Radley Balko | November 10, 2006
In its election recap, the Washington Post reports the following from the state of West Virginia:
In the 1st District, Rep. Alan B. Mollohan (D) survived a year of congressional scandal, defeating state Del. Christopher Wakim (R) to earn a 13th term. Mollohan overcame his dismissal from the House ethics committee, investigations of his real estate dealings and allegations that he used his influence to shift millions of taxpayer dollars to friends and relatives. Mollohan will keep his Appropriations Committee seat.
Throughout the state, any sense of suspense ended for unnamed schools, bridges and dams: Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D) won a ninth term over John Raese (R), positioning Byrd to extend his record as longest-serving U.S. senator and top Democrat on the Appropriations Committee.
Emphasis mine.
Here's the challenge: Mollohan is, to say the least, "ethically challenged." There's no sensible reason for him to retain his seat on the most powerful committee in the House of Representatives. If Nancy Pelosi is serious about "draining the swamp," she'll kick Mollohan off the appropriations committee before she pounds her first gavel.
As for Byrd, his history of earmarking excesses makes Ted Stevens look like Ron Paul. Earmarking is little more than legalized corruption. It's buying votes. Not only did Robert Byrd perfect the practice, he's the one who put a "secret hold" on a bill that wouldn't have even eliminated the practice, but would merely have added a bit of transparency to it. Democrats who rightly railed against the "Bridge to Nowhere" can't be taken seriously if they sit back and let Byrd resume diverting millions of taxpayer dollars to wasteful pork projects in West Virginia. Harry Reid should remove him from the Senate Appropriations Committee.
It won't be easy -- Byrd in particular is likely to raise holy hell. But if you're going to change the culture of corruption in Washington, you'd go a long way toward demonstrating your seriousness by starting with your own party.
It would also be nice to see the lefty blogs pick up on this, and give Pelosi and Reid the cover they need to do the right thing.
UPDATE: Several readers have written to point out that Pelosi is set to pass over Rep. Jane Harman to make Rep. Alcee Hastings chair of the Intelligence Committee. Hastings is of course a formal federal judge who was impeached and removed from the bench by a Democratic Congress in 1989 for taking bribes. Apparently, the Congressional Black Caucus is demanding a chairmanship for Hastings to compensate for the loss of influence caused by Rep. William Jefferson's removal from the Appropriations Committee -- also due to corruption.
This, within 72 hours of the election. Meet the new boss...
ANOTHER UPDATE: Glenn Reynolds links to
this post, calling it a case of libertarian "buyer's
remorse." Not exactly. I still think the GOP needed to
lose this election. And I'm glad they did. But
supporting the Dems in the election doesn't mean we give them a
pass now that they've won.
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Mollohan's win confirms the general axiom that voters tend to reject Republicans with any hint of scandal (e.g. Weldon) while re-electing crooks like Mollohan, Jefferson, and the scumbags who run cities such as Philadelphia. Of course, all 535 in D.C. are thieves to one extent or another, but Dems seem to get a pass more often.
It would also be nice to see the lefty blogs pick up on
this, and give Pelosi and Reid the cover they need to do the right
thing.
somewhere between, "no way," and, "ain't gonna happen." they're the
blue team's version of hannity or limbaugh. happy to carry
water.
Has Mollohan been convicted of anything? If the allegations proved to be unfounded, I don't see why he should lose his committee seat.
If you've ever been to West Virginia, you'll notice two things:
(1) it's an absolutely beautiful state; (2) everything is named
after Byrd. There is absolutely no question that Byrd is the
reigning king of pork. And none of his earmarked expenditures make
any sense, nor have they done anything to alleviate poverty in that
state. West Virginia boasts six lane highways with fewer cars than
lanes, and right beside the highways are shacks brimming with
toothless and pregnant women.
I'll second Radley Balko on his challenge. The webroots people lost
on Dean and Lieberman. If they can help pressure Reid to oust Byrd
from the appropriations committee, they might yet be relevant after
all. We libertarians who voted against Republicans this year should
also do our part to put the pressure on Byrd. As far as I'm
concerned, a crying Byrd would be just as good or better than a
crying Santorum.
