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McCain-Obama II: Music City Massacre
Thus begins the open thread. I'll be commenting here all night, and other reasonoids will be commenting all over the blog.
9:02: "I have selected a great list of questions on domestic and foreign policy." It doesn't sound like Brokaw wants to ask about the bullshit-of-the-day attacks.
UPDATE: This was an inopportune time for a web slowdown. Responses won't be as immediate as your comments.
9:05-13: That was an interesting bit of attacking-without-looking-mean. Or trying to, at least. McCain's deployment of the Freddie/Fannie attack was something conservatives have been pleading for over the last week, and it hit the mark, but Obama might have deflected it with the attack on deregulation.
9:15: “You’re not interested in politicians pointin’ fingers.” Palinesque!
9:18: “I wrote a letter, too. Senator Obama’s not on it.” Both of them seem more irritated tonight.
9:28: "We're not shotgun shots, my friends." I am going to miss elements of the McCain campaign when this is over.
9:31: Obama must be driving McCain insane with his speechmaking over McCain's easy-going conversation. He wimps out on the "what Americans can sacrifice" question. Clearly, he wants Americans to stop using so much gas. He wants us to pay more for it. But no way can he say that and keep his lead.
9:35: McCain's attempt to turn Obama into Herbert Hoover won't work. Unfair, but true.
9:38: Glad I didn't spread around my prediction that Obama could match McCain in the town hall setting, because McCain has adapted his style to this format better than Obama has. He's treating Obama like the far-away Washington politicians he bashes on the stump, and remembering the factoids that he needs to drive the points.
9:40: Anyone else having trouble telling the two of them apart?
9:43: Huge mistake for Obama to not stick the landing on Social Security, unless he's confident that he'll get the question again in the final debate. McCain's position (his actual one, not this "commission" crap) is unpopular; Obama's is popular.
9:47: "That one?"
9:50: For all the attention Clinton's 1992 pandering to the town hall audience got, Obama and McCain don't seem that interested in copying it. Obama's giving a short stump answer on what the question was about McCain's saying "thank you for the question" then doing the same thing.
9:54: McCain's far better on health care than he's ever been. By... sounding like Obama. "Everybody should have access to health care."
9:58: Health care is maybe the one issue where Obama is much, much more conversant than McCain. The difference: He knows what he wants. He has said before that if he designed a system from scratch it'd be Canadian-style single payer health care. He says tonight that "health care should be a right." He can't lose on this: It's 28 days to the election and people are panicked.
10:06: A great question - if you're against intervention in Iraq, why do it in Darfur? - leads to a spine-chilling round of humanitarian interventionism one-upping. That sound you hear is Bob Barr and Ralph Nader signing onto a murder-suicide pact.
10:19: The Russia exchange mirrored the back-and-forth from this summer. McCain knows specifics and wants to charge ahead. Obama... uh, you know, look, agrees that Russia is a problem, but is going to be nicer. Sadly, they both score points like this.
10:24: Big surprise on the Israel round. Neither of them will commit troops?
Kolohe|10.7.08 @ 9:08PM|#
Home values of retirees should be awesome.
They mostly own free and clear, and so this would make the prop tax
go down.
BDB|10.7.08 @ 9:09PM|#
McCain just said we spend too much.
Then he proposed something he calls "expensive".
*facepalm*
Nate|10.7.08 @ 9:10PM|#
McCain going on about Meg Whitman...perhaps it would have been smarter to pick her as his VP nod.
|10.7.08 @ 9:11PM|#
Anyone playing a McCain drinking game involving "my friends" or "Tom" is probably already unconscious.
Ash Lux|10.7.08 @ 9:11PM|#
McCain just said we spend too much.
Then he proposed something he calls "expensive".
In the DC Universe, he's called Two-Face.
Joe|10.7.08 @ 9:11PM|#
Home prices are way too high right now. We should let the mal-investment unwind and home prices come down.
Nirj|10.7.08 @ 9:11PM|#
Playing a drinking game using "Middle Class" will definitely cause alcohol poisoning tonite
|10.7.08 @ 9:12PM|#
Obama keeps going with the theme that it's the "Failed Policies of the Last Four Years" that have caused the current problems. Why won't any of these yahoos admit that it's the Failed Policies of the Last Twenty Years from Both sides of the "aisle" that screwed the pooch?
