David Weigel | July 17, 2008
On June 19, Barack Obama opted out of public financing. I interpreted this as a sign that his coffers were overflowing, and that the combined efforts of NPR pledgers, English lit professors, union heavies and chastened ex-Hillary donors (b-b-b-but I wanted to be ambassador to Laos!) would power him to a massive fundraising haul. Smart conservative Patrick Ruffini disagreed:
The rumor now is that Obama has raised $30 million. A number like this not be a problem but for the fact that Obama opted out of the public financing system with a smug look on his face that suggested a gusher of cash in the offing. With him formally capturing the nomination in June, that doesn't seem to be happening. In fact, Obama's opting out is starting to look at best premature and at worst a complete strategic blunder... if it were really impressive, they wouldn't be holding it back.
And so on—there's more throat-clearing at the link. The hot topic at a conservative book party I went to last week (among the politicos, at least) was whether Obama's fundraising would dip below the $22 million he raised in May.
Because of your generosity and commitment, we're reporting to the press today that this campaign is in a very strong financial position. In the month of June, supporters like you helped raise $52 million.
Basically the right and the press got snowed: Obama held back the numbers to lower expectations and to shame McCain's total of $22 million. For some perspective, look at John Kerry's fundraising in 2004. In June, he raised $34 million. So Obama's raising two-thirds more than Kerry was, and McCain is raising one-third less. It's even darker for McCain when you realize he raised only $1 million more in June than he raised in May—Obama beat his May total by about 150 percent.
I bring this up not only to shame the complacent right that is ever expecting something to fly out of space and derail Obama, but to tramp some more dirt on the grave of the public financing system. Yesterday, Ben Smith reported the latest matching funds released by the FEC.
John Edwards: $4,057,452.60
Joe Biden: $1,135,035.94
Dennis Kucinich: $970,521.05
Chris Dodd: $514,173.62
Ralph Nader: $411,187.85
Duncan Hunter: $353,527.32
Those numbers for Hunter and Nader are comparable to what they actually raised in the primary season—more than Nader raised, I believe. Anyone want to argue that the FEC was reflecting the voice of the people? Anyone still want to argue for this system?
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Yawn, Corruption is Bliss isnt it. Politicians are clearly
bought and paid for in today's politics. I bet the Fore fathers
(real politicians who actually CARED about the Sheeple) are rolling
over in their graves today!
JT
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com
I bet the Fore fathers (real politicians who actually CARED
about the Sheeple) are rolling over in their graves
today!
Someone who clearly has never read the Federalist Papers.
Or heard of the Whiskey Rebellion.
Or read, well, *anything* written by Alexander Hamilton (which of
course is already partially covered by the aforementioned
Federalist Papers).
[Sigh.]
The forefathers were human. HUMAN!!!
Anyone still want to argue for this system?
I'm sure some idiot will show up to defend it. ~ 1.4 megabucks to
publicize Nader, Kucinich, and Hunter views. I'd rather spend it on
another teapot museum.
You're leaving out one important number -- the amount of cash
the RNC has on hand. That plus McCain's money is in excess of
Obama/DNC's cash.
If Obama's thinking he's gonna buy this election, he's got another
thing commin'.
I really wonder if either POTUS candidate really matters this
year.
1) Obama - Will almost certainly be shot dead by some racist inbred
redneck moron, and quickly, if he wins leaving us with his
VP.
2) McCain is older than god and is extremely unlikely to survive
his term, leaving us with his VP.
You're leaving out one important number -- the amount of
cash the RNC has on hand.
Very true. The RNC's resilience, relative to the DNC's weakness, is
keeping McCain from being swamped. But the Democratic House and
Senate campaign committees are raising more than their Republican
counterparts, so the RNC might have to dip in to rescue Gordon
Smith or John Sununu in the final weeks. Also, my point isn't that
Obama will swamp McCain as much as that he did not make a mistake
getting off public financing.
ktc2 --
I believe this has occurred to the people running for office.
That's why they are being uncommonly coy about their veep
picks.
Obama - Will almost certainly be shot dead by some racist
inbred redneck moron, and quickly, if he wins leaving us with his
VP
Are you actually serious?
Are you actually serious?
Oh come on, Epi. This hasn't occurred to you as a distinct
possibility? If someone is *really* determined to off him (or,
really, anyone), it really doesn't matter how many Secret Service
agents you put around him.
I agree that you can't stop someone really determined. But when
you consider the hatred for Bush and the fact that nobody has offed
him, do you think the charming Obama is going to get snuffed?
Of course it's possible, but is it probable? I doubt it.
But when you consider the hatred for Bush and the fact that
nobody has offed him, do you think the charming Obama is going to
get snuffed?
Two facts distinguish the cases.
1.) Most of the people who hate Bush are unarmed whiners. The
residual group is a bunch of armed whiners who never have and never
will shoot at a human being.
