,
etc. as well.
That's fine for the ultra-wealthy CEO's making millions a year, but what about the other 97% of America living in grinding poverty? What about the homeless? Who provides their WiFi service?
The joe imitator even used a very similar email address. But the hyperbole totally ruins it. The best parodies are closer to the mark.
You're right, thoreau. Too much outrage, not enough smugness. We'll tone down the exclamation points next time.
High speed wireless internet access declared an "fundamental
right." Wow.
I'd like to take this a step further and declare several currently
non-existent technologies as fundamental rights. Furthermore, not
having access to fully-immersive virtual reality, unlimited space
elevator trips, and frozen cloned bodies I can download my aging
mind into is a violation of my rights.
Wow.
It shows a clearly high amount of obsession with me to be imitating me in threads I haven't posted in yet.
You get what you pay for. Here in Mountain View, California,
Google has blanketed the entire town with free wifi. My apartment
complex also offers free wifi. But in both cases it sucks. I still
pay for a DSL connection.
The free wifi is insecure, because it's too much thinking for the
general public to figure out how to connect to a WPA secured
service. Ditto for the wifi connections in hotels. You also get
poor overlap, high contention, and otherwise poor service.
I refuse to believe "Joe" above is the real joe until he tells me which hand he holds it with.
Private companies, given exclusive rights and specific
social obligations, would hang those radios from street lights,
linking local citizens to the Internet via high-speed connections.
Presto! Government solves the digital divide.
I think there's something else going on here. These private
companies have to realize that soon enough somebody is going to
transmit child porn over the network. And then a headline-seeking
politician or prosecutor is going to go after them. It's not worth
it for them. The government is eventually going to fuck them.
The innovation was hailed as "world changing" by public interest advocates who trumpeted "WiFi for the people." Venture capitalists dusted off their dot.com PowerPoint slides, showing the enormous opportunity. "Ultimately, it all boils down to disruptive economics," touted (PDF) one VC at a 2005 trade show. "The history of technology shows that Cheap and Good Enough always wins over expensive and purpose-built."
Let's not start suckin' eachother's dicks yet, gentlemen.
There was this technology invented years ago that municipalities
didn't provide for free: phones. Nope, cities were sprinkled with
them, but you had to put a dime in them to use them. Why anyone
thought (well, why anyone with an MBA or Public Administration
making six figures thought) this would be a jim-dandy idea, I have
no idea.
The other problem with large public wifi networks is it's fucking
hard to make work. Anyone making $48,000 a year who's had to put
one in an enterprise setting learns that lesson real... real
fucking fast. It's not cheap, and it's not easy. And it requires
support and massaging. WiFi, despite what the Doctor who's
demanding it in his office will tell you, is fantastically easy to
DOS. That's "Denial of Service" for those of you making six
figures.
And once you start putting public wifi spots out there, with
broadcasting SIDs, every bored teenager with a year or more worth
of haxxing skillz will start dropping your...ahem--"cheap,
off-the-shelf radios" like bad transmissions in a demolition
derby.
Across the country, San Francisco officials actually boast about using local regulatory authority to deny even a single new cellular base station over the past several years.
so much for the west being a free-wheeling high-tech zone. That
fuckwad Greg Nickels is doing the exact.
same. thing.
I find it odd that the article doesn't mention Minneapolis which
completed its WiFi network about 6 months ago (although there is a
gap or two thanks to some light poles not being strong enough for
the repeaters and the normal political issues with our park
board).
So its basically a bitch fest with no real balance - not unusual
for Reason to quote from...
The FCC, seemingly impressed with the near-infinite hype-to-payoff ratio of muni wi-fail, is launching a federal version.
This is genius! Hey I know, the post office could start providing
free e-mail addresses to everyone in the country. You could walk to
your local post office, sign on with a terminal, and print your
emails out, then drive home and read them.
I find it odd that the article doesn't mention Minneapolis
which completed its WiFi network about 6 months ago
Not
entirely complete.
Billed as the shining example of a municipal Wi-Fi network that works, the Minneapolis network has run into a glitch, much like most of the nation's other municipal Wi-Fi networks, many of which have folded.
However, I will give you some points on the Twin-cities wifi:
The city network is more than 80% deployed and is aiming at reaching 95% of Minneapolis' citizens when the network is completed. The city is paying $1.3 million a year to support the service, and its city departments will use the network. Individual consumers have been signing up for the service at $19.95 a month.
Pretty pricey stuff. They're walking a thin line. They're charging
enough to probably actually support the network, but will they
attract enough subscribers to actually make it cost-effective. My
prediction is not only no, but hell no.
But we'll have to wait and see. Especially when you can go into a
Starbucks or dozens of other places within the...you know,
municipality and get free or lower cost wifi.
So its basically a bitch fest with no real balance - not
unusual for Reason to quote from...