Sadly, the whole idea that Democrats are going to do anything to
rein in spending is, um, ridiculous, and I say that as a long-term
Democrat. Democrats have a very hard time voting against any kind
of federal spending whatsoever. Republicans believe in welfare for
the rich; Democrats believe in welfare for everyone.
In addition, the close political divisions in most of the country
makes it essentially impossible for politicians of either party to
refrain from pork-barrel vote-buying. Furthermore, the voters like
it.
Jefferson hasn't won yet, and the lefty blogs are supporting
his opponent in the run-off on Dec. 9.
It may not be the same as standing up to Byrd, but it's a pretty
positive step.
(1) it's an absolutely beautiful state; (2) everything is
named after Byrd.
And it contains more concrete per resident than anyplace on
earth.
Has Mollohan been convicted of anything? If the allegations
proved to be unfounded, I don't see why he should lose his
committee seat.
Not being convicted of a crime doesn't imply that the allegations
are unfounded. The bar for criminal conduct is very high
(rightfully so), and the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard
leaves quite a bit of room for sub-criminal ethical malfeasance,
particularly given the practical difficulty of proving scienter in
these type of cases. That Mollohan has acted in an unethical manner
is beyond question. If Democrats want to argue that a criminal
conviction is necessary to pursue a much needed house cleaning,
then they haven't learned anything from recent scandals.
Was it Byrd who started the abhorrent trend of naming public works after living people (let alone the even more abhorrent practice of naming stuff after himself)? "Reagan National Airport" and "George Bush Turnpike" come to mind.
Was it Byrd who started the abhorrent trend of naming public
works after living people (let alone the even more abhorrent
practice of naming stuff after himself)? "Reagan National Airport"
and "George Bush Turnpike" come to mind.
Most likely. I've been to Morgantown for WVU games and to the
tracks to bet the horses and I am not exaggerating, I've been on
SEVEN different roads, streets or highways named after Byrd.
creech,
Your axiom has some exceptions:
John Doolitle
Chris Shays
Jerry Lewis
Steven LaTourette
Jerry Lewis
I think it depends more on the party affiliation percentages of the
district rather than the party itself. Strong Rep districts
re-elect compromised Reps and likewise for the Dems.
Not being convicted of a crime doesn't imply that the
allegations are unfounded. The bar for criminal conduct is very
high (rightfully so), and the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard
leaves quite a bit of room for sub-criminal ethical malfeasance,
particularly given the practical difficulty of proving scienter in
these type of cases.
That may be so, but I still feel uncomfortable turning committee
assignments over to the right-wing smear machine. Don't want a
particular Dem on a committee? Just throw some allegations out
there.
Not only did Robert Byrd perfect the practice, he's the
one who put a "secret hold" on a bill that
wouldn't have even eliminated the practice, but would merely have
added a bit of transparency to it.
emphasis mine this time, Radley. and this doesn't
excuse Byrd's behavior, but I beg to differ. from the article you
linked to:
...Sen. Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va., acknowledged Thursday that he
also placed a "secret hold" on legislation that
would open up the hidden world of government contracts to public
scrutiny.
Byrd and Alaska Republican Ted Stevens, two of
the most skilled purveyors of federal funds, used the parliamentary
maneuver to stop legislation that would create a searchable
database of some $2.5 trillion in federal spending.
emphasis mine again
Sometimes allegations are entirely baseless. In which case,
neither legal nor political action need be taken. Sometimes
allegations are overwhelmingly supported by evidence. Legal and
political consequences should then follow. Finally, sometimes
there's a decent amount of evidence that something wrong has been
done but not enough to convict. In that case, a politician should
not be prosecuted, but should suffer censure, removal from
committees, and possibly even removal from office.
Like Caesar's wife, these people are supposed to be held to a
higher, not a lower, standard of conduct. We really need
to stop giving these jokers passes on all of their unethical
behavior. Yeah, maybe they all do it, but when they get caught,
they should be out on their asses, not getting treated like nothing
happened.
