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"What we really want to talk about today — it's kind of important to some people — it's haircuts of the 1970s."
This is, without question, the greatest scandal/hoax of the decade.
Two men accusing of placing electronic advertising devices around the city in a publicity stunt that stirred fears of terrorism and shut down parts of the city were released from jail Thursday, apparently amused with the prank.
Peter Berdovsky, 27, and Sean Stevens, 28, were released on $2,500 cash bond after each pleaded not guilty to placing a hoax device and disorderly conduct for a device found Wednesday at a subway station. They waved and smiled as they greeted people in court.
Outside, they met waiting reporters and television cameras and launched into an unusual discussion of hair styles of the 1970s.
"What we really want to talk about today -- it's kind of important to some people -- it's haircuts of the 1970s," Berdovsky said.
I just watched the press conference on Fox - it's a complete hacking and demolition of the entire concept of a press conference. [UPDATE: Video is here.] In response to a question on what would happen if they were sent to prison, Stevens said "Whatever happens, I feel like my hair is safe right now." And the assorted reporters got pissier and nastier in response to the prankers who refused to stop joking.
Brian Doherty blogged Mooninitegate yesterday.
UPDATE: Here's the video on Youtube.
|2.1.07 @ 1:17PM|#
Bravo. Good for them for not giving into this high-powered,
media driven lynching: all of it to cover up the fact that Boston's
authorities screwed up, the media overreacted, and no one is
capable of just going "oops" and laughing it off.
False alarms for stupid shit is just a fact of life in a time of
high security.
Warren|2.1.07 @ 1:19PM|#
Awesome! Totally awesome.
The media is such a pack of trained seals. Throw em a fish and
watch them slap their flippers together. I don't know why we don't
see more of this kind of thing.
|2.1.07 @ 1:23PM|#
so wait...do these guys work for adult swim or not?
I mean that is a light bright picture of a cartoon character in
Aqua Team Hunger Force
|2.1.07 @ 1:24PM|#
I've noticed that media people tend to get really upset when
someone refuses to play according to the script. It wrong-foots
them. Since media people depend on their image and reputation for
their income, they tend to react badly when they suspect that they
are being made to look silly.
The news media are playing along with the government line that this
is a really big deal, and these guys are treating it as being
frivolous. These guys are right, but they are going to be turned
into hamburger by the government.
In the defense of the city officials, Turner's people trespassed on
their property and vandalized it, sort of.
In placing the signs where motorists could see them, the installers
did not ask the owners of ther properties for permission. In most
cases, the property was so-called "public" property, which is
property that is, in effect, owned by the city or the state
governments.
Of course, this is wrong. It's morally akin to painting an ad for
my new company on the wall of your house. Granted, the signs are
easy to take down and are pretty mild as far as trespassing goes,
but they were a violation of the property rights of the people who
owned the things the signs were placed on.
With that being said, the town, state and federal government
responses were bizarre, and I don't think Turner broadcasting
should bear the costs of the bizarre, idiotic response.
1) They were obviously not bombs. Bombers tend to not call
attention to their devices. Only in the movies do they bleep or
flash blinking lights.
2) Once the first device was analysed, it should have been clear
that these were not, in fact, bombs.
So, let's go back to my house-painting example. Actually, that
example won't work here. Let us say that I affixed a magnetic
placard on your car that advertised my business and didn't get your
permission. Should I be forced to replace your entire car door
because you freaked out, ripped it off of its hinges and threw it
into a river?
PS. before people start excortiating me about 9/11 and IED's and
the like, I would like to point out that I spent my early
child-hood living in Turkey and lost a playmate to a bomb. Hell,
the Grey Wolves even tried to kill my father once (I have noticed
that Turkish assassins tend to Clouseau like incompetence). I know
what real terrorism is, and glo-brite lights ain't it.
|2.1.07 @ 1:29PM|#
"so wait...do these guys work for adult swim or
not?"
They were hired by Interference, Inc., the marketing firm that was
hired to promo ATHF.
|2.1.07 @ 1:29PM|#
Should I be forced to replace your entire car door because
you freaked out, ripped it off of its hinges and threw it into a
river?
