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Turnabout is ... uh, What Were We Supposed to Angry About, Again?
OK, so you knew this was coming, right?
More here; via The Western Standard's Shotgun Blog.
|7.18.08 @ 9:54AM|#
Is it just me, or have John McCain's legs been turned into the torso of some Asian dude?
BakedPenguin|7.18.08 @ 9:59AM|#
Sam I Am, McCain wasn't 70 when he was shot down. If anything he
had more hair than that when he landed in North Vietnam.
RC - the artist tried to hide that obvious mistake with the
fellating girl. Not a bad strategy, but he didn't quite pull it
off.
Episiarch|7.18.08 @ 10:00AM|#
Holy shit that's great. If only The New Yorker had the balls to do this for realz. The blowjob would be too crude for them, though.
|7.18.08 @ 10:06AM|#
My wife was trying to convince me that the Obama cover was
HI-larious. I didn't bite.
Her: How could you NOT think it was funny?
Me: I just didn't.
Her (rolling her eyes): You weren't offended by it, were you?
Me: No, I just thought it was dumb.
So congrats, New Yorker, you're two for two. Please stop
existing so that I can stop hearing about you. Thanks.
|7.18.08 @ 10:08AM|#
The New Yorker would never run a cover like that.
It would never occur to them. If somebody came up with an idea like
that for a cover, he'd get bawled out by his boss.
Episiarch|7.18.08 @ 10:11AM|#
I don't get the New Yorker hate. You don't have to be a martini-swilling, monocle-and-top-hat wearing, Andover-and-Brown attending hyper-WASP named Chip, Biff, or Muffy to enjoy the absurdity of the magazine that such people read.
tarran|7.18.08 @ 10:15AM|#
For the clue-impaired it's not a real New Yorker cover.
Someone was just having fun with Gimp or a Gimp clone.
I think it's high-larious.
Episiarch|7.18.08 @ 10:18AM|#
Wait a second. There are people who thought that was real? Jesus fucking Christ.
Not really Barack|7.18.08 @ 10:21AM|#
The New Yorker would never run a cover like that.
Because it's not satirical. Just third-rate crude. There's a
difference that many cannot comprehend, thus the continuing debate
long after normal America has forgotten this 1-day story.
jtuf|7.18.08 @ 10:51AM|#
If you're a little rough on your Roman history, Nero is the one pegged as the arsonist in the Great Fire of Rome by Suetonius and Tacitus, even though he blamed it on the Christians.
Or as Nero liked the call it, "The Capital Redevelopment
Project".
|7.18.08 @ 11:00AM|#
Did a wormhole just enter this comment section? One of these posts is not like the others.
Colin|7.18.08 @ 11:00AM|#
That Seattle Observer one is ten times better than this one or the original. It's actually funny.
|7.18.08 @ 11:07AM|#
Because it's not satirical. Actually, it's exactly as
satirical as the original, in that it depicts the most over-the-top
stereotypes and smears bring hurled at the candidate.
I love this "If you didn't laugh, it's because you didn't get the
joke" attitude. It's what an unfunny comedian says when no one
laughs, because there can't be any other reason no one finds the
joke funny.
Episiarch|7.18.08 @ 11:16AM|#
The New Yorker would never run a cover like that.
It would never occur to them. If somebody came up with an idea like
that for a cover, he'd get bawled out by his boss.
I didn't laugh, but I did get it. Is that what you're talking
about?
Fluffy|7.18.08 @ 11:34AM|#
It's what an unfunny comedian says when no one
laughs
But when some people laugh and some don't, then it's likely that
the comment is true.
And this cartoon sucks. To be like the Obama cartoon, and
incorporate every criticism of McCain made by crazy people on the
internet, the cartoon would have to include MY criticisms, in
pictorial form.
That means that McCain needs to be:
1. Giving his first wife the finger while sticking his other hand
in Cindy's wallet.
