David Weigel | August 8, 2007
This Wall Street Journal column by Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa ("the highest-ranking intelligence official ever to have defected from the Soviet bloc") sort of landed with a thud, which is too bad, because it includes wisdom like this:
For once, the communists got it right. It is America's leader that counts.
Yes, it's about how Americans need to show more deference to the man who leads one-third of the government. In the Cold War, see, Communists spread nasty rumors and unpleasant historical tales about the president in order to weaken America—just like many Americans say nasty things about George Bush! For example, in 2004 (Pacepa provides no examples fresher than three years old) "visitors to the national chairman of the Democratic Party had to step across a doormat depicting the American president surrounded by the words, 'Give Bush the Boot.'" Really, it's a miracle we've survived this long.
Note also that Pacepa credits Jimmy Carter's image "as a bumbling peanut farmer" to the well-oiled Communist propaganda machine.
It's all just incredibly weird and wrongheaded. Given that we switched up Leaders every few years did anti-presidential propaganda really play a bigger role than anti-American propaganda, anti-American-militarism propaganda, and so on? Pacepa lumps in "lies" about Vietnam with his presidential examples, possibly because his presidential cultishness is too weak to sustain the whole column.
My favorite writer on the cult of the presidency is Gene Healy, although he was never in the KGB so I don't know if we can take his opinions seriously.
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Note also that Pacepa credits Jimmy Carter's image "as a
bumbling peanut farmer" to the well-oiled Communist propaganda
machine.
This could be true, but I give more weight to the fact that Carter
actually was a bumbling peanut farmer.
Presidents often don't even accord one another such
deference:
John Quincy Adams on Andrew Jackson: "A barbarian who cannot write
a sentence of grammar and can hardly spell his own name."
Teddy Roosevelt on Woodrow Wilson: "infernal skunk in the White
House."
Calvin Coolidge on Herbert Hoover: "That man has offered me
unsolicited advice for six years, all of it bad."
Truman called Nixon "a shifty-eyed [expletive] liar."
John Quincy Adams on Andrew Jackson: "A barbarian who cannot write
a sentence of grammar and can hardly spell his own
name."
That one was sort of true.
Truman called Nixon "a shifty-eyed [expletive]
liar."
That one was most definitely true!
It's good to see the Wall Street Journal, or any Bush-supporting media organ for that matter, coming right out and admit that its view of domestic dissent and subordination to authority is roughly equivalent to that of someone who grew up under communism and held a senior position in the KGB.
Should it really be necessary here to point out that the
Communists fucking lost?
If the authoritarianism lurking in the heart of every Bush
supporter was really the best way to mobilize a society for
conflict, they would have won.
Your brilliant propaganda got you a worthless pension and ignominy
and humiliation for all time, General.
And T.R. was certainly right about Wilson. Old Woodrow was a disaster for America. He single handedly set race relations back 50 years, and enacted some of the most draconian limits on civil liberties during WW1. Wilson actually DID what Bush gets blamed for.
Wilson also got us involved in the most stupid, pointless war in recent human memory for no good reason.
I've suspected for a while that the neocons are actually a soviet sleeper cell left over from the 70s.
Don't forget that his stupid entry into the war allowed the Allies to decisively defeat the Germans, which led to the Treaty of Versailles, which led to Hitler's rise, &c.
During the Vietnam War we spread vitriolic stories around
the world, pretending that America's presidents sent Genghis
Khan-style barbarian soldiers to Vietnam who raped at random, taped
electrical wires to human genitals, cut off limbs, blew up bodies
and razed entire villages.
Hey, they stole this from John Kerry.
Ex(?)-KGB guy: "At the 2004 Democratic National Convention, for
example, Bush critics continued our mud-slinging at America's
commander in chief. . . ."
Did I miss the Generalissimo clause in the constitution
somewhere?
America's commander-in-chief?
Military C-in-C, sure. But America's commander in
chief?
That phrase alone says it all.
