David Weigel | August 12, 2008
I'm holding a palm card that was just given out at the Heritage Foundation to promote the new David Zucker film An American Carol. If I fill out the card, I can take one of four pledges, such as "Yes, I will send the trailer to my contacts" and "Yes, I want to be AN AMERICAN CAROLER or THEATER CAPTAIN." It's an induction to a movement, as the slogan on the card makes clear: "Finally, a movie for us."
By "us," of course, the filmmakers and promoters mean conservatives. Executive producer Myrna Sokoloff has put together a "pro-soldier, support our troops, pro-America" comedy, which Stephen Hayes previews in the new Weekly Standard. In it, filmmaker Michael Malone (Kevin "brother of Chris" Farley) and his organization MoveAlong.org are trying to repeal the Fourth of July when three angels—the Angel of Death, George S. Patton, and George Washington—come to him and convince him to change his ways.
The crowd at Heritage got to see a trailer and a few minutes of clips 24 hours before either of them will be generally released. I'm a huge fan of the Zucker-Leslie Nielsen canon, and not much of a fan of Zucker's ads for Republicans. The footage we saw floated somewhere in the middle of those two projects, quality-wise. Fat-assed Malone travels to Cuba, pledges to destroy America, and takes advantage of the invisibility granted by ghost status by grabbing a protestor's boobs. Bill O'Reilly appears out of nowhere to slap him. "I just like doing that," he says. Terrorists led by everybody's favorite pockmarked tough guy Robert Davi bitch that they're low on suicide bombers ("All the good ones are gone!") and all answer to the name Mohammed. In a scene that Sokoloff described, but didn't bring, Patton and his soldiers storm a courthouse that's about to remove the Ten Commandments and start opening fire on the people trying to stop them. "You can't shoot these people!" Malone says. "They're not people!" says Patton. "They're the ACLU!" At this point we see that the ACLU members are unkillable George Romero zombies.
Details about the movie were kept secret, on purpose, until this month. In February, it was reported that Kelsey Grammer would be Scrooge in the new movie. He's actually playing the ghost of George Patton, and Jon Voight is playing George Washington. In a clip we saw, Washington takes Malone to St. Paul's Cathedral to lecture him on freedom of religion and "freedom of speech, which you abuse." Malone is grossed out by dust in the priest's box, so the doors open onto the smoldering ruins of the World Trade Center. "This is the dust of 3000 innocent human beings!" bellows Washington. Malone whimpers that he's just making movies. Washington won't have it. "Is that what you plan to say on Judgment Day?"
"That scene," said Sokoloff, "is hard to put in a comedy. But we had to do it."
The whole meeting had the tone of a FARC strategy session more than a fun publicity junket. This movie isn't just going to sell tickets (it'll open in 2000 theaters), it's going to liberate Hollywood's Republican untouchables and open the floodgates to more conservative films. "Last year you saw a bunch of anti-military movies like Redacted and In the Valley of Elah," Sokoloff said. "All of them had big stars, and, thank God, they bombed. America didn’t want to see that stuff on screen. We have to show up to a movie that has our values. If this succeeds, if could change everything."
Sokoloff did worry about the last political comedy to hit theaters, Swing Vote. "People just didn't want to see something about the election," she mused. Is it a bad sign that both of the fictional politicians in that film, Dennis Hopper and Kelsey Grammer, are back in this? Probably not, actually. Swing Vote tried to tell a sappy Capra story divorced from real-world politics. This movie grabs the culture war by both horns and starts riding and hollering.
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Prediction: it will be horrible with a few funny moments. Those funny moments will probably be very similar to the shots taken at liberals in Team America. The non-funny parts will be agonizingly bad.
It sounds like this will do for comedy what Ben Stein's Expelled did for science.
"In a clip we saw, Washington takes Malone to St. Paul's
Cathedral to lecture him on freedom of religion and 'freedom of
speech, which you abuse.' Malone is grossed out by dust in the
priest's box, so the doors open onto the smoldering ruins of the
World Trade Center. "This is the dust of 3000 innocent human
beings!" bellows Washington. Malone whimpers that he's just making
movies. Washington won't have it. 'Is that what you plan to say on
Judgment Day?'"
Don't forget the hilarious scene where Washington says he was "just
kidding" about the whole no-entangling-alliances thing.
Look people. Blinkered fanatics ARE NOT FUNNY on either the left
or the right. It was seriousness and a lack of humor that made them
fanatics in the first place. Don't hold your breath for a hilarious
anti-war Sean Penn sitcom anytime soon, either.
And speaking of Expelled, conservatives should stay out of
the documentary genre. The right has religion to tell them what to
think and the left has documentaries. Documentaries are liberal
equivilent of going to church; there's a reason Unitarians aren't
much of a force in the religious landscape of America.
This reminds of me liberals trying to do radio talk shows. Talk radio is bad enough without liberal pontification. Now we have conservatives trying to put political messages in Hollywood movies. The political messages in movies are bad enough without having to sit through neocon/theocon lectures.
So this tripe is getting green-lit while Atlas Shrugged is stuck in pre-production hell. Does that seem right to you?
Blinkered fanatics ARE NOT FUNNY on either the left or the
right.
Oh yes they are. It's just that you need someone like Sascha Baron
Cohen interviewing them to get at the funny nougat center.
conservatives should stay out of the documentary
genre.