You're too kind to them. It's more like they freaked out and threw
a grenade in the gas tank.
|2.1.07 @ 1:32PM|#
I know this happened in MA, but is there any way that Delmar Burridge could report these guys to the police? i feel like his involvement could make this the funniest thing that has ever happened in New England.
|2.1.07 @ 1:33PM|#
so wait...do these guys work for adult swim or
not?
Not exactly. They're artists hired through a third party firm to do
advertising for the upcoming ATHF moviefilm.
It's amazing that these ads were placed in 10 cities and I think
many were up for quite some time before one dude from Boston
noticed and called the authorities.
tarran, you have a point and they may well face fines/time for
defacing public property or some such. The problem is that they're
being accused of perpetrating a terrorism hoax, which is absurd and
should never stick.
The city of Boston was right to investigate a suspicious device,
but they totally overreacted and are trying to save face by
building up these guys to be something they're obviously not.
Of course, Adult Swim showed an apology for the misunderstanding
last night, and these two guys would be much better served if they
just followed suit. However, it is hilarious to watch them taunt
the media so.
Christopher Monnier|2.1.07 @ 1:36PM|#
> is there any way that Delmar Burridge could report these
guys to the police?
Awesome...
|2.1.07 @ 1:39PM|#
Assistant Attorney General John Grossman called the light
boards "bomblike" devices and said that if they had been explosive
they could have damaged transportation infrastructure in the
city.
The Atty. General also noted that "If my aunt had balls, she'd be
my uncle."
|2.1.07 @ 1:40PM|#
"Is video of the press conference on youtube?"
Not that I've seen, but it is on the website for Fox News.
|2.1.07 @ 1:42PM|#
The video seems to have disappeared from Fox's website. In fact, none of the media sites seem to be carrying it.
|2.1.07 @ 1:42PM|#
"tarran, you have a point and they may well face fines/time for
defacing public property or some such"
As I understand it, half the point of these things was that they
were magnetic: in short, they caused no permanent damage to
anything... until the police broke out their own supply of bombs
and explosives and then detonated some. :)
dhex|2.1.07 @ 1:43PM|#
i'm watching the video now. the fury of reporters is absolutely
awesome.
these guys are my heroes and i don't think athf is even remotely
funny.
Bhh|2.1.07 @ 1:45PM|#
Like all the big media companies, Fox seems to have some sort of proprietary video player that doesn't work. At least it didn't for me.
|2.1.07 @ 1:46PM|#
I love the way Fox is promoting the video of them hanging the
signs up:
"Shocking Video of Suspect Planting Devices"
Egon|2.1.07 @ 1:47PM|#
Brutal. And by brutal I mean awesome. I'd hire those guys in a second if I needed some truly "disruptive" advertising (suck on that, Y&R!).
|2.1.07 @ 1:48PM|#
These guys deserve every cent we can muster to pay their fines
and for their legal defense. This logo seems to be spreading:
http://www.xoverboard.com/blogarchive/week_2007_01_28.html#002026
|2.1.07 @ 1:55PM|#
I love the A.G.'s claim that these guys intended to cause fear
and panic.
I don't think the judge bought it (note the $2,500 bail).
Eventually, though, the judge will probably remember who cuts his
pay-check, and these tow funny guys will be made an example of.
|2.1.07 @ 1:59PM|#
Well, I now know to tell my loyal jihadis to disguise their bombs as simplistic electronic signs as if they were part of some subversive Zionist marketing ploy. No one will ever take these things seriously again and the bombs will go undetected. Thanks to Boston police for the idea.
Jeff|2.1.07 @ 2:00PM|#
I love how the Fox commentators were saying that their comments on hair to the press would not go over well with the judge on the case. What do their comments to the press, basically not saying anything about the case, have to do with any trial.
|2.1.07 @ 2:03PM|#
Jeff- The reporters' comments have to do with the trial that
they're holding in the court of public opinion.
Hopefully the reporters can be forgiven for mistaking that court
for the state's. Happens all the time.
Bhh|2.1.07 @ 2:06PM|#
Damn cookies.
Guys, come on! We're trying to work ourselves into a pants-pissing
frenzy here.
