David Weigel | May 6, 2008
Drudge gives a traffic-driving link to Garance Franke-Ruta's short Washington Post story on the continuing Ron Paul campaign. The shocking headline: "Paul Campaign Never Ended, Spokesman Says."
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) told supporters in early March, through a Web video, that he knew he was no longer in the running for the presidency, and aides said his campaign would be "winding down." But it turns out Paul never stopped running for president.
"He put out a video in which he said victory in the conventional sense was not available to us, but there was still much the campaign could try to accomplish," Ron Paul 2008 spokesman Jesse Benton said yesterday. "People in the press reported that as him dropping out when he was not dropping out."
So... shouldn't the campaign spokesman have, uh, corrected them? Paul hinted that he was dropping out twice. On February 9 he announced he was refocusing on his House re-election bid, a move interpreted as a strategic retreat to prevent Chris Peden from making the presidential bid an issue. Because it happened so soon after Dennis Kucinich completely quit the presidential race to save his House seat, the national press assumed that Paul was out. We got press releases, on the presidential campaign press release list, about endorsements in the 14th District.
The primary came, Paul won, and he made another cryptic statement about "winding down" the race. Was he just stating the facts, admitting that he'd shrunken his staff? Yes, he was. But the campaign basically let press and reporters report that Paul was quitting. It's not like they were caught unaware by reporters not caring about the campaign. I remember the press conference after the Dec. 16 moneybomb, where less than 10 reporters crowded a room built for 50 at the National Press Club to listen to Paul's financial team. (The Iowa press conference with the candidate himself was just as thinly attended.) The campaign didn't exactly get caught unaware by national reporters not taking the time to follow up, one-by-one, on a lengthy and opaque video where the candidate mutters Maoisms like "the campaign for freedom will continue in this new phase."
This had an effect on support. I was startled by how many people at Paul's Pennsylvania rallies actually thought he'd left the race, even after speeches where he talked about staying in the race. I wasn't startled when the campaign's last finance report showed monthly fundraising drying up. Now, Paul's doing so well with under-the-radar campaign work that all of this stuff starts to take on an air of cunning: Maybe if Paul was in the news, generic Republican voters wouldn't be about to give primary victories to two candidates he's endorsed in North Carolina, Walter Jones and B.J. Lawson. (One Paul ally joked to me over the weekend that the 16 percent Pennsylvania vote suggests "that Ron's biggest mistake was not 'ending' the campaign in November.")
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"I was startled by how many people at Paul's Pennsylvania
rallies actually thought he'd left the race, even after speeches
where he talked about staying in the race."
Ron Paul's supporters aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Paul's biggest sin was his inept campaign. (Remember, his
campaign had nothing to do with the "moneybombs.")
Unfortunately, the newsletter brouhaha has allowed his more myopic
supporters to point fingers in another direction.
The newsletter brouhaha hardly made a ripple in the mainstream media. One respectful interview by Wolf Blitzer is all I saw.
Ron Paul is too insignificant to have many detractors. Any candidate with real presence would have been crucified by the newletter revelations.
I can say without doubt that the greasemonkey reason filter makes reading threads like this much nicer. Now, if people would stop quoting/referring to his posts, I wouldnt even know he exists.
Who cares about newsletters, I'm sure reason doesn't keep track
of all its articles. Otherwise they'd fix errors like: "I wasn't
started when the campaign's last finance report showed monthly
fundraising drying up."
Obama has a pastor and real estate issues, Hillary has a line of
bodies to account for with white water not to mention her husband's
sex scandal and incompetence to get Bin Laden, and McCain is
currently violating his own McCain-Fiengold act plus the Keating
Five scandal. Looks like another 4 years of terrible US
policies.
I can say without doubt that the greasemonkey reason filter
makes reading threads like this much nicer.
I finally decided to try it, but I couldn't get it to work. Is
there a syntax error here?
{"label":"Edward", "name":"Edward"}
"Who cares about newsletters, I'm sure reason doesn't keep track
of all its articles."
Yeah, I'm sure there are some reason articles pandering to Nazis
and racists lying around somewhere.
MP,
looks right to me.
Is anything working for you? Does it autofill your name correctly?
Or is the whole thing broken?
MP,
Here's my filter section for comparison; you might want to make
sure you have the right number of brackets and that they match up.