I still feel uncomfortable turning committee assignments
over to the right-wing smear machine. Don't want a particular Dem
on a committee? Just throw some allegations out there.
Well, was Tom DeLay convicted when he decided not to run again? No.
Am I crying about that? No.
There is a "left-wing smear machine" as well. To be expected,
really. I don't think it does any sort of favors to really fighting
corruption to jump on any accusation against one party and then
defend members of the other by saying "well, he hasn't been
convicted yet."
The best part was when people actually believed that policy
would resemble campaign promises...
Come on, did anyone actually have any expectations that things
would change? I voted SPT democrat, but not under the expectations
that the candidates themselves would be any better---my glimmer of
hope resides in the coming "nobody has a true majority" Senate (you
need 60), and the ensuing gridlock that I'm praying for.
Funny thing is...well, not so funny as it is depressing...is that
everyone, and I mean fucking EVERYONE, talks about gridlock as if
it is some evil bogeyman to be avoided at all costs. I hear fucking
idiot jackass commentators saying "it's time they put aside our
partisan differences and get to work". Why is it such an absolute
good when congress is "getting shit done"? It's not like they ever
do anything but take our liberties and our treasure. So why the
FUCK should we be demanding that they "get to work"? We should not.
People have this unreasonable (and, IMHO, completely imbecile)
expectation that Congress should always be "working", just like you
and me. News flash: congress isn't a business...or it shouldn't be.
The LESS they work, the better we all are.
So let's just sit back and pray for gridlock. And stop acting
shock, SHOCKED I TELLS YA, when the democrats don't buck the
system. The best we can hope for, no matter who is in power, is
gridlock.
If the allegation comes from Rush Limbaugh, I think it's safe to
let them hold on to their posts. If the allegation comes from law
enforcement, some non-partisan watchdog group or someone on your
own side, it's best to kick them off, if only for the sake of
appearances. Until either they clear their name or not.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is excellent in a court of law, but
politics is a different game.
I suppose Byrd may be hard to get rid of. As distasteful as he is,
he has seniority, he probably has established good relations with
others in the party and, when you come down to it, his crime is
doing what all the other lawmakers are doing, only doing it more.
He has not, as far as I know, broken any ethics rules and as much
as we would all like pork to be declared unethical that's not a
justifiable reason to punish Byrd.
Mollohan is probably a different story.
Here's an article from one of the agents of the "right-wing
smear machine", the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/14/AR2006051401032.html
Of if they are too partisan for you, a site which lists who they
think are the 20 most corrupt members of Congress lists 17
Republicans and 3 Democrats. Mollohan is one of them.
http://www.beyonddelay.org/
Defending Mollohan is defending the indefensible. The _best_ spin
you could possibly put on it is he blew an obscene amount of money
on NFPs for his district. It is almost surely far far worse than
that.
Eventually, there will be a "Robert Byrd Memorial"
something.
My guess is there will be dozens of Byrd Memorial somethings,
including a KKK meeting hall.
I suppose Byrd may be hard to get rid of.
He's what, 89? All we need is for some Republican staffer to jump
out of a toilet stall and yell "BOO!".
If the allegation comes from Rush Limbaugh, I think it's
safe to let them hold on to their posts. If the allegation comes
from law enforcement, some non-partisan watchdog group or someone
on your own side, it's best to kick them off, if only for the sake
of appearances.
And if Rush repeats the allegations coming from law enforcement,
some non-partisan watchdog group, or someone on your own side...
then their in the clear again? Nice.
Which is it?
Draining the swamp?
or
San Francisco values?
I just want to share that Waki Paki and I have been high-fivin'
each other and patting each other on the butt since the election
results were announced.
I'm feeling those San Francisco values wash over me! He's not
excited by that, but, rather that there's a good chance his
coreligionists will not be getting killed in such numbers.
He's what, 89? All we need is for some Republican staffer to
jump out of a toilet stall and yell "BOO!".
Remember how long Strom Thurmond lived? Those crazy old bastards
live forever.