Ash Lux|10.7.08 @ 9:12PM|#
Playing a drinking game using "Middle Class" will definitely
cause alcohol poisoning tonite
My personal favorite drinking game is to drink until it stops
hurting.
Kolohe|10.7.08 @ 9:13PM|#
eBay lol. They just cut 10% of their workforce.
but wouldn't the standard libertarian repsonse be 'for the govt,
that would be a good start'?
Syd Henderson|10.7.08 @ 9:14PM|#
Happy Cat | October 7, 2008, 9:12pm | #
Wut r teh 2 candidatez posishuns on cheezburgers?
They probably have a bailout package for that, too.
|10.7.08 @ 9:15PM|#
I've already heard these guy's stump speeches. If they're just gonna repeat them, I'm going out for a drink.
Just Plain Brian|10.7.08 @ 9:15PM|#
They mostly own free and clear, and so this would make the prop tax go down.
In some towns they will simply raise the property tax rate to
compensate for the lower property values (for example, in FL)
Sayoko|10.7.08 @ 9:16PM|#
This is turning into one big class war and it shouldn't be. We
should be kicking out every last one of them.
Joe, Alan Keyes isn't undecided. ;)
Kolohe|10.7.08 @ 9:18PM|#
You'd be telling the truth if you said 'things are going to get
worse before they get better'
Unemployment is going to go up at least 1 percentage point, maybe
as much as 3-4 (7-10% total)
BDB|10.7.08 @ 9:18PM|#
Obama lost the moment he said he is "Confident" about the
economy.
How is that different from "the fundamentals are strong"?
Charles|10.7.08 @ 9:19PM|#
Thanks! It's amazing how one six minute skit can make it impossible for me to take a person seriously for the rest of his life.
alan|10.7.08 @ 9:19PM|#
go Teresa! (not watching the screen, just assume it is spelled like my sister's name)
Sayoko|10.7.08 @ 9:20PM|#
I think I love the woman who just pointed fingers at them both. Can someone send her some Libertarian literature?
alan|10.7.08 @ 9:22PM|#
eeeew the bipartisan screw as the solution for the bipartisan. Doubt Teresa is going to like that.
Ash Lux|10.7.08 @ 9:22PM|#
Obama lost the moment he said he is "Confident" about the
economy. How is that different from "the fundamentals are
strong"?
18 characters :-)
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 9:23PM|#
Wow, McCain kills Obama on the $3 million projector pork project in Chicago. That is, I haven't verified if it's true, but helluva point if it is.
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 9:30PM|#
McCain: spending freeze ...
... except all defense and other things I like.
|10.7.08 @ 9:34PM|#
9 minutes no comment? i want better live
blogging!
It might help if one of these bozos would say something worth
commenting on.
Sayoko|10.7.08 @ 9:34PM|#
Does anyone remember when the President told us that shopping was patriotic?
SIV|10.7.08 @ 9:37PM|#
I've repeatedly tried to comment on this thread but no luck, unless you are reading this. the other post's comments work.
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 9:37PM|#
I. Am. Not. Your. FRIEND!!!
I don't know you! That's my purse! [Kicks McCain in the balls]
SIV|10.7.08 @ 9:38PM|#
My comment from 15 minutes ago.....
Did "both Parties" wreck Iceland?And the rest of the World? I'm
puttin' the blame on central banks and artificially low interest
rates through monetary inflation resulting in massive
mal-investment. I get lost trying to figure exactly how they spun
%5 mortgage straw into leveraged gold.
Alex B|10.7.08 @ 9:38PM|#
Ask these guys how many jobs the fortune 500 companies they are hating on have created.
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 9:38PM|#
I've repeatedly tried to comment on this thread but no luck,
unless you are reading this. the other post's comments
work.
I was just having the same trouble. Squirrels, you see.
|10.7.08 @ 9:39PM|#
Obama wants to take on entitlements?? Good f-ing luck. Those are the hallmark of the democrat party!
BobDobalina|10.7.08 @ 9:40PM|#
I've already heard these guy's stump speeches. If they're
just gonna repeat them, I'm going out for a drink.