Also check commas -- there should be one after every entry
except for the last one.
var Filters = {
"Ignore": [
{"label":"dave w.", "address":["www.farces", "wannamo.com"],
"name":["Dave W.", "S. Franklin", "Sam Franklin"]},
{"label":"Frothy Anger", "name":["MK2", "Edward"]},
{"label":"Blogpimp", "name":"Guy Montag"},
{"label":"Neil thinks he's good at this", "name":"Neil",
"address":"freedomswatch.org"}
]
};
> where the candidate mutters Maoisms like "the campaign
for freedom will continue in this new phase."
Haha...that totally sounds like some propaganda phrase by a
dictator completely opposed to individual freedom.
OK, I deleted and re-loaded the script. Looks good now. Thanks all for your help.
No LoneWacko in yours? Wow.
I just haven't gotten around to adding him. Of course, now that I
have the file open anyway...
Why filter? Edward, LoneWacko, and Neil are plenty amusing and Dave has his own special charm.
"...the candidate mutters Maoisms like "the campaign for freedom
will continue in this new phase.""
Reason is trying to associate Ron Paul with Uncle Mao, and as we
all know, Uncle Mao was an evil communist dictator! GET IT? Ron
Paul is a communist dictator! Reason Magazine is the true standard
bearers for liberty! Not some guy who can rustle up a crowd at
college campuses which exceeds our number of subscribers! LISTEN TO
US! WE'RE REASON! DON'T CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION! PLEEEASE!
WAAAAAAA!
Oh good, y'all beat me to it... my filter wasn't working,
either.
Thanks for the help! Now "Nincompoop" is blessedly muted.
I'm not sure who ran the worse campaign -- Ron Paul, who transformed tens of millions of dollars into almost no votes (really -- how many did he actually convince? I suspect the people who voted for him heard about him through word of mouth, not the ad campaign) or Rudy Giuliani, who transformed front-runner status into a tie with Paul via the "late primary" strategy.
Egosumabbas,
Wow, I've never seem someone illustrate their opponent's point so
succinctly. And the timing, forget about it...
Ahh, Ron Paul. The gift that keeps on giving for Dave
Weigel.
Ron Paul never once said "I am ending my camapaing" nor did he even
say he was "suspending" his campaign. He told the truth. He had to
focus on his Congressional race in order to win it (It wouldn't
have looked to good to run for President and then lose his day job)
and he was winding down his presidential campaign. The staff was
cut, appearances were cut, the money wasn't coming the way it was
in November and McCain had the delegates, both pledged and bound to
him, to win the nomination. The campaign had to change its
direction and focus to what could be accomplished as to what
couldn't.
If you think he was winking or nodding at you or engaging in
subertfuge, that's your problem Dave, not Ron Paul's. He told the
truth as to what was going on and you and others chose to believe
what you wanted to believe in a conventional political sense. When
did RP ever do anything conventional?
So are you pissed because RP pulled a fast on you, make you think
it was all over when it really wasn't? None of this really amounts
to a hill of beans except in the wounded pride department, but I
suppose it does explain why you brought up the newsletters again.
Such references usually apppear when Paul's is having too much
success for your tastes.
The GOP is so infested with ex-democrats (neocons) only it's demise this fall will restore it back to its original platform. Juan McWar is the Bob Dole of 08 - wake up and do something about it while you still can. Join the r3VOLution before it's too late.
Paul's lousy campaign (and it was a lousy campaign) had little
to do with his lack of support (in terms of actual votes, not
amount of cash or number of fans on the intrawebs).
The problem was that die-hard Republicans (the type that vote in
primaries) are extremely pro-war, and they weren't going to vote
for an anti-war candidate.
we need someone like Paul. I'm sure you can come up with a logical fallacy to say NO HE'S EVIL when you know he's a new hope for libertarians. it is an ugly thing to be stuck trying to decided whether to stay registered a republican party reptile where a serious libertarian is coming in 2nd place or go back to a libertarian party that is considering nominating Bob Barr.
The March of the Rondroids. I love the guy who chides Reason as
not keeping track of all its articles - due to a typo in an on line
piece where the word "started" is inserted instead of "startled".
Somehow that is the same as running racist, bigoted, antigay
statements over a period of four years.
Paul won't wind down the race entirely, not as long as the
Rondroids keep sending their money to him. After all Paul has plans
for that money -- and a presidential campaign is not where he
intends to spend it.
I disagree, Geotpf. I believe that had he run anti-war commercials instead of "hey I'm just like the other guys" spots in New Hampshire, the results could have been significantly better.