2.) Obama is perceived by the hypothetical flyover state hick as
not just a bad presidential candidate, but also as a *Muslim* (who
are, let's not forget, *teh ENEMY* and for whom even torture is too
good).
I think the Secret Service has gotten much better since
Kennedy.
Well they sure as shit don't put the top down on the caddy
anymore.
I would think that the vast majority of people who hate Bush the most are also terrified of guns. The Obama-haters, not so much.
I would honestly like to know how the Secret Service protects against snipers. You'd think a really good one could get anybody who ever steps outside.
Epis,
Charming or not, he's not Caucasian and that is all the reason in
the world for these ignorant racist types to kill him.
Their hatred is irrational and routinely manifests as violence and
murder throughout the world.
I know, I'd like to think we have "evolved" beyond that and I do
think many have but there are still places in the USA where the
majority have not and they will react violently to a black
POTUS.
Jews and Bankers run the world.
If Obama deviates from the bipartisan "defence of Israel at any
cost" foreign policy line, there is no doubt in my mind that his
assasination will be forthcoming.
There is no mercy for anyone who leaves Israel out in the cold.
@ktc2
McCains mother is still alive so unless he was born when she was 8
- McCain will easily live through two terms.
And I don't buy the whole Obama is going to be assassinated bit
thrown out - people have an irrational hatred of every
president.
Tim,
I think you underestimate the violence and hatred of America's
racists.
I spent too many years of my youth in a place called Highland
County Virginia which borders on Pendleton County West Virginia.
Trust me, some of these inbred retards are already plotting it and
there's probably been a boom in engraving business caused solely by
bullets with the name "Obama".
"Obama is perceived by the hypothetical flyover state hick as
not just a bad presidential candidate, but also as a *Muslim* (who
are, let's not forget, *teh ENEMY* and for whom even torture is too
good)."
Huh? Who are you talking about? Did you just make this up?
This isn't the first time I've heard people pontificating about
assassination. I'm curious where that even comes from. You sound
just like the rightwingers who swear Hillary is a KGB plant.
"there's probably been a boom in engraving business caused
solely by bullets with the name "Obama"."
Yeah. I bet.
I think you underestimate the violence and hatred of
America's racists.
And I think you overestimate their intelligence, planning skills,
and willingness to go to Supermax for life just to kill a
half-white guy.
Huh? Who are you talking about? Did you just make this
up?
I do believe that particular arrangement of words is original to
me, but the sentiment behind them is on full and constant display
quite often.
And oddly enough, the part of my post you quote has little to do
with assassination. Just a point about how today's hicks view Obama
as a (crypto-) Muslim, the Muslim as the Other, and the Other as
the enemy. Once upon a not long time ago, you could substitute
"Black" or "Jew" or "Catholic" for "Muslim" with ease.
And as we all know, the enemy should be destroyed with extreme
prejudice.
I think the Secret Service has gotten much better since
Kennedy.
Didn't Reagan get shot ?
Obama's safety is more threatened because he is NOT a Muslim than because he might have some Muslim influence (to the extent a "father" who ran off on a child can have an influence), or be considered "Muslim" by some hick with email. To radical non-allah carte Muslims, Obama is the lowest of the lows. He is worse than a pork-eating atheist Jew. He was born to a Muslim father, but rejected Islam for what must be the superior faith, Christianity. Because he rejected the false religion for the love of the one true God whose son is Jesus Christ, Obama is an apostate. And he is an apostate who likes to remind everyone how Christian he is and one who does not like to be photographed with Muslims lest he catch their icky Islamic germs.
bigbigslacker --
Stop me if I'm wrong, but I was always under the impression that
Muslim religious identification worked through the maternal line,
like in Judaism. If that's the case, then apostasy is not a
legitimate charge against him even when playing with
ultra-shitty-stupid religious rules.
Besides, his father was reportedly an Atheist before Obama was
born, so even if it works through the paternal line, the charge
doesn't fly. His father might be on the hook for apostasy if he
wasn't already dead and if he actually gave a fuck, which he
obviously didn't since he didn't get deaded by a Muslim extremist,
to my knowledge. Unless they are also super-duper secret agents
adept at assassination via automobile collision.
I would honestly like to know how the Secret Service
protects against snipers. You'd think a really good one could get
anybody who ever steps outside.
I know when President Clinton spoke at my school's graduation (year
before I graduated), they cleared off a huge area and did a sweep
of anywhere they had a sight line. The only way someone could do it
would be across the river, from about a kilometer out. It was a hot
summer day, so the changing breeze from land-water-land would muck
things up. Not to mention when they drive there are multiple
identical cars.
Because he rejected the false religion for the love of the
one true God whose son is Jesus Christ, Obama is an
apostate.
Sometimes, as shown above, indoctrination takes.
Sometimes, it doesn't.
LMNOP,
Nope, Islam is passed on the paternal line. However, he's not
technically an apostate because he was raised Christian. The moment
of choice is puberty.