They're basically not saying anything about the case, which is
exactly what I imagine the lawyer told them to do. That reporter
intoning about the serious consequences might have been the best
part.
dhex|2.1.07 @ 2:10PM|#
i'm normally not one of the fuck faux news types, but the outraged bit at the end about not helping their case was a smug-fest worthy of any obnoxious liberal.
|2.1.07 @ 2:16PM|#
You folks still don't get it, do you? When terroristic threats are outlawed only the Homeland Security Department will be able to use them.
Cat|2.1.07 @ 2:20PM|#
Q. Mr. Grossman, with what will you be charging these
individuals?
A. Someone set us up the bomb!
pdog|2.1.07 @ 2:22PM|#
I love adult swim and ATHF. This is just too funny. That thing looks exactly like one of those lite-brite pages and anyone who would have thought otherwise must be mildly retarded. I can't help but wonder that even if they had gotten a permit to put them up the same retard would have seen it and called the police anyways.
|2.1.07 @ 2:23PM|#
Given the fact that this "scandal" will triple ticket sales for that movie, the legal costs should rightfully be paid by the producers and deducted as advertising expenses.
|2.1.07 @ 2:24PM|#
This reminds me of the Men in Black quote
Jay: Why the big secret? People are smart, they can handle
it.
Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals
and you know it.
Thank you BPD for once again showing that vast generalizations are
dead right. Morons.
|2.1.07 @ 2:43PM|#
when it's not scary, institutionalized paranoia can be really
funny stuff
Adult Swim oughta move the ATHF movie premier to Boston
pitch it as a benefit
with the proceeds going to all the victims of yesterday's narrowly
averted catastrophe
tijjer|2.1.07 @ 2:49PM|#
This has to have turned into one of the most successful marketing campaigns in recent memory. Now 58 year old moms who don't even get cable know what Aqua Teen Hunger Force is.
|2.1.07 @ 2:58PM|#
The over-reaction is terrible, and I really, really wanna be a good libertarian, but do I have to think this story, these two guys and their dumb jokes are awesome?
|2.1.07 @ 3:01PM|#
It's not their jokes that are funny, it's the entire incident
and the fact that they had the balls to blow off the reporters, who
were playing into it with their question, all of which
unquestionably assumed the city's side of things.
It also really goes to show what self-important pricks reporters
are: their comments are very revealing as to their worldviews.
|2.1.07 @ 3:14PM|#
However, the fact that two twentysomething dorks have pointed up the stupidity of all of this terrorist fearmongering by the state and the press through what is quickly becoming an exercise in absurdism just has me giggling.
|2.1.07 @ 3:24PM|#
Think the BPD will make an appearance at the next major national
police convention, or will they be too ashamed?
I think reporters should be going out to other cities,
like Seattle
Reporter in Seattle: Chief McSwain, why didn't your department
think these devices were bombs?
Chief McSwain: The same reason we didn't think they were toasters.
They looked like lite-brites with a D battery power supply, and
that's how we treated them.
|2.1.07 @ 3:26PM|#
"The over-reaction is terrible, and I really, really wanna be a
good libertarian, but do I have to think this story, these two guys
and their dumb jokes are awesome?"
Wanting to boot self-righteous reporters in the crotch crosses most
ideological boundaries.
This still hasn't upped my appreciation of dreadlocks on white
folk, though.
|2.1.07 @ 3:28PM|#
The Chief of Police should be fired and stripped of his pension.
Claiming that something that resembles a Lite-Brite was fashioned
to resemble a bomb is so puerile you can still see the stretch
marks where the DA pulled it out of his ass.
It took 45 minutes to pack-up the bomb-squad robot, and probably
another 20 to wake up his technician (because all engineers on city
payrolls are layabouts anyway), and god knows how long to set it
up. In that time nobody on the BPD decided to do any form of
internet search? Googling "cartoon character middle finger" never
came to mind? Especially in a city where bigger and more-visible
MIT pranks occur regularly?
|2.1.07 @ 3:37PM|#
These reporters missed the golden opportunity!!
