Everything's Gonna Be All White

On Monday I blogged about the rumors of a video that shows Michelle Obama making hateful comments about "whitey." I'm now convinced that Larry Johnson, the blogger who's done the most to make the rumors public, is spreading misinformation. At the least, he's been unable to stick to his story.

Johnson starts getting attention for this on May 26, recounting intel from "someone in touch with a senior Republican."

I know for a fact that Barack and Michelle Obama would like the tape of her blasting “whitey” during a rant at Jeremiah Wright’s church to never see the light of day.

On the night of May 31, Johnson fires up the speculation by promising an update by 9 a.m. on June 2. "Now I know why people who have seen the videotape say it is stunning." The blogs start churning, and reporters fish around. On June 1, Roger Stone appears on Fox News and says he's heard rumors about a Michelle Obama tape. Gleefully, a NoQuarter blogger completes the Mobius strip and claims Stone has given Johnson "new credence."

A little before 8 a.m. on June 2, Johnson reveals what he learned from "five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape."

It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!!

The bloggy frenzy increases, with a few possible "transcripts" of the speech making the rounds. Booman posts a theoretical transcript ("from what I understand") in which Obama says "why'd he" and it sounds like she's saying "whitey." Blogger MyTownTalks posts part of "an e-mail with part of the alleged speech," in which Obama says both "whitey" and "why'd he," and rants about "the white man" who "let Katrina happen."

Later in the day, Johnson gleefully updates:

Major Obama donors went to the campaign demanding explanations after the posting of my story on No Quarter about the contents of the videotape confirmed to me by several reliable sources, all Republicans with access to knowledge but who do not know each other. So the campaign created a would-be transcript of the video it says doesn’t exist. In the Obama campaign produced transcript Michelle says “why’d he” instead of “whitey.” Very clever. Then the campaign sent this transcript to key Obamaton bloggers to circulate. And the campaign sent it to the donors to prevent them from having a nervous breakdown.

On the morning of June 3, B-list Democratic pundit Bob Beckel goes on Fox News and speculates that "there might be a big shoe dropping on Michelle Obama tomorrow." Later that night, after all the polls are closed, SusanUnPC posts a photo of Michelle Obama at a June 28, 2004 luncheon from the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition convention in Chicago, posing alongside Louis Farrakhan's wife. It kicks off another wave of speculation. On June 4, a blogger at "HillBuzz" posts a new explanation of what's on the tape and claims it was actually recorded at this luncheon.

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that's when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who's seen this.

Louis Farrakhan isn't there, nor is Hurricane Katrina (which happened a year after this luncheon, of course) mentioned. Nonetheless, Johnson links the post as "BREAKING NEWS from Hillbuzz."

I am not trying to steal thunder from HillBuzz. That blogger is breaking important news.

National Review's Jim Geraghty finds the schedule of the Rainbow/PUSH event. First, the event was held at a Sheraton 14 miles away from Trinity United, yet Hillbuzz claims that Trinity United was selling a tape of this on the church web site. Second, Bill Clinton spoke at the conclusion of the conference, days after this event, yet Hillbuzz theorized that Obama was raging against Clinton. Third, Obama wasn't a featured speaker at the event: Rev. Jesse Jackson was. Michelle Obama was, with freed POW Shoshanna Johnson, a "special guest." There was no panel. It seems strange that the state senator's wife would give a 30-minute speech during a 2-hour luncheon at which she wasn't even the speaker. Later in the day, Johnson whines about the pro-Obama bloggers causing a "diversion."

I learned last week that Republicans have a tape of Michelle in a racist rant. She does so while part of a panel discussion. I do not know where this occurred.

That's my emphasis because two days earlier Johnson reported that Obama was sitting with Louis Farrakhan at Trinity United, and a week before that Johnson was already reporting that Obama's rant was at Trinity United. Johnson starts walking back the story by sputtering that "with or without said tape, we do know that the Obamas participated for almost 20 years in a church that espoused racism." But "without said tape," there's no story. Let's rewind it back. Johnson, on June 2:

It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church.

Johnson, two days later.

I do not know where this occurred.

In his peddling of this story, Johnson has altered his description of what was in the tape. I e-mailed Johnson, asked about the holes in the HillBuzz story, and called him a liar. He e-mailed me back.

You and Reason in the same sentence? Now that's funny. I don't recall soliciting an email from you so fuck off.

Until he comes out with a video tape that shows at least one of the many rumored "Michelle speeches," I think that's the last we need to hear from Larry Johnson.

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    I said at the time that once the rumor broke, if it didn't show up on Youtube with in 24 hours, it was bunk. As funny as it would be to see Michelle Obama telling us her true feelings about whitey, I would say the chances of this being bogus are about 99%. If Johnson had anything, he would just post the video.

  • T||

    Damn, it's not often we get to start the drinking game with the original post. Good thing I'm off work tomorrow, because if this keeps up it could get rough.

  • Mad Max||

    And the reverse-psychology campaign to get me to vote for Obama continues, with this smear job on the Mrs.

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    I know for a fact that Larry Johnson would like the tape of him fucking sheep in drag to never see the light of day.

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    Larry Johnson. Class act.

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    Marcvs - In his defense, I did call him a liar. In my defense, he lied.

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    I don't need to see any video of Michelle Obama saying "whitey". If she has sat on a panel with Farrakhan, we can rest assured that she has thought it.

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    Larry Johnson's definition of a "reasonable" argument:

    I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why Barack Obama represents "change" and "hope" for a new future. The White House is currently occupied by an inexperienced man-a nice man-of limited accomplishment who used cocaine as a young adult. And the best answer the Democrats now offer is an inexperienced man who used cocaine as a young adult? That is change?



    Yep, Obama and Bush, two peas in a pod.

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    I'm still waiting for the Karl Rove indictment Larry promised...

  • K.T.||

    johnson sounds like a really classy and quite ignorant guy...

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    The video is real. I saw it myself. Michelle Obama was playing Weesie's sister on the Jeffersons. When Tom and Helen came over she said to George, is Whitey your neighbor.

  • Famous Mortimer||

    Obama has stranger associates than Ron Paul.

  • Dave||

    I don't need to see any video of Michelle Obama saying "whitey", because I know that everyone with darker skin than me is a damn racist.

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    To quote Ray Liota in Goodfellas, "This is real greaseball shit". If the tape doesn't exist, it is disgracful to start a rumor that it does. If the tape does exist, it is even worse not to release it and let the Obamas defend themselves and the people judge for themselves. Regardless of what the truth is, Johnson sucks.

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    ...and then, when you develop your film, you see a picture of Michelle Obama with your toothbrush in her ass.

    Keep it up, jokers.

  • Episiarch||

    Marcvs - In his defense, I did call him a liar. In my defense, he lied.

    Please post the emails in full.

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    I hear Whitey Herzog is suing for libel...

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    Hannity the other day was real slippery about this, he constantly denied being in hold of the tape, but each time he mentioned it he described it like;
    "I am not in possession of the tape that would absolutely make Obama unelectedable and destroy his carrer and reputation with America"
    It was kind of sleezy.

  • Fluffy||

    I don't need to see any video of Michelle Obama saying "whitey". If she has sat on a panel with Farrakhan, we can rest assured that she has thought it.

    Depending on the subject, I'd be happy to sit on a panel with Farrakhan, and I'm probably the whitest person in America.

    By the way, just a general question to white people on the board. If you have never said the word "nigger", have you ever thought it in your head? [Please read the Ginsburg interview posted the other day before replying.]

  • Jesse Walker||

    Two questions:

    1. Setting aside the hard-core Clintonites who were drunk on desperation, did anyone really think this video existed?

    2. You know those people who think any attack on Hillary Clinton just has to be a sign of sexism? What do they think of attacks on Michelle Obama?

  • Metal Messiah||

    My goodness, white people are sensitive, aren't they?

  • Mark Bahner||

    "...what he learned from 'five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape.'"

    Five separate sources who knew people who were friends of people who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape?

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    You and Reason in the same sentence? Now that's funny. I don't recall soliciting an email from you so fuck off.

    What kind of adult talks like that? The last time I heard someone say "Nobody asked you, so fuck off" it came from the lips of my white trash 16-year-old co-worker. What does he expect, no one to talk to him unless he gives them permission to talk?
    What an idiot?

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    You and Reason in the same sentence? Now that's funny. I don't recall soliciting an email from you so fuck off.

    DRINK!

    ...and make it a double for actually being in the article.

  • Mudkipz||

    Zip, zap, zappity-bap! "Reason?!?! More like UNREASON! I FIND IT HILARIOUS THAT YOUR NAME AND REASON APPEARS IN THE SAME SENTENCE! YOU SHOULD CALL YOUR MAGAZINE 'WRONG MAGAZINE' BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS WRONG! I AM LAUGHING AT YOU BECAUSE I HAVE SO LITTLE REGARD FOR YOU!!!!!!"

    I'm sorry, but the First Amendment needs to be tweaked a bit.

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    "Two questions:

    1. Setting aside the hard-core Clintonites who were drunk on desperation, did anyone really think this video existed?

    2. You know those people who think any attack on Hillary Clinton just has to be a sign of sexism? What do they think of attacks on Michelle Obama?"

    Jessee, I didn't know it existed but I wouldn't have been shocked. Michelle Obama is pretty much everything Obama claims not to be. She has chip on her shoulder a mile long and about all of the political judgement of a fence post. Think about it; who in a family generally choses what church you go to and where your kids attend school? The wife generally has more influence on those things. Just a guess, but I bet Michelle had more to do with Obama staying with the good reverend Wright so long than anything else. The idea that she got up with Farakahn and said a bunch of assine offensive things does not take much of a leap of faith to beleive. But, whatever she did or did not say, there sure as hell isn't a tape of it or it would be public by now.

    As far as it being sexist to attack her. Well, you live by identity politics you die by them. So, yes Hillary's supporters are not exactly being consistent in that regard.

  • Episiarch||

    1. Setting aside the hard-core Clintonites who were drunk on desperation, did anyone really think this video existed?

    Maybe the "Neil" types that Cesar was mimicking.

    2. You know those people who think any attack on Hillary Clinton just has to be a sign of sexism? What do they think of attacks on Michelle Obama?

    That this is totally justified. You don't expect logic, I hope.

  • Episiarch||

    Oh, I forgot to add: poor Jesse, hanging out on a Weigel thread because nobody reads his :-(

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    You gotta watch out the sullen, ungrateful ones, eh John? They're plotting against you.

  • ed||

    I hear Whitey Herzog is suing for libel

    Now there's a VP candidate for ya'.

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    I've actually been called "whitey" before and I wasn't really offended so much as perplexed. It didn't really have any emotional punch to it for me. The first time I was called "cracker" I actually laughed out loud because it sounded like a slur from the 50's.

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    You know those people who think any attack on Hillary Clinton just has to be a sign of sexism? What do they think of attacks on Michelle Obama?"

    They are contrite over here, but just barely...

  • ed||

    OBAMA/WHITEY '08

    Har.

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    By the way, just a general question to white people on the board. If you have never said the word "nigger", have you ever thought it in your head? [Please read the Ginsburg interview posted the other day before replying.]

    Does it count to have said it when referencing what someone else said, or when reading a play? If not, then no, and no.

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    I've said the word while quoting somebody, for instance, while singing along to music.

    Does that count?

    I don't recall ever actually thinking that about a person, or a group of people. I've never had to bite it back when arguing with someone.

  • No Name Guy||

    I heard Barack Obama has fathered two black children!

  • Episiarch||

    But how many people here have said "whigger"? Where's the outrage?

    Ice ice baby...

  • Jesse Walker||

    John: It sounded to me like someone was trying to cram too much into the story. Michelle Obama denounced "whitey" -- and Farrakhan was there! And it was at Trinity church! And she channeled Sister Souljah on black-on-black crime!

    It's not as bad as someone claiming they spotted John Kerry, Jane Fonda, and Saddam Hussein sharing a laugh after they spit on a Vietnam veteran, but it's got that same sort of feel.

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    I've actually been called "whitey" before and I wasn't really offended so much as perplexed.

    I like it when I am referred to as "The Man"

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    "five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape."

    Ya know, the friend of a friend told me...poodle in the microwave...

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    "It's not as bad as someone claiming they spotted John Kerry, Jane Fonda, and Saddam Hussein sharing a laugh after they spit on a Vietnam veteran, but it's got that same sort of feel."

    But it is pretty close Jessee. That is a good point, the story was always just a little too good in that regard.

  • Fluffy||

    About the "email solicitation" thing -

    The guy posts a blog with a byline that includes his email address.

    If you post a blog, and post your email, you have to my mind solicited email about that blog.

    If you seek to attract media attention to a story, and someone who writes for a magazine emails you a question about your story, you aren't being spammed, dumbass. Johnson = dopey fat bag of shit.

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    I don't know what makes me sicker: Larry Johnson or all the crackers on this board.

    However, is it just possible that Herr Rove and his media brownshirts are waiting until all is "done" between HRC and Obama before springing this?

  • M\'||

    My goodness, white people are sensitive, aren't they?

    Bingo. Can dish it out to the 100th power and can't take a few comments. Hey, I'm whitey and I just laugh as this crap. I don't believe I'll be enslaved. The one's that think that way naturally see themselves in their "enemies".

  • Ryo||

    Obama is half friggen white. Would a black panther loving, white people hating, Louis Farrakhan worshiping woman marry a dude whose half "whitey" himself? Even then, after marrying someone half-white, continue to blame a multitude of social ills on "whitey".

    This doesn't pass the smell test.

  • Oh My||

    Larry Johnson has at least helped one person: Rick Astley.

    The rickroll was already a popular phenomenon, but Larry has given us the perfect opportunity to utilize it for its greatest good.

    After all, we're no strangers to love...

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    Hey, i'm just trying to keep folks down over here...no problems.

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    In Michelle Obama's defense, she was talking about one specific whitey: Whitey Deluca, her ex-manager. He ripped her off for 70 g's.

  • Episiarch||

    If Michelle knows where Whitey Bulger is, the FBI may want to have a chat with her.

  • M\'||

    Obama is half friggen white...

    The one-drop rule still applies! But perhaps now it's reverse drapetomania.

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    However, is it just possible that Herr Rove and his media brownshirts are waiting until all is "done" between HRC and Obama before springing this?

    It is possible, and I would put the chances of such a tape's existence at higher than 1% (as someone above guessed). But the fact is, no one can present any half-way believable evidence. Not only has no one claimed to see a copy of the tape, even Larry's "five independent" sources are all people who have spoken to OTHER people who have seen the tape. No one has spoken up who claims to have actually seen it.

    If it exists anywhere, at least a few people have to have access to it. Even if "Rove" or some other evil strategist has it, at least a few staffers and tech-types would have access. These days, it's hard to keep stuff like that off YouTube for too long.

    Actually, now that I think about it, 1% seems about right.

  • Steve Verdon||

    ...and then, when you develop your film, you see a picture of Michelle Obama with your toothbrush in her ass.



    lmao. Thanks.

  • BakedPenguin||

    I've said the word while quoting somebody, for instance, while singing along to music.

    I was singing along once to "Holiday in Cambodia" while a black friend of mine was in my truck. I think I lost some points that day.

  • Whitey||

    "Hey! She can't say that! That's our word!"

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    Ryo,

    When a white liberal discusses a problem in our society, it means they hate America.

    When a black liberal discusses a problem in our society, it means they hate white people AND America.

    The people who think that Michelle Obama would give a speech railing against "Whitey," think that John Kerry hates people in the military.

    They WANT to believe, and they're good at it.

  • thoreau||

    Being a big fan of First Lady Martha Logan, I am actually kind of disappointed that there isn't a tape of Michelle Obama saying wacky things.

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    I like it when I am referred to as "The Man"

    CT,
    Watch out, I have a plan to stick it to you.*

    If Obama wins, get ready for four years of this. It'll be like Juanita Broaddrick plus Vince Foster in conjunction with the reverse vampires, all rolled into one.

    * Wow, that sounded a lot more pervy, and less Dolemitesque, than intended.

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    I'm so tired of this stuff. Can't they observe some sort of week of rest or something. I mean, the guy just finished his primary - let him breathe a little.

  • Abdul||

    By the way, just a general question to white people on the board. If you have never said the word "nigger", have you ever thought it in your head? [Please read the Ginsburg interview posted the other day before replying.]

    Just now I was thinking that a tape of Cindy McCain singing "My N*ggas" would be kind of ironic.

  • Orange Line Special||

    Johnson has made it clear all along that he doesn't have the tape, and I don't think minor discrepancies in the various tellings guarantee that the tape doesn't exist.

    Plus, something I read from a reputable source indicates that not too many people may have seen the tape of the event in the first place. And, the fact that the local media was at the event means nothing.

    Whether there's this tape or not, don't worry, there's plenty more out there.

    The huge plus side to all this is when everything breaks it's going to clean out a lot of useless people from our pundit and politician class.

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    "five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape."



    That's evidence. Indisputable Evidence. Damning evidence. The Hillary Fringe tried to warn of us of this, but we did not listen. Damn, it's going to be four years of whitey.....

    p.s. A friend of a friend heard his cousin say that his neighbor learned that Ron Paul is going to clinch the nomination.

  • Naga Sadow||

    Damn!!! I thought for sure that this would be a whitey hatin' thread . . . sigh . . .

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    I can't believe "Grandmama" would pull something like this. I used to enjoy seeing him play alongside Alonzo Mourning and even thought he played well for the Knicks.

    Fun fact: in all seriousness, either the tape exists and Johnson is being played for a fool, or more likely, the tape doesn't exist and Johnson is being played for a fool.

  • Episiarch||

    Hey LoneWacko, maybe you could interview Johnson. Maybe that would stop your whining to Jesse about lack of access. Also, him telling you to fuck off would be warranted.

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    "Not only has no one claimed to see a copy of the tape, even Larry's "five independent" sources are all people who have spoken to OTHER people who have seen the tape. No one has spoken up who claims to have actually seen it"

    So they go ahead and MAKE UP a "transcript" of what Michelle said, and then get snotty about Obama peeps countering with "it was probably 'why'd he' not 'whitey'" - on their MADE UP FROM THIN AIR TAPE!!!

    It's like a group of 14 year old girls arguing about who likes who. Or better yet that Superman would beat Mighty Mouse, because Superman is a real guy.

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    I don't think minor discrepancies in the various tellings guarantee that the tape doesn't exist.

    I thought the same thing about the existence of Bigfoot. Just 'cause one of the tapes is a hoax doesn't mean Bigfoot's a hoax. He could just be hiding.

    Whether there's this tape or not, don't worry, there's plenty more out there.

    The huge plus side to all this is when everything breaks it's going to clean out a lot of useless people from our pundit and politician class.