The existence of a muni wi-fi that actually works doesn't mean the
article "lacks balance". Besides, its only been six months.....wait
until they stop maintaining the network and see how wonderful it
is.
I've lived in and spent time in a number of cities that tried to
make muni wi-fi work from small (Columbia, SC) to large (Portland,
OR). I've never seen it work adequately, let alone well. The real
fun begins when the network stops working or you can't get a
connection or whatever. Have fun finding someone to call and
particularly finding someone to call who a) cares and b) can do
anything about it.
In any case, those of us here in Portland would like to thank the
Twin Cities for the "Brandon Roy for Randy Foye" trade. Brandon is
doing pretty well here in The Rose City and sends his regards
:-)
Individual consumers have been signing up for the service at
$19.95 a month.
So a free municipal wi-fi service that people have to pay for? That
is *brilliant*! That's so much better than, say, paying T-Mobile
$24.95 a month for access at thousands of locations all over the
country! Let alone being able to access free wi-fi at countless
coffee shops and other businesses....
Kevin McHale must be a consultant on the Twin Cities Wi-Fi
project--only a visionary that would trade a future Hall of Famer
in Brandon Roy for a decently talented but unspectacular player in
Foye could work up such a brilliant scheme...
so much for the west being a free-wheeling high-tech zone.
That fuckwad Greg Nickels is doing the exact. same.
thing.
What a genius! Of course it's not like there's any sort of major
hi-tech industry in the Seattle area that would need good cellphone
coverage ;-)
Joe | December 30, 2008, 7:38pm | #
It shows a clearly high amount of obsession with me to be imitating
me in threads I haven't posted in yet.
FWIW, wasn't me. I don't wreck threads until the train is already
tilting and careening into a brick wall.
What I want to know is:
Just who in hell is responsible for connecting Philadephia to
the net in the first place?
Some things are better not done.
my small town has downtown wifi but you have to pay for it so no one uses it. when I was lost in Philly I used private wifi that was open access to get where I needed to go. private open acess wifi has killed the need for welfare wifi.
The Freeman had a little about municipal wifi back in October
here:
http://www.fee.org/pdf/the-freeman/0810FreemanTitch.pdf
Yeah, speaking of Comcast, how can a private company provide
shitty service, raise prices at four times the rate of inflation
and post massive profits? Quick, to the Reason Cave, Robin!
Now, eventually "the market" and the advance of technology will
find a way to work around the last mile monopolists like Comcast
and Verizon. In the mean time, a fair number of consumers are going
to take a serious bend over, welcome to Turkish prison
experience.
The problem with muni wi-fi was two fold. Too much hype and a
mediocre technology. If government wants to build something, build
fiber optic cable to "the premises." If the government could use
the public road/water/sewer model, it would work. The problem?
Someone from the government will screw it up. Instead of just
providing bandwidth and leasing it to the lowest bidder, they'll
try to control it, thus crapping it up. Of course, the hate for
Comcast, Verizon or the government is pretty close horse race on a
given day.
Unregulated??!! These networks will perish in flames, they will taste violent death!
Try not to forget that municipal Wifi equals cheap, wireless
cameras EVERYWHERE.
At least, that's how some company put it to a local city council
outside of Pittsburgh. Cheap, easy-to-install cameras on every
street corner.
And yes, covering city council meetings are why my former
journalism years are my former journalism years...
i typically use the wide-assed open Apple network of some
neighbor while at home. Ought to drop that cable connection
eh?
ATT covers my area and the places I travel pretty well too.
Thinking about just getting that instead.
the government really needs to get involved in this to mmake it
safe.
JOG,
Yep, when corporations get involved things just go to hell. If only
the city public utility workers would put together a network then
it would work fine. Evil corporations keep messing up the
world.
when I was lost in Philly I used private wifi that was open
access to get where I needed to go.
Interesting. I use this public
wifi whenever I'm lost.
One of the few things the government did right. And it's a true
public resource. No one tells me "You can't be in here, this is
public property!"
The main problem with free wi-fi: How do you know it's really a municipal access point you're connecting to?
The whole *pervasive free wifi all over the city* thing is
pretty stupid and not needed. There are too many open residential
access points that can be freeloaded on.
In Cambridge, MA, I used to see a guy, at 1am, sitting on the bench
outside of a closed cafe that has free wifi, presumably using their
signal.
I do think there's a case to be made for setting it up in and
around public buildings, public transit stations, etc. It'd be nice
to have a bit of wifi access at bus shelters or on buses
themselves, but that's probably asking too much.
In my house, I have access to 4 wireless networks:
1. Mine
2. Another that is encrypted so I cant connect to it. Yet.
3. One I havent tried yet.
4. One named linksys. Yeah, its wide open.
"Two Three words..... Comcast &
Money Corruption, hubris and incompetence."
