David Weigel | August 21, 2007
I'm going to be honest with you—I don't know a lot about Cuba's healthcare system. Is it a government-run system?
- former Sen. John Edwards
Backstory
here. Edwards was asked in Oskaloosa, Iowa if the U.S. should
adopt a Cuba-style health care system and that was his answer. ABC
has a gotcha of sorts, noting that he'd previously told a
frog-throated supporter that he'd watched Sicko. But he
added that he didn't get "all the way to the end," and the end of
the movie is the Cuban part. And really, how are you supposed to
know that Cuba has state-run services until you've seen
Sicko?
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These are the sophisticated moral philosophers that want to rule over 300 million people. Clearly, he was being facetious, right?
Thanks for playing, Mr. Edwards. Johnny, tell him about his
parting gifts.
"It's gonna be a coupon good for 10% off a haircut. At only $360,
it's a real bargain!"
I made a mistake a mistake, because I was distracted, thinking about the death of my son. And my momma. Did I ever tell you about how mah momma died...?
Give it a rest, people. I'm running for President of America, not trying to replace Pat Sajack on Jeopardy!
Cuba doesn't have a government run system. It's a system run by human beings who work for the government. Silly people.
Bill Richardson needs to put an ad titled "Lightweight" on the
air tomorrow, leading off with this footage.
Finish off this pathetic campaign once and for all.
You just don't have the time to learn about the fancy practices of people all the way across the sea when you're working in a mill, I suppose.
Edwards had an obvious brain fart, and of course the media is
all over it. Of course he knows that Cuba has a government-run
health care system.
I find it ironic that Americans complain so much about politicians
being scripted, pre-packaged repeaters of sound bites and talking
points, but when one of them dares to go off script and says
something dumb, the public jumps all over it - as if none of us
haven't said dumb things when speaking off-the-cuff.
Then we wonder why politicans would rather stick with cliches and
empty rhectoric.
Dan, that wasn't a Freudian slip or the verbal equivalent of a typo. That was unmitigated dumbassery.
Dan, nice try at a troll, but this one's indefensible. If he was
generally considered a smart guy maybe he could recover from this*,
but he was already considered a lightweight. Now he's a fucking
moron.
* I'm just kidding. Who could recover from this?
"Then we wonder why politicans would rather stick with
cliches and empty rhectoric."
Yer got-dam right, boy, we don want no thinkin' fellers!
This may be the funniest quote from a politician in the history of the entire universe.
Dan, that wasn't a Freudian slip or the verbal equivalent of
a typo. That was unmitigated dumbassery.
Really? You seriously believe that John Edwards is not aware that
Cuba is a communist country?
I mean, we've gotten plenty of laughs over the years at George W.
Bush's verbal snafus but I don't think he really believes that
people want to put food on their families.
You seriously believe that John Edwards is not aware that
Cuba is a communist country?
In light of this quote, and with no additional evidence
forthcoming, I can easily picture a situation where Edwards knows
that "CubaisaCommunistcountry" without having the slightest idea
what that actually means.
Oh and "Sartre" has something to do with "existentialism." But
don't ask for any more details than that.
Ah guess ah never learned about Cuba in my school...you know, the one next to the coalmine.
Funny stuff, but Edwards might have been asking if it was the government run aspect of Cuba's system (rather than the public health data or education process) that the questioner was interested in. I mean, maybe.
The whole issue is certainly entertaining! I'd rather read about
this than about HillaryDuff or something.
But, even more, I'd rather the MSM actually did some real reporting
and asked Edwards about his own policies. And, not just asked him
to state what they are, but brought in experts to ask him about
flaws in his stated positions.
Would that be too much to ask for instead of crap like this?
TLB
You know what's really really cool about the internets? You can
read, from the comfort of your own home, all about: 1) Edwards's
stupidity AND 2) HillaryDuff AND 3) Edwards's policies AND 4)
Expert opinions about said policies.
It's free too!
So John, have you given any thought about what you'd like to do after public service?
Cuba's ruled by a dictator, Fulgencio Batista, right? How likely is it that country ruled by a right-wing dictator would have a government-run health system?
Gerald Ford's comment about Poland not being under Soviet influence was a bit funnier. After all, Ford was actually President at the time he said it.
I'm going to be honest with you-I don't know a lot about
Cuba's healthcare system.
There, fixed that up for you. You might consider making this your
boilerplate on all issues for the rest of the campaign. Which
should be wrapping up in 5... 4...
You mean a major candidate for President of the United States
knows nothing of how our glorious People's Revolutionary Government
works??
