What About Bob?

Ron Paul's press conference with the top third party candidates just wrapped up, but it was missing one of the scheduled speakers: Libertarian Bob Barr. Barr pulled out of the conference this morning, but the LP's Austin Petersen hadn't been told. He showed up with campaign literature and was kicked out of the hallway by Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. "He was extremely angry," Petersen said. "I feel like the fall guy."

[UPDATE: A video of the press conference is here.]

I'll find out shortly why Barr decided to bail on the press conference. He wasn't going to get an endorsement apart from Paul's blanket, quasi-endorsement of all four candidates. According to Ralph Nader (who joined the Green Party's Cynthia McKinney and the Constitution Party's Chuck Baldwin on the dais), Barr's campaign manager Russ Verney affirmed that Barr agreed with the premise behind the press conference, that all the candidates had agreed to four principles.

Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.

Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.

The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.

The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds. financial institutions.

Barr agrees with all of that. It's a coup for Paul, who has settled into a role as the patron saint of political outcasts. He introduced the candidates as representatives of the real American majority. "Most people are voting for the lesser of two evils!" Ralph Nader took the sentiment further, arguing that lousy media coverage and trivia "like the newest one, Lipstickgate!" was preventing the average voter from learning how he agreed with these four candidates. As weird as the event got, this was really something: Ralph Nader, old-time contributer to the Freeman, signing on to a libertarian candidate's principles. Cynthia McKinney and Chuck Baldwin agreeing on the bulk of a political platform.

But it did get weird. There was no censorship of the candidates. Cynthia McKinney had time to tell press to watch the film American Blackout and learn how the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen. Chuck Baldwin repeated his line that when he's elected "the New World Order comes crashing down!"

A few more details:

- Paul said that the McCain campaign contacted him on Tuesday about endorsing the GOP candidate. He turned them down, again.

- Paul lambasted the Commission on Presidential Debates for excluding third parties and recalled the way that his was excluded from Dukakis-Bush debates 20 years ago. (Those wounds never heal. Who hasn't wondered what he would have done if Kitty Dukakis was raped and murdered?) Paul's stance: If you're on enough ballots to theoretically win 270 electoral votes, you should debate.

- Paul, on whether his endorsements would hurt McCain or Obama: "I don't want to hurt anybody! I want to save the country!"

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  • The Extispicator||

    Great title for the post, considering the content covers a meeting of people who need to see a psychologist.

    Please note, this does not apply to the average Paul supporter, more the New World Order and Troofer crowd.

  • ||

    Aaaaaaaaaand Bob Barr shoots himself in the foot again.

    There is a point where even crackpot publicity is better than none at all.

  • Steve||

    Why wasn't Alan Keyes invited? LOL

  • ||

    Damn, but that must've been an awesome sight to see.

  • ||

    Aaaaaaaaaand Bob Barr shoots himself in the foot again.

    Not at all. Barr is doing a damn good job of shedding the "libertarians are insane" image.

  • ||

    I don't know guys, I like Ron Paul but I feel he's marginalizing himself and squandering his political capitol with stunts like this. He only has so much juice to lend other people, and every time a crackpot shares a stage with him (Ventura, Cynthia, Baldwin) it makes him seem less and less important.

    There's a different way to do what he wants to do. He can galvanize a movement. But I keep thinking of it through my own POV: I want to be part of that change, but I don't want to be in the same wading pool as people who, sorry to say, are in fact loons. Paul, I would say, is not such a loon, but he's breaking bread with some real whackjobs these days, and that makes me very, very worried.

  • Steve||

    I think Paul's agenda would have been much more effective had he backed one particular third party candidate.

  • ||

    Something very profound is taking shape here. Despite Paul's poor communication skills he is out of shear will bringing about a major fundamental change in a badly broken and fraudulent selection and election process. Third parties are needed to open peoples minds enough to foment change in the main parties. Without this we get a game show election with game show host quality Presidents.