    (cough) lack of irony (cough)

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    Now, we have to "prove that the tape doesn't exist."

    Because, obviously, it's so incredibly likely that Michelle Obama, Esq., Princeton, would gon on a rant against "Whitey."

    You can tell, because she talks about there problems in America, and she's black, and sometimes behaves in a manner that isn't humble enough for some people's taste.

  • Fluffy||

    The huge plus side to all this is when everything breaks it's going to clean out a lot of useless people from our pundit and politician class.

    You're soooooo right. It will be just like when Bill Kristol and the Kagans were drummed out of punditry because of their Iraq war errors....

    Oh wait. Oops.

  • Zeb||

    This is so silly. Honestly, a lot of times I want to rail against whitey. And I'm a white guy from New Hampshire.

  • ||

    The huge plus side to all this is when everything breaks it's going to clean out a lot of useless people from our pundit and politician class.

    That would require getting rid of all of them. Unfortunately, I don't believe it will clean out any of them.

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    But she actually said that she hates America, didn't she? I swear I heard her say that! After that, who knows what else she *could* have said. She would probably give money to Osama Bin Laden! Actually I think I heard that somewhere.... Yes, she most definitely gave money to Osama Bin Laden!

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    Maybe Big Foot has the tape?

  • ||

    If we're going to discuss weird hypotheticals, I'd rather go down to the local bar and debate what team would be better, the all time greatest Lakers vs. the all time greatest Celtics. Who starts at center for the Lakers: Mikan, Kareem, Wilt or Shaq? Can I make Mikan the 4?

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    I said at the time that once the rumor broke, if it didn't show up on Youtube with in 24 hours, it was bunk.


    John, you have hit it on the nose.

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    Watch out, I have a plan to stick it to you.*

    Uhmm...Ewwwwwwww!

    Stay the fuck away from me, Mo!! :)

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    and sometimes behaves in a manner that isn't humble enough for some people's taste.

    I believe the phrase you are looking for is :
    "doesn't know her place" :)

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    Who starts at center for the Lakers: Mikan, Kareem, Wilt or Shaq?

    It would have to be Wilt. Great player and great lady-bedder. This guy is everything the NBA stands for.

  • D.A. Ridgely ||

    So, wait a minute, let me get this straight. We're going to start insisting on facts for this election cycle?

    Was there a memo or something?

  • Peter Griffin||

    There's a whole lotta crackers in here.

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    Oh, Reinmoose, I don't know if she said she hates America. I don't know if she gave money to Osama bin Laden. I don't know what's true and whats not true.

    All I know is, with all of these allegations flying around, she ought to be less uppity, and more grateful for the enormous unfair advantages enjoyed by women born into poor black families on the South Side of Chicago.

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    Wait a minute, Lewish Farrakhan?

    Aaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!...oops.

    I wet 'em.

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    All I know is, with all of these allegations flying around, she ought to be less uppity, and more grateful for the enormous unfair advantages enjoyed by women born into poor black families on the South Side of Chicago.

    Oh absolutely! These America-haters just don't realize how good they have it. Had she been back in Africa she would still be (insert incredibly racist, sterotypical thing to say here)

  • Blue||

    Hmmmm, crackers

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    Basically, people need to put up or shut up. If the tape exists, show us. As far as I am concerned, if they can't show me, they are full of shit.

    I mean, geez, Fox Television was able to fake alien autopsy footage and get huge ratings, is it too much to ask that the conservatives at least find some old low-res footage of Michelle Obama and re-dub the sound? I am not so much insulted by the lies, but that they they aren't even willing to invest the most basic effort into producing an even remotely believable hoax.

  • Seitz||

    Michelle Obama is pretty much everything Obama claims not to be. She has chip on her shoulder a mile long and about all of the political judgement of a fence post.

    Of course, John knows this because of all of the close, personal interactions he's had with the Obamas, and Michelle in particular.

  • Seitz||

    Whether there's this tape or not, don't worry, there's plenty more out there.

    And if you needed any more proof that this is all a load of crap, well, now Lone Dipshit is board. Pretty much seals the deal right there.

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    I exchanged e-mails with a former Nigerian cabinet minister who said that he has the tape and only needs about $5,000 to bring it over to the USA for everybody to see.

  • Mr Anonymous||

    and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa.

    Strictly speaking, there is a little bit of truth to this, but not for the reasons progressives (or fake Michelle) think.

  • Bronwyn||

    atrevete said it already...

    The whole story reads like the week before a dance at my junior high school.

    I heard it from a guy who heard from another guy who says he saw it.

    Since when How does shit like that pass muster in journalistic circles?

    (I realize that the "since when" is a silly question although your answers may be amusing.)

  • thoreau||

    ChrisO is full of shit. The person with the tape is the nephew of the Nigerian Cabinet Minister. The Minister was killed last year by rebels. The nephew is the one who wants to move the tape, and he needs $10k.

    I think that if I tighten my belt this month I can make this happen. I'm sure that the book deals and speaking fees will more than justify my $10k investment.

  • Bronwyn||

    you're both full of shit. I've got an e-mail from the Nigerian Cabinet Minister's widow, and she wants to move the tape so she can pay for her cancer treatments so their 13 children don't become orphans.

    She's willing to send me the tape and $750,000 if I only send her $10,000 and Sean Hannity's home phone number.

  • Episiarch||

    You're all full of shit.

    That is all.

  • ||

    I exchanged e-mails with a former Nigerian cabinet minister

    What about the Cabinet Minister's Wife?! ;) ;) ;)

  • ||

    It was kind of sleezy.

    Saying Hannity is kind of sleazy is like saying the sun is kind of hot.

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    ...and then, Michelle Obama gave him a present, and told him not to open it until I got home. He couldn't wait, so he opened it on the plane, and it was a little black coffin and a note...

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    ...reading "C-I-L my landlord."

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    Now, we have to "prove that the tape doesn't exist."

    I agree, joe, its ridiculous and unfair. You can't prove a negative.

    Just like Bush having to prove that he never went AWOL.

  • M\'||

    "You can't prove a negative"? How zen. I can't to this day figure why anyone would seriously use that statement.

    I'm just crapping up the comments today because I'm stuck on a solution to something else anyway and I feel entitled.

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    There was documentary proof that Bush skipped his Guard duty, RC. And the Texas House Speaker at the time, talking about how he got him into the Champagne Division in the first place.

    Not quite the same thing as "this guy I know knows this guy who heard of someobody who saw a tape..."

    Nice try, though. Hey, look over there!

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    Her sitting on a panel with Farrakhan is like Cindy McCain sitting on a panel with David Duke. Why is ther no outcry or backlash. Because she's black?

  • ||

    T, first read the post more carefully. Second, "Louis" Farrakhan, old bigot he may be, whether you like it or not (probably not) is not quite the marginalized figure Duke is.

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    And the "because he/she's black" thing is so played. So played.

  • ||

    Let's see. Magic Johnson, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (power forward) and Wilt Chamberlain (center) versus Bob Cousy, John Havlicek, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Bill Russell.

    I think I would pick the Celtics.

  • ||

    Who would the coaches be? Phil Jackson or Pat Riley? Bill Russell or Red Auerbach?

    I think I would pick Jackson and Auerbach, respectively.

  • ||

    Michelle Obama is pretty much everything Obama claims not to be. She has chip on her shoulder a mile long and about all of the political judgement of a fence post. Think about it; who in a family generally choses what church you go to and where your kids attend school? The wife generally has more influence on those things. Just a guess, but I bet Michelle had more to do with Obama staying with the good reverend Wright so long than anything else. The idea that she got up with Farakahn and said a bunch of assine offensive things does not take much of a leap of faith to beleive.

    Wow. You sound very certain of your deductions when they are based on nothing but a gut-feeling of a person you have never met and barely seen on TV.

    Keep up the skepticism.

  • ||

    As for bench strength, the Celitics would have Bill Walton, Nate Archibald, K.C. Jones, Sam Jones, Dave Cowens and Robert Parish. The Lakers would have Kobe Bryant, James Worthy, Shaquille O'Neal, George Mikan, Bob McAdoo and Gail Goodrich.

    A slight edge for the Lakers.

  • Zeb||

    M,
    "You can't prove a negative" might better be stated as "you can't empirically demonstrate a negative", bu tin any case, it's not "zen" or anything froofy. It's just true.

  • ||

    John,
    That edge is a lot bigger if you get the Bill Walton that played for the Celtics (bad feet and all) rather than all-time Bill Walton. Otherwise, the Lakers get the Mailman and the Glove. I would probably change your starting lineup to have Shaq start at center of Chamberlain. Not because Shaq is better, but Chamberlain is pwned by Russell. Shaq's power game would do a number on Russell.

    I'd probably also drop McAdoo for Cooper. The Lakers need a sharpshooter/stopper off the bench and Coop would fit the bill perfectly. Plus, there are already too many front court players on your roster.

  • ||

    Please, if such a video existed, don't you guys think the Clintons would have had it blazing across the wires? Get real! What Larry Johnson needs to do is find Jesus and a real job!

  • ||

    I won't be voting for Obama, but this sort of crap has no place in the public political discussion. The only thing that would lend credence to this claim is to make the video public. The only reason to make such a claim without showing the evidence is that it's a LIE. I'd like to see a lawsuit against the blogger. People like that need to learn that they can't get away with everything. Back up your claim or pay a stiff penalty! That's why libel is illegal.

  • ||

    THERE IS A TAPE BUT OBAMA'S NATION OF ISLAM THUGS WHO ARE LACED INSIDE HIS ORGANIZATION PAYROLL, CONFISCATED IT QUICKLY...

    WAKE UP AMERICA, THE FARRAKHAN ADMINISTRATION IS COMING TO TOWN

  • ||

    Obama's last interview on GMA shows that this tape is real: Obama was dead serious when he said to leave his wife alone. Oooo, what's he going to do, send the Nation of Islam goons to beat up the Republicans?

    I know that just the possibility that the tape exists sends shivers down the spine of all you Obama lovers, but that's the price you pay for supporting this inexperienced, unvetted, racist idiot who thinks there are 57 states in the Union.

    The tape is in Republican hands: do you think Karl Rove is stupid enough to release the tape now before Clinton has conceded?

    The tape will be released in October. Surprise!!!

  • ||

    Concerning Bill Rutherford's (of Princeton Admissions) post : It was not clear from your post whether it was Larry Johnson who was in drag or whether it was the sheep. Please clarify.

  • ||

    "the Clintons would have had t blazing across the wires"

    Yeah, the way they did with Jeremiah Wright's rants when they were on the Hannity show in March of 2007.

  • ||

    Bill Rutherford - help me out here with the picture, was it Larry Johnson or the sheep that was in drag?

  • ||

    When a person's mind is a cesspool of fear, anger and ignorance, not much worth hearing comes out of their mouth. Barack and Michelle are decent, INTELLIGENT people. Barack is half white. Do you REALLY think Michelle is sitting around badmouthing her children's father, grandmother and family? That she'd marry anyone half white if she was such a racist? A little common sense goes a long ways. Hopefully those of you that think these things can find some mental health help. It's obvious you need it. Not all people sink to your level. If you honestly could grasp that fact, you might be able to be a more decent person yourself.

  • ||

    Obama is what conservative whites call "uppity," meaning minorities who actually stand up for themselves.

  • ||

    Even if Michelle Obama said something like that, which I do not believe, I'm not sure it would destroy Barak's presidential campaign. After all, Laura Bush KILLED a guy in high school (I'm not kidding, she ran a stop sign and killed her boyfriend in a car accident, he was in the other car) and we've stilled suffered through two terms of W.

  • PolitiGal1||

    People! Please! Jeesh...Alright I'll spill.
    Now this is just between you me, but Larry Johnson told me in confidence (so Shush) that the reason no one can find the tape is because they've given it to John McCain's illegitimate black child to guard. That kid is good...from what I hear anyway.

  • ||

    LOL...i guess this is the only way McCain can win..idiots making up lies that fill the heads of the idiots who are a part of the electorate. What's funny is those idiots don't vote. So really it's just going no where. Besides, as a black woman who has chastised prejudice members in her own family at times. Black people do not use the term "whitey"...LOL..that is ridiculous. Next thing will be an email about the word "honkey". Give it up

  • ||

    I just want to say that Ayn Rand was a wh*ore.

  • ||

    The tape is in Republican hands: do you think Karl Rove is stupid enough to release the tape now before Clinton has conceded?

    When I was in college I learned that if you make a claim you have to support it with evidence. Where's your's?

    Until some is produced, we'll just assume you are believing this because you want to and your head is deeply buried up your own ass, similar to Larry Johnson.

  • ||

    Whatever you do DON"T let those pitiful things at Hillary44 know that the tape was nothing more than a lie. Those frustrated, angry women are hanging their hearts on it coming out soon. The title of the top post is Waiting on Obama to Concede. ROTFLMAO Just yesterday one of them posted to encourage a hunger strike until the nomination was given to Hillary since it was stolen from her.
    I lay awake at night, filled with worry, that these people drive, vote and bear children.

  • kraig mason||

    my guess is that if a tape existed we would at least see a "teaser" piece to prove that it was real.
    even if the plan is to leak in in october...
    i have no doubt the tape would be worth substantial $$$.
    also, if the incident "was on a Trinity Church DVD", wouldn't that mean that multiple copies existed?
    if so, there would be no way to keep it contained for a later release date.

  • ||

    McCain? getting cred from Obama lies on the net? LOL That's a good since the truth of HIS past life is not real pretty. The hero came fome from the war and his wife had been in a terrible accident that crippled her...after she had remained faithful the 5 years he was in the war...and he left her for his present wife. What a way to say thanks!
    Nope...don't see McCain going for total lies where Obama is concerned.

  • ||

    Maybe the Swift Boat team will invite you out for a drink.

  • ||

    Obama is a shallow candidate, with shallow credentials, shallow oratory, for very shallow folks.

  • ||

    One more minor data point - the TUCC website is archived on the Wayback Machine - I could not find any sign that such a DVD was ever for sale.

  • ||

    So what if she said whitey, or railed against america. Lost of people do that and run for president and win. Look at Bill clinton, his mentor was a known racist and clinton used racism in the 2008 primary race. besides, Obama is the nominee. its too late now. if it comes out now, the obama supporters will go on a rampage and there will be chaos.

  • ||

    This deplorable rumor is now in the MSM in the form of asking Obama about it on his plane. This article does not help. Although, it denounces the rumors and calls the author a "liar" it still spreads the content of the rumor. I do not know what will stop this. Any way to start a vicious completely damnaging rumor about Mr. Johnson as a message to anyh other liars thinking about coming out with this garbage. I recognize some may say "two wrongs don't make a right" Some others may say "fight fire with fire"

  • ||

    Video or no video, it makes no difference, McCain is gonna be elected and there is nothing any of you can do about it. LOLLLLL

  • ||

    Even if the highly unlikely story about what Michelle Obama said in her so-called rant turns out to be true, how does that end the Obama for President campaign? Is Obama responsible for what his wife says about anything? He's the one running for office. No one claimed that Hillary Clinton was a serial man-chaser because of her husband's sexual activities.

  • ||

    Larry Johnson is John McCain on steroids. What a prick.
    My guess? Republicans floated this story as a way of fucking with Democrats a little bit more, just to prolong the agony and increase the divisiveness.
    Larry Johnson, being the dumbass that he is, fell for it hook, line, and sinker. We know this well from 7 years of Bush -- when you're ready to believe the worst about your someone, you'll obsess over the most poorly sourced junk that comes across your inbox.
    Although I haven't given up the ghost on Bush's earpiece.

  • ||

    Who care about his politics!! He is a White Sox supporter. That should give you enough credence about his judgment.

  • ||

    This rumor was floated in early May and no one pick it up. Also does anyone remember the Obama and the gay story another POS floated as real news. This will go on until the election just keep and open mind about these rumors he is not Muslim, he is not anti American and he is a Christian...

  • ||

    "She has chip on her shoulder a mile long and about all of the political judgement of a fence post." So true, and I'm looking forward to hearing many stupid comments from her over the next few years. She's kinda easy on the eyes too.

  • ||

    Fluffy asks:

    "By the way, just a general question to white people on the board. If you have never said the word "nigger", have you ever thought it in your head?"

    Yes, I've said the word nigger and thought it.
    Does it bother me if Michelle said "whitey," "cracker," "white devils," or any other term for caucasians?
    Nope.

    Now I've got a few questions:

    Did you 'think' the word "nigger," in your head before you typed it?

    So it was you Orwell was writing about, eh?

  • ||

    Someone up above stated that he is going to vote for Obama to stop these types of rumours. What a load of crap! That person was going to vote for Obama no matter what. We don't need a video of Obama's wife speaking her mind about "whitey". We know how she feels about "whitey" already and it ain't pretty. I know that the PACs are already getting ready for the middle of October to saturate the playing field with the stuff that we already have on Obama. Its more than enough. But of course there is more out there and it will come to light, its just that Larry Johnson's video isn't one of them. Obama hates America and his wife hates it also. Obama hates people that believe in the Bible and Obama hates people that own guns. Obama hates so much its hard to believe that he really wants to be President.

  • ||

    PS: If you go to Larry Johnson's site (noquartersusa.net) you will notice that all the frontpage posters - other than Larry - are the same woman, using different names. That's right: one woman using a number of different aliases. The return email address for all these women is the same address, and they all originate from the same IP address.

    At the very least: dishonest. More likely: a psycho.

  • ||

    there was talk long before this about the tape. jon bachelor reported it on his radio show in early may so its not like johnson broke this story. discounting johnson means nothing.

  • ||

    Michael Jackson....nice site
    xanga.com padreislandmike

  • ||

    Change is never easy, but necessary. Now grow up and let's get the country moving in the right direction again. And enough with the Reagan was some great political mind. He was mentally impaired for the last six years of his presidency and he left us with nothing but debt. W. has wrecked things so bad it's a wonder anyone would ever vote for a Republican again. And for the love of St. Pete will someone please tell me why on earth a working man would ever vote Republican? What have the the neo conservatives ever done for the every day Joe? It is beyond me how the Republicans ever could have won the White House, let alone keep it after the first four years of W. What a freaking disaster. We can do better and we will. All the haters can spin their deceit and fool the ignorant with their 3rd grade bully arguments, but change is coming. And I can't wait. McCain...fine man, just like Bob Dole. It's 1992 all over again my friends and it will take at least 8 years to dig out of the mess left behind...Time to put an adult back in charge of the house.

  • ||

    Larry Johnson is severely bipolar.

  • ||

    shame on you!!! Dirty politics at it's best. How can people do this is beyond me, as if we are all perfect!!!