Yeah, Reason has a lot of "racist trash" in its history. One that I still remember, just because it was so refreshing to read at the time, was an article on the militia movement, in the months after the OK City bombing, that actually said nice things about it. Jamie Kirchick would've pee'd himself if he'd read it.
Sean Scallon,
None of this really amounts to a hill of beans except in the
wounded pride department, but I suppose it does explain why you
brought up the newsletters again.
Can you quote the bit from the article above where Weigel "brought
up the newsletters again"? I'm not seeing it.
"Ron Paul's supporters aren't the sharpest knives in the
drawer."
I think they could easily beat an intelligence contest against
those who support a man who sings "Bomb Iran" to Barbara Ann.
"Wow, I've never seem someone illustrate their opponent's point
so succinctly. And the timing, forget about it..."
Eh, it was a crass attempt at humor, sorry Taktix(r).
I was just pointing out the fact that any article on Ron Paul at
Reason has to be snarky out of fear of losing their hipstertarian
street cred.
Epi, CN - You can click on a little monkey in the bottom right
of the browser to turn the filter on and off. Some threads are,
admittedly, impossible to understand otherwise because everyone's
responding to trolls.
And yes, sometimes it's fun to go slumming intellectually.
LOL!
Also (CN again) - I really agree about the Paul campaign &
those horrible ("I'm just like Tom Tancredo" commercials). I can't
imagine wtf they were thinking, which is why I get irritated with
the Paulistas. If you believe reason magazine was solely
responsible for his downfall, and that he would have become
President without reason's "treachery", you are an idiot.
Huh, I just read "The rEVOLution in North Carolina" and it was pleasantly devoid of snark. What's up with THAT?
At this point, I would be more impressed with Paul holding a press conference just so he could do the funky chicken. If you think about it in the context of the logical continuum of his campaign, it makes perfect sense.
@BakedPenguin: Yes, those commercials left my head scratching. Imagine if he had run an anti-federal reserve or anti-income tax commercial, it would have at least gotten the press buzzing. Or if they would have hired a bunch of actors dressed up as founding fathers to endorse him! The possibilities were endless really, but they blew it.
The press is paid and bought for by you know who, just like Hillary, McCain, and Obama. Ron Paul can never be bought, or swayed. He is a man of principle.
This thread gave me confirmation that the few posters I skim
over are at least ignored by other people too.
And here I was thinking I was the only one.
Tess,
"You know who."
Who? The Black Guelphs, the joos, the arms merchants, the house of
Windsor? Or all of the above?
(See, this is where a filter would be a buzz kill.)
Egosumabbas - or the War in Iraq, or the War on Drugs, or... yeah - the missed opportunities were legion.
The campaign exceeded all expectations. He was never gonna
win.
War is popular with Republicans. The war is tolerable to Democrats
because Muslims treat women badly, but would be more than tolerable
to them if it hadn't been started by W whom they would hate even if
he delivered the New Deal II to them tomorrow. The war issue has
been treated softly by the MSM. Remember A. Cooper stating "Now
that the surge is working" at a Dem debate and NOT having a single
candidate question the question? Being against the war only gets
you labeled as a kook and ignored, because that's the way the MSM
presents it.
And now it's the economy, which all three major candidates left
standing don't want to address honestly perhaps because they don't
understand it or because they realize that the publics eyes will
glaze over if they start really talking about the economy. Paul
gave his assessment of the problem,monetary policy, and he was
ignored because it made everyone's eyes glaze over. So the
candidates ignore these issues and speak vaguely and
grandiosely.
The MSM never gave him the time of day, and NAME RECOGNITION is
everything. Jesse Ventura, Governator, Hillary Clinton, for that
matter, anyone? The only way he could've done any better would have
been through a concerted effort by the MSM to talk about monetary
policy, imperialism, sovereignty issues with respect to free trade
and cheerlead them along as rational responses.
Paul's campaign was a success in identifying that there is a small
percentage of Americans 5% maybe that place high value on less
gov't. Add to that libertarians who couldn't overlook Paul's
'Constitutionalist' approach because they smelled anti-immigration
and anti-abortion (or whatever else, fair enough.)
Of course, if you weren't purposefully looking for news on his
campaign you wouldn't even know it existed.
As for the bigotry accusations; that only shows me like it did in
the Obama/Wright case that the MSM isn't really concerned about
policy, they're concerned with whom you ever have hung with and
what you were in the past.