I lived in WV for a while, down the street from a federal facility which researched the reproduction of the fruit fly. I don't remember whether it had Byrd's name on it, but pretty much everything else did.
Radley,
you provide a lot of cute rhetoric, but little of substance. I
challenge you to come up with some projects in WV that Mr. Byrd
secured funds for that are demonstrably useless and would NOT
simply have gone to another state. The ones for which Mr. Byrd
initiated the need in the first place, not just the money.
There are a number of facilities in my neck of the WV woods which
got to where they are through the influence of Sen. Byrd. Let's
face it, he's got clout. Most of these facilities are federal. If
they weren't here, they would be somewhere else. Seriously, anyone,
would you not think your Sen or Rep is doing the right thing
steering projects to their district?
We can argue about the merits of a National Conservation Training
Center or a training facility for the BATF, but it wasn't Mr.
Byrd's idea that they exist, just where they exist.
You charge Mr.Byrd with corruption. I think you mix up personal
corruption with a corrupt system. No one has ever been able to say
that Mr Byrd profited personally from his political connections. He
has profited politically, sure, but that's not corruption.
I agree with you that earmarks are a bad practice, then let's go
after them, not after one out of a hundred that use them! Throwing
one man off a committee is a mere gesture which won't solve the
problem, but just continues the bad practice of political
window-dressing.
It's cute to fall into this general dislike for a successful
politician, but Mr. Byrd is hardly on a level with some others,
recently not reelected.
It is not helpful to continue to blow up appearances as reality and
assign guilt by association simply for political expediency. Can't
be avoided during a campaign, hinders progress outside of
them.
As for naming facilities for living people, I have always thought
that to be unseemly, but Mr. Byrd is hardly alone. It's a universal
trend. He should have turned down the honour.
I do not know the exact motivation why Mr. Byrd put that "secret
hold" on the earmark reform legislation and if he thinks that
action was a smart move. I have left word with his office and will
relay the reply when I get it.
PS: I was going to comment that no one has yet brought up Mr.
Byrd's connection to the KKK 65 YEARS AGO. but I
see TPG beat me to it! Congratulations TPG!
Maybe in 2008 the entire focus of the LP and others interested
in fundamental changes in Washington should be to oust these undead
incumbents. I don't mean the old guys, I mean the guys who've been
in Congress for more than, say, twelve years (and I only give 'em
that long to let Senators stay for two terms). There's no way, no
how, any career politician (other than Paul and maybe five other
exceptions out of 535) can be trusted for that long. Out, damned
spot! Out, I say!
Even if the new guy is somewhat distasteful, a wholesale change has
got to bring with it at least some modicum of idealism and/or
reform-mindedness. We can use 1994 as a measure for how long that
will last, which means further ousting and reousting. In a country
of 300 million people, I think we can replace our Congresspeople
more often that every thirty or fifty years. Holy Zeus, people!
And, by the way, if the name is familiar but the face isn't, vote
against! Ye gods!
The length of time the Dems keep the Congress depends upon, pretty much, one thing: whether the Dems have learned to make peace with the NRA and conservative dem/lib like me who are its members and activists. If Schumer and Co. resort to their same old gun grabbing tricks, they will be taken back to the woodshed in 2008. Period.
The problem with "throwing the bums out" every 12 or so years is that the FiretrUCKing staffers run the place with even more of an iron fist than they do now. Don't like Pols? You'd like the staffers even less. Trust me.
From the Washington Post Article,
Mollohan's transactions -- first reported last month by the
Wall Street Journal -- were uncovered by the National Legal and
Policy Center, a small research institute in Virginia that gets
some of its funding from the politically conservative Scaife family
of Pittsburgh.
Like I said, right-wing smear machine.
I think we should wait for at least an indictment before we start
taking the word of Richard Mellon Scaife.
martin,
When the thief walks out of my home with my TV and jewels, I'm not
interested in whether he gives them to West Virginia or keeps them
himself. I just want my stuff back, and I want the thief kept out
of my home in the future.