  • ||

    I researched a few websites and here's some of the supposed 'transcript' of Michelle's comments in 2004:

    Whitie cut folks off medicaid?
    Whitie let New Orleans drown?
    Whitie do nothing about Jena?
    Whitie put us in Iraq for no reason?

    and another site quote her as saying:

    "Once again, the white man keeps us down, what"s up with Whitey, Why"d he attack Iraq, Why"d he let Katrina happen, Why"d he leave millions of children behind. This is the legacy the white man gives us"

    MY FEEDBACK:

    Okay, I'm not one for TOO MUCH details but umm...

    1. Jena didn't happen until 2006 but became more known in 2007 and
    2. Katrina happened in 2005

    Again, not too much for details but I can say this one thing, Michelle sure is clairvoyant.... or someone is lying....

    BTW... where is that tape????

  • M\'||

    Zeb,

    My eyes are not brown and the light is not off. It depends on the verifiability or falsifiability of the claim.

  • ||

    Change is one thing. Radical overhaul of the government and society is another. Frankly I don't care for what I'm hearing from the socialistic Obama. I want to live in the USA - not the USSA.

  • ||

    Change is one thing.

    And God forbid that we should let change happen from the bottom up. No, the only REAL change is change mandated by Our Betters in Washington.

  • ||

    Larry Johnson was a great baskeball player. How dare you question his character! If granmama said it, it must be true. Duh.

  • ||

    Have you gone berserk?!? Can't you see that man is a ni?

  • Chima||

    More false rumors about the Obamas...what else is new? Yet some of the commenters here believe it, even though there is no evidence at all. Ask yourselves, would you be ok with being convicted of a crime with ZERO evidence to back up the charge against you???

  • ||

    His reporting is as false as his hideous toupee. Poor Delusional Larry!

  • ||

    Kapow! Bang! Kee-runch!

    Good work, David.

  • ||

    Larry Johnson is a loon and a jerk. Thank god he's not working in our intelligence community anymore.

  • ||

    On the night Hillary gave her non-concession speech and Obama gave his non-victory speech, I noticed a new expression on Barack's face as he welcomed his wife on stage. It was a combination of exhaustion and fear, mixed with irritation. Obama's about to be hammered very hard by methods far more sophisticated than those that took down his nearest political doppelgänger, George McGovern, and he feels it coming.

    This tape may exist. It may not. It doesn't much matter. The inexperienced, untested Obama has a record of associations and employment that provide a treasure trove for opposition researchers. They've just begun to work the guy over. By the time they're finished, he'll be quivering on the floor in a corner, face buried between his knees.

  • ||

    Obama and his wife are racist . That is very apparent . they are a danger to our great country and should NEVER hold our highest office . Vote McCain he is a war hero and one that can be trusted to keep america safe .

  • ||

    I the tape existed, it would be out by now, larry said (or quoted from someone else, cause he knows nothing as fact) that the tape was for sale of the Trinity church website, now if that was true it would have been out cause every media outlet and campaign got every tape and looked through them all, plus Fox would be pushing the story even if they only had made up sources, even THEY know its bullshit, everyday its supposed to be coming and never has and never will, sorry Larry, we're laughin straight to the bank at you on this one

  • ||

    Not to be a nag, but the timeline overlooks this most hilarious May 17th "update" - Larry claims his CIA friend has SEEN the tape (Boy our CIA sure sucks, they can see a tape but can't get a copy of one) and he invents the GOP billionaire offer a million to get a copy

    it deserves a post on it's own

    -----

    Here's the news short and sweet-if you have a copy of the Michelle Obama video, in which she is lambasting white people (four different sources say she uses "whitey" as an epithet) at Jeremiah Wright's church, then there is an ultra conservative Republican billionaire who wants to pay your $1 million dollars for the tape. Why? He hates John McCain. Conservative Republicans refer to John McCain as a Marxist and a sell out (and those are the nice comments). The billionaire in question believes Barack is a very weak candidate and, if he gets the Democratic nod, then McCain will surely be President. Especially after the October "surprise" of Michelle Obama railing against whitey. The billionaire wants to preempt McCain and Rove and has put the word out thru conservative networks that there is a $1 million dollar bounty for the person or persons who produce the tape.

    I got this info courtesy of a major Republican operative. I am told that Karl Rove and his political allies control the tape where Michelle Obama has a Stokely Carmichael moment of sorts. Rove and company reportedly are showing the tape to big money Republicans to loosen up their wallets and get new money to fund independent expenditure groups. That's why news of this is starting to leak out. The money is being raised for 527 groups that will target the Democrats in the fall.

    A retired CIA buddy is friends with a lawyer who saw the tape. This lawyer, who has a stellar reputation for being very low-key, described the video clip of Michelle's anti-white rant as, "stunning." My guess is that the billionaire who detests John McCain is probably going to find someone who will comes up with the tape. So there you have it, someone is looking for "Whitey." If they find it they get a pay day. If not, you will have to wait till October to watch it.

  • ||

    Larry Johnson is a loon and a jerk. Thank god he's not working in our intelligence community anymore.

    No, but expect him to get offered his own radio talk show any time now...

  • speederaser||

    Without the video, you got no show :)

    On second thought,
    KILL WHITEY!! *fires gun into the air*

  • ||

    I dont get it if this rich guy hates McCain then why pay 1 mill for the obama tape?

    Anyways if this was real then it would be out by now. Mainly due to the fact that every republican wants to be the guy that destroys Obama.

    Also if this tape could be bought from the church website then fox news would have had it months ago.

  • ||

    The reason why this was a joke is because no one born after 1960 uses this word and I think the last time any Black person used it was in that Sly in the Family Stone song. Whitey? Seriously? Is this an episode of Good Times?

    Now maybe for a certain white male of a certain age, whitey may actually have a certain effect and would the word of choice to use when creating a fake smear.

    As of the idea that she "sat on a panel with Farrakhan", I think if anyone actually reads the article, it is pretty clear that Michelle is a guest of honor at a luncheon. And in the photo, she is ducking in and right next to a former POW. Seriously bizarre.

  • ||

    Whitey??? What pinheaded, moronic, dumb-ass sob actually thinks African Americans use the word "whitey??" Oh, that's right. All those good, "I really like most black people/hard working white Americans" who've never actually had a conversation with an African American...that is, other than the "my tan is almost as good as yours" that always gets a good chuckle after every summer vacation around the office water cooler. (Just so you know, that polite laughter you get is just that, polite.) People will believe anything they wanna believe. And the fact there are dipshits out there buying anything these asswipes have to say just makes me tired all over. Every time I think we're making strides, the mouth breathers rear their ugly heads.

  • ||

    What is dragging America down are self serving "pundits" who make idiotic rants to draw attention to themselves. Paying attention to this type of "rant" keeps us from having real discussions about what we are going to do to stop our freefall into becoming a fourth world country.

    Obama is shallow??? Well why not ask him what his plans are for us? Not much evidence that anyone is really doing that. All that is going on is American's juvenile inability to get over the shock that a black person might get to have the big job for a while.

    I am an American living in Scandinavia where politicians are expected to have a platform and the intellectual ability to defend and support it. From the outside looking in Americans have their heads buried in the sand and prefer the constant diversion of idiotic babble to grappling with the real issues of the day. And here are a few:

    1. The end of oil and its impact on our survival
    2. The foreign bond holders--the Chinese bought American bonds in the billions of dollars which money has been spent on the "Iraq war" (which isn't even officially designated a war... by the way.) Well, they will want their money back at some point, or else...
    3. Can we keep footing the bill for propping up Israel??? There I said it!! Isn't it time to stop giving them billions when they won't stop stealing land in surrounding countries? What are we getting in return?
    4. The decimation of the American middleclass. We have the super rich, some rich.. then the great divide before we get to the middle class which is quickly becoming the lower middle class... then the poor, very poor, super poor, and ....
    What can I say but in 2008 you should not be traveling in the American south and see cardboard/tin roofed shanty towns.

    I could go on....

  • Metal Messiah||

    The reason why this was a joke is because no one born after 1960 uses this word and I think the last time any Black person used it was in that Sly in the Family Stone song. Whitey? Seriously? Is this an episode of Good Times?

    It all makes sense!

    The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy has been watching Nick at Nite because they can't handle all of the naughty naughty sex on regular television. So it's a steady dose of Good Times and Sanford & Son instead of Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy.

    I wonder how much they'll pay for a tape of Barack Obama walking up to Louis Farrakhan and shouting "DY-NO-MITE!"

  • ||

    Have we yet discovered a white person who's offended by the term "whitey" ?
    Even if someone from Korea called me Whitey I wouldn't be offended by it, let alone someone from a race mine kept as chattel then referred to as niggers.

    If you're offended by that, you are one weak arse pussy.

    BTW Johnson keeps referring to getting "confirmation" of what's on the tape from "multiple sources". It might be worth remembering that he had precisely the same multi-sourced confirmation for the single-sourced lie about Karl Rove being indicted several years ago.

    He's either a willing disseminator of misinformation for Karl Rove et al or so stupid that he can be willingly co-opted to the same ends whenever the need arises.

    Your CIA folks. Gullible as a 5yo.

  • ||

    I don't support Obama but I also don't support this trash - if it turns out to be false it will be the worst example of the political gutter since Dan Rather and his 'documents' on Bush.

    By the way, just a head check for you all, how did you handle that one? Did you feel the same? Did you email or blog any outrage? If not, go look in the partisan mirror and use this revelation as a growth experience. Politics won't get better until we do - they feed it to us because we'll eat it up!

  • ||

    I AM OFFENDED BY THE TERM "WHITEY" BECAUSE OF HOW BLACKS USE THE TERM. SO, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF DIRTY MOUTH!

    OK, brainiac, answer the following questions (with FACTS, not your opinion):

    Who sold blacks as slaves?

    How long were blacks considered chattel in the USA?

    How long did slavery last in the USA?

    How many people owned slaves in the USA?

    How many of the slaves in the USA were white?

    Which nation halted slavery in other countries?

    Which nation halted slavery in their own country?

    Where is slavery practiced today?

    Now, take back all of your nonsense accusations!

  • ||

    Hey, "Manderley", what does any of that have to do with Michelle Obama or Larry Johnson? In addition, I think the precedence for the impropriety of the pejorative was previously established by Sly and the Family Stone.

  • ||

    hey "Art-P.O.G."

    what it has to do with michelle hussein obama and larry johnson is this.....he's trying to say that its only guilt ridden white self-hating liberals, like you, who profess to some type of moral superiority and cry, "oh im not offended by the term whitey" due to some guilt you feel over slavery in america, none of which you had any part of...

    get it you hypocrites? nobody in america today was a slave or owned a slave.....its the michelle obamas and louis farrakhans of this world (and the baraks too) that seek to blame "whitey" for "keeping them down" ad nauseum when all they have to do is just stand up....

    of course, victimology pays better, so why not?

    as for me? i dont need a tape to know all i need to know about michelle the angry black female with a chip on her shoulder....and by extension her racist husband....

    funny how you guilt-ridden commie-libs scream like stuck pigs at white racism and yet give black racism a pass....

    you guys crack me up



    bagster

  • ||

    No, its true. I've also seen the video of Larry Johnson copulating with sheep in drag. In the video, he's clearly been drinking. There also appear to be a blotch of white powder smeared on his dress, which is believed by some to be cocaine.

  • ||

    The tape is in Republican hands: do you think Karl Rove is stupid enough to release the tape now before Clinton has conceded?

    Because the sitting on it strategy worked so well for the democrats with the GWB drunk driving arrest story...

  • ||

    I just wanted to say that I was 30 years old before I realized cracker was not just a Saltine. In fact it was a military class on racial unity that told me, I was very surprised to find out that I was a cracker. I thought I was just a redneck.

  • ||

    I'm curious about the tape of Larry Johnson fucking sheep in drag. Is Larry in drag or are the sheep or both?

  • A.R.Yngve||

    This whisper campaign is just the latest(?) in the long tradition named "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" (after the 196os essay by Richard Hofstadter).

    -------------------
    The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms-he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization. He constantly lives at a turning point. Like religious millenialists he expresses the anxiety of those who are living through the last days and he is sometimes disposed to set a date fort the apocalypse. ("Time is running out," said Welch in 1951. "Evidence is piling up on many sides and from many sources that October 1952 is the fatal month when Stalin will attack.")

    As a member of the avant-garde who is capable of perceiving the conspiracy before it is fully obvious to an as yet unaroused public, the paranoid is a militant leader. He does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician.

    Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated-if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention.

    This demand for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid's sense of frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.

    The enemy is clearly delineated: he is a perfect model of malice, a kind of amoral superman-sinister, ubiquitous, powerful, cruel, sensual, luxury-loving. Unlike the rest of us, the enemy is not caught in the toils of the vast mechanism of history, himself a victim of his past, his desires, his limitations. He wills, indeed he manufactures, the mechanism of history, or tries to deflect the normal course of history in an evil way.

    He makes crises, starts runs on banks, causes depressions, manufactures disasters, and then enjoys and profits from the misery he has produced. The paranoid's interpretation of history is distinctly personal: decisive events are not taken as part of the stream of history, but as the consequences of someone's will.

    Very often the enemy is held to possess some especially effective source of power: he controls the press; he has unlimited funds; he has a new secret for influencing the mind (brainwashing); he has a special technique for seduction (the Catholic confessional). [...]
    --------------

    Read the rest of "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" -- it's as timely as ever:
    http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/conspiracy_theory/the_paranoid_mentality/The_paranoid_style.html

  • ||

    Larry Johnson is now reporting that Michelle Obama has 36 business hours to put her affairs in order before George W. Bush has her arrested because God told him to.

  • ||

    One can only go by Obama's friends and assoicates since there is only a scant record of him saying, "Present" or voting against the important bills in the Senate.

    Whose that lie down with dogs get up with fleas.

  • ||

    Just a point of information...I've got to let all my caucasian Brothers and Sisters in on a little secret that we Black Americans have...we never use the term "whitey". That's just something that Sherman Hemsley used to say to make you folks think that we have an epithet for you. We really don't. We generally stick to the term "white folks" when referring to white folks. Occassionally, we may use the term "rednecks" but when we do that, we mean it in the same way that you do. Not really an epithet. More of an observation, really. Sorry.

  • ||

    So, call me Whitey (if she did), what's the big deal? Michelle should just say "After 200 years of slavery, deal with it, mofo."

  • Dwayne Mayor ||

    And another 100 of Jim Crow, mind you.

  • ||

    I would like to thank this panel for providing me with my Fridaqy morning amusement. You almost made me forget what this thread is all about.

    My question is: Qui Bono?

  • ||

    I hate Whitey! He keeps blocking my driveway with his damn SUV.

  • ||

    David, in my email I forgot to demand that you refer to me by my honorable title: Secret Agent Flowbee. Okay, now you can fuck off.

  • ||

    i dont need a tape to know all i need to know about michelle the angry black female with a chip on her shoulder....and by extension her racist husband....

    could u always read minds, or did you have to learn how?

  • ||

    My prediction:

    Larry Johnson, media whore, will become an election analyst on Faux News.

  • ||

    ClubMedSux:

    Oh man, a Fear of a Black Hat reference. Nice.

    "See, Michele was out of town when that sh&t went down..."

  • Alice Brown||

    Same as that Walsh screw-up about the patriots' taping of the Rams: it nevah happened. That's why he would never come out and show any of it. He had nothing, but he sure did a number on the Patriots. How many of those players went on the field for the Super Bowl with that brain worm working on their psyche? Who believed in their coach but now saw him smeared?
    Same as for Obama. The horrible truth about gossip is that if you don't immediately come on like a tsunami of facts and drown the poison with truth, it seeps into the masses' believs.

  • ||

    Somewhere, George Harleigh is laughing hysterically.

  • ||

    The writting is on the wall for the GOP. People like "Larry I have a barbie crotch" Johnson are at this point just doing their best to pull any uneductaed vote they can for the senile peanut they are running for President.
    While we are light years away from the "blacks are lesser human beings" of my youth we are still not "there" yet and to a degree that is to be expected. The people who have evolved into our better selves out number the Larry Johnsons. We poke fun at them when reasoning fails to enlighten. We can become angry when the slurs are simple lies such as the whitey tape...an apparent set up that never quite made it out of the ball park when facts were applied to the changing facts.
    The biggest surprise? The black women who appear to hate Mrs. Obama. The jealous feelings these women exhibit have surprised me.
    How sad their grandmothers, who honestly lived through oppression, must be of their actions.

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    Bagster | June 6, 2008, 7:38am | #
    "he's trying to say that its only guilt ridden white self-hating liberals, like you, who profess to some type of moral superiority and cry, "oh im not offended by the term whitey" due to some guilt you feel over slavery in america, none of which you had any part of."

    No, I clearly said you'd do this if you were a weak arse pussy.

  • ||

    To the angry black person who posted the listing of questions?
    Guess what? I did not do any of those thing to you nor will I take the blame for people long dead.
    YOU did not suffer those oppressions unless your like 90 so get off it and stop using it as an excuse to do nothing to better YOURSELF.
    That appears to be the problem with blacks and whiteys today. Many of us are sick and tired of hearing it, we didn't do it and it's not our place to make the world a better place for you if you do not have the will power and integrity to help yourself. I see so many blacks that do not like Obama. The only reason I can see for that idiocy? He pulled himself out of the same pity hole many of you enjoy living in.
    I also have seen many blacks support Obama and cry at the mantel he carries for his race and it is only a small handful that decry his accomplishments but to those few? Get over yourself and get on with life like he has and stop being jealous or blaming him for taking away the excuse that has gotten you to this point in life.

  • ||

    I agree. I am tired of the blacks that seem to be jealous of Obama.
    The whites that don't like him? Just look at their way they write. Uneducated.

  • ||

    American Politics. Sleaze, lies, murder, secret society membership, bilderberg directives, deceit, marital infidelity, twisted fire starters, Israeli arse kissers, a sanctuary for war criminals hailed as geniuses (see Kissinger) and a system that is so fracked up its clear that once president you do what you've been told, paid, bribed or threatened to do. You dont even have to look too close for the skullduggery. Your history reeks of it. Yet even with all this, youd think it would be exciting. Watching paint dry has more appeal than watching Americans salivate over a false left right doctrine of politics that a blind mute man with a brain could still see. The only good that will come of Americas rampant corruption is its demise, so keep on keeping on. From a British Whitey.

  • Art-P.O.G.||

    he's trying to say that its only guilt ridden white self-hating liberals, like you, who profess to some type of moral superiority and cry, "oh im not offended by the term whitey

    Ha ha, I'm black. See, we created this perfect race-free world called the intern3tz, where you can try to guess somebody's race, but you might be wrong. That being said, I doubt that I've ever said "whitey" in my whole life.