FTFY
2. Another that is encrypted so I cant connect to it.
Yet.
robc--My wireless is WPA2/AES with a 19 character passcode of lower
and upper case letters and numbers. (I thought about using special
characters too, but passed.) Have at it!
Mayor John Street triumphantly announced that "the
initiative will turn Philadelphia into the nation's largest WiFi
hotspot and help improve education, bridge the digital divide,
enhance neighborhood development, and reduce the costs of
government."
And free ponies for all Teh Children!
Really. A brand-new, expensive government program, not paid for by
any user fees whatsoever, is going to REDUCE the costs of
government.
Is math that hard that politicians can't grasp it? Or do they grasp
it, but think their constituents are too stupid to figure out that
they're lying?
prolofeed,
it is always about the three letter word, jobs.
Good call on mentioning GPS. I get pretty tired of the knee-jerk
libertarian reaction that government can't do a fucking thing
right. I'm really delighted that "free minds" is seen by some as "I
hope you don't mind when I use your free wifi." Yeah, I know,
people should make sure routers are password protected. And people
should lock their doors... but if they don't, do you have the right
to walk into their house, sit down and watch TV? Hey, they're
already paying for the cable box, the heat and the sofa. If they
are stupid, they deserve to have strangers sitting in the living
room... right? Hey, and it's not stealing music since someone
somewhere originally bought the CD.
Sure, government may fuck up "free" wifi... but they don't do a bad
job with water and sewer service. I don't think building and
maintaining a fiber optic network is exponentially more difficult.
Personally, I have no objection to a public broadband pipe into my
house where I can choose from any number of private ISPs.
i like this JOyG fella too. if we had a more progressive society everybody could share heat.
My wireless is WPA2/AES with a 19 character passcode of
lower and upper case letters and numbers
Im not counting on them having that good of a passcode. :)
Then again, they named their network "incognito", so maybe it is
properly* protected.
*not that any wifi is really secure. More than secure enough for
most home and business purposes, though.
LOL, I'll tell ya what happened, big corporations (ISPs) is what
happened. Billions of dollars are at stake so it will never happen.
Its the American way!
Jess
http://www.privacy-tools.at.tc
jose, you are not good with analogies. if a person is broadcasting his wifi openly without a password into the public airwaves how can that be theft? many open wifi hotspots are intended for people other than the owner to use anyways. but even if they didn't they should put a password on it or stop broadcasting their wifi signal to the public. it is not like going into someones house and watching their tv, its more like if a person put their TV in a window and someone was standing on the sidewalk watching it. gps isn't that great, the galileo navigation service europe is getting will be more accurate than the gps civilians get.
So robc, you're going to brute force hack your neighbor's wireless router? You have a lot of patience. Maybe you should try some social engineering instead. Or, you could not bother.
I'm under the impression that most people set up their wireless
networks with WEP, not WPA. WEP is hackable. Coincidentally, I just
helped my brother set up his wireless network and gave him the
lecture about making sure that it was secure and recommending
WPA2.
I can spot 3-4 other networks from my house. I'm not interested in
hacking them, of course, but I bet they are of the usual "not that
secure" variety.
if you google wpa crack you might find some interesting toys for the new year
Security is about not being the low-hanging fruit more than about having near-perfect security, which is not practical.
"This is genius! Hey I know, the post office could start
providing free e-mail addresses to everyone in the country. You
could walk to your local post office, sign on with a terminal, and
print your emails out, then drive home and read them."
Actually I remember around 1998 or so the Post Office was actually
talking about giving every American a Post office email
address.
Actually I remember around 1998 or so the Post Office was actually talking about giving every American a Post office email address.
It's a raging success here in France. :)
Well, Hacha, I'll try a better analogy. My kid leaves her bike
on the sidewalk... a public sidewalk. I guess it's not really
"stealing" if some other kid takes it. People who set up a little
wireless router in a home are not generally doing so to provide the
neighbors and drive bys with free Internet access. And speaking of
crappy analogies, looking onto someone's property from a public way
is a little different than trespassing onto an unsecured wireless
access to consume broadband access someone else is paying
for.
And yeah, the European GPS is going to be really sweet since I'd
like to know exactly how many centimeters before my turn onto
Sarcasm Lane.
Personally, I have no objection to a public broadband pipe
into my house where I can choose from any number of private
ISPs.
How many different water and sewer companies do you have to choose
from?
High-speed internet as a basic right, comparable to water and
electricity? Interesting thesis.
Public pipe with private ISPs, eh? Like Compuserve, Prodigy and
AOL? Good times, good times...
Right on, Jose. Some libertarians throw the idea of private
property to the four winds when that property is not physical and
easy to steal anonymously.
if a person is broadcasting his wifi openly without a password
into the public airwaves how can that be theft? many open wifi
hotspots are intended for people other than the owner to use
anyways.