(Nice martial way to marshal Marshall Stalin, tovarische.)
Truman called Nixon "a shifty-eyed [expletive]
liar."
You can say "fucking" here.
Wilson also got us involved in the most stupid, pointless war
in recent human memory for no good reason.
Come on, Cesar, the U.S. had a compelling national interest in
avenging Archduke Ferdinand. [/sarcasm]
The United States had a compelling interest in not seeing a half dozen of our democratic allies subsumed into the empire of a monarchist empire.
The United States had a compelling interest in not seeing a
half dozen of our democratic allies subsumed into the empire of a
monarchist empire.
1. Bullshit we did.
2. They weren't about to lose to the Hun anyway.
While they're asking ex-KGB officials about stuff like this, why not hit up Putin for his opinion? It'd be of similar value.
Hell, the British and French weren't even our allies, were they? Tell me the treaty of alliance that we had with them that I'm unaware of.
Warty--
In fact, the United States had real problems with the British right
up until 1914. We were actually closer to Germany pre-WWI, TR was a
friend of the Kaiser.
Quit shilling for Wilson, joe!
First, the US had no alliances before it entered the war, and the
Allied countries weren't considered our permanent allies. Even
during the war, the US made sure it was legally considered an
associate of the allies rather than part of an official
alliance.
Also, we decided to side with two quasi-democratic empires and one
very authoritation empire against another
quasi-democratic/authoritarian empire and a pretty authoritarian
empire to protect the loans we'd made to the former. Come on,
you're supposed to jump right to this semi-conspiratorial
conclusions, remember? Anyway, there was no threat of German
occupying all of France and especially not Britain. Germany wanted
Belgium, some Russian territory, colonial concessions and some
respect it felt it lacked. Name six "democratic" countries that it
even could have conceivably subsumed. I doubt there were even that
many in Europe at the time (fine fine, maybe JUST that many, but
most weren't in the war).
The British propaganda about Huns impaling babies on their
pickelhauben definitely helped make the case to the US public too,
just as the baby-incubator story in Kuwait helped ready us to be
active in Gulf War I.
Firstly, his name is spelled Ion, not Ian. It's the Romanian
equivalent of John.
Secondly, Pacepa doesn't seem to really have let go of the Cold
War. His books on Ceausescu-era Romanian politics are excellent --
just about the best accounts of Ceausescu and Romania's secret
intelligence projects that exist today -- but his reference frame
for US politics is a bit outmoded. Has he managed to stay 20 years
in the past, but forget all about Ceausescu's absurd cult of
personality?
The British propaganda about Huns impaling babies on their
pickelhauben definitely helped make the case to the US public too,
just as the baby-incubator story in Kuwait helped ready us to be
active in Gulf War I.
Don't forget the public relations coup that the Brits scored when
the Krauts sank Lusitania. Which, it turns out, was an
entirely legitimate target because of the shit-ton of ammunition
that they squirreled aboard.
Weren't the Kaiser and TR actually cousins?
I think you are thinking of the Tsar and the Kaiser.
I think Willy and Nicky were only cousins by marriage (could be
wrong), and undoubtedly they were directly related as well (though
more distantly), since that's how they rolled back then. Wilhelm II
and George V were first cousins though, both grandsons of Victoria
(and despite his lack of interview skills and jealousy, I believe
the Kaiser was a bit of an anglophile).
Even though they weren't directly related, the resemblance between
George V and Nicholai II is uncanny.
1. You could just as well argue that America wasn't democratic
because of the denial of voting rights to women and black people.
While those are certainly black marks, it doesn't change the
inherent nature of the governments, which were chosen through
popular election. Democracy grows; it's its inherent nature.
2. We didn't enter the war "before the war." We entered a few years
into the war, by which time the alliance among Western democracies
was indeed real.
3. Hindsight is 20/20. There was no way to know at the time that
the German/Austrian alliance was going to lose.
Some James,
Quit attributing the mutterings of the liberal in your head to me.