  • ||

    Nut there's something bothering me. When he thought I was white, Bagster claimed I was self-hating. Since I'm black that must mean I hate "blue-eyed devils." Oh noes!

  • ||

    Whitey is not a word you should use.

  • ||

    I believe the name is actually Why'd He Herzog.

  • Lyn||

    Michelle Obama is a racist. I've read her outrageous "thesis" from Princeton.

    Of course you can argue all you want that she didn't make those "whitey" comments and there's no video or audio of her. I know for a fact that Abe Lincoln made that ridiculous Gettysburg Address even though there's no video nor audio of it - at least not on youtube.

  • ||

    I know for a fact that Abe Lincoln made that ridiculous Gettysburg Address even though there's no video nor audio of it - at least not on youtube.

    Probably the most inapt and unfortunate comparison/statement ever.

    I've read her outrageous "thesis" from Princeton.

    How dare she write about her experience from a racial perspective!

  • ||

    I don't actually have any footage or audio of Lyn rubbing peanut butter on herself so her great dane can clean it off.

    I just want to make that clear; I haven't seen or heard any such footage. At all.

    Still, it does raise troubling questions.

  • ||

    The "needing proof game" is a modern artifact of human beings' lack of any discretion or honesty about the character of other humans. Of course Michelle is racist; of course Ahmadinejad will nuke Israel if given the chance. Silly proof games are being played because people are programmed to need someone to tell them what they already know or can know on their own, before they can know it.

  • ||

    My favorite thing about the photo of Michelle "with" Farrakhan's wife is that she's sitting a lot closer to Shoshanna Johnson, Iraq war vet/POW. I guess she hates whitey and America, too.

  • ||

    Seems like it's long past time to investigate "No Quarter" and "Liberal Rapture" for their unrelenting campaign of blatant lies, racism and veiled threats against Barack Obama and his family. Check their sites out for an eye-opening horror show from these so-called "Democrats."

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

    http://liberalrapture.com/

    Tell them to stop the hate!

  • ||

    Yeah Benj, now that Johnson has turned his lies away from Chimpy Halibushitler and toward a Democrat... NOW its time to "investigate" him.

  • Chatty Kathy||

    Booman Tribune has the goods on this dreck. Guess what? Michelle was saying "Why'd he" (referring to Bush) and Larry Johnson turned it into "Whitey":

    Why'd he cut folks off medicaid?
    Why'd he let New Orleans drown?
    Why'd he do nothing about Jena?
    Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?

  • ||

    If you have read Drew Westen's book (The Political Brain), these types of "campaigns" seem a bit more understandable. Even if the story was not true, it elicited emotion/affect in many people who heard about it. And those who are (or are inclined to be) biased against Mrs. Obama will think/say something like, "well, it may have been fake...but I can totally imagine her saying something like that." [Another reason for all that "overkill" detail is that it helps people to visualize the tale (and remember it) and adds to the emotional weight.] And if some real--even tiny--incident does happen in the future, it will be believed more readily and weighted more heavily because of this. So, these things don't have to be logical to "work"…as long as those emotion/affect buttons are pushed. [Plus, there are many who will believe that the tape did exist but was suppressed as the result of some conspiracy.] **A few months ago I realized that I knew almost nothing about Michelle Obama. On a whim I did a youtube search and watched several of her speeches. I have to say that I was totally blown away. She is whip-smart, down to earth, funny, self-deprecating, stylish...and yes, obviously tough enough (in ALL ways) to kick most of our asses. In the end, the experience made me think that it would be very unwise for anyone (especially Republican hatchet folk) to underestimate Michelle Obama.

  • ||

    This story has the hallmark of the classic Urban Legend at play. In Johnson's teaser post he states that he has heard from "five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape." Sooo, Johnson hasn't seen the tape, he hasn't even talked with someone who has seen the tape. Rather, he claims to have talked to someone who talked to someone who has seen the tape. Brilliant!

  • ||

    I think that people should frequent this guy's website, demanding that he promise to remove his blog and refrain from political blogging for the rest of the campaign if this rumor turns out to be false. He swears that his sources are reliable, and that this tape is going to be revealed in October. Make him either back up this statement with that promise, or admit that he is spreading swift-boat-style rumors.

  • ||

    I feel really bad for Larry Johnson.

    When even the Libertarians are mocking you, you know you've got it bad.

  • ||

    "By the way, just a general question to white people on the board. If you have never said the word "n*gger", have you ever thought it in your head?" (The censorship is my own, out of respect for the possible rules of this board.)

    I've both said it and thought it in my head, but not in the way that you might think. I've sometimes said "the gays are this century's n*ggers" because I've seen a lot of similarities to the way gays are treated these days and the way black folks were treated during the "separate but equal" days...even today in some parts of the country. I use the term as an expression of the hatred and contempt shown a group of people for no logical reason. But I have never looked at a person who has darker skin than I and thought or said "n*gger" as some sort of pejorative. Why? Because I'm not an idiot, and I don't suffer from the delusion that the pigment of a person's skin has anything to do with the quality of their character. I honestly don't understand people who do.

  • ||

    I remember when I first heard this rumor of Michelle saying, in a domestic setting, why she's ashamed of being an American while she's out of the country.
    Then I heard the Larry Johnson rumor - but not from Larry Johnson (of whom I'd never heard) but from Matt Drudge!
    I think Matt Drudge has some 'splaing to do hear. Larry Johnson has never been what any thinking person would consider a reliable source, but there was a time when Drudge was considered a reliable source, so: Hey Matt - what's the story you were touting, hmmmm?

  • ||

    This is why we need duelling. It ought to be legal to call pigs like Johnson out.

  • ||

    The next step will be for Dan Rather to produce a forged letter confirming the existence of the video.

  • ||

    Hi Jack - You said "But I have never looked at a person who has darker skin than I and thought or said "n*gger" as some sort of pejorative. Why? Because I'm not an idiot, and I don't suffer from the delusion that the pigment of a person's skin has anything to do with the quality of their character. I honestly don't understand people who do."
    And I agree with you completely, but then again I feel the same way about people who use the term "Whitey" as well.
    Just sayin.....

  • ||

    I read in the comments section on "Reason.com" that there is a Cindy McCain / Ann Coulter sex tape out there! Can someone please verify this explosive information?

  • ||

    A lot of people are living in a 20th-century world where there are "hidden" tapes that are the "only copy" remaining which are kept in vaults and released at just the right time for maximum impact.

    Just about any organized public event has someone videotaping it, and it's almost always put in a digital format and a copy kept for just about every person who was in attendance. You're telling me that no one else has a copy and none of those copies ended up in someone else's hands and no one posted it on youtube, even for exculpatory purposes? Sorry. I call 'em like I see 'em. Any public event featuring Louis Farrakhan and Michelle Obama, particularly one that occurred after 2004, would have been taped and the video distributed for all to see. Johnson had 24 hours to produce the goods. Now, we can call BS.

  • ||

    Even if the sex tape rumor is true, I don't think it should effect the campaign. So what if Cindy is a homosexual.

  • ||

    To "concern troll", Cindy McCain is not a man and therefore cannot be a homosexual. I think you meant lesbian. Cindy Mccain is not a lesbian! I have proof that Coulter is a man. Don't take my word for it, try the Google.

  • Metal Messiah||

    [i]I read in the comments section on "Reason.com" that there is a Cindy McCain / Ann Coulter sex tape out there! Can someone please verify this explosive information?[/i]

    I thought I saw a Anne Coulter/Michelle Malkin sex tape once, but it turned out it was just a regular porno with Marc Wallace and Luci Thai.

  • ||

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I am the new press secretary for the Obama campaign, and I can assure you that Senator Obama remains in negotiations for the purchase of the video tape in question, and expects to conclude the transaction shortly, at which time the tape will be destroyed and we can all move on. (wait... what? that's not part of the press briefing? oops, sorry).. Ladies and Gentlemen, please disregard my previous comment.

  • ||

    Saying that "ALL will be revealed in October" is perfect because it allows the threat of such a tape to remain real in people's minds and emotions for a long time--even if, in the end, the tape never materializes. If you look carefully at posts on cnn.com, the NYT, or
    the Washington Post (3 sites I have examined) from the primary season, (alleged) Hillary supporters consistently maintained that there was very damaging information about Obama that 'would be released SOON' (or in the fall, 'RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION'). Such posts were so consistent (and carefully varied), I felt, that they had to be coordinated. All are "whispering" campaigns. All are a total bluff--but they are an appeal to the emotions, and that helps them to be compelling and to stick in people's memory. Plus (*and this is important*) there must always be some kernel of truth for these things to work (i.e., 'Obama seems too good to be true, there MUST be dirt on him' or, 'Michelle supposedly said she wasn't proud of America, so she's obviously one of those radical Blacks who secretly hates whites…and LOOK at how tall she is, if she's that tall and isn't a supermodel it totally proves there's something abnormal about her'). The only way to fight it is to confront it head-on-to put a megaphone up to those whispers while understanding that the point of the campaign was to appeal to (and/or generate) "emotional truth". So that "emotional truth" must be understood and addressed somehow. The people who would respond to this the most are those who know little about Michelle Obama. The campaign needs to address the fears this provokes directly by having her go on Larry King, be profiled in Good Housekeeping, etc. It's time for M.O. (and their children) to step up and get more visible; that's the only real antidote. Seriously folks…you must read Drew Westen's book. [P.S. I am NOT affiliated with Westen in any way!]

    Also, I have heard (via "whispering" on those sites listed above) about damaging info that supposedly exists about Mrs. McCain (drugs, theft, etc.). If there is more to that than just bluff, it is entirely possible that going after Mrs. Obama first is a very clever way to inoculate the Republican base (i.e., 'the Democrats are only saying those bad things about Mrs. McCain now so they can get back at us for what was said about Mrs. Obama). That's just speculation on my part, of course, but if there is REAL info about Mrs. McCain, this would be one way to prevent it from sticking.

  • ||

    "I know for a fact that Larry Johnson would like the tape of him fucking sheep in drag to never see the light of day."

    In the sheep's defense, she never felt anything at all, so she never had any idea that Larry Johnson was fucking her in drag. Poor Larry, once you go sheep you never go baaaaahk.

  • ||

    To Jeff Gannon. The term "homosexual" is gender neutral. It applies to women as well as men. Buy a dictionary.

  • ||

    NEWS FLASH!!!!

    CINDY MCCAIN/ANN COULTER SEX TAPE RUMORS EXPLODE IN COMMENT SECTION AT REASON.COM

    STAY TUNED FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

  • ||

    Speaking of Ann Coulter and her lookalikes, did it strike anyone else that Michelle Obama strongly resembles a young Aunt Esther from Sanford and Son?

  • ||

    RealityCheck | June 6, 2008, 1:33pm | #
    [To Jeff Gannon. The term "homosexual" is gender neutral. It applies to women as well as men. Buy a dictionary.]

    That's not what Scotty told me, but what do I know, I'm just a whore.

  • ||

    To "An Outhouse":

    Sorry, but you can keep Loony Johnson at MSNBC where he belongs. He's a "terror expert" all right, considering how many American citizens the former CIA agent has threatened.

  • Mack||

    I know that just the possibility that the tape exists sends shivers down the spine of all you Obama lovers, but that's the price you pay for supporting this inexperienced, unvetted, racist idiot who thinks there are 57 states in the Union.

    This just in from the McCain campaign: The number of states is now back down to pre-surge levels.

  • ||

    Obama did not flatly deny the video...which if you have been in politics long enough means SOMETHING.

    Obama critized the reporter who asked the question, begging the observation if you don't want to answer questions why are you hanging around with reporters?

    You say gossip and dropping of details is a lie, yet most poltical scandals start with these kinds of leads.

    Obama is also refusing to learn from history, and demonstrates quite an ego...you will always get hung up by the coverup, not the crime( or rant).

  • ||

    Seriously, who even says "Whitey" anymore? Other than movies, it died in the 1970's.

  • ||

    Obama - No experience in many areas, and has many unsavory friends not to mention his extreme liberalism, beware of the Obama's!

    He is not Colin Powell. That is the person whom ought be running!

  • ||

    What is really of concern here is how many of us BELIEVED it was possible a video like this existed. That's because we don't know much about the Obamas, but the information that has come to light is down right frightening, radical and anti-American. Don't be fooled by promises of change. Go with your gut. My gut tells me Obama is a "wolf in sheep's clothing".

  • ||

    i am not voting for obama because he is black.

    i am not voting for obama because he is green.

  • ||

    "Obama did not flatly deny the video...which if you have been in politics long enough means SOMETHING.

    Obama critized the reporter who asked the question, begging the observation if you don't want to answer questions why are you hanging around with reporters?"

    Actually, he lumped the question in with the other "dirt and lies" that have been circulating via e-mail, and if that doesn't count as a denial in your opinion, then you are probably just seeing what you want to see.

    Do you expect him to address every single lie thrown out there? "Senator Obama, are you a muslim?" "Senator Obama, why does your wife hate America?" "Senator Obama, when did you stop raping koala bears?" Just because a person is a reporter does not make every question that comes out of his/her mouth some sort of valid issue that needs to be addressed. Sometimes you just have to treat it all as garbage to be swept aside.

  • ||

    Carol from MD said

    "Go with your gut. My gut tells me Obama is a "wolf in sheep's clothing"."

    Oh, that's right. He is the anti-christ and stalin reborn. He's totally evil, and will work overtime to enslave the white race. His mission in life is to bring down the USA as we know it, because he and his wife hate Amurica and everything it stands for.

    Go back to hillaryis44 and play with all the other lonely women who cant keep a mate.

  • ||

    It's been completely debunked. This not worth discussing.

    http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mzc3ZWNhNThmM2JhMzliZDUxMWNmMmU5M2ZiNmM1YTY=

  • ||

    The above link, links back to this thread and talks about it being a grand scheme taken out of a book. People might like to update themselves on it.
    here's the link again:

    http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mzc3ZWNhNThmM2JhMzliZDUxMWNmMmU5M2ZiNmM1YTY=

  • ||

    i am an african american female.... and rest assure the aa community do not use the term "whitey" this guy is fooling you all! this is actually funny. BTW obama mother is white, he was raised by his white grandparents. So to anyone that may think him or michelle are racist sorry but your stupid!!!!

  • ||

    I look for the email that was sent out the past elections (first about Clinton and then about Gore) reported that each candidate said that John 3:19 was their favorite verse from the Bible. 3:19 says that men loved darkness because their deeds are evil instead of John 3:16 which states that God so loved the world... I wrote back those who sent it out that both men were raised in the Baptist Church and they make sure a child knows that verse by kindergarten. Never a reply. So liars are liars. It appears that this man is another liar.

  • ||

    Why it is called racism when a white person calls a negro nigger. Have you ever listened to the blacks talk to each other? If you have than surely you have heard them call each other nigger so are they racists also?

  • Michele Carson||

    Pleasssse I am so tired of these racist white people who are upset about a black man in an important place. Michelle Obama is a strong woman, and foder f racists. I am a strong woman also a white woman and really admire her. This tape does not exist, and how many whites have said the N word or thought it?Call me whitey I could care a less.

  • ||

    Larry Johnson like most people can't stand the fact that a Black Man could be president of the USA. He is a trouble maker, a racist, and a lier. Too bad this is the only way your sight can get hits. Get a life and report what's important!

  • ||

    I have seen people make up stories and lies about others, in the work place this is horrible, can anything be done? The Republican Fox, News Station continues to try to scare everyone into voting for McCain, and fighting in his War.

  • ||

    Why it is called racism when a white person calls a negro nigger. Have you ever listened to the blacks talk to each other? If you have than surely you have heard them call each other nigger so are they racists also?


    This should be on the list of 10 stupidest questions that ignorant white people keep on asking.

  • Phillybits||

    Dave - looks like this rumor is unraveling faster than it's being wound.

  • ||

    I DO KNOW THAT A TAPE EXISTS THAT OBAMA WOULD NOT ANSWER "YES" OR "NO" WHEN ANDERSON COOPER ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM SINGING "GOD BLESS AMERICA"AND USING THE WORD "GOD".HIS ANSWER WAS HE COULDN'T SING GOOD...........WOW-WHAT IF THE SEC OF DEFENSE CALL OBAMA AT "3:00 AM" AND TOLD HIM THAT WE WERE UNDER ATTACK AND HIS RESPONSE WAS I'LL HAVE BREAKFAST AT 7:00 WITH COFFEE...

  • ||

    My gut tells me the Republican Swiftboat manuever of Election 2008 is to try to paint the biracial candidate as a racist. I might be a little too far out on a limb but I think that is what they are trying to do.

  • ||

    Larry Johnson is a former klansman who got kicked out for a problem with little kids. I mean, that's what I heard. And since the little kid is a girl, I think it is self verifying. I heard it in a strip club (lent a dollar to Roger Stone, but he won't remember because he was sooo drunk).

    Write the rumor, and them come back later and tell everyone if you think its been debunked.

  • ||

    Obama's wife is prejudice! You can see it all over her face. She looks bitter. So all you white folk, get ready to be in the fields picking cotton!

  • ||

    This is the latest of the road bumps and hurdles placed in obama's road to the presidential nomination and eventually the white house.

    First was the so called chaos theory - getting republicans to vote for hillary. As a frequent guest of Rush's radio show I remember that the original intent was to help Hillary become the nominee because she would easier to defeat by the republican contender than any other democrat, because the right wing hatred for her would coaless the otherwise disunited republicans.

    Then the chaos goal shifted when it became clear that she was going to loose - prolong the fight, get democrats spending money and bloody each other while McCain remain untouched. That did not work. What actually happened was the world focussed on the democrats while McCain fighting for any attention he could get. Also we saw record numbers of new democrats register for the primaries and caucuses. Clinton and Obama had the largest numbers of votes the history of the republic. Women and minorities have never seen such political enthusiasm. According to reliable media analysts, there is not evidence to indicate that Limbaugh's chaos really worked except on the talk show host's ego. Actually I think republicans who might have participated in democratic primaries were just glad to have something to do and be part of an exciting political process.


    So then the Jeremiah Right tapes emerged. Obama responded by giving a pivital speech or race, it was a home run. Afer that was the catholic priest tape at his church Trinity mocking Hillary and bring the unspoken notion of white entitlement. So he resigns fro his church. Members of the church interviewed said that they understood his position.

    I do not believe that the Michelle Obama scandalous tape exists or if it does, is no what it has been characterized as the Boogy tape, or contains racial epithets that Americans have never heard, of that we will lay any blame at the foot of the presumptive nominee. Obama haters have already taken sides after the right wing overplayed remarks out of context that it was the 'the first time she felt proud of America' and I doubt that there is anything new that will erode Obama's supporters. We Americans are a little more sophisticated than to punish public figures for the shortcomings of their spouses. Lewisky scandal did not Hillary becoming a senator.

