David Weigel | February 13, 2008
After Barack Obama lost the New Hampshire primary, the punditocracy (including some pollsters) started speculating about the return of the "Wilder Effect," a.k.a. the "Bradley Effect." Named, respectively, for black gubernatorial candidates in Virginia and California, the Effects occur when white voters tell a pollster or exit pollster that they're voting for a black candidate, too embarrassed to admit that they voted for the white. In 1989, Douglas Wilder nearly lost his bid for governor of Virginia even though exit polls showed him winning by close to 10 points.
This year now-Richmond Mayor Wilder endorsed Barack Obama, and Obama won a historic landslide in the commonwealth. Final polls estimated that Obama would win by about 18 points. He won by 28 points. Exit polls estimated that 48 percent of white voters (a majority of men, a minority of women) went for Obama. The results basically prove that case. Look at the county-by-county map of Virginia, which shows a wave of Obama blueish-purple washing over the state and breaking in the southwest, at Bedford County. And look at some of the counties Obama won. Highland County, which borders West Virginia, is 99 percent white, and it went 54-45 for Obama. Floyd County, deep in Appalachia, is about 97 percent white, and it went 49-48 for Obama. Virginia has 11 congressional districts, all but two of them with white majorities, and Obama only lost one of them, the ultra-conservative 9th, which looks more like eastern Tennessee than the rest of Virginia.
I tried to tramp down dirt on the "Wilder Effect" last year, when it was pretty obvious that polls were accurate in six white-versus-black statewide races, and I was a little worried when the theory resurfaced this year. Could it surface again in a heated general election? Well, maybe. But not in Democratic primaries anymore. Barack Obama has read the rites and exorcised that ghost.
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David, remember this is a Democratic Primary. The Wilder Effect won't truly be dead until we see what the general election is like.
If you think about it, the Wilder Effect is something that would
happen in a transitional period: when there are enough people who
are prejucided enough to vote against a candidate for his race, but
when there is enough anti-racism in society to make people want to
conceal that prejudice.
I suspect there was a Wilder Effect at one point, but it's dead
now. At least, as you say, in Democratic primaries.
It seems to me this proves nothing. Considering how repulsive HRC is, it could just be that all of the people who told pollsters they were going to vote for Obama really wanted to vote for Obama. Maybe with a weaker black candidate or a stronger white one, you will still have some people saying they'll vote for the black guy so the pollster "doesn't think they're racist" while really favoring the white candidate. Mickey Kaus speculated that the reason Obama does better in caucuses is all the liberal white hipsters want to show their neighbors how "unracist" they are by publicly voting for Obama. In primaries, when the vote is private those same types vote for HRC. The reality is polling is always going to have a bullshit effect, even if its just from people like me who lie on general principle.
In a McCain vs Obama battle you might see an interesting twist. There might be many Republicans who will tell pollsters they will vote for (R)-McCain, but actually cast their secret ballot for Obama because they really don't like McCain, but just aren't willing to admit in public they will vote for a Democrat.
Well, those types in Virginia and Maryland ended up voting for Obama. The only group HRC won here was white women (barely) and Southwest Virginians.
Could this be the start of the Hillary Effect? Where more progressives/Democrats say they will vote for Hillary than actually will?
If the election pitted a viable white male candidate against Obama (which it obviously will not) I bet you would see some of that effect.
Mickey Kaus speculated that the reason Obama does better in
caucuses is all the liberal white hipsters want to show their
neighbors how "unracist" they are by publicly voting for Obama. In
primaries, when the vote is private those same types vote for
HRC.
Mickey Kaus, then, doesn't know what he's talking about. Hillary
has won among older voters, women, and blue-collar voters. She has
never won "white hipsters," or even come close to doing so.
Virginia's 9th District is so ultra-conservative that we've been sending a Democrat to Congress for 20 years. And Floyd County, while very white, is a strange mix of farmers, back to the land hippies, and professionals from Roanoke and Blacksburg.
ahem ... Obama won aN historic etc ... /grammar
nazi
Correct only if you pronounce "historic" like a Frenchman. In the
rest of the world, we like to keep our vowels vowels and our
consonants don't AC/DC.
Didn't Paul poll slightly better in some states than his final
vote results?
I guess there are people out there who pretend to like freedom but
go neocon all the way in the voting booth?
Unless you're a cockney tosser, it's a historic.
No, actually it's *an* historic. One of the many little oddities of
the English language.
BTW, how cool is it that Gene Wilder has a political phenomenon
named after him?
A note about the two example counties:
IIRC, Floyd county is known for its marijuana growing operations.
It and Highland both have significant ex-flower-child-commune types
who settled in the 60s and 70s. That explains much of their
deviation from the SE VA norm.
I note most of the counties known for their moonshine production
went for Hillary.