There are also many buildings that are open to the public even
though the door is closed. That doesn't mean you should assume that
EVERY building is open to the public unless the door is locked.
Likewise, you should assume any wireless network is not supposed to
be public unless you know that it is public.
Coercive/Overpriced municipal wifis suck, but in my area there
is a voluntary, free, communitarian wifi service:
http://cuwireless.net/
When you install a node, you can either be a host if you already
have internet, or you can act as a repeater to the existing
network. I think this adds resiliency, lowers cost, and may even be
good in a disaster scenario.
I'd throw up a node myself, but I rent :-/
Sorry, JW, but there were many great, small local ISPs where
real live local people answered the telephone when you called to
ask them a question. Then the federal government decided to bend to
the baby bells and end any common carrier obligation or
nondiscriminatory transport requirements. As such, independent ISPs
got screwed... including a few I really miss.
By the way, water and sewer service are not a "right." It's a
pay-to-play gig. Stop paying your water or sewer bills and drop the
local utility a little note that they need to respect your "right."
Public broadband wouldn't be terribly different than public
roads... except that it would be far easier to allocate bandwidth
than travel lanes. I'm still waiting to meet the libertarian who
won't use public streets or sidewalks as a matter of
principle.
Frankly, as much as I distrust and dislike government... I distrust
and dislike Comcast and Verizon more. Buying and selling influence
at the state and federal levels, they coopt regulators, stifle
competition, screw customers and I don't even get a chance to cast
a symbolic vote in protest.
And finally, stealing because it's inconvenient and because a
property owner is careless is still stealing.
By the way, water and sewer service are not a "right." It's
a pay-to-play gig. Stop paying your water or sewer bills and drop
the local utility a little note that they need to respect your
"right."
I'm not saying that they are, but that's always the justification
used by the statists to mandate a utility's existance, somthing
akin to neccessary for life. Throwing internet access on that same
log pile doesn't pass the smell test matter how you look at it.
Monpolies suck no matter who they are and how
well-intentioned.
Don't create communications monopolies in the first place and
you'll see no need for common carrier provisions.
Frankly, as much as I distrust and dislike government... I
distrust and dislike Comcast and Verizon more. Buying and selling
influence at the state and federal levels, they coopt regulators,
stifle competition, screw customers and I don't even get a chance
to cast a symbolic vote in protest.
Then you should be agitating in favor of removing franchise
agreements to allow actual, real competition, not for more free
ponies.
Hopefully, WiMax will finally get its shit together and mitigate
the "last mile" argument.
you still don't get it. radio waves are not physical. when you broadcast into the airwaves you are putting your network into the public space. you don't need a license to send or receive in that part of the bandwidth. you don't own the airwaves so if you have a problem with it change your fucking setting. if you want privacy stick to physical connections. and there are a LOT of people who have wifi hotspots free, where it is encouraged to be used without charge.
live inside a faraday cage if you don't like people picking up your electromagnetic radiation leaks.
Minneapolis has it. Works great!
For $19.95 a month, it better work fucking flawlessly.
"""Actually I remember around 1998 or so the Post Office was
actually talking about giving every American a Post office email
address."""
I wouldn't be surprised if your home address has an assigned IP
number one day.
Do we really want government WiFi? That means they get to keep the
records of who does what on their network. No warrant or judical
review necessary, of course the government wants to be your
ISP.
Minneapolis WiFi?
Working downtown I can't get a piddle of the public signal from the
window of any building. And even my uptown-living socialist
co-workers (the neighborhood is a high-density hotbed of those
type) who were stoked about its offering still stick to Qwest,
Comcast, or AT&T 3G in lieu of the city's 19.95 WiFi expense
and poor connectivity.
jose,
right on paco! we need to stick it to the man and grab all the free
wifi we can! if america would only get more progressive everybody
could share wifi and heat.
Two years ago, I remember the city of Tucson spending more than a million dollars to determine the feasibility of a wi-fi network covering the entire city. Considering the low density and geography of Tucson, this was a totally absurd plan. I would not be shocked if they abandoned it as well after spending a few more million on consultants.
Umm, Tucson deployed their system. They are primarily using it
for ambulances and public safety although I know they were going to
expand it's functionality. It was never designed for municipal
WiFi.
What's really funny is that just outside Tucson, there is a 3
square mile area that has it's own WiFi/PTMP system that serves
over 220 users in a area of about 3-4 square miles that cost them
about 1/10 the cost of the Tucson system. Their users get about
2.5Mbps currently with sub 5ms latency rates internally. The cost
of deploying that system is about $6000 per square mile with
180Mbps of internal bandwidth with about 5% of loss per hop versus
the 50% loss associated with most lower end systems.
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