Let's be fair, now. Conservatives have made some good documentaries
too, on issues like immigration and the Waco attacks.
Shooting libruls is funny! Especially if they abuse so-called "free speech!" I decide!
Good God this sounds lame. I bet most homemade YouTube videos will get more views than this movie.
And it's funny you don't smear all liberal documentaries everywhere on the basis of shit like Sicko...
There some stupid show on Fox News called The Half-hour News Hour that was supposed to compete with The Daily Show. I saw a clip of that where the running joke was that Barack Obama's initials are "BO". I shit you not. That's what this sounds like.
filmmaker Michael Malone (Kevin "brother of Chris" Farley)
and his organization MoveAlong.org are trying to repeal the Fourth
of July when three angels-the Angel of Death, George S. Patton, and
George Washington-come to him and convince him to change his
ways.
I don't know about anyone else, but I think an encounter with the
Angel of Death would be plenty to convince me of just about
anything, with or without dead American heroes thrown in!!
Weigel, I hope the following quote was sarcasm:
I'm a huge fan of the Zucker-Leslie Nielsen canon...
Because if it isn't, you have no cred as a movie critic. You're
going to tell me you liked Spy Hard? Dracula: Dead and Loving It?
Mafia?
But on to this American Carol business: this is parroting, not
parody. Simply taking figures from the real world or literature,
changing their names slightly, and adding some fart jokes does not
a satire make.
This looks to be another entry in to lowest common denominator of
"comedy," a genre filled with the likes of Epic Movie, Date Movie,
and Meet the Spartans.
It's the drooling masses chuckling at this trash, stupefied while
their leaders destroy their rights.
So this tripe is getting green-lit while Atlas Shrugged is
stuck in pre-production hell. Does that seem right to
you?
Actually, yes, given that if shot faithfully, AS would be 98 hours
long, and terminally dull.
Atlas Shrugged is stuck in pre-production hell.
You'd think with Angelina Jolie on board, it would be a done deal,
but apparently Perelman is out and she's pregnant, so...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged_(film)
This sounds like pretty edgy stuff, really. A fat, liberal
filmmaker named Michael Malone? Brilliant.
However, they should have gone the extra mile and named the
character Michael S'mores and had him eating s'mores all the time.
I'm not saying it's funny, but it has a lot of potential in the
product tie-in dep't.
Documentaries are liberal equivalent of going to church;
there's a reason Unitarians aren't much of a force in the religious
landscape of America.
Alright, boys (and transgendered fellow travelers)! We've hoisted
the question mark. Let's set 'er alight!
[Dramatic pan to SugarFree, who stands agape]
Sugarfree: Why o why didn't the government outlaw this *hate
Speech!!!*
BTW, was anyone else surprised and aroused to learn Jolie was a huge Ayn Rand fan?
However, they should have gone the extra mile and named the
character Michael S'mores and had him eating s'mores all the time.
I'm not saying it's funny, but it has a lot of potential in the
product tie-in dep't.
Heh. Well it's the funniest thing in this thread so far anyway.
If I were to make a movie poking fun at idiotic Republicans and the nonsense they believe, I think it would be exactly the same.
Does anyone know who's behind the funding of this movie (or the packaging of the fund-raising)?
I have no problem with this film. I am making my own film where
the protagonists kill as many Christians as they can find,
explaining while doing so that it's OK, because Christians aren't
people.
OK actually I'm not making that film, but I hope someone
does.
BTW, I hate Michael Moore as much as the next guy [probably more,
because I hated him starting from Roger and Me, and didn't
want for his later work to hate him like a lot of other people] but
does anyone seriously think that if there were to actually be a
Judgment Day, he'd have more to worry about than, say, W?
"Last year you saw a bunch of anti-military movies like Redacted
and In the Valley of Elah," Sokoloff said. "All of them had big
stars, and, thank God, they bombed. America didn't want to see that
stuff on screen."
Uh, yeah, it isn't that Americans don't want heavy-handed political
movies, just that your typical 2007 American movie-goer wanted
heavy-handed politics wanted a more right-wing message. That's
gotta be it.
That's gotta be it. In 2007/2008, what Americans really want when
they go to the movies is heavy-handed politics about the war on
terror - but only if it has that strong pro-Iraq War, right-leaning
angle that's become so popular over the past few years.
"We have to show up to a movie that has our values. If this
succeeds, if could change everything."
I look forward to this movie flopping spectacularly, and the
dawning realization that there are a couple of orders of magnitude
more Americans who buy into "Hollywood values" (quite distinct from
"liberal values") than "our values."
Aw, who am I kidding? They'll come up with some conspiracy theory
about the all-powerful liberals who refused to provide wide
theatrical realease to this steaming pile, despite the literally
dozens of Americans who wrote in demanding it be shown.
A movie based on Michael-Moore-is-fat? How can it miss? But I thought conservatives in Hollywood had been hunted to extinction. "Finally, a movie for us". That cracks me up. Poor David Zucker, an outcast all his life.
Elemenope,
It may be the low blood sugar talking, but... Huh?
Unitarians are fairly politically liberal as a group. Is this a
controversial statement? The Unitarians aren't a major political
force like many other denominations they are largely conservative.
Again, controversial statement?
I'm really not sure what you are getting at.
And it's funny you don't smear all liberal documentaries
everywhere on the basis of shit like Sicko...