Better gird your liver, it's going to be a long night. McCain is
supposed to "thrive" in this type of format. He's as mushmouthed as
Obama. I'm crossing my fingers that one really snarky but
penetrating question makes it through the Intertubes and shake
these two assholes up.
Oh oh ... "doubling the Peace Corps"? FUCK!
Wake me up when they get to William Ayers french kissing Charles
Keating ...
I like how Brokaw just bitchslapped Obama on not answering the
question. Hope he keeps it up, on both of them.
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 9:40PM|#
We know your tax plan, Mr. Obama. Let's hear about the SS/Medicare issue that Brokaw asked about.
Sayoko|10.7.08 @ 9:40PM|#
Yes! Sales taxes are patriotic! Both Biden and Roosevelt said
so.
I feel like bursting into some sort of '30s era dirge or
something.
How do either of these bozos think they are fooling? Tax cuts? Do
they read the news?
SIV|10.7.08 @ 9:40PM|#
Lying on taxes.Unless the qualifier is Obama's "plan". We all know a Democrat will raise taxes across the board in policy.
|10.7.08 @ 9:41PM|#
My friends, if I'm elected I'll replace all the server squirrels with straight-talkin' mavericks from main street, my friends.
|10.7.08 @ 9:41PM|#
Based on the CNN poll, Obama is owning McCain.
In other news, I hate myself for being addicted to watching the CNN
poll.
alan|10.7.08 @ 9:42PM|#
Wake me up when they get to William Ayers french kissing
Charles Keating ...
Good one!
BDB|10.7.08 @ 9:42PM|#
I call those little focus group lines on the CNN screen "Moron Lines", cause let's face it--if you're undecided less than a month out when this campaign has been going on for two years, you're a fucking moron.
|10.7.08 @ 9:43PM|#
McCain got a good kick in about Obama's failure to introduce any tax reform in Illinois.
BDB|10.7.08 @ 9:45PM|#
McCain: Forget about safe re-processing, just dump nuclear waste in the river!
|10.7.08 @ 9:45PM|#
Both of these guys should be wearing pointy hats covered with stars and moons. Then they should wave around their magic wands. They're both going to cut taxes AND spend more money! It's magic! Yay magic!
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 9:46PM|#
Based on the CNN poll, Obama is owning McCain.
I'm watching on CBS with two partisan family members, both Dems.
They are eerily silent tonight. I think they sense that Obama is
not doing as well as he could tonight.
BobDobalina|10.7.08 @ 9:47PM|#
A blue ribbon commission to reform Medicare, McCain? We're
fucked.
How about a Pabst Blue Ribbon Commission to make us forget how they
fucked up Medicare?
|10.7.08 @ 9:47PM|#
McCain: nuclear power is green!
So is Godzilla.
Senator McCain, why are you in support of Godzilla?
Sayoko|10.7.08 @ 9:47PM|#
Obama? Don't bet on it. He's a geek. It's one of the things I like about him. At least he'll get us into the 21st century on tech.
Alex B|10.7.08 @ 9:49PM|#
the US government in charge of the Nuclear Power revolution. Can't wait to see that
Ash Lux|10.7.08 @ 9:49PM|#
How about a Pabst Blue Ribbon Commission to make us forget
how they fucked up Medicare?
I can't vote for McCain. I want an Orange Ribbon Commission, not
Blue.
alan|10.7.08 @ 9:49PM|#
it was probably a bad idea to spend his debate practice time in Asheville. I'm more mellow than Jerry Garcia just north of a flat line every time I get back home from that hippie enclave.
BobDobalina|10.7.08 @ 9:51PM|#
Brokaw is being a massive dickhead. Who pissed in his
cheerios?
Since when is making a couple of blowhards actually answer a real
question being a "dickhead"? Hell, Brokaw's not being ENOUGH of a
dickhead.
The real dickheads are the ones on the stage. Actually, they're
more like pussies ...
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 9:51PM|#
I want an Orange Ribbon Commission, not Blue.
Well I want an OrangeLineSpecialCommission.
Alex B|10.7.08 @ 9:52PM|#
Where in the constitution does it say the politicians have a "moral commitment" to do anything?
Sayoko|10.7.08 @ 9:54PM|#
Health records online? Walk in clinics? Yes, these are new
ideas?