  • Peter||

    Let's face it, there is zero hope. we're all doomed

  • ||

    Fruitcakes in the kitchen (fruitcakes in the kitchen)
    Fruitcakes on the street (fruitcakes on the street)
    Struttin naked through the crosswalk
    In the middle of the week
    Half-baked cookies in the oven (cookies in the oven)
    Half-baked people on the bus (people on the bus)
    Theres a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

  • ||

    Not at all. Barr is doing a damn good job of shedding the "libertarians are insane" image.

    Eh, I guess I'm torn. I don't think that he's shedding that image at all. Most people (I suspect) continue to think that libertarians are insane, and how can you work against that impression when no one even knows who you are?

    For all his faults, Ron Paul has provided a chance for libertarians to be noticed, and Bob Barr is squandering that opportunity.

  • Steve||

    I agree completely.

    Why did Paul spend a large amount of his hard-earned political clout on these numbskulls? Barr, an excellent third party candidate, wasn't even there. And only a few days ago, Paul was flat-out endorsing Barr.

    He should have just stuck with backing Barr.

    Bad move Paul. Too bad ...

  • damon||

    >>Gary

    Seriously? I think there are some interesting things happening, and there's some energy, but stitching together a coalition of some solid libertarians and then adding a whole big bag of crazy-insane-nutjobs isn't really a good thing, I don't think. Unless they all want to jump on and throw their support behind a single third party candidate if only to get more than 2% of the vote.

    I mean, important? Maybe. But it may just as likely kill off the movement as the more rational, real-politic style supporters start looking around at the other folks in the crowd and think "oh man, do I really want to be in on -this- kind of thing?"

    Shrug.

  • ||

    The Washington Post already reported this was the case LAST NIGHT. Their blog about Paul's announcement said Bob Barr would be holding a SEPARATE press conference today at noon.

  • ||

    This event almost convinced me to vote in a game that I know is rigged, something that I'd sworn never to do. But the only candidate that I thought I could have voted for would have been Bob Barr. After his no-show this morning though, I suspect that Bob Barr really is the GOP mole that his critics have claimed. A true libertarian patriot would have showed up this morning, no matter how much it pissed off John McCain or any of his other GOP friends. If the LP was smart, they'd dump this guy right now. He just lost them a whole lot of votes. For now this principled non-voter has decided to keep his principles. You can start the election without me.

    BTW, doesn't this awesomely stupid action, on the part of the Libertarian Party, just prove that Ron Paul was correct to push libertarianism through the GOP instead of the LP? The LP has been around for 35 years-- 35 bumbling years--and they've accomplished precisely squat because of idiocy such as this morning. This year's Paul campaign has achieved more for libertarianism in eight months than the LP has in 35 years. What a tragedy it is for the world that Paul is not a younger man.

  • ||

    Barr backed out because he is CIA and can't participate in a press coference that starts
    off by with a guy quoting Carroll Quigley and explaining how the fake two party system is by design there to give the masses an allusion that we live in a democracy. Barr's job is to gain leadership of what was seen as a threat(rising libertarianism)...and his job after gaining a leadership role was to diminish the focus on the taboo issues(foreign policy, monetary policy)....Ron Paul is seeking to join together the 60% of the population not happy with our choices for president...all of these people need to be aware of the sham organization called the Commission for Presidential Debates!

    without real debates we have no real democracy....as long as teh issues are controlled we have no choice...whether you are a socialist, a peacenik, a tree hugger or a cosmo or a paleo libertarian....this is one thing we should all be able to agree on.

  • ||

    I am a sane but radical libertarian. Bob Barr is not shedding any "libertarians are sane" image. If anything he is establishing/adding to a "libertarians are really conservative Republicans" image. He holds many views that are not libertarian in the least on fairly noncontroversial ( non-nutter) issues. I am a "big tent" guy. I'm not a "kick out all the libertarians who dont score 100/100 on the Nolan Chart" purger, but there has to be SOME minimum thresh hold to be a libertarian.

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    Of course I meant to type "libertarians are INsane"...

  • Boston||

    Anybody know what he is saying that the Press Conference?