I said documentaries are more effective and numerous when made by
liberals because the liberal base likes going to documentaries. I
made no claims on the quality of those documentaries.
I only mentioned Expelled because of the rarity of it
being a conservative documentary.
Feel free to doubt evolution if like; I wasn't making fun of your
precious Ben Stein.
I look forward to this movie flopping
spectacularly
It all depends on if they can get a large number of Republican
types to come out and see the movie just to support it. I doubt it,
but Passion of the Christ made 80 bajillion dollars.
However, the latter was about the founder of the dominant religion
in this country and the former is just about culture war
politics.
You want to experience severe pain? Go see this movie somewhere
where the audience is overwhelmingly Republican. You will either
experience the pain of listening to people laughing uproariously at
ham-fisted culture war jabs, or the pain of watching the target
audience for these jokes not laugh at them because they're so
unfunny.
As something of a connoisseur of pain and bad movies it's
definitely something to consider (if I could get to somewhere with
the right audience).
Documentaries are liberal equivalent of going to church;
there's a reason Unitarians aren't much of a force in the religious
landscape of America.
We are, however, able to kick some ass when a shotgun-wielding
maniac attacks.
Epi, since you like horrible movies do you ever read the Agony Booth? I hope they do a review of this.
BDB, from the looks of it, The Agony Booth reviews mostly stuff
that's a little too mainstream for me. I tend more towards fare
like Invasion of
the Blood Farmers or They Don't Cut the Grass
Anymore.
However, they do have Shatner's Impulse, which
I own, so I'll have to read that recap.
I've no plans to watch this til I can Netflix it and thus not contribute any money, but this sounds so terrible that it has the potential to be great, especially if watched while drunk.
We are, however, able to kick some ass when a
shotgun-wielding maniac attacks.
Indeed.
Elemenope,
Never mind. Under the sweet incandescent lightbulbs of home, I see
what you were getting at. Brain broke; going to play videogames
until wife comes home.
I hear that on the set Kelsey and Dennis snorted the dust of 3,000 innocent human beings, thinking it was coke.
Also if Voight says this "Is that what you plan to say on Judgment Day?" as Washington, I will punch him in the mouth.
Yet another version of A Christmas Carol. Not that I'm against
the genre, but when will THIS version ever get the hollywood
treatment?
http://www.adrugwarcarol.com/
Think of the potential for midnight-show double-bills with Reefer
Madness!
Episiarch-
Read the recap of Manos, the Hands of Fate.
Thats probably a "movie" thats right up your alley.
3000 innocent human beings? In New York City?
After you discount for queers, fornicators, drug users, and
gamblers you'd be lucky to have 10.
Oh, I get it now. Michael Malone is supposed to be Michael Moore. It's gold, Jerry. Gold!
Read the recap of Manos, the Hands of Fate.
I have encountered this one through MST3K. Once you've
seen Joel and company work one of these movies over, watching it by
itself is no fun.
Also, watching Ed Wood movies becomes less fun after seeing Ed
Wood. You start looking for Ed's humanity in his films and
that's never a good idea.
I can't actually tell if this is making fun of liberals OR
neocons.
I noticed that as well.
After you discount for queers, fornicators, drug users, and
gamblers you'd be lucky to have 10.
So long as those 10 are dead it was worth it.
Sugarless --
It's better than that. I used to *be* a UU (in my youth, before the
age of reason). Knowing some back-pocket Unitarian jokes is par for
the course.
Prolefeed: Wow. This sounds "Waterworld" bad.
Hell, it sounds Freddie Got Fingered bad.
"Let's make a "comedy" about the ugliest stereotypes across the
american political spectrum! only, we'll be the GOOD GUYS!
Yeah!"
Did anyone ever look at it and go, "hey... we look like a bunch of
dicks!?"
Good God this sounds lame. I bet most homemade YouTube
videos will get more views than this movie.
Most youtube *comments* seem more inteligent than this movie.
And how is Mr Weigel familar with a FARC strategy session, hmmm?
That's tres cosmo, even for me.
There some stupid show on Fox News called The Half-hour News Hour that was supposed to compete with The Daily Show. I saw a clip of that where the running joke was that Barack Obama's initials are "BO". I shit you not.
While it certainly wasn't up to part with The Daily Show (which
merely puts me to sleep instead of inducing vomit), it is right in
line with most progressive humor. Think "BusHitler", "Chimpy
McBush", "The Shrub", etc. To some people the height of humor is
someone from Code Pink flashing their muff saying "here's my
bush"!
Finally, the right gets its "Canadian Bacon".
Does this make Kelsey Grammar the new Ed Asner?
Epi wrote: "It all depends on if they can get a large number of
Republican types to come out and see the movie just to support
it."
I dunno. I bet there's a fair number of such people who, after
hiring a sitter and schlepping themselves to the multiplex, will
say "ah, screw it, I'm gonna see something good."
Also: Bill "loofah" O'Reilly smacks someone for ghost-groping a
woman?
The lack of self-awareness is... well... as expected.
"While it certainly wasn't up to part with The Daily Show (which
merely puts me to sleep instead of inducing vomit), it is right in
line with most progressive humor. Think "BusHitler", "Chimpy
McBush", "The Shrub", etc."
The difference is that people aren't being paid to make
those epithets up. Those are either split-second brain farts that
amused someone writing a comment on the web, or someone repeating
what someone else came up with. They didn't submit resumes
for the honor of doing so.