*cough*
Uh, dude.
|10.7.08 @ 9:57PM|#
I know they're trying to "draw contrasts," but if you ask me, these two seem more and more alike as the weeks go on.
alan|10.7.08 @ 9:58PM|#
Brokaw is being a massive dickhead. Who pissed in his
cheerios?
On behalf of all dickheads, you da man, Brokaw!
|10.7.08 @ 9:59PM|#
What stupid fucking insurance company would insure someone's pre-existing condition? The kind that wants to go fucking broke.
BobDobalina|10.7.08 @ 9:59PM|#
Health care is a service, not a commodity. Next
question.
True dat. However, I doubt if any of the idiots in the auditorium,
especially the candidates, has a Series 7, so they wouldn't know
what a commodity is ...
Interstate Commerce, McCain? What a novel idea! Actually, he got
that small business-health insurance talk out of his mouth, with a
minimum of babbling. Is he waking up? Uh oh, he just fucked it up
with explaining "responsibility."
And then Mr. Constitutional Scholar just made health care a
"right." Perhaps that's in the "penumbra," Mr. Obama? And who cares
about your fucking mother? You went to Harvard. She had a college
degree. You muthafuckers couldn't figure out how to afford simple
health care with college degrees? Then the bitch deserved to die
for being so cheap.
Liberal Jackasses ...
If McCain doesn't pounce on what Obama just said about Delaware and
Banks, he's an idiot.
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 10:00PM|#
"That one."
The people who I'm watching with just went a little ballistic on
that one.
Unnecessarily disrespectful; it makes McCain look small and
nasty.
alan|10.7.08 @ 10:00PM|#
Wow, McCain just say that the purpose of the economy is to
sustain a large milatary?
Clean out my ears, surely no American talks like that, time warp to
Prussia 1835
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 10:01PM|#
Banks move to Delaware because they can get away with more there? Obama is talking out of his ass. Most major companies, banks included, incorporate in Delaware. Delaware has unique courts and a well-defined business law. They do it for the predictability and prestige that comes with being a Delaware corporation.
|10.7.08 @ 10:01PM|#
I'm glad Obama's mom is dead.
I don't know, she's still pretty good in the sack. Although a
little gamy now.
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 10:01PM|#
And then Mr. Constitutional Scholar just made health care a
"right." Perhaps that's in the "penumbra," Mr. Obama? And who cares
about your fucking mother? You went to Harvard. She had a college
degree. You muthafuckers couldn't figure out how to afford simple
health care with college degrees? Then the bitch deserved to die
for being so cheap.
Notwithstanding you being a scumbag, he didn't say it was a
"constitutional right". If he were smarter in the moment, he would
have invoked "human rights".
|10.7.08 @ 10:02PM|#
McCain looks like he's trying to push one out. I'm glad Obama finally got under his skin.
Paul|10.7.08 @ 10:03PM|#
This was an inopportune time for a web slowdown. Responses won't be as immediate as your comments.
But expected.
So, what's this debate thingy everyone's talking about?
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 10:04PM|#
They do it for the predictability and prestige that comes
with being a Delaware corporation.
It has nothing to do with prestige.
From Wiki:
Delaware began to stand out as a corporate haven when its laws
began to give corporate management notable latitude in its powers
to operate and control the corporation. This latitude has
frequently come at the expense of the shareholders' ability to
control the corporation.
----
I'll definitely grant you the point on predictability, though.
Delaware has gotten very good at dealing with corporate issues, as
they have *a lot* of progress.
alan|10.7.08 @ 10:04PM|#
Notwithstanding you being a scumbag, he didn't say it was a
"constitutional right". If he were smarter in the moment, he would
have invoked "human rights".
A 'human right' based entirely on leveraging someone else's
labor?
Paul|10.7.08 @ 10:05PM|#
Is John Fucking McCain running for... President?!! Holy crapshait! Where have I been?
|10.7.08 @ 10:05PM|#
Take the Congo. Or take Rwanda.
Fuck that. I'll take the Bahamas for $250, Alex.
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 10:05PM|#
Brokaw is doing a reasonably good job. The SS/Medicare question was excellent. So is the question about the use of military force for purley humanitarian crises. Now all he has to do is cut off the mic when McBama runs over his time.
Sayoko|10.7.08 @ 10:06PM|#
Jamie Kelly wrote:
"I hope you die of cancer."