I'm not even using this analogy in the usual libertarian, anti-tax
sense. I just mean that whether the misuse of funds is politically
or personally motivated or even legal really makes no difference.
It's still my money being used for purposes that are unfair and
illegitimate.
Letalis,
Well, yes, there's always the argument that staffers, lobbyists,
and bureaucrats gain power in such circumstances. There's some
truth to that, but I think you're more likely to see at least some
attempt to fight those entrenched "powers" when newbies enter
Congress (esp. in large numbers). Certainly, the power of these
jokers in Congress now is unchecked and will remain so without some
significant oustering and purgification.
Maybe Pelosi and the Democrats will listen to my drumbeat for the
Censor. Since we, the people, are too stupid/jaded/whatever to vote
unethical and corrupt people out of office on our own.
He's what, 89? All we need is for some Republican staffer to
jump out of a toilet stall and yell "BOO!".
Remember how long Strom Thurmond lived? Those crazy old bastards
live forever.
I think their hatred gives them power. Like the Emperor.
Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport is nice also. When did airports stop being named after people to honor them to the sitting Senator who appropriates tax dollars and claims "he" built the airport.
Left-wing auto-defense spin-control.
Meyer, sorry to disappoint, but your boys are just as corrupt as
the ones just kicked out - and I'm surprised it only took 2 days
for everyone to figure it out.
Pro Libertate:
"When the thief walks out of my home with my TV and
jewels...."
Fair enough, I'm with you on that one. Then let's go and get the
system changed. Going after one guy may feel good, but isn't going
to accomplish much.
martin,
Couldn't agree with you more. It's not one guy or even all the
guys. It's the danged system. Not to beat an undead, oh-so-edible
horse, but if the powers of Congressmen were strictly limited, then
the interest in corrupting them and the effects of whatever
corruption they bring with them would be remarkably curtailed. I'm
surprised the Constitution doesn't have anything in it about
limiting government power :)
If Nancy Pelosi is serious about "draining the swamp,"
she'll kick Mollohan off the appropriations committee before she
pounds her first gavel.
Reading the article, particularly her "first 100 hours" goals, I'm
afraid Nancy's version of "draining the swamp" will involve a fire
hose and a tank of water the size of Lake Michigan.
Here is an entertainingly long
list of things named after Byrd.
Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing? WTF
is that?
martin,
Ms. Marcus from WaPo was kind enough to compile a partial list of
Byrd related pork:
The Robert C. Byrd Federal Building and Courthouse in
Charleston, the Robert C. Byrd Federal Building and Courthouse in
Beckley, the Robert C. Byrd Expressway , the Robert C. Byrd Freeway
(I've driven on this one during "rush hour" - I practically had the
entire freeway to myself), the Robert C. Byrd Bridge, the Robert C.
Byrd National Technology Transfer Center at Wheeling Jesuit
University, the Robert C. Byrd Science and Technology Center at
Shepherd University , the Robert C. Byrd Technology Center at
Alderson-Broaddus College…
Now, be kind enough to explain to me how all of the bridges and
roads and various centers had to be built somewhere, so they might
as well be in WVA. And why did they require federal dollars instead
of state dollars?
Sorry, Byrd is more than just a symptom of a greater problem. The
"everybody is doing it" excuse is both morally worthless and
factually incorrect given the exceptional quantity of Byrd related
earmarks. The last thing we need is to have Byrd in charge of the
Senate Appropriations Committee.
Maybe Pelosi considers Harman too powerful, given Harman's aerospace and military connections. Is this the congressional version of "Meerkat Manor" and the family matriarch Flower?
Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible
Manufacturing? WTF is that?
I think it has something to do with the design and manufacture of
birth control devices.
Wow,
You through out amateur Porkers and got the real thing...
Brilliant...
Absolutely Brilliant...
And, while fighting a war. Wow, the opportunities for pork during
wartime are amazing. We'll start backing the troops by condemning
waterfront property for casinos and government buildings!
Martin Said:
"Seriously, anyone, would you not think your Sen or Rep is doing
the right thing steering projects to their district?"