    It is also interesting to see that the tape involving McCain's preacher with more controversial statements did not get as much play in the media. Obama and the democrats need to debate ideas. Even if something in the skeleton is found on the republicans closet, it should be used by democrats as a cheap shot. Run the merit of your ideas and srun a positive campaign and i know both Obama and McCain will.

  • ||

    If we've already reached this point in early June, just imagine the kind of stuff we'll be hearing by October. I can just imagine Hannity a week before the election: 'If true, Obama's reported meeting with Mohammed Atta in Prague would be absolutely devastating to his campaign'.

    It's going to be a very bumpy ride.

  • ||

    Show it if it is true

  • ||

    NO NO NO. DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE. LARRY DOESN'T FUCK SHEEP. HE DREAMS OF FIDDLING WITH LITTLE BOYS.

    LARRY DREAMS OF LURING THEM INTO HIS HOME AND HAVING HIS WAY.

    WE'VE GOT OUR EYE ON YOUR LARRY.

  • ||

    Here is another person like Hannity and O'Reilly making accusations with no meat behind it. Give it up already!!

    Find something good in people for a change..
    Not everyone is like you Larry, Hannity and O'reilly, go away. Our country has enough trouble without you Larry adding to it.

  • ||

    Thanks for doing this. It's pretty appalling that anyone thinks when well-educated black people get together they start bashing "whitey," but I guess that's what happens if your view of race relations comes from taking the Garret Jones SNL skit as a documentary.

  • rufus||

    Okay, I can clear this up. In the video, Michelle Obama's pumping semen out of Rod Stewart's stomach and she says that it looks a "bit whitey". My friend saw the tape.

  • ||

    I have the tape ... what am I bid??

  • ||

    I AM TIRED OF ALL THIS BULLSHIT. IT IS YOU STUPID PEOPLE THAT DECIDED TO PUT A NIGGER IN THE WHITE HOUSE SO YOU LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. I FOR ONE AM MOVING OUT OF AMERICA AND GOING SOMEWHERE WHERE THE WHITE MAN IS STILL RESPECTED BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY AS WE KNOW IT RIGHT NOW. IT IS GOING TO CHANGE AND IT IS US WHITES THAT ARE GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE MAJORITY OF BLACK RACE WHILE THEY SIT ON THEIR STINKY ASSES COLLECTING WELFARE AND FEEDING OFF OF WHATEVER OTHER PROGRAMS THIS ASSHOLE CAN THINK OF TO GIVE TO THEM

  • ||

    I cannot believe that anyone [other than bigots and racists] would believe that this story about Michelle is true for the simple fact that both Barack and Michelle are extremely educated and to think that either of them would ever use such "slang" is beyond the pale. You do not spend the better portion of your young adult life getting an education in the very best schools this country has to offer so that you can turn around and use gutteral slang! So whatever BS Johnson claims can be debunked by "simple logic" Sherlock! Use those little gray cells - THINK!

  • ||

    I would believe Michelle OBama made these statements. After all she blames America for everything that has ever gone wrong in the Black Society and has never been proud of America in her whole Adult Life.

  • ||

    joesmooth just proved my point! You must be from WV or KY and one of those "inbred redneck hard working WHITE Americans" so famously referred to be HRC. Thank God you are LEAVING THIS COUNTRY because there are definitely enough of your types throughout this country and one less is great news to the rest of us who don't see the color of ones skin!

  • ||

    Please GET A LIFE OR A JOB , I am more interested in the price of gas, taking care of my family and going to the Caribbean on a long vacation instead of listening or reading BULLSHIT. YOU ARE PATHETIC, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.
    ,

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    joesmooth ... PLEASE don't come to Canada!!!!

  • ||

    JOE SMOOTH: please let me know where I can send my contribution to your relocation fund. You're right: this country doesn't belong to people like you. And this white guy couldn't be happier about that!

  • ||

    Sure, you blogged about it and now say it's unsubstantiated. You are the problem in this country. You and people like you. You write about some ridiculous rumor, I'm sure that's all you do is write about rumors. Then later you say "Well, the other guy misled me." The bottom line is that you and most bloggers, are sleazy, irresponsible scums of the earth. The reason you're "blogging" is that you can't meet today's horribly low journalistic standards.

    As a nation, we get the government we deserve. And if enough people listen to morons like you, they will once again, get what they deserve and that will be a geriatric George Bush. Bush is a fool even at a younger age, McCain is going to be the same except that he'll know less about the world around him due to his advanced dementia. This is the guy who says we have fewer troops in Iraq now than we had before the surge. All accounts from all known sources agree this is not true. This is the guy who doesn't know the difference between Suni and Shites in Iraq. All accounts from all known sources say this is true, there is no debate possible on this point. And you and many other fools are going to continue with this until you get him elected. In fact, wait for a month prior to the election to see some pasty-faced white woman about 43 years old who went to school in the same building with Obama to claim he raped her. This or something like it will occur. The sleaze policital machines for the Republicans will make sure it happens. No proof will be necessary and they know it...if enough people believe it the election results will hang in the balance. And again, we'll get the government we deserve (as a group).

    And so it goes.

  • ||

    Joe Smooth

    I am white, I presume you are white..you and anyone like you scare me far more than any other..please do leave and I think that thought process would be well received in ...but no Hitler is dead so dont know where you would be welcomed.

  • ||

    Who needs to see this video? Let us see her senior thesis! That should be enough. It doesn't matter that she did not use 'street' lingo in the thesis - she still managed to show us her true feelings within it. She might as well have said 'whitey.' If there is nothing to hide there, why has her college now made the thesis 'off-limits' until after the election?

  • ||

    jshikany, wow! What the? McCain doesn't know??? What exactly does Obama have experience knowing? McCain knows what it means to sacrifice for this country. Obama couldn't even sacrifice himself to show up for the majority of Senate votes! Who is Obama? Does anyone even know? Why do you support him? Everyone I have asked changes the subject. Reality is - you guys don't even know. Democrats could put Bozo the clown up for election and he would be fully supported because he is more colorful. Let's hear your rationale. The troop surge has worked. McCain supported it before Bush did. Lo and behold since the troop surge so many things have been better in Iraq. More embassies are opening up shop and more troops are making it home alive. McCain had something to do with that. Where was Obama during that vote? PS McCain does not have dementia - his health reports were made public dude. And you talk about others spreading crap! Check yourself out.

  • ||

    "Who needs to see this video? Let us see her senior thesis! That should be enough. It doesn't matter that she did not use 'street' lingo in the thesis - she still managed to show us her true feelings within it. She might as well have said 'whitey.' If there is nothing to hide there, why has her college now made the thesis 'off-limits' until after the election?"

    This is the point that people are trying to make. People are making a freaking big deal about a college thesis.

    WHo cares? I dont care what a college student felt while in school.

    The wife of a canidate's thesis wont end the oil crisis, it doesnt make our country any less safe and it doesnt keep people from getting botted from their homes.

  • ||

    You don't care what his wife felt when she was in college? Are you for real?? When you go to obtain a job, people care what you did when you were in college. You don't think representing this nation as the First Lady is as important of a job as Manager of Taco Bell? People should be making a big deal about this. This is important. She feels a certain way about people and he agrees with her enough and found her interesting enough to marry her. Then, the two of them attended a racist church together. FOR TWENTY YEARS! The gentleman above said that people blog things and then retract them. Obama attended a church for twenty years and then retracted his friendship with the preacher and the church only because he had to to run for president. These things are important indeed. If he is willing to sell the man who babtized his children down the river to get what he wants, who else would he sell?

  • ||

    I'm 44, and no one cares what I did in college- and thank heaven for that!

  • ||

    RE: Fluffy's comment.
    Yes I have and I'm not proud of it, however it usually occurs after I've had to deal with the absolute worst of the black community, and to be fair, I've got some extremely low and vile opinions concerning a large sector of the white population as well! That being said, I'm not the least bit surprised at the smear tactics aimed at Obama. These tactics helped elect one of the worst presidents in history, and they might work again! Barak Obama represents a real chance for America to regain some of the credibility that we have lost during King George's reign of idiocy.

  • ||

    Maybe she was recounting a "Leave it To Beaver" episode and something funny Wally's friend "Whitey" did...

  • ||

    Mike - You aren't running for the most important job in the nation....

    Jingles - why does Obama represent such a great chance for America to regain credibility? I am totally interested in this. I keep asking everyone why he would make a good president. No one says why, just that he would...

  • Ted||

    Joe Smooth? Is that a joke? I will chip in for your one way ticket to anywhere. You are the reason that this country is in trouble. Please go. Ignorant Fuck. Unbelievable.

  • ||

    can anyone say why he owuldnt be a good president. Please dont list republican 20 years in the pew talking points.

    Anyways I dont care what Michelle Obama wrote when she was in college over 20 years ago. I'm voting for Barack Obama and not Michelle Obama.

    If we are talking about wives. How can Cindy McCain be the first lady when she joined a charity just so that she can steal RX drugs from its.

    She was a freaking drug stealer who had her husband and her flunkies cover it up. And John McCain cheated on his disabled first wife.

  • Ted||

    Kris listens to Sean Hannity. That would be the "Thesis" comment.

    There is no There There. Nada. You heard it on his BS show.

  • ||

    Yes but Sean Hannity hinted about this tape at least a week before May 26th. And now Fox News has deleted an entire blog about it.

    I am pretty shocked really!
    Chalice

  • ||

    No, Sean;s comment was not about the thesis .... It was about a secret tape that he was withholding to release later. He quipped about it and said there is more to come. I heard it from him twice.

    Chalice

  • Ted||

    No one can tell you why he wouldn't be a good President. And She's amazing too.

  • Ted||

    He was talking about her Thesis for weeks about 3 months ago. He just pulls this stuff out of his rear.

  • Liberal Larry||

    These rumors were obviously put out there to make Obama look like an America-hating leftist with a grudge against white people, and I am ashamed of him for resorting to such dirty tricks to get my vote.

  • Ted||

    You can get a free podcast called "Blast the Right" by Jack Clark. He's on Itunes under political podcasts. He did a whole show on
    Hannity and the "Thesis".

  • Ted||

    It's disgusting. I couldn't agree more. Don't worry. If you watched McCain's speech on Tuesday, Obama is going to be just fine. There will be new voters and there is going to be some hope for people who had none.

    More people vote for American Idol on any given night then voted in the entire primary season.

  • ||

    The tape just wouldn't make any difference. People don't care about that any more than they cared about all the stuff Clinton got away with. The Dems will still swoon over their newly crowned socialist leader

  • ||

    Considering the white people who are disseminating this venal bilge, I think that "whitey" is about the kindest sobriquet which could be bestoyed on them. I can think of several other names which apply.

  • Dan||

    Unless it's true....

  • Ted||

    Socialist Leader? Are you on crack? Obama is far from a Socialist. Do you think this is a sporting event and we each have different teams? This is real Dan. Maybe if you went to Iraq. Maybe if you actually had to sacrifice something other than paying 125.00 to fill your SUV. What is it? Are you a "sportsmen"? No one wants your guns. Are you a "fundamentalist"? Then if that's the case then pray. Are you afraid of Jihadists? I think you are all scary. For Gods sake, get your facts straight. Read something before you go and vote Republican again. This is not the same party it was 75 years ago. Maybe talk to Ambassador Joe Wilson ( who was appointed and was close to George HW Bush). No Dan, this is a pretty bad deal we are in and the responsibility would be with the people who voted for this Administration. They privatized war for profit. Period. They gave all of OUR tax dollars to their pals. They are Corporatist. That is what the true definition of FASCISM is. Look it up. Read the Fountainhead by Ayn Rand. Do something. Wait,don't do anything. Listen to Sean Hannity. He'll spout out his Mineola,NY Bullshit and call Obama a Socialist. It must be true. You heard it on fucking HANNITY. Maybe you can talk about the "Mainstream Media" too. What a crock. FOX is owned by Murdoch. Murdoch is in business with Chinese Govt owned Media. Communists. YUP. That's the real word you want to use. Right? Socialist? What the fuck? You people are so full of it man.

  • ||

    It is interesting how the right-wingers here are not interested in the fact that the tape has been totally debunked. No, they don't miss a beat. Just go on with some stupid rant about the Obamas being racists. Boy, I do feel sorry for these people. Must be their education.

  • ||

    McCain makes racist slur against Asian people.

    "I hate the gooks," McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live." McCain, a former Navy pilot who spent five years in a Vietnamese prisoner of war camp, was questioned about the language because of a story last month in the Nation magazine reporting his continued use of the slur. Since then, reports of McCain's language have been circulating on Internet chat sites and e-mails among Asian Americans, many of whom find the the term offensive and inappropriate for an elected official. McCain's appeal to voters has been as a wartime hero and a feisty politician who speaks his mind and damns the consequences. But his comments on the eve of the key South Carolina primary show the candidate's vaunted "straight talk" in another light.

    "The use of a racist slur can't be acceptable for any national leader, regardless of his background," said Diane Chin, executive director of the San Francisco-based Chinese for Affirmative Action. "For someone running for president not to recognize the power of words is a problem."

    "Historically, straight talkers who say things off the top of their heads eventually hang themselves with those sorts of remarks," said Bruce Cain, a political scientist at the University of California at Berkeley. McCain made no apologies yesterday.

    "I was referring to my prison guards," McCain said, "and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends." McCain made it clear that his anger extends only toward his captors. As a senator, he was one of the leaders of the postwar effort to normalize U.S. relations with Vietnam.

    But the racial slur used by the senator has a long, painful history that is felt by many Asian Americans. The word "gook" was first used in 1899 by American soldiers fighting Filipino insurgents. During the Korean War, the term was aimed at Koreans and Chinese. It was directed at the Vietnamese when Americans were fighting in Vietnam. It is now used as a slur toward any Asian or Pacific Islander.

    The horrors of the past cannot be an excuse for hurting people in the present, said Guy Aoki, president of the Media Action Network for Asian Americans, an anti-defamation group. "If Sen. McCain had been captured by Nigerians, could he call those people `niggers' and think he wasn't going to offend everyone who is black?" Akoi asked. "We can all feel for what he went through, but if that's his level of sensitivity, I'm very disappointed." "I will call right now, my interrogator that tortured me, a gook," McCain said. "(I can't believe that) anybody doesn't believe these interrogators and prison guards were cruel and sadistic people who deserve the worst appellations possible." McCain said he does not consider the comment an epithet.

    "Gook," he said, "is the kindest appellation I can give."

  • ||

    I know this is bulls***t made up by some racist bastard.First of all, black people don't refer to whites as whitey. It is a white perception.They would use some other derogatory name if they are pissed at a white person for some reason.They would probably say the man, or the white man. This is so fake it is ridiculous.

  • ||

    This tells me the Republicans are nervous.They made this statement before Obama won the nomination. Just imagine if it was Obama with the Clinton Chronicles tapes all over the internet, Wow!..

    The cover-up of the original felony violations of the federal election law committed by Hillary and Bill Clinton (they solicited and coordinated Paul's $1 million plus contribution as a quid pro quo for Clinton's post White House employment) have resulted in a corruption of every branch of the government by the Clinton's- all in plain view of the public and with the collusion of the media and the government. Watergate seems insignificant in the breadth of its public corruption in comparison with what has become the mother of all coverups orchestrated by Hillary Clinton.





    To keep up with the case on L.A Superior court, go to the L.A. Superior Court Website and type case number: BC304174

    [www.lasuperiorcourt.org]


    And this is what the Republicans are saving to throw at Hillary if she becomes nominee:

    The Clinton Greatest Hits:

    Hillary the Movie:
    [video.google.com]

    The Clintons Chronicles
    [video.google.com]

    Mena Connection- Drug Smuggling:
    [video.google.com]

    Obstruction Of Justice - The Mena Connection:
    [video.google.com]

    Mena Connection - Cover Up:
    [video.google.com]

    Vince Foster Murder :
    [video.google.com]

    Bill Clinton Lied Under Oath:
    [video.google.com]

  • ||

    This is probably why Hillary doesn't want to change her tone, the party is being ruined more and more and we are witnessing it, there greed for power can only be for one reason, to escape crimes like they've done before:

    In the landmark civil fraud case against Bill Clinton in Los Angeles, where the former President is charged with defrauding a Hollywood dot com millionaire to help Hillary Clinton obtain more than $1.2 million from him for her 2000 Senate campaign, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz ruled on Friday, April 25 that Hillary Clinton would not be required to testify in a sworn deposition as a material witness in the case until AFTER the November election!

    While Bill Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, Al Gore, Ed Rendell, Barabara Streisand, Cher, Stan Lee, Brad Pitt, Mike Wallace, Larry King et al may be called to testify and be deposed starting in May, Hillary alone has been protected from explaining her role in her husband's fraud charges.

    In an astonishing ruling by the Judge, Hillary Clinton may NOT be deposed about her role in the illegal solicitation and cover up of the largest contribution made to her Senate campaign until after the presidential election. This is the same contribution Hillary denied knowing about or receiving when Lloyd Grove of the Washington Post asked her specifically about it and her relationship with the donor, Peter Paul, in August 2000. Its the same contribution her finance director David Rosen was criminally tried in May, 2005, or hiding from her and her campaign. Its the same contribution the FEC fined her campaign for hiding from the voters in three false FEC reports by her treasurer between 2000-2006. (www.paulvclinton.com)

    Equally surprising as the ruling was the judge's request to Hillary defense lawyer David Kendall to "say hello to his ( Judge Munoz") friend Bill, also a partner in Kendall's law firm"
    The decision to shield Hillary Clinton from civil discovery for an additional seven months, thereby delaying a long postponed trial, was made by the judge on his own, without any request by Hillary or her lawyer to make the ruling. No discussion was permitted by Paul's lawyer before the decision was made. Judge Munoz' unilateral decision effectively saved the floundering campaign and hopes of Hillary Clinton to win her party's Presidential nomination!

    Had Senator Clinton be forced to testify under oath, as a material witness and beneficiary of the fraud that her husband is being sued for before the Democratic Convention, her remote chances for being nominated the party candidate would have been unquestionably destroyed.

    Hillary has never publicly commented on the case in which she was a defendant from 2003-2006. Nor has Hillary ever commented on the videotaped phone call she made to Peter Paul the day he began spending more than $1 million for her Senate campaign, the false statements she made through Howard Wolfson to the Washington Post denying working with Paul or receiving any contributions from him, the sworn Declaration she made under oath where she refused to deny any of Paul's allegations, the role her White House aide Kelly Craighead played in coordinating Paul's expenditures and befirending Paul's Japanese business partner during a White House visit and many other unanswered questions of illegal conduct.