  • ||

    Ron Paul is too loony for me I will not participate in his shennanigans. What has he ever done to spreadlibertarian ideas anyway? I am the greatest most respected libertarian to have ever existed adn I am smashing the old libertarian records in fundraising and at teh polls! Carroll Quigely never existed, the Commission for Presidential Debates does a great service for this country.

    I won't stand for anyone questioning our foreign policy or our monetary system.

    Sure I supported killing babies in Columbia by air dropping poison on them and had no problem whent he CIA shipped drugs into our country to fund some fun adventures, but that was a long time ago when I thought we may just be able to win this drug war. Since then I have become a libertarian 5th degree master!

  • ||

    Maybe he was sleeping off his appearance on The Rachel Maddow Show last night.

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    oh wow...that's so weird man. everything obama and mccain say is down to earth and normal. that's why i'm voting for both of them.

    you should write for the national enquirer you shit sack.

  • ||

    I am not a "sane" libertarian, because I think "Fabled Enemies" is a really good movie.
    youtube it.


    However, I was finding it much easier to convince people in Massachusetts to read libertarian tainted stuff when Ron Paul was the guy compared to when Bob Barr is the guy....the guy has very bad baggage for anyone who paid attention to politics in the 90's and doesn't describe himself as a "christian conservative"

    For a guy who is supposed to be a master of publicity and professional politician the pedophile mustache sure does seem like a poor image choice.

    Not showing up at a nationally televised press conference explaining the sham that is the CPD is inexcusable. I never knew Barr had a pro-CPD plank in his platform.

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    I think it was wrong of Barr to back out of this at the last minute. Instead of voting for the lesser of two evils, I'm now to the point where I'm going to be forced to vote for the lesser of 6 evils - 7 evils if you count Allen Keys.

    America, we are so screwed.

  • Sean Scallon||

    Why would Barr do this? Because he doesn't want his campaign to be seen as another "third party" run for President. He wants to be seen as above third party politics. That's why he won't participate in any kind of joint appearances or debates with such candidates.

    Barr and Root seem to believe they can remake the LP into the disgruntled Republicans club (or better yet the Eric Dondero Society), a means to influence the broader GOP. As the pick of Sarah Palin as McCain's VP , they've already succeeded in that regard. But just as there's not enough of those around any more than there are enough regular Libertarians to build a broad based Libertarian Party (the purists and the crazies can go elsewhere thank you very much.) You need both for better or worse. Most regular LPers are deserting Barr and this slap at Ron Paul will only make it worse.

    Ever since the Palin pick the air has gone right out of the Barr campaign, as if thought they feel satisifed with Palin and are just gointg through the motions (you get that feeling from Root). But then again it was already losing altitude. Regular libertarians are now refusing to work for Barr, purist libertarians are forming their own party (Boston Tea Party). Barr may have more name recognition than most LP nominees and may very well get over a million votes this fall. But the potential vote that was out there created by Ron Paul was even bigger and this clear insult to Ron Paul and his supporters.

    Fine then. Barr may very well find a sympathetic ear at Reason as they cast aspersions on Ron Paul's supporters. But now there's simply no grassroots base for Barr. It's a top-down camapaign that had potential but wasted it because it couldn't decide what it wanted to be. Ideally the best LP ticket would have been Barr/Kubby because Kubby was a regular libertarian and would created the broad base party that could have done good things this fall. Now what we see is basically a ticket that can only be celebrated by the RLC.

  • ||

    I feel like there is some behind the scene scheme going on..I hope the Barr campaign didn't compromise with the McCain mob..
    I heard that McCain's man, Phill Gramm, (yes, the one who called American's whiners, he's back) approached Ron Paul earlier asking for his endorsement for McCain..who's to say that the phill didn't approach Barr? We know how underhanded these crooks are..
    Who know's, but I'll not vote anyway that would give mcCain an edge..I do NOT want to see that man for the Next 4 years, living in our Whitehouse while all our nation's declines further...Obama neither..but least of all McCain.
    I'll still cast a vote for Barr..