Wow.
And that's why this Libertarian deserted the Republican Party and
why I am probably leaving the Libertarian party.
I can't handle the pure hatred that spews from the Neocons who
always seem to show up.
Paul|10.7.08 @ 10:06PM|#
A 'human right' based entirely on leveraging someone else's
labor?
Everything's about leverage. Just like the financial institutions,
they're going to leverage labor 40:1. Forty recipients backed up by
one producer.
Bradley|10.7.08 @ 10:06PM|#
I don't know, she's still pretty good in the sack. Although
a little gamy now.
Getting white Iowa Commie ass after she's been had by Africans, ohh
yea
|10.7.08 @ 10:07PM|#
We're not your fucking friends! Now answer the fucking question, you fucking fuckwad!
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 10:08PM|#
A 'human right' based entirely on leveraging someone else's
labor?
It's more defendable than as a constitutional right. "Moral right"
if you like; we have lots of wealth, and as such is it morally
permissible to let people rot and die from diseases that are
curable?
I'm not saying the answer is self-evident. I'm saying *only* that
it would be a legitimate line of argument to explore.
|10.7.08 @ 10:08PM|#
Why does someone else's "right" usually mean they get the "right" to take away my money?
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 10:08PM|#
It has nothing to do with prestige.
But it does. Ask any investment banker (well, what's left of them).
I was representing a non-Delaware corporation is a recent IPO. The
underwriters suggested we reincorporate in Delaware. Why? Because
it's more "prestigious." His words, not mine. The bottom line was
that when he (and the other underwriters) marketed the company,
they wanted to say it was a Delaware corporation.
BobDobalina|10.7.08 @ 10:09PM|#
Notwithstanding you being a scumbag, he didn't say it was a
"constitutional right". If he were smarter in the moment, he would
have invoked "human rights".
What? He did say it was a "right." Those rights (outside of natural
law) come out of our federal and state constitutions. What else was
he talking about? The right turn at the traffic intersection?
And scumbag, or not, why couldn't Obama afford to get his mother
health care if he loved her so much, and both he and his wife are
so smart and possess Ivy League degrees? They weren't smart enough
to figure out how to put their education through an exchange in the
marketplace, without calling on the police power of the state to
empty EVERYONE ELSE's pockets?
I don't know, she's still pretty good in the sack. Although a
little gamy now.
Well, that's what all the African men say ...
Alex B|10.7.08 @ 10:11PM|#
The followup question here should be about how the so called drug war has been a farce from day one.
|10.7.08 @ 10:11PM|#
Now Obama is going to increase non-military aid to Pakistan. More spending. It's magic! Woohoo!
hotsauce|10.7.08 @ 10:11PM|#
My partisan Dem family members just asked if it was ok if they turn the station. They wouldn't have done that if Obama were clobbering McCain.
alan|10.7.08 @ 10:12PM|#
It's more defendable than as a constitutional right. "Moral
right" if you like; we have lots of wealth, and as such is it
morally permissible to let people rot and die from diseases that
are curable?
I'm not saying the answer is self-evident. I'm saying *only* that
it would be a legitimate line of argument to explore.
You are correct. As a legalistic argument, any one including Obama
could only tie themselves into knots defending it.
Paul|10.7.08 @ 10:14PM|#
Is Obama sanctioning assassination? Hmm...
This McCain guy better watch his back.
|10.7.08 @ 10:16PM|#
He couldn't afford to buy her health care because they were paying off student loans. lol
alan|10.7.08 @ 10:16PM|#
Oh, Harry, if only you didn't smoke those bananas
. . . you were a stylin' maestro.
Oh, Candidates, if only you didn't just piss off Pakistan the both
of you . . .
|10.7.08 @ 10:17PM|#
Maybe they want to turn the channel because they sound the same or it's just boring
BobDobalina|10.7.08 @ 10:19PM|#
Osama Bin Laden is laughing his ass off, if he's still alive
(which I doubt) watching this.
And then Tom chimes in with "acceptable dictator." Kissinger thanks
you ...
He couldn't afford to buy her health care because they were
paying off student loans. lol
"Mom, is it possible to put your illness in forebearance?"
(HA!)