    The illegalities detailed in Paul's civil complaint and FEC complaint caused Hillary's finance director to be criminally indicted and tried in 2005 by the Department of Justice Office of Public Integrity (the same group that prosecuted Scooter Libby) for hiding the cost of a fundraiser paid for by Paul. Paul's FEC allegations forced Hillary's campaign to admit to the FEC in October, 2005, that it violated FEC reporting requirements by hiding more than $700,000 received from Paul that Hillary personally said she never received.

    Hillary's sworn deposition is expected to reveal numerous illegalities directed by Hillary, with Bill's help, to win and keep her Senate seat and avoid being accountable to the law. The judge's sua spontedecision to delay Hillary's deposition until after the presidential election denies the public's right to know what a presidential candidate and a former president have done to undermine the Rule of Law and the Constitution by corrupting the Department of Justice Office of Public Integrity and its very Chief, Noel Hillman, federal judge A Howard Matz appointed by Bill Clinton (who deceived the jury in the criminal trial of Hillary's finance director by telling the jury that Hillary was not involved in any way) and the FEC itself which aided and abetted Hillary filing a fourth false FEC report in January, 2006 that omitted any reference to the $1.2 million contribution the FBI and DOJ swore Paul made.

    The Department of Justice prosecutor in the May, 2005 criminal case stated that $1.2 million was personally contributed by Paul at the request of Bill Clinton as part of an employment deal for Clinton's post White House rainmaking services and was confirmed by FBI Special Agent David Smith as explained by Dept of Justice Prosecutor Dan Schwaber (pages 55,57,72) during the criminal trial of Hillary's finance director David Rosen in May 2005.
    Hillary's treasurer was later forced to admit filing the false FEC reports to hide more than $700,000 paid by Paul, and fined $35,000 (the only fine imposed on Hillary's campaign) yet Hillary has never answered one question to the media or the courts about these charges!

    In fact, Hillary's sworn Declaration in response to Paul's sworn allegations constituted a legal admission to Paul's charges becauseHillary refused to deny any of the allegations!
    Strangely, Hillary admitted to the Washington Post in August 2000 knowing that the fundraising event Paul produced and paid for in August, 2000 cost more than $1 million- yet Rosen was indicted on three counts of hiding this fact from Hillary's campaign causing 3 false FEC reports to be filed!

    The cover-up of the original felony violations of the federal election law committed by Hillary and Bill Clinton (they solicited and coordinated Paul's $1 million plus contribution as a quid pro quo for Clinton's post White House employment) have resulted in a corruption of every branch of the government by the Clinton's- all in plain view of the public and with the collusion of the media and the government. Watergate seems insignificant in the breadth of its public corruption in comparison with what has become the mother of all coverups orchestrated by Hillary Clinton.





    To keep up with the case on L.A Superior court, go to the L.A. Superior Court Website and type case number: BC304174

    [www.lasuperiorcourt.org]

  • JUST THE FACTS||

    05-19-2008 09:47 PM (151 visitas)

    V. Grimaldi
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Monday, May 19, 2008; A04


    When Hillary Rodham Clinton questioned rival Barack Obama's ties to 1960s radicals, her comments baffled two retired Bay Area lawyers who knew Clinton in the summer of 1971 when she worked as an intern at a left-wing law firm in Oakland, Calif., that defended communists and Black Panthers.

    "She's a hypocrite," Doris B. Walker, 89, who was a member of the American Communist Party, said in an interview last week. "She had to know who we were and what kinds of cases we were handling. We had a very left-wing reputation, including civil rights, constitutional law, racist problems."

    Malcolm Burnstein, 74, a partner at the firm who worked closely with Clinton during her internship, said he was traveling in Pennsylvania in April when Clinton attacked Obama for his past interactions with William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, members of Students for a Democratic Society who went on to found the bomb-making Weather Underground.

    "Given her background, it was quite hypocritical," Burnstein said. "I almost called the Philadelphia Inquirer. I saw what she and her campaign were saying about Ayers and I thought, 'Well, if you're going to talk about that totally bit of irrelevant nonsense, I'll talk about your career with us.' "

    In her campaign for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, Clinton has said little about her experiences in the tumultuous late 1960s and early 1970s, including her involvement with student protests and her brief internship at the law firm, Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein. She has said she worked on a child custody case, although former partners recall her likely involvement in conscientious objector cases and a legal challenge to a university loyalty oath.

    But her decision to target Obama's radical connections has spurred criticism from some former protest movement leaders who say she has opened her own associations to scrutiny.

    "The very things she's accusing Barack of could be said of her with much greater evidence," said Tom Hayden, a leading anti-Vietnam War activist, author and self-described friend of the Clintons.

    Robert Reich, who went to Yale Law School with Hillary Rodham and Bill Clinton and later served in the Clinton administration, called Hillary Clinton's attack on Obama "absurd," adding: "That carries guilt by association to a new level of absurdity. Where does guilt by association stop? I mean, she was a partner of Jim McDougal in the 1980s, for crying out loud." Reich is now an Obama supporter.

    In response to the assertion that Clinton is a hypocrite for calling out Obama's ties to Ayers, campaign spokesman Philippe Reines said: "The comparison is patently absurd." The campaign played down her friendship with a noted student protest leader and defended her work with the Oakland firm. "At the time she worked there, the firm was primarily at the forefront of civil rights advocacy cases, which was a good fit with Senator Clinton's long-standing interest in civil rights and constitutional law," Reines said.

    Clinton's associations date to her years as a student leader at Wellesley from 1965 to 1969. It was the height of student opposition to the Vietnam War, and Carl Oglesby, the president of Students for a Democratic Society, came to campus to speak.

    "I gave a talk at Wellesley, where she was a student," Oglesby said in a telephone interview from Amherst, Mass., where he is recovering from a stroke. "I can't say that I was a close friend of hers. It was more of a passing acquaintance. I liked her. I think of her as a good guy. I think she has a good heart and a solid mind. And I support her in the current primary."

    Oglesby had been close to Ayers and Dohrn, but the couple split with the more moderate SDS factions to form the Weather Underground, which engaged in a bombing campaign to try to stop the Vietnam War. The FBI monitored Oglesby throughout the period.

    The Clinton campaign suggested last week that she did not meet Oglesby until the 1990s, long after his activist years. But in recent interviews, Oglesby has made clear that she stood out in his memory as he traveled across the country speaking at rallies.

    In 1994, Clinton told Newsweek that Oglesby's writings in the 1960s helped persuade her to oppose the Vietnam War and to become a Democrat. She visited Oglesby in 1994 in Massachusetts, a meeting that was omitted from the First Lady's official schedule. Oglesby told the Boston Globe at the time, "We mostly discussed the '60s. I may have been a little gushy in my praise of the administration, but she was extremely impressive."

    Oglesby now talks warmly about Clinton. In an interview with Reason magazine, he called their association "a friendship, a comradeship, within the context of the movement. She and I, for a while, were warm with each other. She and I were semi-close."

    But Oglesby said he has not contacted Clinton because he is afraid that he could harm her candidacy.

    "A friend of mine mentioned me to her not long ago, and according to him she got a case of the shakes. I think it was because she could imagine if any of her considerable enemies on the right wanted to do her in, they would be happy to discover a relationship between her and me," he told the magazine.

    Clinton interned at Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein while attending Yale Law School. The firm defended the Black Panthers, including Angela Davis, and Clinton had been editor of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action, which included articles about Black Panther leader Bobby Seale's murder trial in New Haven, Conn.

    Author Gail Sheehy wrote about the internship in her book "Hillary's Choice." Sheehy, who also wrote a 1971 book about the Black Panthers, interviewed firm partner Robert Treuhaft, who described Hillary Rodham attending a New Haven fundraiser for Seale's defense that he threw with his wife, author Jessica Mitford. Treuhaft -- who, with his wife, left the Communist Party in 1958 -- died in 2001.

    Clinton kept up correspondence with the British-born Mitford through the early 1990s. "Top students like Hillary were much sought after by huge prestigious Wall Street-type law firms -- some, like Hillary, were far more interested in left-wing firms," Mitford wrote to a friend in 1992.

    In her autobiography, "Living History," Clinton details little of the firm's background. She wrote that she "spent most of my time working for Mal Burnstein researching, writing legal motions and briefs for a child custody case."

    But members of the firm have different recollections. Burnstein recalled her working on a case involving Stanford University students who refused to sign an oath attesting that they had never been communists.

    Walker said that Clinton probably worked on cases to help young men avoid the draft. "We did a whole lot of conscientious-objector work," she said.

    Hayden, one of the Chicago Seven who were acquitted of inciting riots at the 1968 Democratic National Convention, said he is disappointed that Clinton has tried to taint Obama with guilt by association.

    "Once you introduce the concept of guilt by association, everyone is in trouble because there is no end to it," he said. "The goal is to render Barack so unelectable that the party has to turn to her. Because the goal is so narrow and obsessive, she's not aware that she's also going to be collateral damage."

    Researcher Madonna Lebling and research editor Alice Crites contributed to this report.

  • ||

    Larry Johnson claims to have worked for the CIA. I'll assume he's lying about that too.

  • ||

    Sam | June 6, 2008, 10:17am | #
    I agree. I am tired of the blacks that seem to be jealous of Obama.
    The whites that don't like him? Just look at their way they write. Uneducated.



    hahahahaha....sweet irony


    bagster

  • ||

    can anyone say why he owuldnt be a good president. Please dont list republican 20 years in the pew talking points.


    cause hes a liberal commie racist moslem....duh




    bagster

  • ||

    its so cute how all the black racists and guilt-ridden self-hating white liberals come to the defense of these two racist scumbags (hussein and his wife)

    keep it up, idiots....yer crackin me up


    bagster

  • Ted||

    Sounds like BAGSTER listens to Hannity and Rush! He called OBAMA Hussein!! Oh that's clever. Really.

    This way ig-nant people can make a connection between the "terrorists" and Obama.
    That's perfect!

  • Jeff||

    "Hey! She can't say that! That's our word!"

    That's hilarious.

  • Ted||

    Bagster,

    ''It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, then to speak up and remove all doubt.''

    -Abraham Lincoln

  • ||

    ted,

    how dare you quote a great republican president who freed the slaves....

    best you stick with your muslim commie brother....

    heres a quote for ya

    "i hate whitey" ~ Reverend Jeremiah Wright

    and another,

    "i hate the jews" ~ Louise Farrakhan

    one more,

    "honey, dont be such an uncle tom" ~ Michelle Hussein Obama

    ooops one more...

    "change you can believe in" ~ Hussein



    lol


    bagster

  • Ted||

    Yeah, yeah. Same BS.

    I'm not saying that your bullshit won't work in the election. You voted for the current administration. Good job Bagster! Excellent!

    I'm sure you are pro defense spending. May even have a yellow ribbon magnet on your suv.


    CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME HOW JOHN McCAIN CAN VOTE AGAINST JIM WEBB'S GI BILL?

    Bagster :What? What? Huh? I hate whitey. I hate Whitey.hahah lol.

    Go listen to Monica Crowley in your car.

  • ||

    I fear if John McCain wins Cindy McCain will steal all of the olds peoples RXs for herself.

    Please dont vote in Cindy Pill Poper McCain. PROTECT THE SICK AND ELDERLY!

  • ||

    ted,

    dumbass....just cause i hate racist socialists with ties to gangsters (rezko) dont mean i support a socialist republican like mccain....dont be so prejudiced.....

    the only good thing about mccain is at least hes an american and will kill many many muslims....which is good enough for me

    prediction....after hussein loses this election (if hillary dont get him first), we will see CNN footage of him in the hills of afghanistan with a rocket launcher on his shoulder runnin around yellin, "allah akbar!! death to the infidel!"

    you commies are all the same.....and you are an suvist by the way...for your uneducated ass, thats a hippie with an unnatural fear of SUVs...


    heres another good one....go pull the flowers out of your hippie ass and stick those in the gas tank of your volkswagen mini-bus and see how far to san francisco you can get....

    flower child!!



    bagster

  • Ted||

    Ohhhh. You're a Michael Savage Fan !!!! I should have guessed.

    I have no fear of guns, God or SUV's.

    I have a fear that YOU have the right to vote.

  • ||

    teddy,

    nice try attempting to refute any idea you dont like by pulling some talk radio show hosts name out of your hippie ass....

    of course you fear SUVs.... youve made several anti-SUV cracks on this forum in attempts to be funny, but of course you have only revealed your hateful black soul in the process....

    yea, i have the right to vote....and have voted all my life against the socialist anti-american scum that you represent, and always will...

    gotta go...i left my SUV running in the garage just to piss you off


    bagster

    Nobama 08

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    p.s.

    god bless W





    bagster

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    Hi I thought your selection for a Democratic Presidential candidate was over yet you are still eating sour grapes over the result and the people involved. What did you expect a clean fight? If so you are too immature to vote and if No then you got what you expected and should have expected. Politicians are not in it for the benefit of ANYONE but themselves, FACT.!! Anyone who wants to be President should be eliminated on the grounds of self glory seeking, greed and insanity.

  • Ted||

    Bagster,

    Please define Socialism.(At your convenience)

    Have a groovy day!
    Teddy

    And you know damn well you listen to Michael Savage. Possibly watch Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck too. At least it sounds that way. Same talking points. Same BS.

  • Ted||

    God Bless Bagster. And Pepes, this is a Political forum. Just thought you should know.

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    teddy,

    im sure you know what socialism is.....and rest assured that i do too....

    are you testing me? sorry, i will not be tested by hippies....i do the testing around here, moonchild...

    heres a test for you.....how is obama, rated the MOST liberal senator in the senate after only three short years, NOT a socialist? do you even pay attention?

    lets, just for the sake of argument, agree that we both know what the term means....

    but with obama, add a hint of racism, and islam, and an angry bitter racist wife and you get a whole nother breed of socialist....dontcha? you have to agree with me on this....after all, yer not a stupid man, right? this is not to mention his greasy associates and spiritual "mentors" (wright, ayers, rezko, farrakhan)....

    what is it about you commie america haters that makes you so willing to overlook obvious corruption and character flaws (a la the clinton and kennedy crime families)in your politicians? do you hate america that much or do you just refuse to see.....i cant believe you are that ignorant...

    but i could be wrong about that...


    bagster

    p.s. dude.....consider the possibility that more than one person can have the same opinion on things....not everybody is a blank mind waiting to be told what to say by political pundits....thats more of a liberal trait, dont you think? after all, nothing they believe has anything to do with reason or logic....

    liberals = useful idiots



    bagster

    keep em comin teddy boy

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    "By the way, just a general question to white people on the board. If you have never said the word "nigger", have you ever thought it in your head? [Please read the Ginsburg interview posted the other day before replying.]"


    hahahahahahahahaha.....wow.....thank you thought police

    welcome to the brave new world....

    american liberalism is the new facism



    bagster

    some pigs are more equal than others

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    "Art-P.O.G. | June 5, 2008, 4:08pm | #
    And the "because he/she's black" thing is so played. So played."


    basic truths dont become untrue just from being repeated, POG....

    just so you know



    bagster

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    so ok,

    rereading this thread, i have come to the following conclusion.....most of you, including the hippies, angry racist blacks, and guilty white libs, all feel that if michelle obama went on a tirade in a public forum decrying the evils of "whitey" that it would be a bad thing and politically damaging to your boy obama...right?

    ok cool...common ground....

    now, lets assume that if this tape exists or not, that it never sees the light of day....

    lets next assume that obama actually gets the democrat nomination and that hillary dont get him before august.....

    that still leaves a lot of time until november, the spotlight shining ever brighter on the lovely miss obama....

    do any of you think this racist sister souljah will be able to keep her mouth shut that long without slippin? lol....good luck with that....


    bagster

    the fun has only just begun

  • Ted||

    guilty of what? Are you still in the garage with the engine on? Wake up. Your guy fucked the pooch. He's a liar. This is bullshit Bagster.

    God will deal with W in his own time.

  • Ted||

    And yet again, the Republicans will run with a retarded guy and probably win. I guess Repub's are more comfortable with people who act and look the same. Golf, SUV's, Hannity. Christian, except when it come's to their bullshit support of Israel. The real reason is that the FundaMENTAList believe that once the Jews have all gone home, God will come and slaughter them. And then only the saved will fly to heaven without their clothes.

    Sounds awfully similar to the whole 76 virgins. Huh BAGster?

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    by "my guy" i assume you are talking about president bush....see? i can figure shit out....

    white liberal guilt...let me explain...again....

    for some reason, you commie-libs feel guilty about slavery, as if you yourself kept slaves....your guilt leads you to give everything to blacks and to forgive them of all transgressions....trouble with your guilt is this...you still have no respect for black people....you think them incapable of doing for themselves and you treat them like little children, keeping them on your plantation and feeding them welfare checks and affirmative action programs...hell, youll even act like you love a corrupt lying socialist scumbag like obama and vote for him for president....

    do you understand your guilt now, teddy?

    you should strive to be more like conservatives, and believe in liberty, freedom, and individual rights...we respect all peoples and believe in the human spirit....thats something you utopians just dont get....you are the true racists, my friend....

    im gonna assume that you supported bill clinton when he was president....if you did, dont you think its a bit hypocritical of you to call anybody a liar? that man (and his butt ugly lesbian wife) wouldnt know the truth if it smacked them upside the head....and on that note....explain to me what bush EVER lied about....bet you cant....but i guess calling him a liar over and over makes it true, eh? hahahaha....you idiots never cease to amaze me...

    so you dont support israel huh? yea that figures.....a jew hater....and you call us the fascists? amazing....youd fit right in at auschwitz, herr teddy....you and the mohammedens can prance around with your gulags and push israel into the sea....thats what this is all about really isnt it ted....

    you have revealed your true motives.....you hate jews and christians AND SUVs and friggin golf? wtf has golf ever done to you for gods sake....

    ted, i think you may be some kind of left wing fascist jew hating SUVist maniac....

    so i guess obama is the perfect candidate for you....he hates jews and christians too....he likes bowling though, ive heard


    bagster

    typical white person (and bitter too)

    lol

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    by the way, ted...its 70 virgins....you should pay more attention when you are at mosque



    bagster

    inshallah

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    "Socialism is a socio-economic system in which essential industries (ex. Health Care), social services (ex. Welfare), property and the distribution of wealth are publicly and cooperatively owned and democratically controlled."

    That pretty much defines the current Democrat Party, especially Obama. Except the part about "Democratically Controlled", of course. That's the typical Socialist selling point but it always seems to be forgotten when the moochers finally have power.

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    Hey, I've heard of a video of John McCain having sex with underage Vietnamese children.

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    I am a Republican and I take offence to people making up false rumors and propaganda. What is to be gained by bashing a good person and candidate like Obama. We should stick to the facts and vote for or against a candidate on what they stand for and what they are going to try to accomplish and not make personal.