  • idiotface||

    I can't take it anymore. Will you guys stop and think critically?

    Paul is a POLITICIAN and a bad one at that. After he raised the money, he needed professional help. However, he insisted on keeping his friends and family in charge. He could have left the Republicans after the primaries and joined the LP, but he retained his RINO status so he could linger on the House Financial Services Committee and harangue Bernanke.

    Barr is not my ideal LP candidate, but he's the last legit candidate that stand for any form of libertarianism. He does exude more mainstream credibility because he's a little more of a pragmatist than Paul.

    If Paul really gave shit about shaking up the two party system, he would have endorsed Barr straight up w/o the dog and pony show with all the other 2nd tier candidates. Instead, Paul doesn't want to tell people what to do, yet he's telling them what to do.

  • ||

    Sure, I think Paul should have endorsed Barr outright. But Barr's campaign is looking increasingly like some half-ass rinky-dink dog and pony show. Is this his first campaign, or did he actually get elected to congress in a former life? I find these kinds of 'we don't know what we're doing' shenanigans especially unacceptable from Barr.

  • ||

    I think Barr's problem is that because of the recentness of his conversion, he genuinely doesn't understand the Libertarian movement. The only Libertarians he's ever met are the Cato crowd, and that's who he is tailoring his message to impress. The LP has committed a lot blunders over the years, but this year will probably be remembered as their greatest fuck up ever. You had a movement that delivered over a million votes in the relatively restricted forum of the Republican Primaries, and instead of taking that movement and running with it in the general election, they decided to piss on it and try to build some new coalition out of disaffected Republicans who were sour on Bush, but not sour enough to support Paul. The bulk of those people are going to hold their noses and vote for McCain, especially after the Palin selection.

    The big winner today was Chuck Baldwin. I think he's going to inherit the bulk of the support from former Paultards not already committed to write Paul in or stay home.

  • svf||

    If Paul really gave shit about shaking up the two party system, he would have endorsed Barr straight up w/o the dog and pony show with all the other 2nd tier candidates. Instead, Paul doesn't want to tell people what to do, yet he's telling them what to do.



    yes.

    Barr's campaign is looking increasingly like some half-ass rinky-dink dog and pony show. Is this his first campaign, or did he actually get elected to congress in a former life? I find these kinds of 'we don't know what we're doing' shenanigans especially unacceptable from Barr.



    YES.

  • svf||

    ... so like, I understand why Barr might not have wanted to participate in this sideshow... and yet I must utter a mystified "WTF".

    He's in no position to turn down anything resembling publicity and/or pseudo-endorsement at this point.

    Hm.

    and "WTF" happened/is happening at Barr's own press conference, by the way... ???

  • damon||

    Dude, when did this turn into the crazy conspiracy theory forum.

    Some of you need to go visit the Skeptics Guide to the Universe. Right. Now.

  • ||

    "instead of taking that movement and running with it in the general election, they decided to piss on it and try to build some new coalition out of disaffected Republicans who were sour on Bush, but not sour enough to support Paul. The bulk of those people are going to hold their noses and vote for McCain, especially after the Palin selection."

    And it is no wonder this happens, since Weigel and his friends are constantly baiting the small but vocal group of reality challenged RP supporters, making it appear that they are the majority of the supporters, when in fact they are not.

    Barr has just continued the self destruction and failure of the beltway libertarians.

  • ||

    Well, I can't say if Fatdrunkandstupid lives up to the first two parts of his name or not. He sounds as if he drunk too long at Lew Rockwell's poisoned well. This absurd Rockwellian tendency to blame anything they don't like on Cato is childish and cultic. The Cato crowd, as they put it, have been rather cool about Barr and not likely to support him. And Barr doesn't seem to care about them either. There is no connection but in the fever swamps where Rockwell and his loonies hang out. I suspect they would be happier with theocrat Chuck Baldwin and his loony conspiracy busting campaign.