I guess I have to execute my PR team again and get a new one.
I predict, err, Ah predict nothing will come of this. It's like losing a game early in college football. You still have a shot as long as you don't lose again (not that I thought Edwards had much of a chance to begin with). He'll rebound at the next debate - say something like it doesn't matter what Cuba has, but we need universal health care here in these United States, etc. ad naseum.
ad nauseum
yeah, I spelt it wrong, but I never did take no latin in high
school
This is why politicians aren't honest -- they don't want us to
know they're dumbass twits.
The Democratic Dan Quayle.
OTOH, he couldn't have given a more reassuring "No" to the question of "whether the United States should follow the Cuban healthcare model."
Bill Richardson needs to put an ad titled "Lightweight" on
the air tomorrow, leading off with this footage.
I think Richardson needs to conserve his cash, and let the
frontrunners savage Edwards. Though, it might be a good contrast to
use this in a piece where Richardson says something thoughtful,
then shows the Edwards clip -- kinda like a pretty women going out
for a night on the town with an ugly friend, so by contrast the
good-looking one appears even more beautiful.
to me this is the same as a coffee shop liberal who wears a Che Guavera t-shirt but has no idea who the guy was.
this is bad but it's not campaign destroying. it will blow over. only hardcore politics junkies that post on sites like this and write blogs will care for about 48 hours, then they will find something else to blow out of proportion.
I eagerly await Edward's explanation that we need socialized medicine, and that we should also have the government run it.
stephen the goldburger,
Events like this blow over when they don't feed into some larger
narrative.
What I'm saying is, Bill Richardson can fit this into his
narrative.
jh,
I hear you, but I don't think either of the biggies is going to do
the job. Obama doesn't want to talk about somebody being a
lightweight, and Clinton is so far ahead that she had nothing to
gain by giving a competitor a forum to go one-on-one with her.
Dear gods. The Republicans at least have the excuse that they
don't care whether people live or die. To have a front-running
Democratic candidate espouse such ignorance is inexecusable.
Ralph Nader, where are you when we need you?
When a politician prefaces a statement with I'm going to be
honest with you, that means that what follows is a lie.
So of course he knows about Cuba. He was just blowing off a
question he found annoying. There were no TV cameras, right?
Hypothetically, if I ever invited Edwards over to watch The
Hunt for Red October, I can imagine him asking me all kinds of
stupid questions:
"Does the Soviet submarine have anything to do with the
government?"
"Is Sean Connery a good guy or bad guy for killing the political
officer?"
"When the bad guy from Ferris Bueller talks about helping
his dad build a bomb shelter many years ago, what's he talking
about?"
Pinette | August 21, 2007, 12:42pm | #
to me this is the same as a coffee shop liberal who wears a Che
Guavera t-shirt but has no idea who the guy was.
And clearly you DO know who "Che Guavera" was.
Eric S. says You can read, from the comfort of your own
home, all about: 1) Edwards's stupidity AND 2) HillaryDuff AND 3)
Edwards's policies AND 4) Expert opinions about said
policies.
That's certainly cute. Now, direct me to an instance of someone in
the MSM actually "CrossExamining" Edwards about his policies.
That's the point I was trying to make, perhaps you should read it
again.
Edwards had an obvious brain fart, and of course the media
is all over it. Of course he knows that Cuba has a government-run
health care system.
I find it ironic that Americans complain so much about politicians
being scripted, pre-packaged repeaters of sound bites and talking
points, but when one of them dares to go off script and says
something dumb, the public jumps all over it - as if none of us
haven't said dumb things when speaking off-the-cuff.
Then we wonder why politicans would rather stick with cliches and
empty rhectoric.
So I take it you gave Jerry Ford a pass for that lame statement
about Poland not being under Soviet domination, and lamented the
way the Carter campaign exploited it?
I am happy to say i knew this guy was stupid in 2004....now i am just like everyone else.
Beyond knowing that Cuba's is a government run system, what do
any of us know about it?
This really isn't that big of a deal. Cuba's healthcare policy is,
or should be, of exactly no interest to an American politician or
an American voter.
As for him being objectively "stupid", that's just silliness.
If this quote was shown in a television ad without specific commentary how many of Edwards' supporters would know that it's embarrassing?
This really isn't that big of a deal. Cuba's healthcare
policy is, or should be, of exactly no interest to an American
politician or an American voter.
Right, Matt. Who cares about the useful knowledge to be gained from
studying health care around the world? There aren't any bad
consequences of failing to study history, are there?
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