Voight was pure gold as "Mr Sir" in "Holes." One bright spot in an otherwise dim career.
Oh, man, I can't wait to see this. This movie is going to suck
harder than Larry Craig at a San Francisco bathhouse.
Curiously enough, I always figured Jon Voight was a lefty. Then
again, I'm not one to obsess over the political affiliations of
entertainers.
I look forward to this movie flopping spectacularly, and the
dawning realization that there are a couple of orders of magnitude
more Americans who buy into "Hollywood values" (quite distinct from
"liberal values") than "our values."
Based on the number of twits who infest H&R when they link to
National Review, I'm not sure I'd bet on it. Using the
crazification factor, 27% of 300 million is a lot.
AS MANNY
(best scene evrr!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVn94Lf-tU
Conservatives can make interesting documentaries; check out
Indoctrinate U.
http://www.indoctrinate-u.com/intro/
"...conservatives should stay out of the documentary
genre."
Yeah, there's that famous liberal defense of free speech, for you,
huh?
Only a nauseous, fat-ass like Michael Moore should get to produce
propaganda.
This write-up does make the movie seem pretty unappealing,
though I have read others that make it sound better. I've always
liked Airplane, Nake Gun (not the sequels) and Top Secret, his
other work not so much.
I'm really not sure 9/11 is good comedy fodder.
"Yeah, there's that famous liberal defense of free speech, for
you, huh?"
It's not censorship, it's advice that conservatives should stick to
their strengths rather than flaunting an area of
incompetence.
That said, there's plenty of room for conservative-produced
documentaries on cable. All those shows about military hardware,
for instance.
Note to conservatives: please stay out of humor and stick to what you're good at (basically being intolerant pricks). Thanks.
No thanks, Jon Voight and Bill O'Reilly. Puke! Conservatives should stick with being self-centered pricks.
Heh, where did lefties get the idea they were better at humor?
There's just more of them doing it.
Adam Sandler, Dennis Miller, and Kelsey Grammer have done pretty
well for themselves in the comedic genre. Not to mention Trey
Parker and Matt Stone.
The truth is, the more politics in your humor, the more it sucks,
regardless of your affiliation.
LOL,
I can hardly wait to see this masterpiece of American Realism
Cinema.
These kind of naked propaganda pieces always make me laugh. There
hasn't been one that sounds this good since Red Dawn was in
theatres.
The most astonishing thing about this?
Larry the Cable Guy had enough sense to pass on this disaster!
And to think Reason tries quarterly to sell me a subscription because I am a 'conservative' as are they. Then I read these comments and find a ton of public shchool and Endowed University BS - giving me a new reason to wonder how We (that is Americans) are going to survive the current roster of voters.
So, this is real? It sounds a lot like the Simpons episode that had the remake of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington with Mel Gibson. Of course when it gets predictably savaged by the critics it will be because the critics are all members of the liberal media.
And, of course, by "current roster of voters" you mean "other citizens who inconveniently don't see how I;m right."
this looks almost as bad as 'meet the spartans'. tired and
lazy.
has it really been 20 years since this guy was funny? i don't know
what happened, whether money spoiled him or this is just a case of
syphilis left untreated.
too bad zucker fans will be left with looking back to 'scary movie'
for a time when he had something together.
Jacob: "Conservatives should stick with being self-centered
pricks."
Since when have libertarians had a problem with being self-centered
(or pricks, for that matter)?
I'm not surprised that there is a shooting of innocent people in
this film. Look at what happened in Knoxville in a liberal church
where a conservative egged on the by hatred from the right went in
and tired to kill children. That is the result of the right's
propaganda of hate against liberals
This is a quote from the Ronald Reagan's son Michael..he said on
his radio show
Naming their children 'Hezbollah.'You know what I'd get 'em for a
first birthday? I'd put a grenade up their butts and light it.
Happy birthday, baby. Bye bye."
(thats what Reagan would do to a baby!)
"In response to a caller who pointed out that children are not
responsible for the names they are given, Reagan repeatedly
asserted, "So what's wrong with killing the mothers and the
babies?""
( http://www.commondreams.org/news2008/0626-19.htm )
The right uses violent sick humor.
I don't get it. Why is "liberal" a poison word, and what's wrong
with the ACLU? There's actually a site called "stoptheaclu", I
don't think the maintainer actually understands what the ACLU does,
or who they represent (hint: normal people).
Wikipedia very correctly states that a liberal believes "individual
liberty to be the most important political goal."
I can't think of a more laudable goal. Yet, somehow it is twisted
by the right. Poisoned. Your freedom is not important, or this
ideal is just lies made up by liberals who want to control your
lives? Get real. Conservatives mess with people and individual
freedoms so much more than liberals ever could.
States rights "libertarians" want liberalism but don't understand
that they do - states rights is a shadow of personal freedoms - my
neighbors believe what I do, so together our ideas are important.
They just move the liberal goal from people to the state. Screw
that shash.
The only important rights are the ones you have. Don't let jokers
take them away. If you are afraid of being weak on terrorism or
that liberalism would weaken our country, I ask - after 8 years of
a conservative at the top, are we stronger, more secure? Any
reasonable person would answer "no". My wife last night after
watching the news about Georgia and Russia was scared that we're
heading for world war three. Yet she doesn't let her fear cloud her
thinking - the conservatives in charge of foreign affairs have
botched it. Place the blame where it belongs, please!