These 2 only wanted to field hair questions, and none of the
reporters asked how it feels to be responsible for causing Boston
authorities to pull their hair out.
|2.1.07 @ 3:39PM|#
The material ain't bad for cooking it up in a holding cell five
minutes before the press conference.Bless those boys.
The other amusing thing is that not only was there no reaction from
the other 10 cities these things were posted, there was no reaction
from the all the times this guy has posted similar installations in
the past.
|2.1.07 @ 3:48PM|#
Not having ever seen the show and being generally unfamiliar
with what people were talking about, I finally bumped into a
picture of what the Boston DA is referring to as a "bomb
hoax."
I laughed my ass off.
The BPD should arrest itself for shouting "bomb" in a crowded city.
The only person perpetrating a hoax is the Mayor. Worst of all, it
having been made completely clear that this was intended to alert
the public to a television show, the DA had the slippery stones to
walk into a court and spew out the blatant lie that they intended
for people to believe it was a bomb. What is he basing that on?
|2.1.07 @ 3:55PM|#
From the Seattle Times article:
Authorities are investigating whether Turner or other companies
should be criminally charged, Attorney General Martha Coakley said.
"We're not going to let this go without looking at the further
roots of how this happened to cause the panic in this city,"
Coakley said.
DUH! First off, what f***ing panic? Second, the cause of this
purported panic was the overreaction of the AG's heavies, i.e., the
Boston PD. How can these words leave someone's mouth (esp. that of
a LAWYER) without their realizing that what she just said was
totally inane?
|2.1.07 @ 4:01PM|#
"""I love how the Fox commentators were saying that their
comments on hair to the press would not go over well with the judge
on the case. What do their comments to the press, basically not
saying anything about the case, have to do with any trial."""
Fox thinks they are high and might. Really, they are just high. It
gives them cause to say what's wrong with liberal America.
I'm sure O'Reilly will use this as an example of why you need to by
his book, Culture Warrior.
Kidding aside it shows what poor quality they really are at Fox
with respect to law.
|2.1.07 @ 4:03PM|#
The other funny thing is, how did they get "caught" so
quickly?
Is it because the Boston Police Dept conducted a quick
investigation and found their video on the web (while failing to
notice all the other Adult Swim stuff)?
Or is it because they called up the police and said, "Hey, stop
panicking, they are not bombs, we put them up, and here is where we
put them?"
Remember this when mumblin' Menino next comes out with some bromide
claiming that the only people who should carry guns in Boston are
members of his gang, since they are the only trustworthy ones.
;)
|2.1.07 @ 4:09PM|#
The ATHF movie can use this stuff in their promos
The movie that brought Boston to it's knees!
The Mayor of Boston sez this movie is Da Bomb! Evacuate your
building and see it now!
Soon to put your city on high alert.
Oh it could go on, and on, and on...
No matter what they say or do, Boston is the laughing stock for
THEIR reaction.
Christopher Monnier|2.1.07 @ 4:09PM|#
> The BPD should arrest itself for shouting "bomb" in a
crowded city.
Exactly. Their overreaction was on par with that of Team America in
Paris. Imagine if someone had died (maybe someone did?) as a result
of all the road closures and panic. The Boston Police Department
should not be let off the hook. They endgangered the public far
more than the two Lite-Brite Bombers.
|2.1.07 @ 4:12PM|#
"""The other funny thing is, how did they get "caught" so
quickly?"""
Quickly? The signs were up for 3 weeks. The guys had nothing to
hid, so no need to run. This is free press for the ad agency,
Cartoon Network, and ATHF. Free press for the city of Boston
too.
|2.1.07 @ 4:17PM|#
This reminds me of a favorite Bob Goldthwait moment. During the
whole Shakes the Clown hubub where clown groups were protesting the
movie, Goldthwait wound up on Katie couric's show opposite a clown
in full makeup.
So the clown does his spiel in a stupid clown voice "we think this
movie reflects us clowns in a very poor light with kids."
So Goldthwait responds, "good. Clowns scare kids, they scare me
too."
Couric steps in and says to Goldthwait, "will you take this
seriously?"
Goldthwait says, "Nooooooooo. Listen, you're interviewing me and a
clown at seven o'clock in the morning. Did you lose a bet?"