    Buit the moment someone starts spouting about "beltway libertarians" and the "Cato crowd" I assume they are at least one third of this gentleman's pseudonym.

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    Former United Stated Senator from Alaska:
    Maurice Robert "Mike" Gravel

    Got history cred?

  • Dave Weigel||

    Since Weigel and his friends are constantly baiting the small but vocal group of reality challenged RP supporters, making it appear that they are the majority of the supporters, when in fact they are not.

    If you want to believe that, go ahead. I seem to remember hounding Michelle Malkin during the height of the Paul movement for claiming that Paul was a 9/11 Truther based on one video of him talking to Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth. I remember her retracting the story live on Fox News.

    But as the primaries recede into the distance, a greater and greater chunk of Paul's remaining supporters (in some cases, exploiters) are indeed the guys who yell about the CFR, North American Union, and Amero.

  • idiotface||

    Dave, newsletter-gate aside. You guys have been more than fair and supportive of Paul.

    You are also dead on with the remaining Paul supporters. They will either waste their vote with a write in or vote Baldwin. Barr has no appeal for them.

  • ||

    It is disappointing to see from the comments section, what a bunch of "last in gate" snobs Reason's readers appears to be. Libertarianism was marginalized for years, brutally in some cases, and now that it is gaining some respect, we are supposed to start marginalizing the other minority parties just because we've been let into the club? Pathetic. This is every bit as reprehensible as the failure of the African-American community to get behind the Gay community on civil rights. As long as such selfish pecking orders exist, no one deserves to be inside the gate.

  • Orange Line Special||

    OH NO!! ADAM KOKESH HAS DROPPED HIS ENDORSEMENF OF BOB BARR!!!

    But, we all need to move on.

    Everyone please help me get a message to Reason and to the various campaigns, this is urgent! I have an idea how all these candidates could spread the message of liberty: a bus! A great big, PatridgeFamily-style bus that would tour the country, spreading liberty and freedom one appearance at a time!

    But, wait, there's more: the bus could have a blimp attached!

    The bus-blimp combination will surely fail where all the period costume parades have failed!

    Alternatively, Paultards and others should read this.

    Paultards and others have had a huge opportunity to influence the elections all along, but they're just too dumb to figure it out and too wimpy to actually do it.

  • ||

    OLS's idea of confronting and taping politicians is a good one. Most people will only believe what they see, not what you tell them you heard. There appears to be no Bob Barr campaign at the grassroots at all. Why?
    Well, most LP state and local organizations have no grassroots activities at all. You'd think that even if only 1% of the voting public is libertarian, you would still have enough people to have an LP club in every county in America. Perhaps Barr assumed such an organization was in place? Finding out it wasn't, at the beginning of the summer before the electon, doesn't leave much time to build one. Nor does the fact that the LP had no real front running candidate that 80-90% would get behind immediately upon winning the nomination. Unless the LP and/or the Campaign for Liberty commits itself to building a grassroots activist movement that takes on the politicians and their plans, then this whole movement becomes about nothing except building a mailing list to extract more money from those who respond to words and not actions.

  • Spencer||

    Bob Barr just lost my vote (he barely had it to begin with).

  • ||

    I love all the unnecessary gloom and doom. Worst part is most of you didn't support Bob in the first place. I'd say a small percentage of the negative commentary here are from people that are actually capable of objective thought.

  • Nick||

    The fact is that Barr, Baldwin, McKinney, Nader, etc. will not be elected. PERIOD.

    That being said, Paul trying to get them to combine their voter capital and resources to put a chip in the duopoly armor seems like a pretty good idea to me.

    They would actually accomplish something and build a path for better 3rd party opportunity down the road. Barr lacked the insight to see this as an opportunity to make lemonade from what he perceived is lemons....instead he's starting to sound bitter with "it's just not worth it". Now we know why he doesn't measure up to Paul who has faced ridicule and general shunning for decades in his attempts to hold true libertarian style beliefs....Barr just lost a lot of votes today- thankfully.

  • ||

    Way to fuck up Barr. You just lost my vote.