Check out the voting record of Representative Jeff Flake from
Arizona. This Republican votes no on almost every single federal
spending bill. No pork for his district.
Well said Radley. I'm just catching up on the these remarkable developments having been without internet access for the crucial three days and I had a similar take in my initial analysis, which is available here at the Detroit News.
I'm glad they did
If you're going to whine, please go for it, but please don't
posture.
It's really unattractive.
Wow,
You through out amateur Porkers and got the real thing...
Brilliant...
Absolutely Brilliant...
The previous bunch were amateur Porkers? Come again?
You know, I'm fairly savvy about politics, but I couldn't tell you about a single piece of pork "brought home" by the Florida Congressional delegation. With notable exceptions like the constituents of Byrd and Stevens, I bet that most voters don't know the specifics of the porkfest they are receiving. Granted, the money folks back home do know, but that means that pork-obtaining doesn't directly get votes, it just gets electoral largess. Which makes the whole mess worse, in some respects.
Pro Libertate, I recently read a list of earmark appropriations
for Florida, and an impressive amount of them were for renovating
interchanges. I doubt Florida is anywhere near the worst state for
earmarks, but it's not completely devoid.
And of course no one could possibly think that Democrats have the
lock on earmarkers: Trent Lott and Ted Stevens are notable. Lott at
least has put in earmarks for Navy projects the Navy not only
didn't ask for, but didn't want. The
wall of shame has a substantial number of Republicans on
it.
I still think the GOP needed to lose this election. And I'm
glad they did. But supporting the Dems in the election doesn't mean
we give them a pass now that they've won.
See if David Weigel will say the same thing so I can sleep
easier.
and right beside the highways are shacks brimming with
toothless and pregnant women.
Sounds like the road by my house.
Slartibartfast,
I wasn't at all suggesting that Florida lacked its share of bacon;
rather, I was noting that I couldn't tell you which politician got
what little piece of the pork for me. I'm sure that's true for the
vast majority of voters. But, as I said before, the interest groups
(the "little guy" versions and the corporate ones) surely do know,
and award funds and endorsements accordingly.
Nice job on the fjords, by the way.
Has Mollohan been convicted of anything? If the allegations
proved to be unfounded, I don't see why he should lose his
committee seat.
You gotta be shittin' me, right?
I think if a Congressman replaces the roll of toilet paper
the wrong way that he should be expelled.
Hey, I have high standards!
I would like to just get it out there before anyone else does
(haa!) that I predict that a Democratic victory will be a bit like
rubbing salt into the wounds for us libertarian minded folks. To
wit:
George Bush and his Republican congress have, by all proper
accounts added a ton of new handles of power for the Democrats to
start fiddling with. Item: No Child Left Behind Act. The act of
Federal Government expansion expressly put into place by Bush, and
much vilified by Democrats as taking away autonomy from local
schools. Reversal by the Dems? I think not. I submit that they'll
embrace the NCLB program as a great premise, make some minor tweaks
which will be called "reforms" and then they'll add a heap of new
Federal dollars that the Bush administration failed to provide to
the local shool systems to help them cope with the mandates that
NCLB created. The "reforms" will be slight increase of local school
autonomy, freedom to spend Federal dollars how they see fit, and
fewer strings attached, but an overall EXPANSION of the program.
For the rest of the expanded powers of the government that is
Federal? Wash, rinse, repeat.
Patriot Act: a neat way to scrutinize anti-abortion activists
Illegal wiretapping: See Patriot Act
Federal Scrutiny of bank accounts: Get those pesky tax-evaders--
someone's sellin' something on E-bay, and we want our cut.
The list goes on.
Paul,
Which is why we all fear "bipartisanship". Bush could get even more
spend-happy to get "compassionate" points. If he goes that route,
the only hope will be a rebirth (or birth) of a limited government
philosophy in the GOP members of the Senate. Which I doubt
seriously will happen.
So we're all doomed.
As the only newspaper columnist in West Virginia to take on Byrd
in 25 years, I think you confuse earmarking with corruption.
When the crap is settled, Byrd ranks No. 81 among the 100 senators
when it comes to net worth. You buy a house in the DC area, it
appreciates.