Why should these guys take this seriously when this is possible the
most ridiculous thing to make the national news in years?
|2.1.07 @ 4:18PM|#
Quickly? The signs were up for 3 weeks. The guys had nothing
to hid, so no need to run. This is free press for the ad agency,
Cartoon Network, and ATHF. Free press for the city of Boston
too.
I think tarran's point was that if they actually were committing
the crime of hoax bombs, they certainly wouldn't be calling up and
saying "we did it". BPD "caught" them because they called up and
said "you guys are completely re-tah-ded".
|2.1.07 @ 4:28PM|#
There was a bomb scare
that made the cops mad
because they can't tell
a bomb from an ad.
Burma Shave.
|2.1.07 @ 4:43PM|#
Boston.com has a google map with markers showing the locations
of these things.
Not sure if everyone will be able to see it, as the website
requires registration. (I used bugmenot.)
map of sign locations.
|2.1.07 @ 4:48PM|#
I gotta think that the ghost of Robert Anton Wilson is getting a
royal kick out of this. Pure pranksterism in the finest discordian
tradition.
"i'm normally not one of the fuck faux news types, but the outraged
bit at the end about not helping their case was a smug-fest worthy
of any obnoxious liberal."
Hahahah! Wait, what?
|2.1.07 @ 4:54PM|#
I hadn't noticed before that the authorities had called in a Coast Guard cutter... ah, thank you Boston, for giving the gift of laughter. Now fire your authorities and hire people with double-digit IQs, or your reputation may never recover.
Hormone Cow|2.1.07 @ 5:03PM|#
This is Bobcat with Kathy-Lee. Doesn't mention losing a bet, but
still hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vJ1PnVQWHw
Hormone Cow|2.1.07 @ 5:17PM|#
Whoops, just realized the above poster referred to Katie Couric...got my talking heads confused.
untitled|2.1.07 @ 5:17PM|#
Two Fake Pipe Bombs Found not Part of Marketing Stunt
"The two devices found in an office at Tufts-New England Medical
Center and attached to the Longfellow Bridge yesterday morning were
not the marketing devices that sparked a daylong panic in Boston,
but simulated pipe bombs, police officials said last night.
In the hospital incident, investigators believe a former hospital
employee planted the phony bomb in an office at 185 Harrison Ave.
He has been identified but has not been charged, the sources
said.
Boston Police bomb squad cops detonated the pipe bomb, which was a
very realistic-looking fake, the sources said."
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=180349
The mistake was not making the "devices" look more like real fake
bombs.
Willie S.|2.1.07 @ 5:20PM|#
In Bobcat's own words:
It all peaked when, upon arriving to appear on the Today Show
after a sleepless flight, I was told that "a clown is going to
debate you on the show." I said, "I know, I've seen your program."
I was then informed that they meant a real clown, not Katie Couric.
The clown and I shared a small dressing room; his name was
Bamboozle. We were very cordial to each other, but he seemed a
little confused when I informed him I was going to rip him a new
asshole when we got out on the air. He asked, "Why?" I said,
"'Cause it's TV. It's not real. It's like wrestling." True to my
word, when we got out there, the shit hit the fan. (Katie has gone
on to claim on both Rosie and Conan that it was her worst interview
ever. I take this as quite a compliment, coming from a woman who
has to interview 'NSync with a straight face.) Bamboozle said
something like "Clowns do a lot of good work for kids and Bobcat's
film portrays them in a negative light." I said, "Nobody thinks
clowns are funny. The only reason you perform in hospitals is
because that's the one place a kid can't get up and run away from
you." Katie started hitting me with her notes and asked,"Would you
please be serious?" I said, "No, you're interviewing me and a
clown. What happened? Did you lose a bet with Bryant?" I have said
and done much worse things on talk shows, but I have never been
asked back on the Today Show.
Most people get nervous when they see a clown, because clowns give
off this vibe that they are going to make you touch their penis. I
get nervous when I see a clown, because I don't know if he is going
to slug me over something I said when I was trying to promote my
low-low-budget movie.
|2.1.07 @ 5:39PM|#
Shakes the Clown is the Citizen Kane of alcoholic clown
movies.