["the Zucker-Leslie Nielsen canon..."]
"Spy Hard? Dracula: Dead and Loving It? Mafia?"
The first two had Nielsen but no Zucker. The last had neither
Nielsen nor Zucker.
Oh yeah, I get the joke, unarmed advocates for freedom deserve
to get shot! Wot a laf!
In the immortal words of Eddie Murphy, regarding the reaction to
his Stevie Wonder impression:
"Ha! Ha! Very funny, motherfucker!!"
This liberal won't be seeing that movie. I am heading to down to
Arkansas. I heard a new job opened up at Dem party
headquarters.
Wikipedia very correctly states that a liberal believes
"individual liberty to be the most important political
goal."
Depending on what you mean by "individual", "liberty", "important",
and "goal", I guess.
Because most of the liberals I hear about seem to be spend most of
their time talking about raising my taxes and increasing the size
and scope of the Total State. Which seems like a funny way to act
if individual freedom is your most important goal.
@ R C Dean:
There's a funny thing about paying taxes. They pay for stuff. Like
that crap war that cost far more than any liberal initiative,
ever.
So, your idea of paying less taxes is crap. The rich already pays
almost nothing and corporations in general DO pay nothing. Someone
needs to pay the piper. Continuing to borrow from China to pay for
these massive (yet nobody ever labels them "pork barrel", huh)
CONSERVATIVE projects is going to kill us.
Your talking point about Democrats wanting to raise taxes doesn't
hold any water anyway. Obama's plan only affects those making more
than $250,000 a year. That is the elites of this country, not the
main part of the population. If you are a rich person, kindly state
that in your post.
Thanks for nothing.
R C Dean
You have not been talking to liberals. Most are worried about a
take over of the government by right wingers and about lying the US
into a war for oil...and a fear of a war with Iran orchestrated by
the White House to stop criminal prosecutions for crimes against
humanity.
They worry that the US has been weakened by spending so much money
on war, while ignoring education and health care.
If you want to get an idea of what liberals are talking about...go
to http://www.commondreams.org/
fletch:
Your "rich" pay more than anyone else:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html
In case you have trouble reading, the top 10% of taxpayers pay
70.79% of taxes.
Colleen: Thanks, and great points.
I let myself get caught up in the taxes argument. Actually R C Dean
first mentioned and then accused liberals of always talking about
it. My bad for feeding a troll.
War bad. Spying on citizens bad. Education and health care for all
good. :-)
Marcvs:
Ok fine I overstated. I was actually referring to the tax cuts made
by the current administration, who borrows huge amounts of money,
yet takes away a big hunk of the governments only way to actually
get money to spend.
The rich pay for the bulk of this country. Great. That's the way it
should be. The country has been good to you, therefore you should
make some sort of tribute, don't you think?
Or, shall the part of the country that is suffering financially
bear the burden, making their troubles worse?
Or you believe that we should just not honor our huge debt to
China?
You either a) have a serious moral issue and don't care about
anything but your pocketbook, or b) have trouble thinking
sensibly.
Personally, I think you are morally bankrupt, since you can at
least manage to make complete sentences. There's obviously some
intelligence there. It's just selfishly pointed inward.
My favorite wasn't mentioned about in the post but here it is
from the script.
INT ABU GHRAIB PRISON NIGHT
Kelsey Grammar (George Washington) and Bill O'Reilly have brought
Film Maker Michael Malone to witness their version of spreading
democracy throughout the world.
Michael Malone
" I don't see how this is helping Americas image."
The few lowly privates are having the naked Iraqi men form a human
pyramid.
Michael Malone
"Most of these men are unemployed Iraqi civilians who have done
nothing wrong."
Kelsey Grammar
"I George Washington believe if they were innocent why would they
be here in Iraq?"
Bill O'Reilly
"Yes this is just part of the birthing pains of a new nation oh I
just can't take it I've got to slap one of those fine brown
asses."
Bill O'Reilly breaks out of the god provided protective sphere of
space travel to slap the rear of a thirty-year-old Iraqi
schoolteacher who is in the middle of the pyramid. The young female
private Lindsay England who at this point is not surprised by
anything gives Bill O'Reilly a thumb up as the camera flashes. The
senior officer that had just taking the photos smiles.
Senior Officer
"Nice job private, let's put that thumbs up in all the pics."
Fade out……
Sure your runofthemill Unitarians are easy going; but like all
religions they have extremely dangerous splinter groups that are a
threat to AMERICA.
"We are Unitarian Jihad. We are everywhere. We have not been born
again, nor have we sworn a blood oath. We do not think that God
cares what we read, what we eat or whom we sleep with.
.........Beware! Unless you people shut up and begin acting like
grown-ups with brains enough to understand the difference between
political belief and personal faith, the Unitarian Jihad will begin
a series of terrorist-like actions.."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/04/08/DDG27BCFLG1.DTL
They even have an extremely sophisticated online conversion program
that is hard to resist.
http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/jihad?
TAKE NOTE AND FEAR. Well, maybe not FEAR.. Take Note And BE
Extremely Worried.. Well maybe Take Note And BE Deeply
Concerned..., Or perhaps Take Note And BE Severely Apprehensive,
How about Take Note And BE a wee bit anxious?