"Indoctrination takes"
Takes away your money
Takes away your time
Takes away your critical thinking
But, I'm not indoctrinated. I don't even have a Masters.
LMNOP,
Nope, Islam is passed on the paternal line. However, he's not
technically an apostate because he was raised Christian. The moment
of choice is puberty.
Thanks for the info! That makes sense; all those Abrahamic
religions emphasize choice as the crux of moral culpability, and
had a definite cutoff age for responsibility.
But, I'm not indoctrinated. I don't even have a
Masters.
Subtle comebacks are an underappreciated art form.
I would honestly like to know how the Secret Service
protects against snipers.
Counter-snipers, I assume. Seriously.
Politics is like football: we're finding people to root for, not picking candidates because we believe they'll be effective.
If someone were really determined and didn't mind dying/going to
jail for life, they could get a shot off at the President, yes.
That doesn't mean they'd hit, and if they did hit, it doesn't mean
the President would die.
My feeling is that if Obama becomes President, he'll be at higher
risk of an assassination attempt than the average President, but
I'd still put my money on him surviving the four or eight years in
office. (And, obviously, that's a good thing).
DNC raised 22 million. Candidate + Party is something like 92
million, versus McCain + RNC's 95 million.
McCain probably shit a break this morning. The GOP is used to a
massive cash advantage. I don't think they know how to compete on
an even field.
My feeling is that if Obama becomes President, he'll be at
higher risk of an assassination attempt than the average President,
but I'd still put my money on him surviving the four or eight years
in office. (And, obviously, that's a good thing).
Oh, I would too. My thing is, since there is a heightened risk, the
VP choice is all the more important.
Of course if he were to pick Hillary . . .
That gunshot might come from close range, right behind/beside
him.
The more money they raise, the more they have to bow to special
interests, big corporations, etc., after they are elected. The
crisis in this country has been long in the making and at the brink
of collapse, mostly thanks to the corporate greed with no ethics
and no accountability, but manipulate people with pseudo moral and
empty promises to line big execs pockets. The rich are getting
richer and the poor are getting poorer, and the middle class is
vanishing in lightening speed.
The only way to take back the government is to vote for someone
who's NOT connected to this two-party sellout. WWW.VOTENADER.COM.
It's time for a REAL change.
My feeling is that if Obama becomes President, he'll be at
higher risk of an assassination attempt than the average
President
Mebbe. I just don't pick up the frothing hate vibe WRT Obama that I
do with Bush. At least not yet. Maybe you have to actually be
President to be hated like that.
His
"burn rate" is equally staggering.
Like the old saying goes, "The more you make the more you
need!"
The only way to take back the government is to vote for someone
who's NOT connected to this two-party sellout. WWW.VOTENADER.COM.
It's time for a REAL change.
Like the old saying goes, "Know your audience!"
I just don't pick up the frothing hate vibe WRT Obama that I
do with Bush
The concern isn't about his political opponents - the tens of
millions of regular conservatives - having a "Derangement
Syndrome."
It's a few thousand, maybe tens of thousands, of neo-Nazis,
Klansmen, or "Phineas Priests" scattered across this country.
I heard Pelosi speak a couple of times before winning her seat
and I was impressed with her - but she turned out to be a great
disappointment - she flip-flops on issues just like Obama - they
have the flip-flop syndrome.
On Monday they say one thing and by Tuesday it changes to another
thing --- they contradict themselves and they are good at giving
speeches --- we get so duped by great speeches --- look at these
people's track records.
Read Obama's books --- look at Chicago --- his district --- who has
he helped?
Obama is in love with Obama and America is in trouble if he becomes
president. Obama speaks of "change" --- how can he change anything
--- he's being lead by the ears by the old-school network --- they
own him --- they write his speeches and direct him like a
puppet.
WE NEED TO REPLACE DEMS IN CONGRESS!
VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN IN 2008.
I think you underestimate the violence and hatred of America's
racists.
I spent too many years of my youth in a place called Highland
County Virginia which borders on Pendleton County West Virginia.
Trust me, some of these inbred retards are already plotting it and
there's probably been a boom in engraving business caused solely by
bullets with the name "Obama".
The thing is, most of these people are, as you pointed out, quite
inbred. I've lived around that sort, and while some of them might
have the blind hate to attempt such an act, none of them have the
intelligence. My experience has been that inbred white trash types,
the sort I'm sure you are referring to, are not just stupid, they
are staggeringly stupid, to the point of barely being human. (I'm
from the Missouri Ozarks BTW)
Since Obama has a muslim name, and a muslim father, yet is not a
muslim, then he is, by some readings, an apostate former muslim. Of
the Billion muslims in the world, perhaps only 10,000 would
consider it their job to murder him for being apostate.
So, if, heaven forfend, Obama is elected, and was murdered by
muslim(s)...Could we THEN fight the war on terror with the
Democrats on OUR side?
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