If that's it I am voting Hillary, a Goldwater Republican disguised
as Chavez in a pantsuit!
Today will be remembered as a great day.
It will see the beginning of the end of Allahbama Hussein's
campaign, and will also see John McCain rack up 90%+ margins
without lifting a finger.
Me:(See, this is where a filter would be a buzz kill.)
But then Neil comes along and blows my point all to hell.
When The Trilateral Commission spends a great deal of their April meeting in Washington D.C. discussing Ron Paul and the number of people he has awakened to the money powers that control our country, it is clear that his candidacy has been wildly successful.
Another quote from Benton:
"The former Libertarian Party nominee has "no plans and no
intentions" to switch to any other party when the time comes to end
his bid, Benton said.
Sounds like he's spending campaign money just to pimp his book.
Reports now coming out that Ron Paul supporters in California
are actively working against libertarian Republican Tom McClintock
in his bid for Congress. They're supporting some other guy in the
primary cause he's "sufficiently anti-War."
Full story: www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com
"Ron Paul's supporters aren't the sharpest knives in the
drawer."
These comments make me laugh/sick. It's like an alcoholic saying
sobriety is for losers.
Ron Paul is the brightest candidate running for the presidency.
If you can't realize that people, then you're in the dark
yourself.
Ron Paul for President 2008. For freedom and prosperity.
Jake Boone:
Weigel made reference to the newsletters in a previous Ron Paul
post.
Eric,
Oh, is McClintock also running?
It's an empty seat. What are you getting hysterical about?
Before any of you Reasonites pass judgement over Ron Paul with
your all knowing wisdom I suggest you try reading his latest
bestseller and then get back to us. You won't find a more
intelligent or honest candidate running for office.
The Revolution: A Manifesto
BTW - This isn't some fluff piece from your Obambams, your Hitlerys
or your McInsanes that comes across as a personality sales pitch.
This is about the real issues facing this nation, the out of
control behemoth government and how the solution is returning to
Constitution.
His campaign organization HAS been terribly weak, and I think they kind of expected someone else to do all of the work for them. PLUS, his spokesman is marrying his granddaughter, so even if he sucks at his job (he does IMHO) ya can't exactly fire the guy. Ron has become pretty laid-back in recent years, and I don't fault him for it, but it could have easily been made up for with a dynamic spokesman with...say...a little wit, maybe?
"Maybe if Paul was in the news, generic Republican voters
wouldn't be about to give primary victories to two candidates he's
endorsed in North Carolina, Walter Jones and B.J. Lawson."
Huh? Like, if he was in the news, these guys would lose through
guilt by association?
Weigel, hasn't Raimondo kicked your butt enough yet?
Like, if he was in the news, these guys would lose through
guilt by association?
If their opponents could raise money off the "I'm trying to keep
another America-hating Ron Paul out of Congress" pitch, maybe.
Probably not.
Weigel, hasn't Raimondo kicked your butt enough yet?
This is the guy who claims that there was nothing actually wrong
with the newsletters, right? The position that not even Ron Paul
holds?
Only a fool wouldn't cash in on a book deal. It's made the Clintons into multi-millionaires, the Obamas into millionaires. Didn't McCain meet his wife at one of his book signings?
It's the message anyway.
Either you think he stands for white-supremacist theocratic
fascism
or you think he stands for humble foreign policy and sound
money
Take your pick. Eitherway he wasn't going to win it.
Of course, I forgot the get-rich quick scheme. That's why we need
to have the gov't protect us from shyster candidates like Paul.
Vote Nader 2008!
McClintock has zero competition in the primary. The guy he's
running against has a DWI on his record who is politically a
non-starter. I'm not worried about McClintock failing to win the
seat.
I don't understand why Dave hates Ron Paul so much.
I don't understand why Dave hates Ron Paul so
much.
I like Ron Paul. I voted for Ron Paul. I'm not attacking Paul when
I attack his bumbling campaign staff or the guys who gave him 15
years of headaches by writing bigoted crap under his name.
Weigel attacked Paul! Therefore anybody Weigel votes for must
suck!
Weigel voted for Paul!
Therefore...
"You know who" = spinsters!
Brilliant! Sitting around in their rocking chairs, knitting and
petting their cats. They've got the time and the motive. Why did I
not see it before?