This is a genre???
Robert|2.1.07 @ 6:19PM|#
Wasn't there either a similar teaser ad campaign or artistic stunt just a few years ago? Large boxes labeled "?" were left at various street locations around the world.
|2.1.07 @ 6:21PM|#
I just got to see the video. Ahhh that's sooo funny.
How many times has a Whitehouse spokesman wanted to treat the press
that way? You know they all secretly wanted to.
I found the Fox reporters to be funny too. They thought the act of
disrespecting the liberal media in Kennedyland was appalling.
Obviously they forgot where they were working.
|2.1.07 @ 6:22PM|#
Robert-
That was an installation art project based on the Super Mario
Brothers Nintendo games.
jimmy|2.1.07 @ 7:31PM|#
i almost never read all your infantile wannabe-anarchist crap
anymore, but i just wanted to confirm to myself that all you
H&R people would love this hoax, and i wasn't disappointed.
yep, these guys are libertarian heroes, right up there with pit
bull owners and parents giving booze to 12-year-olds.
just suppose there HAD been bombs planted by terrorists...of course
they would have been disguised to not look like bombs. and i
suppose you all know exactly what a bomb looks like. yeah, let that
guy light his shoe on fire, it doesn't look like a "bomb" and only
a stupid cop would think it was. oops, wait, i can't even use that
hypothetical, cuz according to you all there are no terrorists in
the first place, only the evil GWB.
justice holmes suggested in the '20s that you can be punished for
shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, and he was hardly a raging
fascist. but apparently there are a lot of immature children who
get their jollies watching the modern-day version of holmes's
example. and for what...the cartoon network??? are you kidding
me??? i think maybe e! is the only cable network that is more
lame.
hope you all enjoy getting 0.00001% of the vote in the next
election again! and have fun watching your cartoon network
movie...oooh, maybe they will say a bad word in it or use a poop
joke. morons.
Egon|2.1.07 @ 7:33PM|#
What I want to know is what Dave Willis and Matt Maiellaro are thinking right now.
|2.1.07 @ 7:51PM|#
Well, by the rabid logic of Jimmy, anything that can possibly be
misconstrued as a bomb should be banned. He obviously has a lot f
experience.
Hey, see over in Iraq and Afghanistan, where they are constantly
dealing with real IEDs? They are not looking for brightly lit
novelty signs, the are looking for piles of debris, parked cars,
and cinder blocks (really scary how realistic they look). Yes, I
have seen them.
I guarantee that if there is a sophisticated plot, you won't see
wires sticking out the back of a Lite-Brite.
I hope they do use a poop joke in the ATHF movie.
and I hope Jimmy's kids see it and turn into homosexual serial
killers (poop jokes do that)
|2.1.07 @ 8:16PM|#
And Jimmy thinks he's a bright one.
1. There was no hoax, they were displayed as intended and they were
not designed to look like anything else but a ATHF character with
the intention of hyping a movie.
2. Reality is not about if, but about what is
3. If you can't yell fire in a theater, absents of a real fire,
because it will cause undo panic, you can't yell bomb, in the
absents of a real bomb, and cause undo panic.
4. Personal attacks do not further your argument.
5. No one but jimmy claims the possibility of no terrorist.
Jimmy give a fine display of everything an intelligent person is
not.
Sal Paradise|2.1.07 @ 8:22PM|#
Jimmy, watch out! I think the terrorists have planted a bomb under your Shift key!
|2.1.07 @ 8:51PM|#
The reason that you are not permitted to shout "Fire" in a
crowded theater is because it is an act of fraud (assuming there is
no fire).
People pay to attend a theater to see some entertainment. If you
shout fire falsely, causing them to flee, then you have deprived
them of their entertainment. If you own the thater, you are
basically stealing the patrons' money. If you are not the owner,
then you are, in effect, trespassing - since the theater owner
wants people to stay and see the show.
The first ammendment does not come into it.
Now as to the claim that somehow these guys did the same thing, -
er no. They never pretended that they had plantedbombs. To my
knowledge they called in no threat. The devices clearly were
manufactured with no "extra" components not needed to drive the
lights.