Cheers,
Brother Venerable Molotov Cocktail of Love
The idea that the ACLU oppresses the military and police is laughable if it wasn't taken so seriously by some people.
I give this film 5 golden butt plugs!!!! that should make them very happy about that. I don't think there is anything higher on a republicans mind than a beautiful golden butt plug.
zerg | August 12, 2008, 3:25pm | #
"This movie sounds gay. Larry Craig republican closet gay."
This is not nice to say. Larry Craig was just trying to have sex in
a bathroom with another man that does not make him gay.
Conservatards should stay out of the entertainment business. They're all uptight, unfunny, and dumb f*cks (e.g. "Half hour comedy hour") . Unfortunately, they're better at pumping racist hatred through AM radio and Faux.
fletch:
I find it amusing that you purport to know what I think and believe
based on the fact that I simply pointed out that you were wrong.
And you even go as far to say that I'm morally bankrupt. On the
plus side, this movie sounds like it'll be right up your alley. You
probably won't have to think at all during it.
Where did all the moonbats come from?
The ACLU has attacked my gun rights. They can go suck an egg.
Oh, and fletch, get your hands off my ass. That's my wallet and I
don't want you anywhere near it because poor, wittle victims make
you hurt in your special place.
Would you be upset if I broke into your house and stole half your
stuff?
Hey, I hope they have time to work in a Bill Gwatney joke.
"Hey, Gwatney! Maybe this'll teach you to help elect the
Antichrist!"
In related news, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Sean Hannity all
reported having trouble washing bloodstains off their hands.
RG
The main character was trying to repeal the Fourth of July? What
does that even mean?
When did conservatives become a bunch of retarded third
graders?
Marcvs: when you distract from my point and insult me, that's
what you get.
It was quite obvious that you were upset about that 70%, making a
big deal of it, putting the word rich in quotes, and then
insinuating that I don't read.
Sorry you're so transparent. You absolutely have no morals, you
attacked me without provocation on a public form. Go away.
JB:
Reap what you sow. Guns and money. How sad you are.
I have absolutely no compunction about wanting to tax your dumb
ass.
Boy, I usually hate reading comments sections, but you all are
funny and not raving partisan lunatics? I'm too lazy to look up
this here site.
What wonderful place have I stumbled into?
R C Dean | August 13, 2008, 4:29pm | #
Because most of the liberals I hear about seem to be spend most
of their time talking about raising my taxes and increasing the
size and scope of the Total State. Which seems like a funny way to
act if individual freedom is your most important goal.
As opposed to most conservatives, who seem to spend most of their
time actually raising my taxes (while lying about it) and
increasing the size and scope of the Total State. Oh, and illegally
wiretapping americans, ignoring that whole habeus corpus thing and
illegally detaining people without charging them with a crime for
years. And illegally installing partisan Republican't hacks into
the justice system. For starters. Just listing all of the high
crimes and misdemeanors of the current junta would be a full time
job...
What was that about a funny way to act if individual freedom is
your most important goal again?
"In case you have trouble reading, the top 10% of taxpayers pay
70.79% of taxes."
And they own over 90% of the nation's financial wealth - they ARE
underpaying, friend!
fletch
I have no problem with lowering taxes for people who make less than
$40,000/year and people who make less than $20,000 shouldn't pay
taxes at all.
Its how the money is used that is a problem. And people should
demand good services from their government. There should be ways to
evaluate government employees and those that are creating problems
should be moved from their positions.
The wealthy have so much money that the amount they give is high
now but the percentage is low of their total earnings. The wealthy
also know how to use the tax laws so that they have income that is
not taxed at all.
It just shows how people have been sucked into the conservative
ideology when they advocate for the rich ..which is against their
own self interests.
Now that would be a funny movie..having some poor SOBs advocating
an ideoleogy that benefited their bosses..as they descend into
poverty..( or is that America today?)
And the last scene would show the wealthy in a place like Dubai...
living a high life style..while the suckers back in the US are
losing their homes...
"Sokoloff did worry about the last political comedy to hit
theaters, Swing Vote. "People just didn't want to see something
about the election," she mused."
Or perhaps it's just that the movie looked to be a complete dog
with a ridiculous premise and a star who could make watching paint
dry seem to be high adventure by comparison. A decent election
comedy starring, oh, say, a COMEDIC ACTOR, would likely have done
much better...
Wow, "reason" magazine looks to really just be Kos lite.
"Libertarians" look more and more like big L liberals these
days.
First off, why so much vitriol for a movie that takes a
conservative point of view for laughs? Aren't there enough Liberal
ones out there. Is it really that big of a threat to some of you
that you have froth coming out of your mouths? I think the novelty
factor alone is refreshing...whether or not it is good or bad
remains to be seen. But one thing is for sure, there is WAAYYY too
much of ONE viewpoint coming from ONE side in the media today. If
you all are so rational and down to earth, cant you agree that
homogenous monolithic opinion pervading society through nearly
EVERY outlet is not the most healthy thing for a FREE society? No,
you are too busy out "CENTERING" each other.. great, you aren't
Republican or Democrat, I get it. You are special.
Me, Republican, Conservative, Right Wing, Neocon, paleocon, all the
smearing adjectives you can come up with.. and proud of it. Now,
aren't I special??!!
Washington taking someone to a catholic church? Only a religious
ignoramus could come up with such a silly stupid anachronistic
notion.
Washington is George the first.
Paton is George the second.
