Jacob Sullum | December 8, 2006
I'm talking, of course, about the Conservative movement of Judaism, which is confusingly situated left of Orthodoxy and right of Reform and Reconstructionist (both of which have accepted gay rabbis and gay marriage for a decade or so). And it's not really true that the whole movement is accepting gay clergy and gay couples. Rather, such acceptance is now officially an option approved by the Committee on Jewish Law and Standards of the Rabbinical Assembly. The law committee is sort of like the Supreme Court, except that it has more members (25 vs. nine); it interprets halacha (Jewish law) instead of the Constitution; and minority opinions count, as long as they attract a minimum number of votes. Conservative congregations may now choose between three conflicting legal opinions, two of which say gay rabbis and gay unions are halachically forbidden and one of which says they are halachically permitted.
The latter opinion hinges on a narrow interpretation of the biblical commandment, "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; it is an abomination.” Under this reading, only anal sex with men is forbidden; oral sex, touching, and so on are OK. (The Bible is silent on the subject of lesbianism.) The law committee rejected attempts to ditch the rule against homosexuality altogether, which is not surprising, since the movement's identity hinges on halachic interpretation, as opposed to outright emendation. Even under the more permissive option, gay congregants are supposed to keep their sexual energies out of unapproved channels. Of course, Conservative Jews are also supposed to keep kosher and observe the Sabbath, but it would be an awfully small movement if those were enforced conditions of membership.
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Once more, the absurdity of allowing three thousand year-old texts to determine our behavior and mores is clearly illustrated. Yeah, no buttfucking but you can suck and frot away. Oy vey! How about that for a tortured interpretation?
(both of which have accepted gay rabbis and gay marriage for
a decade or so)
Most of the arguments I've heard for and against game marriage tend
to fall into the morality, family stability, or equal protection
angles. There's an aspect of the gay marriage debate I've haven't
heard anything about since it first really appeared on the
political radar screens: the First Amendment angle. Let's face it.
Marriage is primarily a religious ceremony, namely the cosmic
approval for the sex lives of two (or more, heh heh) people. Now,
everyone open up your Cato Institute Pocket Constitutions and Bill
Of Rights and read along with me... ahem...:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
Now, what we have here is a religion that is more than willing to
allow same-sex couples to get married. I'm sure that there are
other faiths out there who do not share the Religious Right's
bigotry on this matter and would also be willing to hitch gays and
lesbians. Given that, wouldn't a ban on gay marriage violate the
free exercise clause? Wouldn't a ban create state approval for one
religion's definition of marriage, a clear violation of the
establishment clause?
Why haven't I heard first amendment scholars come forth on this
issue, or have they and I just missed it? To me it seems to be the
best argument for gay marriage around.
How is prohibiting anal sex a literal interpretation of "Do not
lie with a man..." I can't think of any man who could possibly have
vaginal intercourse with another man, so I'm a little lost
here.
I actually got an e-mail from the new rabbi at my parents'
synagogue this morning of a press release he wrote on the topic. It
seemed pretty apparent which way he's leaning.
"what about anal sex with a woman? is that kosher?"
Only if you're not donkey punching her in the back of the head with
a fist full of sea scallops.
How is prohibiting anal sex a literal interpretation of "Do
not lie with a man..." I can't think of any man who could possibly
have vaginal intercourse with another man, so I'm a little lost
here.
How can you expect logic from a faith who thought drinking "dirty
water" was a sure-fire means to determine if you're wife has been
sleeping around on you.(Numbers 5: 11-31)
I'm a Reconstructionist Jew. Since 2002, when our founder left for greener pastures, my congregation has had no straight rabbis. I'm weirdly proud of that.
"Do not lie with a man as with a woman..."
Clearly the correct interpretation is that man on man anal is
fi-didlee-fine as long as neither has gone backdoor with a
woman.
When I saw the title my immediate puzzlement was "since when did the GOP start courting support from all of those writers, actors, wardrobe designers and Formula-1 mechanics?"
Halacha provides for a balance of change and continuity. There
is such a range in rabbis that congregants can find the balance
that fits them best.
The ruling on homosexuality is a step in the right direction. Ten
years from now, there will probably be full acceptance of
homosexuals.
This isn't the first time rabbis redefined marriage rules. Around
1,000 years ago Ashkenazi rabbis outlawed polygyny.
gay oral sex cannot be kosher since it involves a man sticking a sausage in another man's mouth. and iirc, there's a kashrut prohibition against eating bottom-feeders...
Clearly the correct interpretation is that man on man anal
is fi-didlee-fine as long as neither has gone backdoor with a
woman.
Too damn funny. A Bishopic for you.
Only if you're not donkey punching her in the back of the
head with a fist full of sea scallops.
ooooooooooookay...
Of course, Conservative Jews are also supposed to keep kosher and observe the Sabbath, but it would be an awfully small movement if those were enforced conditions of membership.
WTF? Does Sullum actually think that Conservative Jews don't bother
to keep kosher and obey the Sabbath? There are a lot of Jews in
this city, and I can tell you that a lot of them are very serious
about these things. (For example, some buildings even have "Sabbath
elevators" which go up and down and stop at every floor
automatically, so that you don't have to press a button to make
them work.) Also, I don't think there is such a thing as
"membership in Conservative Judaism". Basically, to Jews, once a
Jew, always a Jew. Maybe a bad Jew who eats crab rangoons while
using electricity on the Sabbath, but still a Jew. So you don't
stop being a Jew, or even a Conservative Jew, just because you
occasionally break a rule. I really don't think Sullum knows what
he's talking about here. A particular congregation or organization
could kick someone out, and might if he made a big public political
stand about homosexuality or eating treyf, but I don't
believe there are any that police their members' private activity
that closely.
(The Bible is silent on the subject of
lesbianism.)
Isn't that sexism by omission? I call for another chapter to be
added to the Bible, first describing a lesbian relationship in
salacious detail, and then showing the dykes punished by a wrathful
diety.
(The Bible is silent on the subject of
lesbianism.)
Isn't the Bible pretty much silent on the subject of female
sexuality in general.
I mean, men are recognized as horndogs whose hordoggery is
sometimes condoned and sometimes condemned, while women are
virtuous vessels who bear children.
"I mean, men are recognized as horndogs whose hordoggery is
sometimes condoned and sometimes condemned, while women are
virtuous vessels who bear children."
Which edition of the Bible are you using? My edition has women
serving as generals and hit-persons (Judges, Chapter 4-5),
head-chopper-offers (the entire book of Judith), witches (1 Samuel
28:7-25 -- and she wasn't hanged or anything!), and
*Kelo*-implementing land confiscators (1 Kings Chapter 21.
"Isn't the Bible pretty much silent on the subject of female
sexuality in general."
Uh, no. Look at 2 Samuel Chap. 11, the Song of Solomon, and of
course Genesis 38:13-26. That last one is actually kind of kinky,
because a woman gets it on with her father-in-law.
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