By the way, naming things after living pols dates to naming the
Metrodome after HHH shortly after he caught cancer. According to
Byrd's letter to the editor of a few years back, I'm not allowed to
drive on any Byrd highway. That greatly limits my travel in this
state :)
Derrick | November 10, 2006, 11:40am | #
I lived in WV for a while, down the street from a federal facility
which researched the reproduction of the fruit fly. I don't
remember whether it had Byrd's name on it, but pretty much
everything else did.
Derrick, I assume your subtext is something on the order of "why
does the fed gov care about fruit fly sex"? it does sound
ridiculous when put that way, but if one understands how science
works, studying reproduction in fruit flies allows us to understand
reproduction in other, more complex organisms, including and
especially ourselves
thanks to fruit fly studies, we have substantially increased our
understanding of cell and DNA replication, inheritance of genes,
including those responsible for genetic diseases, evolution, and
how genes control embryonic development
OK, as one of the few people here who has actually spent some time at the "Byrd House" out in the boondocks in WV but not too far from DC (a/k/a the National Conservation Training Center), let me tell you what I saw there: high speed internet in every dorm room, Gustav Stickley furniture all over the place (including the on-site bar over which presides a taxidermy mount of a world class Tule Elk from the Pac NW), a first class cafeteria serving great food that was never more than 1/4 full, massively constructed buildings that have few labels of any kind, conference rooms with all the latest electronic communication doo-hickeys, stern faced and well-armed security guys, access by road and river, etc. In other words, everything a group of high-placed gov't officials might need if they had to skee-daddle out of town during an emergency like, oh I don't know, 9/11. I don't think they built that place for a bunch of GS-11's to learn about counting duck turds. Know what I mean?
Saying Byrd's pork is no problem because it would just have been
someone else's pork is the sort of nonsense that supports this
theft-at-the-government's-gunpoint as an ongoing and growing
problem. There's no rule that our budget needs to be packed with
this garbage. We could actually *gasp* reduce debt, or lower taxes,
or refund people their overtaxed money.
The whole point here is that Byrd's behavior (for which he has
legislative immunity and cannot be prosecuted under US law)
exacerbates a trend toward ignoring the purpose of government and
the limitations its authors thought they had left in place before
they were interpreted away by the judicial branch. Expecting either
major party to fix this problem requires misplaced faith. However,
it's a problem whose solution requires some discussion before we
find the erosion of enforceable limits on government lunacy has
completely evaporated and we might as well not have a
constitution.
After all: it could be worse.
Chris S.:
I specifically did NOT make the "everybody is doing it"
excuse.
No doubt Mr Byrd has accumulated a long list of places named after
him. I don't know about most of them and anyway, my point was not
to defend this or that pork barrel project. My point is still that,
if people think it's a waste of money, then go after the system and
change it to less pork or no pork or whatever. Going after just
Sen. Byrd is merely symbolic feel-good besides looking rather
mean-spirited. It changes nothing. The same money will just go
elsewhere. I thought the goal was cutting spending, not cutting
down people?
It is my opinion that we've had way to many feel-good, symbolic
policies in the past. Anything goes but substantive reform.
Cutting pork should be one reform, doing away with the totally
dishonest, devious and undemocratic way of attaching unrelated
items to legislation, just to guarantee their stealthy passage is
another one high on my list. A reform of the Speakers' powers might
be worth looking at. But that's a discussion for another time.
Martin,
No offense buddy but your insight is about as brilliant as every
Mayor and County Commissioner who thinks a tax on hotels and rental
cars gets everyone else to pay for their pet project. Repeat after
me, TINSTAAFL.
I couldn't tell you about a single piece of pork "brought home"
by the Florida Congressional delegation.
It may not be that much these days but I think Bill Nelson is about
as cozy with NASA as anybody.
If only the right people were in charge!
Snicker.
Earmark reform and Paygo are two of the items in the First 100
Hours program. Putting in system to check abusive porking is far
more important that replacing individual Congressmen. It's no
coincidence that earmarks exploded at the same time the Republicans
abandoned the budget rules from 91 and 93.