Bush is George the turd.
colleen:
Your numbers are far too low. I'm guessing you don't live in San
Francisco or New York, where the salaries and cost of living are
much higher.
The $250K cutoff for introducing new taxes is pretty reasonable,
IMO.
Patton and his soldiers storm a courthouse that's about to
remove the Ten Commandments and start opening fire on the people
trying to stop them. "You can't shoot these people!" Malone says.
"They're not people!" says Patton. "They're the ACLU!"
Wow. After right-wing loonies kill children in a church and an
Arkansas Democrat for being liberal, I'm sure this will bring the
house down...at the NRA.
Republicans don't do funny. Pathetic, yes.
This sounds like it's going to be a longer (more painful?)
version of FOX News' failed "1/2 Hour Comedy Hour". Conservatives
aren't very good at doing funny - well, not intentionally
anyway.
So O'Reilly is going to have a part related to bOObs? Surely we all
remember what O'Reilly wanted to do to Andrea Mackris' "spectacular
bOObs"? LOL!
Another masterpiece of crap from the comedy genius who brought you "The 1/2 Hour News Hour."
"I bet it does at least 10x what Redacted did."
Yeah, especially once Richard Mellon Scaife starts buying
tickets.
BTW, he's the single biggest argument for a 100% estate tax.
Jim P
"why so much vitriol for a movie that takes a conservative point of
view for laughs?"
Because our lives have been threatened by conservative points of
view. I and probably others feel personally threatened by what the
Bush administration and the conservatives have done
My granddaughter is a Unitarian and my husband is a scientist(not
connected to anthrax research..but we did live a few blocks from
the location where the anthrax letters were sent from in Princeton
). I have protested and been verbally abused for carrying a
sign.
Point blank ... I do not feel safe in America...because of the
government and the right wing which will attack
liberals..physically, verbally and with lies.
so I don't find it funny that people in the ACLU are shot..since I
have belonged to the ACLU..
People feel personally threatened in Bush's America
fletch
I once lived in NYC...many years ago...I have seen how people with
low incomes can live...its another world than most of us
experience. I think we both agree to tax the wealthy. And it is
wealthy people who are behind this movie..An American Carol..
American Carol is a propaganda piece for the right...and at its
base they do not consider liberals human and they will kill.
I can't wait to see the scene where poeple kill in order to stop the removal of the "thou shall not kill" commandment.
Colleen. Thanks for the warning about us eeevil conservatives. I
had no idea I was so evil. I better tell my wife about me and hope
she just quietly divorces me. Actually, she wants to see the movie
too, so you better have the both of us locked up. Maybe that'll
make you feel more safe.
Btw, try being a conservative in a blue state - your car is keyed,
you lose your job, members of your church try to have you kicked
out or have communion denied to you, your tires are slashed, and
your kids are taught to hate you in school. Is that your idea of
treating people you disagree with humanely?
I'm just glad this movie is being made before the "Fairness
Doctrine" makes it illegial. It's only a matter of time before
critizing the "chosen one" becomes hate crime.
pt
You are not the only conservative and you are jumping to
conclusions and/or using hyperbole about my wanting to lock you up.
And I seriously doubt... if you are polite about your views ...that
those other things will happen to you. More likely people will
avoid you if they don't agree with your point of view.
Andrew Sullivan is a moral person and a conservative and I have
respect for him.
But there is an encouragement of violence coming out of
conservative thought...and thats the problem. (Timothy McVeigh was
not a liberal.) But yes there are some people who are conservative
who are good imo...but there are also some conservatives who are
arrogant and obnoxious.
Why would you be denied communion because of political views?
pt, I seriously doubt anyone did those things to you because you
are a conservative.
From the tone of your post, I'm pretty sure they did them because
you are an a$$hole.
Bringing up Timothy McVeigh isn't a good example. He was just
plain warped in the head.
I'm Catholic and when the movie DOGMA came out, the Church
practically made it a Venial sin to watch it. Well, I watched it
and laughed so hard at everything in that movie. It made such fun
of my chosen religion and although I didn't agree with some of the
so called facts, it made for great entertainment.
If I see a movie made to make me look like a horrible individual
due to my political views, it does sting a bit. But, if put in a
way that makes fun of me in the way DOGMA did, I'll laugh louder
than anyone.
Take it for what it is...silliness.
Susan
Silliness is fine...but using violence is not.
Minimizing the humanity in another in order to justify their
killing is not unusual..that loss of recognizing another person as
being a human being is usually a precursor towards killing...for a
war or even with the use of the death penalty.
Once seen as less than human it becomes easier to kill the other
person.
Suppose it had been a religious group instead of the ACLU? what if
it had been AIPAC or a group of Hassidim? What if it had been a
group of blacks ? or a group of women?
By substituting in groups that you are sensitive to protecting you
may be aware of how dangerous it is to use guns and then to
dehumanize the people affected...and to kill them.
Should we wait for some lunatic to use a gun at an ACLU meeting to
realize how dangerous this movie is?
(My own view is that human life should not be taken by any
government or anyone and that war is a last ditched effort to save
oneself or one's nation. Killing is justified imo when used to
protect oneself. Your own religion has said the US has a culture of
death...)
Examples of hate speech directed at liberals:
I tell people don't kill all the liberals.