If the election pitted a viable white male candidate against
Obama (which it obviously will not) I bet you would see some of
that effect.
Why is it an outrage when whites vote in solidarity with their guy,
but not when blacks vote in solidarity with theirs?
And, speaking of the actual Wilder effect (black guy gets better
polling results than voting results), has anyone done a similar
analysis for other racial groups?
Why is it an outrage when whites vote in solidarity with
their guy, but not when blacks vote in solidarity with
theirs?
I consider *both* lamentable. I don't like the fact that Obama
sweeps black urban areas any more than Clinton rules in the
sticks.
PS. It's "a" historical. Look it up in an American dictionary.
Why is it an outrage when whites vote in solidarity with
their guy, but not when blacks vote in solidarity with
theirs?
Because voting to maintain a system of racial privilege is worse
than voting to demolish one. On a symbolic level, that is what
people voting for Obama because he's the black guy are doing -
voting to change the unbroken string of 43 white Christian men in
the presidency.
I'd find it lamentable if people kept doinig this after the first
couple of black presidents, but voting for the First Black
President as a tie-breaker isn't so bad.
It's an herb because the "h" in herb is silent. The "h" in historic isn't (in American English).
"Yes, it is *an* historic, just like it is *an* herb."
The "h" is silent in "herb" and therefore requires an "an" but the
"h" in "historic" is not silent and therefore requires an "h" in
front of.
Because voting to maintain a system of racial privilege is
worse than voting to demolish one.
What system of racial privilege? We've had blacks in every office
except President and Vice President.
I'd find it lamentable if people kept doinig this after the
first couple of black presidents, but voting for the First Black
President as a tie-breaker isn't so bad.
Except we aren't talking about racial bloc voting just for Obama.
We're talking about racial bloc voting for nearly every non-insane
black candidate that comes along (Keyes being the exception that
proves the rule), and some of the insane ones (Cynthia McKinney,
anyone?). I don't think that's healthy, and I think that it
reinforces and perpetuates racial division.
"Didn't Paul poll slightly better in some states than his final
vote results?"
"I guess there are people out there who pretend to like freedom but
go neocon all the way in the voting booth?"
Or it could be that exit polls aren't that accurate.
What system of racial privilege? We've had blacks in every
office except President and Vice President.
Well, I would say such people are looking at the offices of
President and Vice President. They are rather important, you
know.
I don't think that's healthy, and I think that it reinforces
and perpetuates racial division. I think racial division is
reinforced and perpetrated by actual racial division, and feelings
are a consequence of that. Telling people not to think about the
elephant in the room isn't going to remove the beast; removing the
elephant, on the other hand, will get people to stop thinking about
it.
R C, did you hear anybody getting excited about Rudy Guiliani
being the Second Catholic President? Or about Catholics voting as a
bloc for him? Or for any non-insane Catholic candidate?
They used to. They sure did.
But now they don't. Getting black people into this or that position
will cease to be a big deal in people's minds when getting black
people into such positions actually is not a big deal.
And I will note that there was no effort made to wave fingers under the noses of Catholics and tell them "Shame on you for voting for the Catholic!" The change in opinions happened all by itself, once the objective reality a Catholic president being elected came to pass.
Perhaps it's just karma, but I found it deliciously ironic that a black candidate proved far more acceptable than a Mormon candidate in light of his church's long history of official racism.
I think Obama may be benefiting from the Katie Couric effect. She wasn't afraid to ask Hillary those hard-hitting questions we've all been wondering about, like whether she pops vitamins or not, and got Hillary to admit that she makes sure to scrub her hands with Purell after any contact with the citizenry.
Named, respectively, for black gubernatorial candidates in
Virginia and California, the Effects occur when white voters tell a
pollster or exit pollster that they're voting for a black
candidate, too embarrassed to admit that they voted for the
white.
What does it say about the status quo of collective white-guilt
when "white voters are too embarassed to admit they are voting for
a white"? This observation about the shame of whites is written as
if it is just a routine state of the collective American
mind.
What would be the reaction from readers and journalists if
pollsters determined that "white voters were too ashamed to admit
they voted for a black"?
If you wonder how a patently racist policy such as affirmative
action has become entrenched you need look no further than the
concept of "the Wilder effect". To add insult to irony, the Wilder
effect does not even exist as proved by BO's primary voting
results.
As a commenter above notes, the Ninth District is represented by
a Democrat (one of just two white Democrats in the Virginia
delegation), and a fairly liberal one at that.
"An historic" and "a historic" are both acceptable. "An" can
precede a word beginning with "h" if the first syllable was
unstressed, although this practice is fading. In past centuries,
"an" could precede any "h" word. Eighteenth-century people said
things like "an hero." That has completely faded from standard
usage.
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