    When people like this reporter bring these false statements out it is just sabotage to our system of government, country and people.

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    But McCain can openly spew racist slurs in public and the media doesn't even give it the time of day when the man looks set to go head to head with Obama for the White House and possibly become the President for over 12 million Asian-Americans, or "gooks" as McCain calls them.

    Double standards? That hardly covers it. The corporate media are once again protecting their war candidate, Mr. "bomb bomb bomb Iran", Mr. "stay in Iraq for 100 years" while crucifying Paul for comments made by other people that pale in comparison to McCain's personal vitriol about his deep-seated hatred of "gooks".

  • Ted||

    Bagster you're clueless.

    Gern, thanks for the definition. I know what socialism is. The Dem's are not doing anything remotely close to this. In fact they are pretty limp. They don't have the 60 votes yet. They will after November. Maybe then we can take care of people in this country. I for one would rather do that then borrow money from communist china to pay for a bullshit war with our new boogey man,the Islamic Fundamentalists. The same guys we armed and fought with against the Communists.

    But I am happy to see you can google. AND cut and paste.

    And Bagster? It's 72 Virgins. I stand corrected. I get it confused with 76 Trombones. Thank you for the correction and you're welcome too. Bill Clinton left that job 9 yrs ago, I didn't support his wife for President and I'm not interested in her being on the ticket.

    now to explain to you what Sean Hannity won't...

    Christian Fundamentalists support Israel because when all the Jews finally come home, God will slaughter them and the saved (Evangelical Christians) will be let into heaven without their clothes. This is what the literature says.

    In short the Christian Right supports Israel to bring about the Rapture.

    Awful lotta killin and hatin' for some red blooded merican's.

    Oh and I think I am going to get the new VW SUV
    The Tiguan. The lease on my passat wagon is up and I need all wheel drive.

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    Actually, I went straight to Wiki for the definition. I Google "socialism" and all I get are links to intestinal parasites.

  • Ted||

    And just to be clear, by "bullshit support of Israel" I mean just that. That the support is fake. Not genuine. It's not that supporting Israel is bullshit. I hope that's clear, before you start off on a rant about hating jewish people or christians. The Christians I am refering to are a small 7% of the Christian community. I am a Christian. The New testament kind. Interesting though, only 7% of the Islamic Community is fundamentalist. 7%. Same. Hmmmm. 'Ain't that peculya!

  • Ted||

    Gern,

    That's pretty funny. Thank you for the levity.

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    When John McCain said "gooks", he was clearly speaking about his time spent in a North Vietnamese prison and the term was specifically applied to his captors. After he said it, he sincerely apologized to any Vietnamese people who were offended by it.

    I don't like McCain, and I won't be voting for him in November. But I think that after being beaten and tortured for five years he should be expected to have a little bitterness against the individuals who did it to him. Call him a hotheaded RINO if you must, but he's not a racist.

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    Gern, lets face it, Michelle was born on the tail end of Jim Crow. A vicious age of anti-African American attacks from majority Whites. Watching her father and Mother abused by white society was torture.

    My story: I'm only seven years older than Michelle born in the mist of Jim Crow Mississippi. My uncles suffered from Jim Crow till their death. Beaten left for dead by two white boys then arrested for almost dying on the side walk. One of my uncles went into the armed service at 15 to help his mother financially. Whites called him Nigger as though it was his first name. They sh-t in his bed and his shoes every week. And when he could not take anymore abuse, the white controlled American armed forces gave him a dishonorable discharge. He died recently and on his dying bed forgave whites for the torture.

    Whites murdered a black man by hanging him from a local downtown bridge. My sisters and I were not allowed to go through the front door of the local theaters and we were forced to sit in the balcony because the floor was forbidden for negroes to sit there. If we violated that rule we could have been murdered. The local burger joint drive-through window was the nigger window, because we were not allowed inside the store. Dogs from a local fire station was released on me by whites while I walked to a mostly white neighborhood to get to school.

    I can go on and on but does this give me the right to call those white people "whitey". I'm sure Michelle had to watch her father and mother go through just as much if not worst. Her husband lived in a mostly non racist environment except for his racist grandmother. Now, do this give Michelle the right to call Bush and his cabinet "whitey". I thought so and neither does it give John McCain the right to call Asians "gooks".

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    my ancestors were abused by the english in ireland.....everybodys ancestors were abused by somebody else at some point in history....

    michele obama has reaped many benefits from this country....she had a first rate education and i highly doubt that she has had it any other way but easy in this country....rather than thank america for the blessings she has been bestowed with, she chooses to "god damn america" and blast on the white man...

    she is a racist pure and simple....there is no justification for it.....

    how far back should our grievances allow us to hold onto hatreds, deapp?

    i dont recommend electing hate filled racists to high public office....let michelle and hussein go back to chicago and continue on with their "community organizing" and stoke the fires of race hatred....but god forbid they should lead a great and free people....


    bagster

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    ted,

    heres what clueless.....asking for the definition of socialism and when you get it, mocking the provider as a "cut and paster" and claiming you already know what it is....and further claiming that democrats cant be socialists until they hold a 60 seat majority in the senate....now THATS clueless....

    bagster

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    ted,

    another pro tip for ya....

    the boogey man doesnt exist...now if he came out from under the bed and bombed innocent men, women, and children, but the heads off infidels, and flew planes into buildings full of innocent people, tried to commit genocide against an entire race of people (jews) then maybe he would be real....and we could call em moslems....

    boogey man?

    wake up



    bagster

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    oh and teddy,

    its not just christian fundamentalists the support israel...

    many of us support them because they are a free people and democracy in the midst of one of the most barbaric backward areas of the world....smack dab in the middle of people that would push them into the sea....

    why do you commie libs want to ally yourselves with them? why do you attack all religions except islam? it boggles the mind, to tell you the truth....

    bagster

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    Bagster, you're obviously guilty of:

    1) Multiple straw men
    2) Spamming
    3) Multiple Godwin's Law violations

    It boggles the mind indeed.

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    POG

    1) i am guilty of multiple truths....you just cant handle the truth

    2) "spamming" is a word from the nerd vocabulary

    citing godwins law is in and of itself a violation of godwins law when its the truth...

    pog, do you have any relevant points to make?


    bagster

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    heres some spam for ya, pogy

    "However, Godwin's Law itself can be abused, as a distraction or diversion, that fallaciously miscasts an opponent's argument as hyperbole, especially if the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate. A 2005 Reason magazine article argued that Godwin's Law is often misused to ridicule even valid comparisons."

    stick that in your pocket


    bagster

    boggled

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    pog, do you have any relevant points to make?

    I think you proved my point. It's a waste of time for any intelligent person to waste time arguing with you (a troll). Have a good day!

  • Ted||

    Blablabalster,

    I was less than a mile from the towers on 9/11. My wife was a few blocks away from me.
    There were fighter jets and people covered in dust and burnt plastic, and none of us knew what was happening.

    It was the most frightening and saddest day of m life.

    We were all in agreement when we went in to Afghanistan to get Bin Laden. But we didn't get
    em' In fact Cheney's Bitch say's he "don't thank bout em' much".

    Iraq is about the contracts. That's it. Don't be a sucker.

    I know you probably have given up Golf for the troops too. How about the GI Bill?

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    Bagster, I have to hand it to you - you are one hell of a good troll.


    Responding in a minute at
    3:37 am.... thats dedication to trolling you just dont see often.

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    72 hours to a Godwin citation? That seems forced. This whole load of drivel is sad, just like an Obama candidacy. Personally, I would have prefered Edwards as a pre-beaten electoral pinata, but B. Hussein will do, even with the proto-Socialist choice we have on the Right. Is Michelle as racist? Absolutely, and I don't need to see YouTube video of her to know it, I can just listen to any of her stump speeches. The puppet masters that pull her huband's string don't use the A list speechwriters for her material and the true welfare-craving, entitlement-lusting beyotch comes through.

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    I came to America as a refugee child in 1947 and had never been indoctrinated in racism, but as a standard brand "white" person, was from the beginning shocked by the attitude toward dark people, who in that era looked and dressed like any Europeans I had seen. To read about separate facilities in the South, to read about beatings and lynchings, made me very cautious about becoming assimilated into this culture.To me, Michelle Obama spoke the obvious truth.What troubles me is how many African American youths TODAY in cities are separating themselves from the Standard American Image of LLBean and Eddie Bauer, which makes them at first glance just look foreign.I voted for Obama in the primary and will vote for him in November, I don't in any way consider him black OR white, he's a bright guy with a bright wife and perhaps his elegant image will inspire young black men to succeed WITHIN the culture rather than battling.

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    WHY HATE, JUST EXCEPT THE NEW PRESIDENT OBAMA, HE IS HERE TO STAY, STOP THE TRASH TALKING.............DAMN!!!!!!

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    I swear every time the Weigster blogs about Obama, this site's views must rise exponentially. Obamatons and playa-haters I've never seen before converge on the site with incredible speed.

  • Ted||

    McCain has one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate. He is not a Socialist.

    He's Pro-Life, he's agreed with Bush on just about everything except Global Warming. He's not as myopic in that regard. He at the very least admits there is a problem. They are even on the same page or close with regards to immigration. He sought support from the Cukoos ( Hagee,ect, ect).

    And again, I ask. Why would a former prisoner of war vote against benefits for the troops? He agrees with Bush. Oh it would effect Troop retention. That's just manure. It would cost money. Maybe the Chinese and Japanese want to lend us money for that?



    There is nothing anyone can point to over the past 7 yrs and say "Heck of a job Bushie". Not one policy. Nada.

    Wait, I stand corrected. They did create some jobs at the airports. Now we can't bring more the 3 oz's of mouthwash. Billions spent on that. But that's ok. Flying is prohibitively
    expensive.

    And the whole HUSSEIN thing is really to easy. But as we know, there are people in this country that believe Iraq attacked the US on September 11th. Thank you West Virginia and Ohio.

    Proto-Socialist, Islamo-Facist,Welfare craving, racist, bla bla bla. No one has Michael Moore to kick around this time?

    No one gives a fuck about her alleged racism. It's our own ideas that get's in the way of anything new. Fear. The difference between
    Republicans and Progressive ( besides the whole reading/thinkers thing)is we know those feelings are wrong and we can work on them. Denial my friend, it's the first thing we must lick before we can ask for help.

  • Ted||

    and please forgive the spelling, Gram. errors. I'm too peeved to read over...

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    Ted, I appreciate what you said. And the GI Bill thing bothered me. OK, if the cost is too prohibitive, I'd understand McCain voting against it, but saying "it would hurt retention?" To me, that's crap. Some people like the military and want to make a career out of it, but let's face it, if a person's unhappy, they're going to try to get out whenever their contract's up.
    The GI Bill is one of the great reasons to join the military in the first place, and frankly I think 'perpetual war' would hurt military retention worse than a beefed-up GI Bill.
    Just my two cents.

  • Ted||

    Thank you Art. I agree with you 100%. This should a major issue when the debates start.

    I like the way you think!

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    what you got to be so peeved about teddy boyo? lol

    you "progressives" are the funniest....sooo much anger inside this one.....

    mccain has a conservative voting record? lol....and i bet you think bush is a conservative too dontcha? dude, you have no idea what a conservative is do you....yea, he voted 95 percent of the time with bush policies but im here to tell ya....bush is no conservative...

    for one thing, mccain agrees with you global warning ignoramuses....hes nothing but a pandering suck-up....maverick my ass....the ONLY reason i would consider voting for the scumbag is to keep moslem manchurian candidate commie scum and racist black pigs out of the white house....so yea, i might vote for the douche....

    heck of a job, bushie on lowering taxes and kicking islamic ass....oh yea...nice job on the supreme court too....

    look teddy....taxes and security are really two very good legacies for a president....i know i know, you crave a more active federal government.....hell, you probably want the government to assign somebody to come tuck your liberal ass in at night.....but guess what.....the government that governs least, governs best.....thats the trouble with you big government nanny state dependant "progressives"....

    lower my taxes, kick my enemies ass....and shut the fuck up....thanks government....

    and dude...we dont need michael moore to kick around.....we got hussein for gods sake...he makes moore look like john wayne....and good luck getting hussein to debate on veterans or anything military....hahahahahahaha.....hes a bigger pussy than clinton....


    bagster

    p.s. hey teddy, dont forget to give pog a reach-a-round

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    "I think you proved my point. It's a waste of time for any intelligent person to waste time arguing with you (a troll). Have a good day!"

    so then you should have no problem arguing with me, right pog?

    dont worry, ive had this reaction before....kick somebodys ass in a debate and they are all like....but but....youre a troll!! lol....i dont blame you poggy...i wouldnt wanna enter into an obviously losing situation either....

    like teddy and most liberals....you aint got a chance....wanna know why? because your losing philosophy of socialism, liberalism, progressivism, whatever the current euphemism for communism is, is based on a foundation of sand....there is no reason or logic tied to what you believe in, only emotion....you guys are like hysterical women on their period....you cry and piss and moan about things like global warming, healthcare, THE CHILDREN, etc and when somebody smacks your womanly ass in the vagina with logic and reason, you just cant hang....

    so yea pog...im a troll (rolls eyes)....if that makes you feel better.....still dont make you right about nothin though....you dont sound half as ignorant as ted though, ill give you that....

    hillary and hussein get down on their knees and pray to the god of lesbians and allah every night for ignorant emotional girly men like you guys though....without you they wouldnt have a constituency....



    bagster

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    "We were all in agreement when we went in to Afghanistan to get Bin Laden. But we didn't get
    em' In fact Cheney's Bitch say's he "don't thank bout em' much"."


    one more troll before i go about my business....

    only an idiot would think that capturing or killing one guy (bin laden) is gonna fix the problem of islamic imperialism and their terrorist tactics...

    you dems are like small children



    bagster

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    dont worry, ive had this reaction before....[random inanities in a debate and they are all like....but but....youre a troll!!

    And only a troll would think being repeatedly called a troll by other people would mean that he is not a troll.
    Thanks for proving my point about your ignorance by asserting that 1)we're democrats here and 2)anyone that is a proponent of AGW is an "ignoramus". I really hope that you're just trolling and not being sincere, because if you honestly believe the crap you spew you are actually stupid. That's not me trying to insult you. If you actually believe the crap you say, you suffer from some form of developmental disability.

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    dont worry pog...im not too worried about being called a troll....thats just more nerd-speak....but you go right on, nerdy...

    yes, i truly believe that what you call AGW is complete stupidity....tens of thousands of scientists have debunked you enviro-whackos and your green political power grab commonly known as global warming....

    and anybody that buys into that crap is truly ignorant....

    how does it feel to be a sheep?



    bagster

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    Cesar? You really had me going, man. Good one. I really mean it.

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    Look, man...you can come in from the cold. I don't know what they did to you, but...everything's gonna be all right. You're with people that love you.

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    who are you talking to, nerdy mcnerdpants?



    bagster

  • Ted||

    Bushter,

    Lowering taxes without cutting spending is not conservative. When you get a chance go and wikki or whatever and read about Goldwater and William F. Buckley. Not Kristol. He's as retarded as Bush.

    When I was refering to McCain's voting record I was talking about BEFORE Bush as well.

    AND John Wayne was a draft dodger, Reagan suffered from severe dementia. This is the same shit over and over. Same aholes screwing things up over and over (Cripes these guys were with Nixon and Ford!)

    Even Lee Aicoca who campaigned for Bush in 2000 says "we got the wrong son.There's something wrong with his brain". Details magazine interview.


    GI Bill. GI Bill GI BILL. Until you support it you should take that yellow magnet off of your explorer.

    Obviously 70% of the Country agrees. His Job performance rating is lower than his coke addled IQ.

    Yeah, yeah, I know. Don't say it. At least Obama came clean about his drug use. When will you Bagster? Come on now. Didn't you do a little blow at the Frat house?
    Huh? Maybe a Beer Ball and an eight Ball between you and the aspiring financeers?

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    lol

    there ya go teddy boy....a little humor mixed in with your commie taking points...it does help...

    yep, yer right about both bush and mccain are both non-conservative....they both act under the illusion that, by compromising with the socialists, that they can get the media and the deluded ignorant left wing (people like you) to like them....

    they and people like them need to realize that, no matter how you compromise with the left, they will always hate you....

    so seriously.....fuck the left....but bush did lower my taxes and he is kicking the shit out of islam....and he did, after some pushing, nominate some decent supreme court justices....so right there hes better than any scumbag democrat that will ever come down the pike....

    and please stop touting some g.i. bill as if you are a hawk and give two shits about america or our military....are you kidding me? is it fun to play politics with something you fundamentally disagree with in the first place? all i need to know about the current g.i. bill is that obama voted for it....thats enough to tell me it aint worth a shit....

    you are a pretty good conspiracy theorist though ted....ill bet you totally disregarded all the credible evidence of bill clintons cocaine use but sure jumped on the ooo ooo bush used cocaine with absolutely zero evidence...

    funny thing about you leftists....you always project your own failings onto your betters....years of a serial grifter and consummate lying scumbag (clinton) you ignore or defend, but when a decent man takes office, you accuse him of all the things your boy was guilty of....

    sorta like how you are ignoring the corruption and character flaws of your boy obama....after all, the agenda is all that matters, eh?

    as hard as the left has been trying to find some scandal to pin on bush, youd think they woulda come up with something by now, dontcha think? howd that libby thing work out? lol....

    just remember...your people are the ones with bad character

    for the record....bush's job approval rating, based on taxes and national security is 100% with people that matter....


    bagster

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BtJG0BonMQ


    hee hee

  • Ted||

    Ok. Again, check out McCain's voting record prior to 2000. It's pretty far right.

    2nd, I hate the Hannity speak "Hawk". It's pretty pathetic. Do you have any ideas that are your own? I'm not talking about Obama. I'm talking about right and wrong.

    The GI Bill was written by Jim Webb (a former Republican,someone who served and has a son serving). It's fairly simple. The same benefits our Soldiers had after World War II. Nothing more. You don't know anything about me or my family. Who has served, who is in the NRA Charter Member, Most of them are Republicans. My brother is a defense contractor with employees in IRAQ and currently Mexico.

    None of them are dumb enough to shovel the horseshit you do. You listen to the radio. You watch Fox and you are a sucker. Period.


    It's ok. We've been here before. You will no doubt spit out some more bullshit like "oh well, uh, with the information we had uh then, uh, it seemed like Iran was going, uh, uh, going to uh uh develop NUKULAR weapons uh uh and bomb our troops in Iraq and uh uh....uh. uh. What I mean is this is hard work".

    There is no conspiracy. NONE. The Iraq deal is simple. It's not about Freedom. Afghanistan was the perfect excuse to start to some shit and make some bucks.