Yeah, I'm a scumbag. But in the words of one of our national icons,
"Your tears are so yummy and SWEEEEEEETTTTTT!!!"
Kolohe|10.7.08 @ 10:19PM|#
'streamlined command structure' and 'working closer with other countries' are pretty much oxymorons.
alan|10.7.08 @ 10:20PM|#
If the crazy ass fundies in Pakistan gain control sense both are so dead set against 'coddling dictators', the next step the president will have to take is develop a relationship with the less crazy ass fundies in Iran in order to balance that shit out.
|10.7.08 @ 10:22PM|#
Ooooohh!! Now financial aid for the former Soviet states! More spending! It's magic! Wheee!!!
Not Fluffy|10.7.08 @ 10:23PM|#
I wish that Pakistan would hold an election where the competing candidates could openly debate about whether they should bomb America, invade America, or simply assassinate residents of America and/or elements of our political leadership.
|10.7.08 @ 10:24PM|#
McCain is hobbling around like an old man. He REALLY DOES look like Cotton Hill.
Not Fluffy|10.7.08 @ 10:25PM|#
I couldn't post as Fluffy, but Not Fluffy works just fine.
Was I banned or something? PLEASE tell me I was banned, that would
be awesome.
|10.7.08 @ 10:25PM|#
"This requires only a yes or a no" - he couldn't possibly have thought that would work, could he?
BobDobalina|10.7.08 @ 10:26PM|#
'streamlined command structure' and 'working closer with
other countries' are pretty much oxymorons.
As a vet, it reminds me of when I hear non-military candy ass
idiots like Obama use phrases like "surgical strike," as if
dropping a MOAB is the same as Kirk shooting phasers on some enemy
spaceship on a TV show.
Actually, Sen. McCain, everything I learned about ducking
responsibility, I learned from Chief Petty Officers (LOL).
Dwayne Mayor|10.7.08 @ 10:27PM|#
McCain is the leader for the 21st Century.
Obama is wet behind the ears crypto socialist!
Sarah Palin is the heart and soul of this great country. American
Exceptionalism! because we are just that damn good.
USA ! USA ! USA !
Just Plain Brian|10.7.08 @ 10:28PM|#
That was a bold statement - McCain just came out in opposition
of a 2nd Holocaust!
I bet he also likes puppies.
QSL|10.7.08 @ 10:28PM|#
I miss the nationally televised days of Ron Paul steamrolling
his opponents on stage with his "non-intervention / commerce and
trade is key" message.
*sigh*
alan|10.7.08 @ 10:28PM|#
Game changers - ughh, I got sick of that expression at least since the 3rd season finale of Lost, but likely before even that.
-|10.7.08 @ 10:29PM|#
"it reminds me of when I hear non-military candy ass idiots
like Obama..."
Obama always makes me think of Almond Joys. Not sure why.
Just Plain Brian|10.7.08 @ 10:30PM|#
I don't know if anyone is against a 2nd Holocaust, although Palin may not know what the term means.
|10.7.08 @ 10:31PM|#
"Once again, the circle jerk for Israel. This is
depressing."
Sir, when the Rapture happens, this country must be standing behind
Israel's right to kill Muslims. Otherwise, this nation will go to
hell. Pat Robertson said so.
labbie|10.7.08 @ 10:31PM|#
FDR was also 21 years younger when he was President. He also
died at 63.
McCain is 72 NOW.
|10.7.08 @ 10:32PM|#
That last question is an interesting one, and it's giving me flashbacks of W being unable to name a mistake he had made. Fuckwad.
alan|10.7.08 @ 10:32PM|#
They both appeared so brave, striking and defiant of the UNized world when they stood up against the 2nd Holocaust. The Commentary vote must be playing hard to get.
Santiago|10.7.08 @ 10:33PM|#
LMNOP is a King of the Hill fan (see 9:37pm post) and a
"progressive." Not many like him around, I'll wager.
Goody. An Obama administration will enforce "moral rights" laws.
Question: Who's morals shall we choose?
KenK|10.7.08 @ 10:34PM|#
Did Obama eve come close to answering the last question?
Or was that just his stump speech?
|10.7.08 @ 10:34PM|#
How many of those town hall guys actually asked one of their question. If it was their question, all those note cards makes me wonder. I didn't count along, but I'm thinking 3.