2. Giving George Bush head.
3. Signing an order to torture a prisoner, while saying words to
the effect of, "All that stuff those GOOKS GOOKS GOOKS did to me,
do to this prisoner. Don't worry, I'll make sure no one ever
charges you with a crime."
4. That's already more hands and mouths than McCain has, but we
somehow have to have him jamming a German WWI helmet up the ass of
someone in private enterprise and telling them that the pursuit of
private gain is degrading and that only service to the volk is
noble.
5. Calling Cindy a cunt.
6. Dialing the phone to call some political hack to have them try
to gin up criminal charges against anyone who blew the whistle on
Cindy when she stole drugs from a charity.
7. He should also be tying a gag around the mouth of a statue of
Thomas Jefferson.
There's really too much stuff for one cartoon. Maybe someone
talented can come up with a way to represent all this in one image,
but I doubt it. Especially since they'd need to include the
criticisms of McCain which I don't make because they're lies, but
which other crazy people on the internet DO make, like the
accusation that he got special treatment from the NVA in exchange
for giving them information.
|7.18.08 @ 11:42AM|#
The girl with her face in McCain's lap is Jane
Fonda. Now do you get it?
Do I have to spoon feed this stuff to you people?
Laugh! goddammit! That's funny shit.
|7.18.08 @ 11:52AM|#
obama will need a thicker skin if he wants to be president. it
was a cartoon. it was funny. get over it.
plus, the obama cartoon could have been far worse. it could have
portrayed him as an abortionist wearing flip-flops.
|7.18.08 @ 11:56AM|#
Oh, yeah, Obama sure is doomed.
If only he'd adopted the John Kerry non-response strategy. Really,
that's how you win an election when there are smears flying around
about you.
Nigel Watt|7.18.08 @ 12:04PM|#
stop picking on me guys... it's not fair.
Would you like us to email you some R-E-S-P-E-C-T?
|7.18.08 @ 12:06PM|#
Funny how you never see anyone who actually wants Obama to win
claiming that his response to this was poorly handled.
I'll take Concern Trolls for 500, Alex.
|7.18.08 @ 12:08PM|#
respond? yes. stomp feet and whine about how you're portrayed in
a cartoon? no.
it's like when piazza held a press conference to say that he wasn't
gay. no one really took the rumors about him seriously until he
took such great pains to deny them.
not wise.
|7.18.08 @ 12:19PM|#
"how he was portrayed in a cartoon"
Cute.
So, did they make is nose bigger or something?
You don't get it - this is a great sympathy moment for Obama. He
loves this story. It gives him campaign something to push back with
when the Repbublicans argue the press is going easy on him; it
gives him a chance to hit back against the "scary radical
whitey-hating Mooslim" stuff without having to be the one who
raised the subject; and it encourages the press to give those
attacks, or anything like them, an even wider berth.
Shoot, two days ago, there were people writing on the thredz that
this must have been a set-up by the New Yorker to help Obama.
You want to gainsay the effectiveness of the Obama campaign's media
strategy? You go right ahead.
Grandson of Sam|7.18.08 @ 12:26PM|#
Funny how you never see anyone who actually wants Obama to
win claiming that his response to this was poorly
handled.
You must not watch any of the major news networks, joe.
Fluffy|7.18.08 @ 12:27PM|#
Funny how you never see anyone who actually wants Obama to
win claiming that his response to this was poorly
handled.
I thought the response was well-handled, I just also thought it was
fundamentally dishonest.
