Julian Sanchez | November 1, 2005
I was so busy yesterday trying to deflate the hyperbole in ThinkProgress' talking points that I probably understated the genuine badness of Alito's dissent in Doe v. Groody. I noted at the time that, while I thought TP was exaggerating just how bad the decision was, I nevertheless agreed with the majority. I'll stand by that, but probably should've emphasized more that, hyperbole notwithstanding, Alito's willingness to play it fast and loose with the specific terms of a search warrant really is genuinely troubling. Majikthise makes the case.
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Originalism for some laws and overly broad and activist intention based interpretations for others, mostly in deferring in any way possible to the executive. Can't say I'm surprised for a Bush nominee.
When is there ever any reason to strip search anybody? Particularly a minor. Has any judge actually ever issued a warrant to strip search someone?
What kind of freak gets to strip search the minors anyway? Reminds me of the dudes at the FBI whose job is to surf porn all day, the weirder the better.
How weird would that be to strip search a minor?
This is all the fault of the war on drugs. I guess my major
objection to the judges ruling is because it is part of enforcing
law the cops shouldn't be enforcing.
I guess I would not be as opposed to the strip search if the cops
were looking for a serial murderer, or some real threat to people.
The fact that they were enforcing a stupid law, and that arresting
the guy, and finding all the evidence they could ever want on or of
the strip searched minor would make absolutely not difference to
society. Absolutely no difference to the amount of drugs on the
street. The cops being as succesfull as they could ever hope to be,
would still be protecting absolutely no one.
Alito's opinion just demonstrates how corrosive the WoD has been
to our Constitution. I have a hard time seeing people of the
Founders' generation accepting a strip search of their daughter -
it just wouldn't have ever been a necessary function.
And yet, because we now have created a vast class of contraband
that is illegal per se, we must be subjected to strip searches
because this contraband could be hidden anywhere, even if we're not
suspected of being a criminal.
It certainly troubles me a great deal if Judge Alito doesn't have
the common sense to see that this was improper from a multitude of
angles.
Follow the link. It's not just the evils of the drug war at work here. Alito essentially ignores the limitations of the warrant itself and substitutes it with the cops' own affidavit. If police were allowed to search whomever they wanted to search, regardless of what a warrant allowed them to search, there would be no point to having warrants at all, and judicial oversight of the state's search power becomes meaningless.
I disagree. This issue is about a typo and nothing more. These
are precisely the types of technicalities that criminals should NOT
be protected by.
Remember, the magistrate AGREED to the affidavit. The cops could
not legally search anyone they wished, as some of you seem to
imply.
I think I'm the closest one yet to Julian's position here,
though I'm closer still to the one he expressed yesterday.
For one thing, the case was about whether or not the police lost
their qualified immunity for actions taken in the performance of
their job. That makes it a closer call than if they'd found
evidence with this search and wanted to introduce it -- almost
certainly they could not have.
For another, the police apparently wrote up the warrant themselves
and erroneously failed to include a broader definition of the
persons to be searched. We don't know whether all the police
involved had seen the actual warrant, or just the affidavit, or
what. Some of the cops' understanding of the warrant's scope may
reasonably have been inaccurate.
The search was conducted by a metermaid in a separate room
upstairs. She patted them down and had them drop their trousers,
looking at them from behind; the opinion does not indicate there
was anything more intrusive than that.
I would have ruled with the majority on this case, not with Alito.
But his opinion is not outrageous, especially given that he has to
work within the framework of existing precedent. He can't just say
"the law should be thus" and make it so.
I agree with Shelby; the cops
* asked for permission to do XY and Z (with sufficient evidence)
for their warrant
* filled out the application asking for XY
* got a warrant for XY
* did XYZ
I agree that they didn't do what the warrant said, and whether or
not the evidence would have been allowed in is another matter, but
how can anyone say they should lose their qualified immunity? They
had good-faith belief that they could perform their actions, and
given that drug raids are KNOWN to result in suspects stuffing
drugs in other people's clothes in a hope that they are not covered
by a warrant, none of this seems beyond the pale.