-|10.7.08 @ 10:35PM|#
"Goody. An Obama administration will enforce "moral rights"
laws. Question: Who's morals shall we choose?"
Whoever gave him the most money.
|10.7.08 @ 10:35PM|#
Well, it could have been an interesting question if either one had tried to answer it.
-|10.7.08 @ 10:37PM|#
"McCain only sorta answered the last question. Obama didn't
even try."
That's because Obama is not experienced enough to know what he
doesn't know. He's unconsciously incompetent.
BobDobalina|10.7.08 @ 10:37PM|#
Ooooohh!! Now financial aid for the former Soviet states!
More spending! It's magic! Wheee!!!
Here's a suggestion for Reason: in the last debate, have a running
calculator that tallies every new mandate for spending that spews
forth from McCain or Obama's abominable lips. Everyone gets to bet
on the final amount like the Showcase winners on "The Price is
Right." Don't know what the prize will be.
Last Question: Oh god, now Obama's dead mama was on food stamps.
That bitch was a hot mess!
Obama always makes me think of Almond Joys. Not sure
why.
I'm thinking Three Musketeers. It's brown colored and doesn't have
nuts ...
-|10.7.08 @ 10:39PM|#
"Oh god, now Obama's dead mama was on food stamps. That
bitch was a hot mess!"
Lmao! That's so made of win.
Charles|10.7.08 @ 10:42PM|#
You know how I wish someone would answer a question about Israel? Something along the lines of, "[the other party] keeps talking about Israel like they can't take care of themselves. We don't need to hold Israel's hand; if they need our help, we'll be able to tell. Other than that, let's worry about our own business."
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 10:49PM|#
LMNOP is a King of the Hill fan (see 9:37pm post) and a
"progressive." Not many like him around, I'll wager.
I'll cop to being a casual King of the Hill watcher, but
"progressive" I ain't. Put me in a room with a dozen democrats, and
somebody's gonna die. (And since they're scared of guns, I might
win!)
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 10:51PM|#
Since a few of you are confused, let me say that to bring up
something as a possible topic for discussion or consideration does
not make one automatically a supporter of it.
That sort of "for the sake of argument" stuff that used to be part
and parcel of interesting and spicy political discussion got dumped
with the rest of the subtlety. I fucking hate American politics
these days.
Elemenope|10.7.08 @ 10:52PM|#
You know how I wish someone would answer a question about
Israel? Something along the lines of, "[the other party] keeps
talking about Israel like they can't take care of themselves. We
don't need to hold Israel's hand; if they need our help, we'll be
able to tell. Other than that, let's worry about our own
business."
That would be epic win.
It would also lose Florida.
You win some, you lose some.
Charles|10.7.08 @ 10:54PM|#
That would be epic win.
It would also lose Florida.
You win some, you lose some.
Okay, say it eating a big cuban sandwich, smoking a fat cigar
wrapped in sugar cane. It would even out.
|10.7.08 @ 10:55PM|#
I may not have been able to drink tonight, but hopefully Angus Scrimm can cheer me up. NonVoter here i come
Elian Gonzalez|10.7.08 @ 11:11PM|#
"Okay, say it eating a big cuban sandwich, smoking a fat cigar
wrapped in sugar cane. It would even out."
...or while kidnapping a Cuban child.
mike farmer|10.7.08 @ 11:26PM|#
Wait, wait, I know the answer to this one.
"What do you not know and how will you find out what it is?"
How to fix the economy and control the country.
By being elected and trying to fix the economy and control the
country.
|10.8.08 @ 12:55AM|#
Funny...I thought I could read some "read-worthy" stuff
here...wrong.
How old are you all...18?
~Lance
alan|10.8.08 @ 2:11AM|#
Lance | October 8, 2008, 12:55am | #
Funny...I thought I could read some "read-worthy" stuff
here...wrong.
How old are you all...18?
Why? Are you trying to pick one of us up? I don't like where this
is going.
|10.8.08 @ 1:11PM|#
Ha, ha, still with the Elian Gonzales!
Hey, loser, he ran to his daddy with a huge grin and threw his arms
around him when he was finally allowed to go with him. But I'm sure
you and some other people who'd never met him know a lot better
than he and his father how he should be raised.
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