Hell, you could pack a bigger bomb in some of the discarded shoes
I've seen on Storrow drive or on the Longfellow bridge, but for
some reason we don't feel a need to shut down the city everytime
someone loses something off their car.
This was a simple, loss of judgement casualty. Unfortunately, these
guys have guns and prefer to hurt people over admitting that they
did something dumb.
|2.1.07 @ 10:54PM|#
I think they'll get off on any terrorist type charges because
most of those types of crimes you have to actually intend to
terrorize rather just intend to do some act that results in people
being terrorized.
civil liability is different because trespass is an intentional
tort so any damages (even unforseeable damages) that flow from the
trespass are recoverable. Also claiming the city overacted will be
no defense to an intentional tort.
The reason this rule exists is suppose I play a prank by moving
your chair from under you before you sit down and this causes you
to fall down and become cripple. Shouldn't I pay your medical bills
even if it was totally unforseeable that you would become cripple
because of a silly prank? (otherwise you would have to pay your own
bills for something I did).
Ted Turner will probably have to pay out the ass (since those guys
don't look like they have much money).
just my 2 cents...
|2.1.07 @ 11:35PM|#
Tarran, I think you're missing the point of the "'Fire!' in a crowded theater" analogy. The risk is not that you will waste their time, it is that they will trample one another trying to escape.
|2.2.07 @ 1:07AM|#
I think we need a new religion formed around these two guys!
brilliant!!!!
//The reason that you are not permitted to shout "Fire" in a
crowded theater is because it is an act of fraud (assuming there is
no fire).
the real question you should be asking is: is it permitted to yell
'Theater' in a crowded fire (assuming there is no Theater)?
david|2.2.07 @ 1:53AM|#
no because more people might run INTO the fire, deceived into believing they were about to see some dramatic entertainment
|2.2.07 @ 7:16AM|#
> These 2 only wanted to field hair questions,
> and none of the reporters asked how it feels
> to be responsible for causing Boston
> authorities to pull their hair out.
You, sir, misuderguesstimate the rank mediocrity of mainstream
regional television "journalism".
89% of the reporters at that "press conferences" are embarassments
to their chosen profession... and they got exactly what they
deserved (for attempting to "produce" a regional story into the
national mind share).
|2.2.07 @ 7:23AM|#
> The reason that you are not permitted to
> shout "Fire" in a crowded theater is because
> it is an act of fraud (assuming there is no
> fire).
Uh... no.
Those who don't understand their history and destine to revise
it... poorly.
...and you had better be god damned careful how you construe that
particular interperation of the law because I see politicans
getting away with it all the time on national TV.
|2.2.07 @ 7:36AM|#
I think it's very important for us to realise that pranks like
this only make the discussion of comtemporary hairstyles all the
more difficult.
In all seriousness, it's dreadlocked hippies like this that aren't
taking the follicle discussions onward, they're keeping it firmly
deadlocked.
COOP|2.2.07 @ 8:07AM|#
I generally agree with the consensus here regarding the complete
absurdity of this entire tawdry affair. (Is Barney Fife the chief
of police in Boston?)
That being said, as soon as those two stoner dumbasses started in
on their unfunny mumbling "comedy" routine, I wanted to smack 'em
upside their heads. I never felt so much like my dad before in my
life. Maybe I was just reacting to the "white guy with dreadlocks"
thing.
|2.2.07 @ 9:40AM|#
Press Conference Video On Youtube
"Only hair questions!" ROTFL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx2ytr2Oyv4
|2.2.07 @ 10:33AM|#
There is nothing to even discuss about this. The fact that they
were even arrested for this is just silly. I guess though, when you
are an elected official who is responsible for one of the worst
false alarms in recent history, and are apparently unable to tell
an over abused lightbright from a bomb. I guess I can undestand
scrambling to put the blame on somone else. "Quick, point the
finger at the guy with the dreads!" lol, it's a classic...
The fact that the media is jumping in on the lynching... is just
sad. I mean come on. It makes a much better story to just rip on
Boston for being this dumb ;)
All I have to say about this is one more thing:
"In Boston, the innocent shall suffer... big time!"
anon|2.3.07 @ 12:14AM|#
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