I hold no truck with Wilson, and am not given to believing in
conspiracies of international capital. If you'd like to know my
beliefs, let me tell you what they are.
Looking at the Bush presidency, looking at Bush's close
friendship and support of Putin as he re-sovietizes Russia, looking
at the WSJ's support of soviet philosophy, as well as the
Republicans very statist views...
I wonder...sure communism "lost" but did the soviets? Sure
communism lost...but statism on the levels that Soviet Russia, and
now Greater Russia, as well as China exhibited/exhibit seem to have
won here in America.
Who one the cold war? The statists. Long live the motherland
(homeland, fatherland...etc)
You might think me a liberal troll (snicker), but watch, Hillary
will capitalize on the executive authority that Bush pioneered to
such "success" to insure a future where the US resembles China more
than its own past.
We entered a few years into the war, by which time the
alliance among Western democracies was indeed real.
What exactly are you talking about here? Even during the war, the
US was never a formal member of the Allies.
joe, Germany was hardly an absolute Monarchy in 1914. Its lower
house of its legislature was elected by universal male suffrage,
its upper house was appointed by the state governments--exactly
like our Senate at the time.
Though the Kaiser had many powers, the legislature could (and often
did) cause him many headaches and successfully oppose some of his
policies.
Huh, guess I misremembered. I knew about all of the relations in
Europe (he being Victoria's grandson)--not sure how I got the idea
about TR.
WWI was a mess for all concerned. I think our direct involvement
was likely a mistake, even at the time, but it's impossible to know
what would've happened if we hadn't entered the war. Of course,
it's entirely possible that none of the totalitarian regimes
would've risen--including the U.S.S.R.--if we hadn't joined in.
Massively bad unintended consequences, if true.
joe,
I wasn't trying to criticize you for "typical liberal" thinkings. I
was poking fun a bit, but I think there is a grain of truth in
"Merchants of Death" explanation for the US entry into the war as
well. Not THAT simplistic, but general economic security reasons.
Though, like PL I think overall the US involvement was a mistake
probably, and with hindsight we can see that the war and the
aftermath led to much greater carnage later.
I'm seconding the point, which I also made earlier, that the US
never officially allied with the allies in WWI. Also, by your
definitions, Wilhelmine Germany was about as democratic as the
UK.
I've always suspected that that swamp rabbit that attacked
President Carter was a Commie operative.
Just look at its beady little collectivist eyes.
Warty,
I'm not talking about formal alliances, but about overall
orientation in the world. The events of World War 1 created the
enduring confederation of the western democracies through events on
the ground, before we formalized that rough confederationw ith
treaties.
Cesar, Some James,
I realize that Germany was not an absolute monarchy, but it wasn't
like Britain, either.
The Kaiser actually was the inhereted, "divine right" chief
executive and Commander in Chief. Not to mention the domination of
German politics - at least in the spheres of foreign and military
policy - by the virtually fuedalist Prussian military elite. That
was a pathological government, qualitatively different from the
maturing democracies of the west.
Just to be clear, I'm not venturing an opinion on whether it
actually was wise for us to enter the war, or whether the outcomes
produced by our entry were positive. I'm just saying, there were
solid and defensible, even in hindsight, reasons for our entry.
In the latest Time/Zogby poll, Woodrow Wilson has a higher approval rating than Ron Paul. Case closed.
In the latest Time/Zogby poll, Woodrow Wilson has a higher
approval rating than Ron Paul. Case closed.
I attribute this to the generally low quality of High School
history teachers, and the whitewashing of our historical
figures
The British, French, German, Austro-Hungarian, and Russian Empires were all approximate moral equivalents in 1914. The tragedy is that the U.S. ever felt compelled to send our youths into the meatgrinder alongside them.
Fuck you commies! You can't call our president a braindead
inbred freak! Only we can call him a braindead inbred
freak.
Which he so clearly is.
The leader is good
The leader is great
We surrender our will
As of this date
or,
Na na na na na na na na leader!
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