  • ||

    But it did get weird. There was no censorship of the candidates. Cynthia McKinney had time to tell press to watch the film American Blackout and learn how the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen.

    So you don't think the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen? Now THAT's weird.

  • ||

    Barr and McKinney can each make a very convincing argument for inclusion in the presidential debates, beyond being on enough ballots: they have more Congressional experience than Obama does, and he will be in the debates.

  • ||

    I DO believe that Barr is echoing the Cato crowd ...who are kinda weird. He lost my vote and so did the LP. Ron Paul should have made an endorsement of ONE candidate to solidify his base...now the LP is all over the place and the Ron Paul movement is all over the place...sometimes I think it's more of this "creative destruction" the Neocons like Michael Ledeen speak of. Matter of fact, I'm 90% convinced it is.

  • Raising the Barr||

    Ron Paul is not a libertarian, but he is a Republican. The strategy seems simple: get as many people to vote third party as possible. He proves that he's NOT out to destroy the Republican Party but to reform it; He doesn't give up any of his base, some of which would never vote Libertarian; He has two torpedoes, a Naderite-Green one for Obama and Barr-Baldwinian one for McCain. He's hedged his bet and one of the Statists will fall.

    Will Paul the Constitutionalist get the credit for it? Prolly not, but it will punish Obama for cheneyesque Biden and McCain for being cheneyesque. That message will hopefully not be lost.

  • B||

    Anyone who appears on the stage with Cynthia McKinney is a total fucking joke. Wait I hear something. Oh, it's just the last shreds of Ron Paul's credibility running out the door.

  • ||

    HOW TO FIX THE ECONOMY

    CHANGE THE SYSTEM, NOT JUST THE FACES

    a plan to replace the Federal Reserve system, get rid of the IRS and involuntary taxation, start paying off the National Debt, and improve `social security` for everyone by replacing our OLD economic system with a NEW system based on a new U.S. currency to replace Federal Reserve Debt-Money, a small, voluntarily-paid debit tax to replace the Federal Income Tax and the IRS, and equi-dollar `justified compensation` to replace corporate and personal welfare programs

    As many of us were forced to learn in our Quality Improvement classes at work, the problem is never a person, a party, or `the people`. The problem is always THE SYSTEM. Unless (and until) we fix THE SYSTEM, the same bad things will keep happening, over and over. The fault lies not with the borrowers and the banks who profitted from THE SYSTEM (and then lost their shirts), but with our ancestors for allowing this SYSTEM to get set up, and with ourselves for letting this SYSTEM continue incentivizing our own destruction.


    The primary problem with the OLD SYSTEM is that the tool that we use to facilitate exchange (Federal Reserve Debt-Money) intentionally leaks its purchasing power into the pockets of the rich like a bucket with a hole in the bottom leaks water. The Fed dollar currently buys about 5% or less of what it bought in 1913 when the Federal Reserve System first sprang from Satan`s loins. The vanishing value of those dollars goes, finally, to our international banking owners in the form of interest payments on personal and governmental loans. (To view a video that makes the problems inherent in our use of the Fed`s Debt-Money much clearer, do an online search for `Zeitgeist Fed`.)

    Congress` creation of the Federal Reserve System in 1913 was the equivalent of giving every taxpayer a vampire bat to keep as a pet. There is NO BENEFIT AT ALL in having a Central Bank (well, none for us) compared to having the U.S. Treasury print and distribute our own debt-free money to ourselves. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE between having a central bank or not, is that ``One system costs us 95% of our wealth every hundred years and puts us and our posterity into mind-boggling debt until the end of time``... and the other doesn`t.