    No one is going to take your golf clubs or your hootie cd's. I promise. I bet you like dat Darius Rucker. He's like a white guy.

    You fucking typical right wing-scared-pro life, except for people who are different- close minded -golf playing -suv driving - coors light drinking -nascar watching -titty bar going to -bill o'reilly lovin- dick wad.

  • Ted||

    They hate us for our Freedom
    They hate is for our Freedom

    Rarrrk Rarrrk

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    hahahaha....now yer startin to lose it teddy boy....calm down...

    hootie? lol

    you are proof that the mental gymnastics one has to perform to become a liberal drive a man insane...

    sean hannity invented the word hawk? dude yer obsessed with hannity, golf, and SUVs....what the fuck is up with that?

    seriously.....please stop acting like you give a fuck about our veterans....you remind me of all the democrat traitors in congress and the socialist civilian traitors who say they support the troops while at the same time lending aid and comfort to our enemies....

    so seriously....please be consistent and keep the hypocrisy down if you will...thanks...

    you white guilt havin, jew hating, enviro-whacko, fascist thought police, big brother lovin, birkenstock wearin, power to the people, terrorist lovin douche bag...

    lol..see i can play too, hippie boy



    bagster

  • ||

    "Ok. Again, check out McCain's voting record prior to 2000. It's pretty far right."


    ummm...actually no...not its not....why do you think conservatives hate him?

    you should read more



    bagster

  • Papalmonkey||

    Larry's in trouble once his sex tape gets out:
    nonickel.blogspot.com

  • ||

    Now let me get this straight. White people are blogging that Michelle Obama made racist comments about the evil of white racism and now other white people are doing away with said racism by blogging the truth from a racist-free perspective?

    Or is this just politics or part of the human stain of fear?

    And why would a black person say ANYTHING against white racism in a racist manner?

    What brought THAT on?

  • Leo||

    Does anyone still seriously listen to a word Larry Johnson says? I could have told you this was lies before he even posted it!

  • Ted||

    Oh Bag-Pipe,

    Same bullshit,different day. You win. You are too smart for me.

    I am going to write in Ron Paul. Thanks for showing me the light.


    You're tough Dude. A Hawk! Where was your tour?

  • Schog||

    SCUM-BAG...ster

  • ||

    "You are too smart for me."


    im gonna have to finally agree with you there, teddy boy...

    i like how you envoked the names of your family members who ARENT commie scumbags to lend you some type of credibility....i bet theyre real proud of you, you traitorous puke....

    have a very nice day...i accept your unconditional surrender


    bagster

  • ||

    SCHOG-your sister

    lol


    bagster

  • ||

    Its true. It happened. Confirmation from a Clinton lawyer. Now in McCain's hands.

  • ||

    David, excellent post. It inspired me to attempt to post a comment on Johson's website's latest blog. It was to the effect of "Johnson - You lied about the Michelle Obama tape (http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html), so we have to assume you're lying about this too. Obama won the nomination - grow up and get over it."

    My post lasted a couple minutes before it was scrubbed. So not only does he post lies and innuendo as if they were the truth, but he is too thin skinned to take any criticism. In contrast he lets stand comments linking Obama to the Hitler Youth Movement and Black Panthers and Marxists and Hamas and Farakahn and the fact that Obama is a Muslim!!

    Very reminiscent of the Right wing pages he used to target but has now wholeheartedly joined.

  • Ted||

    Shit-Bagster

    Nah, my family is embarrassed by Bush. They will support McCain because that's what you people do. I'm not cocncerned about McCain. He's kind of, um, um,,,um,,,oh yeah, old.

    I know yer a 'merican, bla bla bla.....It's horseshit. We are all Americans. Some more retarded than others (that would be you for the 100% approval rating you gave to numbnuts yesterday)


    I have never once thought that Bush was good man. This has nothing, at all to do with Clinton or Gore. Bush is just not a good man.
    I knew he would implode. Scott McClellan's book is only the begining. We will be reading about this BS for years to come. Oh and don't fret.I'm not buying the "traitors" book. There's nothing in it we didn't already know.

    You can probably stream Rush if you hurry.

  • ||

    "Obama to the Hitler Youth Movement and Black Panthers and Marxists and Hamas and Farakahn and the fact that Obama is a Muslim!"

    yup yup....you disagree?


    bagster

  • ||

    haha teddy boy...so you not only hate jews, golf, suvs, nascar, coors lite, but old people too? you are just full of hate....you should strive to be more non-judgmental and tolerant...lol

    dont you hate when your own p.c. bullshit is used back on ya, you fascist hater?

    yes of course bush is a good man....specially when compared to elitist scumbags like kerry, gore, clinton, obama, and the rest of the pieces of shit you dem-coms put up as representation....

    trouble with you pukes is you wouldnt recognize a good man if he came up and buggered you in the anoos....

    another good thing about bush is he isnt a poll driven douche like your fake ass politicians....he does the right thing despite what your fake ass polls say...remember the last commie president we had? clinton wouldnt wipe his ass unless the polls told him it was ok....yea...thats what we need....sorta like how osucka is flip flopping all over the map on iran, depending on who he is talking to...

    thats the trouble with you socialists....you try so hard to hide what you really believe in that you cant remember what lie you told last....

    anyway....good try teddy....you aint ready for me, boyo.....better get back to the blogs where everybody agrees with your sorry ass and your ignorant assertions go unchallenged....its much easier that way, eh?

    d.u. scumbag



    bagster

  • Ted||

    Douche-Bagster

    I hope you are prepared to be fucking angry for the next 8 yrs. You can bet there won't be any blow Jobs in the oval office or Wars with Iran.

    Get Pissed. Listen to Hannity. You're the racist. I'm sure your Dad is a racist too. That crap usually rolls down hill.

  • Ted||

    FASCISM:

    often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

    This would be Cheney and Bush. Not Clinton or Obama or even McCain.

    You are still a dumbass.

  • Ted||

    And Bush didnt have to worry about winning in 04. Diebold handled that. That's why he doesn't give a fuck about polls. Because he doesn't give a fuck about anything other than the agenda that was laid out for him by his zoo keepers. He's a Chimp.

  • ||

    wrong again, douchebag....democrats believe in central planning....its in the communist manifesto, you tool.....go check our your bookcase...

    funny thing in your definition and the only part of it that conservatives actually do believe in is the word "individual" we do in fact believe that government exists to protect the rights of the individual.....but anyway, nice try fascist

    funny that you put the definition up though....race baiters like hillary and obama? treating individuals like they are part of a victimized group? separating us along racial and economic lines? severe economic and social regimentation? and the best one of all....forcible suppression of opposition?

    jesus christ teddy you just defined the definition of the modern "progressive"

    i guess you just havent been paying attention over the last forty years or so....i dont blame you though....id turn a blind eye to the shit dem-coms do too if i were you....

    you people are so ignorant its unbelievable....

    useful idiots


    bagster

  • ||

    hahahahaha...still whining about florida huh? still sorry your boy got caught trying to steal an election?

    dont let facts get in the way of what you believe, monkeyshine....your kind never do....even your liberal organizations, after several recounts of all votes, found that bush won.....but again, those pesky facts....

    tell me how the jews bombed the twin towers, conspiracy boy


    bagster

  • Ted||

    Uh, no. Wrong Again. Im talking about Ohio in 04 and I explained about Israel and The Christian right. That's a fact Jack-ass.

    Again, you poor fucking pathetic jack-ass trying use Sept 11th as a reason for Iraq.
    You were no where near any danger on 9/11, lost no friends or co-workers or possibly no income. Don't use it as a reason to defend your foolish choice for President in 00 and 04.
    Just come clean. You can't stand him. You made a mistake.

    God ( the forgiving one) will forgive you.


    I don't listen to crazy people. I'm sure that I know who took down the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. They were Saudi's living in Afghanistan. Oh man you are fucking stupid.
    Didn't you read about this?

  • ||

    "Douche-Bagster

    I hope you are prepared to be fucking angry for the next 8 yrs. You can bet there won't be any blow Jobs in the oval office or Wars with Iran.

    Get Pissed. Listen to Hannity. You're the racist. I'm sure your Dad is a racist too. That crap usually rolls down hill."


    ooo baby i missed this gem....oh yea, if that coke snorting, homosexual, moslem, lying, racist, communist, hatemonger gets in the whitehouse ill be mad as fuck....not at him....he is what he is....but at ignorant fucks like YOU who voted for the piece of shit.....they say we get the kind of government that we deserve, and if we get that appeasing communist arab loving douche then i guess we deserve it.....its a damn shame, really....

    america was the last best hope for humanity, after all.....

    just another pro tip though, teddy boy....yer the only one that spouted any racist rhetoric on this forum.....remember your friends the jews? lol....racist....

    on another note, isnt it funny how in modern america two white males can sit around yelling "YOURE the racist!!' at each other....lol

    tell you the truth, if i were a racist, as defined by your racist ass, id be the very first to admit it....fact is, you commies pretend to like blacks but you treat them like little children and take their votes for granted, keeping them on your plantation with affimrative action and welfare checks...you dont think them capable of making it on their own without the benevolence of your government tit....thats the difference between my people and yours, you racist....then when things dont go your way, your true feelings toward them come out, i.e. billy jeff-bob bubba clinton....hahahahahahaha

    oh, heres a quote from hillary when she was in the white house, "fucking jew bastard!!"

    lol....im the racist? sorry to break your bubble teddy boy, but youre projecting again....


    RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    hahahhahahahahaha


    bagster

  • ||

    lol....ohio is even more of a stretch, conspiracy boy.....you got all the whacko theories down dontcha...

    yes, i remember that you hate both christians and jews....

    i lost no income? lol....lots of people didnt lose any income or friends or family when the japanese bombed pearl harbor either....so i guess america shoulda just went about its business and sued somebody, right?

    you traitorous piece of trash.....you have no sense of pride in your country or your people....its your kind that will lay down as our enemies sweep over us, you appeasing jackal faced coward.....

    good thing that bush stole two elections from your type of pussy, otherwise we wouldnt be in iraq and afghanistan killing mohammedans on a daily basis....whew....

    god bless W


    bagster

  • ||

    p.s.

    jackass is one word, you illiterate racist



    bagster

  • Ted||

    Oh man. You are still angry about the Clintons.

    Again, just to be clear. I said "Bullshit support of Israel". That is to say that the Right's support of Israel is about Religion.
    Bringing about the end. The Rapture. I never once said anything derogatory about Jewish people. Never once. It's the Christian nutters that I dislike.

    Obama is not Muslim. His name is. His father was Muslim. He was not raised by that man.

    George Bush does not live a true Christian life. He would be the equivalent of a Jihadist
    if he were Muslim. He would be just be a soldier in Bin Ladens Organization. He kind of is now. He does exactly what Bin Laden wants.

    And I love the Gays. LOVE

  • ||

    yup...still angry about the clintons....we wouldnt be in iraq if it werent for that sorry ass cracker...of course, thats a whole nother debate which ill gladly engage your ignorant ass in if you like...

    sorry to tell ya, the right supports israel for global-political reasons....there may be some that do for the lame reason you state, but thats hardly the main reason...im sure you know that though...

    so if you are against our support of israel then you must agree with the PLO and Hamas and the Iranian dictator, and bin laden, and the rest of the moslem world that they must be wiped off the map and swept into the sea? you dont like christian nutters but you like arab nutters? how did that happen to you?

    obama is not a moslem? you probably should read up on his personal history as well as the history of the church and leaders of that church that he just pretended to disavow....you may be in for some startling education....but i agree.....hussein cant be openly moslem and run for president of the united states.....good job on believing anything youre told

    and i consider president bush more in keeping with the legacy of richard the lionheart or some king engaged in a crusade to stop arab encroachment on european lands....go go go

    so...you love the gays, huh? why is that? cause they are gay? you mean to say you dont judge a man on the content of his character but the color of his panties? lol...figures....

    myself? i judge people on their character rather than the color of their skin or what appendage they like in their ass.....

    but you go, racist


    bagster

    onward christian soldiers

  • ||

    http://www.stentorian.com/cartoons/2008/field_negro.jpg

    lol...check out this link for more of the racist rhetoric of the obama campaign...

    nope.....hes the "post-racial" candidate....

    hahahahahahahaha.....


    bagster

  • Bagster||

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2028391/posts


    ooops...try this one....this was disappeared off the obama website but i got it!!!


    bagster

  • ||

    "
    1. Setting aside the hard-core Clintonites who were drunk on desperation, did anyone really think this video existed?"

    No of course not. Those at No Quarter were ravenous though. This tape "would give Hillary the election"

    2. You know those people who think any attack on Hillary Clinton just has to be a sign of sexism? What do they think of attacks on Michelle Obama?"

    No Idea. No Quarter doesn't represent the majority of Clinton supporters thank god.


    The real reason is why do all the Hill Shrills "HAVE TO WRITE IN CAPS" .... my 50 year old mother (who is an Obama supporter, thank you very much) does that. Coincidence?? I think not.

  • ||

    Whoops "the real reason" should be "the real question" sorry folks

  • ||

    i believe that, regardless of whether this tape exists or not (it does) that michelle and barry have said and thought and discussed far worse amongst themselves and the myriad of anti-american psycho racists that they have associated with over the years....

    anybody that doesnt believe the same is beyond naive to the point of idiocy


    bagster

  • Ted||

    Oh Baggie,

    It's Hannity Time in New York!!! Come on Douchey. Call him up and tell him what a great 'merican he is. You both swoon over Reagan and W.

    What a turd!

  • ||

    hey teddy,

    when you go to sleep tonight, make sure you check under your bed real good....sean hannity might just be under there....


    BOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    hahha

    paranoid obsessive


    bagster

    p.s. obsess more on coors lite, nascar, and what was it? pick up trucks? no, SUVs thats right...lol....you are really weird, dude

    RACIST!!!!

    you try too hard to bust on white people stereotypes trying to prove you arent racist....but you aint cuttin it uber-fuerher....hey, how bout them jews? lol

  • ||

    Some people use way too many ellipses.

  • ||

    "Some people use way too many ellipses."



    astute political commentary!!!!!...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......................

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    bagster...................


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  • ||

    Ahem,
    excuse me for btting in here.
    I got the link to this blog from the Daily Telegraph newspaper in the UK. The original story seems like a classic smoke-and-mirrors rumour creation.
    But I don't understand some of the words used here.
    Is 'Whitey' supposed to be insulting? Doesn't seem too bad. How does it compare to 'Nigger'?
    And what does 'cracker' mean? Hootie?

  • ||

    "whitey" is similar to "nigger" in that the emotion used when uttering it is racial hatred.

    "cracker" is a term used to signify somebody from the state of georgia but is also commonly used by some blacks as a derogatory term for white people...

    hootie (darius rucker)is the lead singer for the band hootie and the blowfish. he is black but apparently not black enough for racists like this jew hating ted here....


    bagster

    helper

  • ||

    i judge people on their character

    Well, I'll give you props. You invented a pretty distinctive character.

  • ||

    Thanks Bagster. It's all depressingly clear now.

  • ||

    EuroJew, see Sly and the Family Stone's "Don't Call Me Nigger, Whitey". Bagster, may I also recommend the documentary "Afro-Punk"?

    But for the definitive (comedic) take on American race relations, see "ego trip's Big Book of Racism".

    Regards,
    and BTW "Hootieand the Blowfish" is a pretty good band (not quite heavy/electronic enough for my taste, though).

  • Ted||

    Bag o shit,

    Just thought I would let you know. Bush is going to Veto to new War funding Bill because it includes a raise for the troops and extends the college benefits. He feels it's too much.

    But at least your taxes are low.

    Heck of a job Baggie!

  • Ted||

    I would just like to be clear that it's totally unacceptable to use the n word. Under any circumstances. And to Euro Jew, please do not listen to anything that Bagster says. He's a loon. He voted for Bush twice and he doesn't like Obama's politics so he is obsessed with proving that the Obama's are either racists, elitists, terrorists, socialists or 46 year old radicals from the 1960's. Either way I don't hates the Jewish people, Black people or White people. Just crazy stupid people.

  • Osheana||

    I can not believe the people of the UNITED states of AMERICA !!!what is wrong that ON TAPE, EVERYONE saw and heard the soon 2 be (unfortunately)1st lady hussane Obama say: for the 1st time I

  • ||

    "Obama's are either racists, elitists, terrorists, socialists or 46 year old radicals from the 1960's."


    and the correct answer is.............


    all of the above



    bagster

  • ||

    "I'm now convinced"

    Wow, swift; what a genius. Larry Johnson is to this tape as the Raelians are to human clones.

  • ||

    Osheana | June 10, 2008, 8:09pm | #
    I can not believe the people of the UNITED states of AMERICA !!!what is wrong that ON TAPE, EVERYONE saw and heard the soon 2 be (unfortunately)1st lady hussane Obama say: for the 1st time I

    ---

    Typical Obama detractor, with an IQ in the noise.

  • ||

    Depending on the subject, I'd be happy to sit on a panel with Farrakhan, and I'm probably the whitest person in America.

    By the way, just a general question to white people on the board. If you have never said the word "nigger", have you ever thought it in your head? [Please read the Ginsburg interview posted the other day before replying.]


    Libertarians are an endless source of amusement. It's as if they have all quaffed the koolaid, but different quantities of different flavors. Some of them aren't racist. Some of them aren't global warming deniers. Some of them aren't imperialists. Some of them aren't so gawdawful stupid as to vote for McCain. Some of them don't have free market mythology shoved all the way up their asses. Some of them don't believe in sky fairies. Some of them wouldn't screw you for a nickel.

    Such an accomplished bunch.

  • ||

    Two peas in a pod....? WTF?? Sometimes it is depressing just how stupid people can be. But, I like this logic. Thus, McCain has a "womanizing" past just like Clinton and, uh, he divorced his wife (lacking true grit "American" Republican values). Oh, and I'll bet he's even rubbed one out from time to time, so maybe PeeWee Herman and him have a lot in common...... I hate that stupid people can blog too!

  • ||

    "Wow, swift; what a genius. Larry Johnson is to this tape as the Raelians are to human clones."


    hahahahahaha....the king of the nerds is here!!!


    bagster

    nobama 08

  • ||

    "Some of them don't have free market mythology shoved all the way up their asses."


    free market mythology? lol and you call OTHER people stupid...

    and what the fuck are sky faries you hippie freak?


    bagster

    just say no to communisism
    nobama 08

  • Ted||

    Bag O'DoughNUTs

    just say no to communisism?

    Please tell this to Cheney and bush. They have borrowed, um, like, um, um, a GAZILLION dollars from COMMUNIST China to fund the occupation is Iraq to get the 'turrurists' who blew up the World Trade Center.


    Oh Baggie, Too many coors man. Too many coors.

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