What bothers me is the constant blurring of "Judge A endorses X"
becase Judge A did not stop X with his/her ruling. When will people
realize that the judiciary is not another chance to change a law
that the legislature already passed, barring a constitutional
violation?
Simple version: The warrant the police GOT and the warrant the
police WANTED were two different things.
Judicial question: When it comes to applying the actual warrant, on
whose shoulders does the responsibility for executing it properly
(IE: within it's limitations) fall?
Seems an easy call: The cops were the ones who sought the warrant,
who had physical possesion of the warrant, and who have the
authority of the state and the judicial system behind them. Ergo,
they're the ones that need to READ THE DAMN WARRANT before
executing it, to ensure they adhere to it properly.
Not that I can imagine many warrants that specify strip-searching a
10 year old. Maybe a plain frisk, but strip searching?
Yeah, that decision should be frightening to you. Starting with the
potential for abuse and ending with the notion that the agents of
the state don't need to be bothered with something as trivial as to
the limits of their own power.
Morat:
Say I'm a meth dealer. Cops bust down my door; I'm sure they've got
a warrant. I stuff 8 oz of product in my 10-year-old daughter's
shorts, 'cause who'd look there?
In other words, have you thought about the incentive created by a
bright-line rule against such searches? Again, I don't think Alito
got this one right, but I don't think you do either.
Originalism for some laws and overly broad and activist
intention based interpretations for others, mostly in deferring in
any way possible to the executive. Can't say I'm surprised for a
Bush nominee.
It's no surprise that Judge Alito is apparently a big fan of
government power. Talk Left points
to this summary of Judge Alito's legal career from Legal
Intelligencer:
After a clerkship with 3rd Circuit Judge Leonard I. Garth, Alito worked as a front-line federal prosecutor in New Jersey for four years. But soon after President Ronald Reagan was elected, Alito joined the Office of the Solicitor General, staying for four years and helping to decide what position the administration would take in cases up for review by the Supreme Court.
That was followed by a three-year stint at Main Justice as a deputy assistant attorney general. In 1987, at the age of 37, Alito was appointed U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, a post he held until he was tapped in 1990 by the first President Bush to join the 3rd Circuit.
Of course Judge Alito's a big-government conservative. He spent his entire career as an advocate representing the federal government.
Morat,
Also, the heavy use of the term strip-search seems designed to
elicit an emotional response, rather than a logical one. yes, she
dropped her pants. But this description from the opinion
the female officer removed both Jane and Mary Doe to an upstairs bathroom. They were instructed to empty their pockets and lift their shirts. The female officer patted their pockets. She then told Jane and Mary Doe to drop their pants and turn around.
doesn't exactly seem like she was stripped naked in front of
hooting cops.
And I am very scared by your "Not that I can imagine many warrants
that specify strip-searching a 10 year old." This is troubling, to
me. "We can't search children! It's not right! Even if drug
suspects are known to stuff drugs in their kids' clothes as a way
to avoid being caught, we just CAN'T." What about baby carriages?
Strollers? Diapers?
Try this: **The warrant SHOULD have asked for a search of all on
the premises, child or adult. The evidence gathered supported such
a search. The application didn't have a checkbox checked.
Therefore, the police owe the girl 10 million. **
I don't buy that, myself.
Shelby,
You're missingthe main point. IF the warrant had authorized a
search of all persons present then there wouldn't be an issue here.
But the warrant did not give that authority, instead Alito took it
upon himself to mind read the issuing judge's thinking, saying well
of couse the judge would have approved searching everyone there. Of
course there was nothing in the record as to what the judge
actually thought of the warrant.
Alito went beyond the four corners of the warrant itself to excuse
police overreaching, and that it the problem here - not some bright
line rule against strip searching 10 year old girls, as
reprehensible as that is. Furthermore as this was a no knock
warrant the possibility that John Doe would have time to gather up
his stash and hide it on his wife or daughter was very remote.