Faux outrage can be a winning strategy. That's why people do it. It
still diminishes the person who does it.
|7.18.08 @ 12:39PM|#
---it gives him a chance to hit back against the "scary radical
whitey-hating Mooslim" stuff---
the vaunted obama media machine kept alive a story wherein the
following words were repeated over and over:
"muslim," "extremist," "ak-47," "obama," and "radical."
most of the country only half listens to these types of spats and
what they will take away from the story come november is "hey,
wasn't there something about obama being a muslim extremist." well
done, guys.
btw, is this mccain cartoon supposed to be an insult because it
makes him look pretty awesome. how dare you portray mccain as a
swashbuckling soldier who resisted torture and is found
irresistible by women!
|7.18.08 @ 12:41PM|#
That's outrageous- cancel my subscription, immediately. And send the refund to Code Pink.
|7.18.08 @ 12:48PM|#
The girl with her face in McCain's lap is Jane
Fonda.
Hey, if I had vintage 1972 Jane Fonda blowing me, I'd be giving a
big thumbs up, too. Holy crap, was she hot in her day.
|7.18.08 @ 12:52PM|#
scratch,
"muslim," "extremist," "ak-47," "obama," and
"radical."
I hear you, and there's a lot of sense to what you're saying, but I
think the horse has left the barn on that one.
That was the thinking behind Shrum's advice to Kerry not to hit
back against the Swift Boat guys.
PC|7.18.08 @ 12:58PM|#
I don't get the connection to the Obama cover. Barack Obama really isn't Muslim nor is his wife a black panther.
|7.18.08 @ 1:21PM|#
it's so boring to argue with reasonable people. agreed that
there is a danger in not responding to rumors, but this is far
different from the swift boaters. this is an isolated political
cartoon on the cover of a magazine that no swing voters read, not a
well-funded, well-coordinated 50-state tv and radio campaign to
impugn military service.
also, shrum has terrible instincts, so it's wise to just do the
opposite of what he does.
|7.18.08 @ 1:41PM|#
it's so boring to argue with reasonable people.
You know who else thought it was boring to argue with reasonable
people?
Hitler! ;-)
this is an isolated political cartoon on the cover of a
magazine that no swing voters read, not a well-funded,
well-coordinated 50-state tv and radio campaign to impugn military
service. This cartoon is, but the content portrayed is
absolutely a part of a well-funded, well-coordinated 50 state
campaign to smear Obama.
also, shrum has terrible instincts, so it's wise to just do the
opposite of what he does. Srsly. Maybe he's good at strategy
and message, but he has no tactical sense whatsoever. He would have
told Barack Obama to just ignore the Jeremiah Wright stuff. "It'll
blow over, don't even dignify with a response. A speech? That's a
terrible idea!"
|7.18.08 @ 1:44PM|#
Guy,
Ask her to sign a pack of welding rods, then take a picture with
your cell phone.
It makes her even hotter that she's always giving him that "You're
not going to get any sleep tonight" look on stage.
We haven't had any hawt in the White House in 45 years.
|7.18.08 @ 2:08PM|#
If that were a real cover I'd think it was funny as hell. But then I thought the Obama one was funny too.
|7.18.08 @ 2:20PM|#
This cartoon is, but the content portrayed is absolutely a
part of a well-funded, well-coordinated 50 state campaign to smear
Obama.
Look, joe, can we finally stop talking about the Clintons? They
lost the nomination.
|7.18.08 @ 2:40PM|#
Yes, Mr. Thacker, you can stop bringing up the Clintons in
conversations about the racist rumor-mongering on LGF, FreeRepublic
and NRO any time you want.
The idea that they were running that trash at the behest of the
Clintons was always implausible, but to continue to push it as this
late date is just pathetic.
*|7.18.08 @ 4:21PM|#
R C Dean | July 18, 2008, 12:48pm | #
Hey, if I had vintage 1972 Jane Fonda blowing me, I'd be giving a
big thumbs up, too.
If you had ANYONE blowing you...
|7.18.08 @ 5:14PM|#
We haven't had any hawt in the White House in 45
years.
And we're not gonna get it this time around, either.
Al Swearengen|7.19.08 @ 4:22PM|#
Barack Obama | July 18, 2008, 12:01pm | #
stop picking on me guys... it's not fair.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings.
The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more
punishment in store. Stand it like a man and give some back.
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