    So the first thing we need for our NEW SYSTEM is our own, debt-free U.S. Government fiat currency, backed by all the property within the nation`s borders. Obviously I disagree with those who insist that `only gold is real money`. The hoarding of gold-backed money has led to and prolonged many U.S. economic depressions which explains why the U.S. has tried and abandoned `the gold standard` many times over the years. (One of the most famous speeches in U.S. history, William Jenning Bryan`s `Cross of Gold` speech, concerned this very subject.) ``Bad money drives out good`` means people will always wind up using as money whatever has the least actual value that will still be accepted by others to facilitate trade. (Back in the 1800`s they would use as money just about any slip of paper with numbers printed on it.) Debt-Free fiat money will work just as well as Federal Reserve fiat Debt-money, but without all the nasty side-effects.

    Another problem with the OLD SYSTEM is that income-based taxation creates wasteful tax avoidance behavior, requires an expensive tax reporting industry and an intrusive collection bureaucracy, and is, arguably, a form of `involuntary servitude`. Under our NEW SYSTEM, we should replace all income-related taxes with a one-half percent, automatically-collected electronic transfer tax (also known as a `debit tax`) which will be avoidable by transacting business using cash or barter. This will not only rid us of the IRS (saving the billions currently spent on `tax reporting`), it will also end the current penalization of work and entrepreneurism, as well as freeing up untold billions currently spent on `tax avoidance`. A debit tax is `more just`, corresponding closely with ``benefits previously-obtained`` rather than penalizing labor and industriousness, and (as it can be legally avoided, even if only inconveniently so) this debit tax can be considered ``voluntarily-paid``. A small electronic transfer tax will also act to discourage excessive short-term market speculation and should be able to raise enough revenue to begin paying off the National Debt. The tax should be either paid with the new debt-free money or exchanged for it by the Treasury with the Fed money being used to help retire the National Debt.

    ``There are two kinds of property. Firstly, natural property -- such as the earth, air, water. Secondly, artificial or acquired property -- Equality of natural property is the subject of this essay. Every individual in the world is born with legitimate claims on a certain kind of property, or its equivalent...{government Privatization of Property} has dispossessed half the inhabitants of every nation of their natural inheritance, without providing for them...an indemnification for that loss. In advocating the case of the persons thus dispossessed, it is a right, and not a charity, that I am pleading for.`` --- excerpted from ``Agrarian Justice`` by Tom Paine, 1797

    As argued by Tom Paine back in 1797, the third problem with the OLD SYSTEM is that, because governments privatize all of their claimed property (allocating it however they like), everyone winds up being denied free access to all property (other than that which has been specifically allocated to them) without being compensated for that loss. That`s not a problem for those with access to capital and property ownership, but for the rest of us, it is totally unfair and creates a slanted playing field upon which wealth gravitates to the already wealthy and the well-connected. However governments allocate their property, every method has the same result of `denial to everyone of free access to all land`. It has taken 200 years for this injustice to be acknowledged in a place and time where something can be done about it and when events have conspired to make rectification not only justice, but action vital to our economic survival. Just as compensation for eminent domain takings are provided for in the 5th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, governments should provide compensation for denying everyone `right of free access to all property`. The U.S. is the place to do it, and now is the time.

    Thus, in order to remedy this third problem of the OLD SYSTEM, we must elect a Congress that will PAY EVERY LEGAL U.S. RESIDENT `Adequate and Equal Compensation for Denial of Free Access to U.S. Property`, compensation which can FUNCTIONALLY REPLACE ALL FORMS OF PERSONAL AND CORPORATE WELFARE AND SUBSIDIES, including rescinding Federal Minimum Wage laws and phasing-out the Social Security system. (Once everyone is getting `Denial of Free Access` compensation their whole lives, most people will be able to save enough to be able to comfortably cease working at some point in their lives.)

    Our NEW SYSTEM should pay $1000 per month (of our new, non-Fed, non-Debt-Money) to every legal adult resident. Compensation for minors should be held in a trust fund to avoid incentivizing `baby factories`. Since everyone gets the same amount of compensation, this plan is not wealth redistributive, but will give the least wealthy the biggest relative monthly percentage increase of wealth. Because when people HAVE something, they have something to lose, we can expect a reduction in all sorts of crime under our NEW SYSTEM. I also expect the social gains to snowball once the viciousness of the OLD SYSTEM starts getting unwound.