BTW, I don't speak for Shelby here, but oh YES, if I could wave
a magic libertarian wand and make the War on Drugs go away, I
would. I think it is morally wrong, abused for political purposes,
etc. I think it violates my rights as a free man to choose what I
do with my body. I think the DARE T shirts are stupid.
My above posts are to current law, and an analysis of the police
officers' liability.
Fledermaus
Doesn't the record say that the affidavit contained that info? You
are making it about "the judge's state of mind" but I thought the
analysis was on the cops state of mind and good-faith belief.
The cops asked for it several times in the affidavit, they couldn't
fit it into a box on a form, they thought they had
permission.
This is not a Elian Gonzales raid into a pre-school, people.
And the no-knock warrant stopping the hiding of drugs is
conjecture, at best! That would assume the suspects wouldnt have
seen or known the cops were coming, that they were all in plain
view of the cops when the door opened, and that no one could have
ducked or gone around a corner before stopped. Maybe in a fantasy
world, but ask a cop who does a no-knock: total control of the
situation is not immediate.
What about the random bag searches conducted last night during
trick or treat?
What, you didn't hear of them? Don't you people read the Onion?
BTW it just occured to me if you are going to have a nickname, "Strip Search Sammy" is about the coolest nickname, specially as it is meant to be derogative.
Doesn't the record say that the affidavit contained that
info?
Daniel,
When the police want a search warrant they have to show that they
have probable cause that contraband is likely to be found for every
person or place to be searched. Most often police submit affidavids
of things they know that support probable cause. That's what the
affidavidt here is, the police request - that does not mean that
they will get a warrant for everywhere/everyone that they are
saking for.
All search warrants must identify, in the words of the 4th
amendment, "The place to be searched and the persons or things to
be siezed" here, if you read the majority opinion in Doe
it is clear that the warrant only stated that Doe was the only
person to be searched. No matter what the affidavidt said, it is
the warrant that grants the authority for the search and, as the
majority notes, the police clearly exceeded that authority.
Arguments of 'good faith belief' fall by the wayside when a simple
reading of the warrant, which appartently had a section for persons
to be searched, did not include a phrase such as 'and all persons
on the premesis.' Look, what Alito did here was go past what the
warrant authorized and did so on the most flimsy of rationales.
While I'm at it, "all persons on the premesis" warrants are a gray area and many states don't allow them unless there are special circumstances, police testimony about a general habit of drug dealers to hide them on family memebers, without more might have been knocked out by the judge issuing the warrant. I'm not saying that police intended to mislead the judge, but it is not totally improbable.
BTW, that Alito ad is rather humorous. Is it done by the same folks who did the Meiers ad? :)
"Follow the link. It's not just the evils of the drug war at
work here."
Unforunately for you, it is. As I noted, such tactics would never
have crossed the minds of those in the founders' generation - there
would have been no need.
Fast forward 200 years and you'll read SCOTUS (and posters here)
stating how such searches are necessary, otherwise there would be
no ability to enforce the WoD. The reasoning is completely
backwards, as usual. Not only is the WoD unconstitutional from the
git-go as exceeding Congress's power, it has completely perverted
what was considered proper search procedure, because now, in order
to prosecute the WoD, it's necessary to do things that weren't
necessary before.
As for the link, I read it, and yes, the point is Alito decided
that cops get a freebie when they forget to do their job properly
(read the damn warrant BEFORE you do the search!). But if you don't
understand the context of how our law got to be so twisted and
flipped on its head, you'll fail to understand why someone who
claims to be an originalist can be so wrong.
The Scalia, Rhenquists, et al have long viewed the 4th as nothing
more than an unneccesary roadblock to the good intentions of cops
and prosecutors everywhere. So they riddle it with non-textual and
non-historical exceptions so as not to unduly burden these well
meaning politicians and government bureaucrats. Alito, and yes,
Roberts as well, will fit comfortably into this mold.
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