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"Ron Paul's supporters aren't the sharpest knives in the
drawer." -Edward
"I think they could easily beat an intelligence contest against
those who support a man who sings 'Bomb Iran' to Barbara Ann." -
Mark
I am tickled by the idea that not only is "Barbara Ann" a golden
oldie, but so is "Bomb Iran." That #1 hit on the jingoist Top 40
from my early college years of the late 70s and early 80s is on top
again. It will soon challenge "The Twist" and "The Monster Mash" as
the all-time comeback king!
Frankly, I'm tired of history rhyming so much. We all have ipods
these days, don't we? Can't we just skip this selection and move on
to something better?
David Weigel, you forget to mention that Raimondo's defense of the newsletters is picking and choosing some of the soft balls in them. Notice Raimondo doesn't try to defend comments like Martin Luther King was "a gay pedophile" I would love to have Raimondo explain how that statement is mis-understood, taken out of context or exagerated by "cosmolibertarians"
The spokesman should have corrected them? Are you kidding? The
spokesman IMMEDIATELY corrected him and some tiny papers printed
that, and all the others kept repeating he had dropped out of the
race. You know us Ron Paul supporters. Right?
I ASSURE YOU that every on line mention that he dropped out, that
allowed comments, was corrected. Loudly and not always politely, to
be honest. We were furious that papers kept printing he had dropped
out.
First he said he was concentrating on his Congressional campaing
and 'scaling back' and they said he dropped out before one set of
primaries. After those, CNN and a couple other media outlets
clarified he hadn't 'completely' dropped out. Then right before the
March 4 primaries there was another wave of 'he dropped out' media,
to be corrected by a few after the March 4 primaries. After that
there was so much out there saying he dropped out that the small
papers just continued to reprint it, across the country.
Major media loudly proclaims he drops out, but does not loudly
correct themselves.
How can anyone blame the Ron Paul campaign? Do any of you have a
clue what the McCain-Feingold campaign laws did?
Those laws limit free speech because it limits the amount of money
people can donate. This leaves the MSM as the #1 place for
information on candidates. When the MSM shows the candidates 600
times for every 1 appearance you guy gets, then no amount of an ad
campaign is going to help you.
I didn't see a single ad for any of the candidates honestly. But I
seen them on the media EVERY night. The only way to see Ron Paul
was if it was announced he was going to be on, or watch it on
YouTube.
Is it any wonder why he "does so well on the internet" but no so
well in the media? Because it's biased crap.
Do you realize how much a single ad buy costs? And go ahead and try
to get a point across in 30 seconds. And compare that to news shows
who defend your positions back and forth for hours.
Not to mention the amount of inflation that has occured in the past
7 years. The price of gold/oil etc has basically tripled. So the
2400 when the law was passed isn't the same as the 2400 we were
able to donate. The max donation should have been over $6000 per
person if adjusted. This means it's also going to be worse in the
future.
These laws basically give all the power to the media, with little
chance for a campaign to overcome it.
And what do we have here? One of the guys who writes the laws wins
the next election?
I seen better acting on Gilligan's Island. I'm not buying it.
"I like Ron Paul. I voted for Ron Paul. I'm not attacking Paul
when I attack his bumbling campaign staff or the guys who gave him
15 years of headaches by writing bigoted crap under his
name."
Touche. Yes his campaign staff leaves something to be desired. I
gave him a bunch of money anyway. I still think it was worth
it.
Anyway I had you confused with Matt Welch.
Matt why do you hate Ron Paul?
How can anyone blame the Ron Paul campaign? Do any of you
have a clue what the McCain-Feingold campaign laws did?
Did they force the campaign to run ads on immigration, the same
issue 10 other candidates were pushing?
Did they force the campaign to direct supporters to wave signs on
corners instead of going door to door and phonebanking?
Did they force the campaign to lay down zero groundwork in Paul's
most promising state, New Hampshire, before a flood of volunteers
arrived in December to find no information collected on where to
find potential Paul voters?
Yes, Paul was starting off with two strikes against him. Yes, the
media gave him next to no coverage. Yes, he was discriminated
against at the debates. But that doesn't excuse the stupid mistakes
the campaign made.
It's like when the Dolphins play the Patriots at Foxboro -- sure,
the odds are against them winning from the outset, but that doesn't
excuse them committing 8 turnovers and racking up 500 yards in
penalties.
And before you accuse me of hating Ron Paul, note that I donated, phonebanked, and voted for him. That's why I'm so pissed about the paid professionals in national HQ being outperformed by fucking amateurs like myself.
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