If there are solid rules in place to prevent monstrosities like the
earmarks on the highway bill, it won't matter who chairs the Ways
and Means Committee.
Until today, I thought that the libertarians' votes for gridlock
were an ill-advised but understandable risk to chastise
Republicans. The GOP has given lip-service to small government for
years, and some have actually supported it (I'm from NH, and our
representatives have been very good on that score over the years).
Smacking them seemed deserved, but tactically wrong to me.
Now this column and comments suggest that many libertarians voted
this way because the actually believed they could hold the
Democrats accountable enough, and that the leftie blogs would help.
That is just sadly delusional. You will now see power politics,
backroom deals, and complete disregard for the party rank-and-file
start up again. Pelosi will absolutely appoint who she wants,
knowing that after a few days of bad press it will die down and
she'll have her guy in place. Any complaints will be put down to
the "right-wing smear machine (RWSM)."
Don Surber, point taken, but lack of corruption in that sense does
not equal honor. Goebbels kept track of the mileage to reimburse
the Reich when he took his aged mother out for rides in the car
Sunday afternoons, because he thought it was dishonest and immoral
to have perks from working for the govt. Big whoop.
Earmark reform and Paygo are two of the items in the First
100 Hours program. Putting in system to check abusive porking is
far more important that replacing individual
Congressmen.
Agreed and agreed. I'll believe it, however, only when it passes to
my satisfaction.
Hear, hear! This is the kind of bipartisanship I'm all for. If she's serious about wanting to be the most open, honest, ethical, etc. Congress ever, these people need to be off key committees ASAP.
Assistant Village Idiot:
Hmm, bringing up Göbbels. And this has what to do with Sen.
Byrd?
Instapundit is a tard. Buyer's remorse? With Abramoff, Ney, Cunningham, Delay, Foley, Frist, and Sensenbrenner on the Republican side?
snikcer. You're funny.
The Democrats are a fundamentally corrupt party. All you need to do
is think about the whole "Living Constitution' BS (translation:
when we can't win elections, Judges should rewrite the laws in our
favor, anyway) to realize that. They are also the party of big
government (which means, by its very nature, corrupt
government).
You wanted tehm to win, now you get the results. Enjoy!
333: If you trade a old, stale tuna sub for an all-up shit sandwich, then yes buyer's remorse IS possible... for non-idiots, that is.
martin, don't try to twist what I've said. The point is that an overall immoral character can nonetheless not use position for profit. Thus, the argument in Byrd's favor that he has not personally profitted from the abuse of government position is not impressive to me. Sometimes Nazi figures are used as excellent examples of extremes, with no intent to use them as comparisons.
Paul,
Ditto. If Pelosi and Reid back out from their commitments to bring
this mess under control, they need to be slapped upside the
head.
And I will guaran-damn-tee that the lefty blogosphere will be on
board for that. Sites like Kos slap around corrupt Democrats all
the time.
Ditto. If Pelosi and Reid back out from their commitments to
bring this mess under control, they need to be slapped upside the
head.
Uh, joe, you made a mistake: That should read "When", not
"If".
And I will guaran-damn-tee that the lefty blogosphere will be
on board for that. Sites like Kos slap around corrupt Democrats all
the time.
I like reading joe's comments today. They give new meaning to the
term "childlike faith".
I also predict many -- if not all -- libertarians will be sorely
disappointed by this crop of Democrats. While I can't dispute the
Republicans deserved an ass-whupping for their big-spending ways,
it didn't make a lick of sense to replace them with Democrats,
people who are openly committed to expanding
government.
The Republicans at least say they want smaller government.
The Democrats don't even pretend to try.
Oh, and one more thing, joe:
It's no coincidence that earmarks exploded at the same time the
Republicans abandoned the budget rules from 91 and 93.
If you will consult your history book, you will find that the
Republicans did not officially take control of either House of
Congress until January, 1995.
Those budget rules whose passing you mourn were abandoned by
Democrats.
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