Leave enough so we can have two on every campus -- living fossils
-- so we will never forget what these people stood for." -- Rush
Limbaugh
"I would have no problem with [New York Times editor Bill Keller]
being sent to the gas chamber." -- Melanie Morgan
""[T]he day will come when unpleasant things are going to happen to
a bunch of stupid liberals and it's going to be very amusing to
watch." -- Lee Rogers
"And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to
do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place
in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to
blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead." -- Bill O'Reilly
"Howard Dean should be arrested and hung for treason or put in a
hole until the end of the Iraq war!"-- Michael Reagan
"Some liberals have become even too crazy for Texas to execute,
which is a damn shame. They're always saying -- we're oppressed,
we're oppressed so let's do it. Let's oppress them." -- Ann
Coulter
"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme
brulee. ... That's just a joke, for you in the media." -- Ann
Coulter
My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New
York Times Building." -- Ann Coulter
"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically
intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed
too." -- Ann Coulter
And Joe Wilson has no right to complain. And I think people like
Tim Russert and the others, who gave this guy such a free ride and
all the media, they're the ones to be shot, not Karl Rove. -- Rep.
Peter King (R)
Where does George Soros have all his money? Do you know? Do you
know where George Soros, the big left-wing loon who's financing all
these smear [web]sites, do you know where his money is? Curaçao.
Curaçao. They ought to hang this Soros guy. -- Bill O'Reilly
"Has there ever been a more revealing moment this year?" Mr. Rove
asked. "Let me just put this in fairly simple terms: Al Jazeera now
broadcasts the words of Senator Durbin to the Mideast, certainly
putting our troops in greater danger. No more needs to be said
about the motives of liberals." -- Karl Rove
Miller is not alone, though some are more sanguine when it comes to
evaluating the roster of contenders. Here's a note I got recently
from a friend and former Delta Force member, who has been observing
American politics from the trenches: "These bastards like Clark and
Kerry and that incipient ass, Dean, and Gephardt and Kucinich and
that absolute mental midget Sharpton, race baiter, should all be
lined up and shot." -- Kathleeen Parker
The problem with conservatives' "views" on liberals is that
they're not true. Limbaugh and his ilk have led an enormous
industry based on selling a false bill of goods to their
constituents. They use fear, lies and anger to get their way.
This wet fart of a movie just plays on those lies. For a joke to be
funny, it has to have an element of truth. I predict this will be
one singularly unfunny film.
RC Dean revealed a lot with this simple phrase: "most of the
liberals I hear about ..."
Yeah. The ones he hears about. Not the ones that actually exist,
but the made-up boogeymen Limbaugh shrieks about.
I personally have never met the sort of liberal RC Dean hears
about, but I've met plenty of conservatives who, as far as I can
tell, really do hate America's values: Separation of church and
state, habeas corpus, co-equal branches of government, the right to
not be spied on. They angrily, viciously attack anyone who suggests
that it's not the place of the government to promote religion, or
that we should make some attempt to find out if the prisoners at
Guantanamo are actually guilty.
Liberals defend these values. So-called "values voters" are
hell-bent on undoing them, and their weapons are fake history,
religious paranoia and bogus economic theory.
I am so glad I hadn't eaten before I read about this. Still, I
think I threw up a little. This is probably the most disgusting and
immoral thing I've heard this week, and this week has produced some
real doozies.
Here's hoping this bombs like it deserves to.
"So this tripe is getting green-lit while Atlas Shrugged is
stuck in pre-production hell. Does that seem right to you?"
Apparently the glass is half full.
>BTW, was anyone else surprised and aroused to learn
Jolie was a huge Ayn Rand fan?
Neither, in my case. Exceptionally successful people are often very
pleased to find that they are solely responsible for their success
by virtue of being exceptional to begin-with. The fact that, though
her body is certainly good-looking to me, her face seems like that
of an humanoid alien, makes it easy to see her accept ideas that
mostly alienate humanity. Well, at least it means she might be a
good spokesperson for atheism....
See:
http://www.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com/images/ayn_seal_of_approval_button.jpg
>Me, Republican, Conservative, Right Wing, Neocon, paleocon,
all the smearing adjectives you can come up with.. and proud of it.
Now, aren't I special??!!
Why, yes, you are, given that:
* Neocons are in favour of a strong domestic welfare state as part
of their left-heritage and their "national greatness"
fetiche.
* Paleocons hate the welfare state, and think the nocons are a
bunch of Jews, and so not real men, and so not worthy of backing
National Greatness
* "Right wing" includes a great number of people who hate the
paleocons and neocons for not being pro-business or pro-torture
enough (some paleos)
* "Republican" includes many who hate all of the above, as part of
being the One True Nationalkapitalistische Amerikanische
Inhaberpartei
If you embody so much so self-contradictorily at once, why not add
"theocon" to it, since the Scudderites basically see the rest of
them as Chaff destined for the Fire? You already contain
multitudes....*
(I _am_ sorry if you've been smeared with all of the above,
especially as it probably indicates a lack of nuance on the part of
your opponents on my side of things, which of course includes a
great many fools and ninnies...speaking of which, thanks for taking
Holy Joe off our hands---just change his bedding every couple of
days, o.k.?, and feed him all the Pepto Bismol his galloping
dyspepsia might require. He once was a good man [c. 1962 C.E.] and
deserves respect therefor.)
*Hope I didn't induce some sort of panic in ye by likening you unto
Whitman.
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