    Benefits of the NEW SYSTEM should include better childcare, less poverty, less crime, more rural homesteading, better maintained urban areas, less intrusive and cheaper government with lower military-related expenses and a safer world in general. Once this NEW SYSTEM gets going, I expect residents of other countries will insist their governments either copy our NEW SYSTEM or else apply for U.S. statehood as Texas did in 1845.

    HOUSING/CREDIT...Anyone who thinks we can `prop up` housing prices without `propping up` the incomes of everyone necessary to support those housing prices is selling you the same snake oil that got us into this mess. Our NEW SYSTEM will actually prop up housing prices (and contribute to better maintained properties) better than any other plan once home prices get back to affordable levels. No other plan that I`ve heard of will do anything but make things worse.

    HEALTH CARE...Regarding the overly-expensive and underly-effective U.S. Health Care `system`, the AMA and FDA work to constrain competition in order to maximize the medical and pharmaceutical industries` ability to extort unconscionable prices for services and substances that should be affordable out-of-pocket. We need to train up thousands more doctors and other healthcare professionals and to decriminalize and unbridle access for adults to WHATEVER drugs adults want, obtained from WHATEVER source adults decide thay want to obtain them, for WHATEVER purpose those adults wish to use them, and let the market work to make prices of normal medical help and pharmacology affordable. (Cuba has 4 times as many doctors as we do (per capita), and medical treatment over there is DIRT cheap.)

    OUR ADDICTION TO CHEAP OIL...If we are serious about wanting to get the USA to kick its `crude (oil) habit`, we need to have Congress add on a 10% surcharge at the gas pump (bumping it up another 10% every six months) and rebate the surcharge revenue in monthly equi-dollar amounts to every registered car OWNER, regardless of how much or little they drive. That causes the biggest oil consumers to subsidize everyone else with no BOTTOMLINE cost to taxpayers or consumers. The surcharge will incentivize cheaper alternatives to rapidly come to market and we will soon implement and use them, no government mandate required.

    HERE`S WHAT I NEED FROM YOU...Seriously consider whether the OLD SYSTEM of incalcuable debt, of more and more wealth held in fewer and fewer hands, and more and more people in worse and worse shape, is really the direction we want to continue going. Then consider whether moving to a NEW SYSTEM deserves serious discussion. If you agree that it does, then please join me in creating a mass write-in campaign to bring these ideas to the attention of everyone in America. With both major parties fielding such good people who are such BAD candidates, this election seems like the ideal time to vote for REAL CHANGE, not just new faces. I will be registered as a Write-In Candidate for U.S. President in Michigan and in any other states where I get help with the registering process (volunteers are needed to help with that). A write-in vote for Alan Jacquemotte will be a vote for taking back our country and our lives from the banks, the government, and the IRS, and for saving America from a looming Depression. If you agree that we need to at least talk about this nationally, then you need to WRITE-IN your vote this November and pass this message along to two or more people every day until then (or, even better, to everyone you know right now, and then meet more people and tell them). If everyone contacted spreads the word to just two other people every day, over one billion people can be reached within 30 days. I know we can do this. alan

    ps. I support the Campaign for Liberty`s 4 Principles recently agreed to by several 3rd Party candidates.


    any questions?

    alan jacquemotte

    "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
    - Samuel Adams

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    Wow Alan, you've alot of time on your hands.

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    I just ran across this article tonight: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/hamilton4.html

    Best thing I have read yet about how to vote if you don't like the two major parties (or anyone else).

    Just brilliant. I hope you like it too. I found it inspirational.

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    I only heard of the libretarian party because of hearing Ron Paul in the Republican debates, and have found my home in the LP.

    Having said that, I believe we are NOT GOING TO WIN the election. Now Dr. Paul has two choices, he can join the LP ticket and give a boost to this years LOSS, or he can stay in the RP and continue to get media attention that the LP DOESN'T get.

    He played it perfectly, and best of all he got to keep his principle of not telling people what to do.

    Perfect.

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