Matt Welch | October 24, 2005
I live about a trillion miles from Washington, D.C., but it sure seems like someone blew the Beltway Dog Whistle, instructing all the little yappers that it's now safe to say "Oh, I never really liked that Bush fellow anyway."
With Patrick Fitzgerald preparing his (we presume) indictments, it's now the Week of the Long Knives, where Poppy Bush's best pal Brent Scowcroft tries to outdo Lawrence Wilkerson in the blade-plunging department while Bush lashes out at Cheney, the White House prepares for turnover, the 2,000th U.S. soldier prepares to die in Iraq and Richard Holbrooke snickers ruefully in the Washington Post.
Now we can expect a festival of Clinton-impeachment switcheroos, with Dems learning to love perjury traps while Republicans ditch the "rule of law"; and everyone trades places on the wisdom of having a sitting president testify in a civil suit. Coming up: Besieged complaints about the vast left-wing conspiracy, and true-believer laments that the president's detractors "refuse to accept the results of the election." Good times.
Over at the New York Times it's a fearful foursome on top of Judy Miller, with Editor Bill Keller, Ombudsman Byron Calame and even reluctant, steak-buying Pinch Sulzberger trying (and failing) to outscratch Maureen Dowd, as Little Miss Run Amok pens desperate little notes of dismayal.
But the real sign that the winds have changed came with my morning coffee, as I read Niall Ferguson -- he of the "America! Embrace your inner empire!" argument -- wash his hands with this sentence. "By definition [Bush] is replaceable, in 2008 if not before."
If not before! At least Ferguson, unlike the vast majority of the conservative pilers-on, found it within his vast intellect and moral conviction to arrive at Bush skepticism before another kind of Beltway Dog Whistle blew way back in those distant days of November 2004.
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Scowcroft was saying this stuff in 2002.
I'm still agin' making sitting presidents testify in civil suits.
Wait until he leaves office fer crissakes.
joe,
I'm still agin' making sitting presidents testify in civil
suits.
Why? Justice delayed is justice denied.
I live about a trillion miles from Washington,
D.C.
These days, that is considered a reasonable commute for those who
work in D.C.
As far as Bush II goes, it's all just typical second-term rot, as
far I'm concerned. Sometime about a year from now, the media will
change its focus to the 2008 race, and much of this Beltway
fingerpoke-to-the-eye shit will be forgotten. At that point Bush
can start issuing large numbers of dubious pardons, attend daily
fundraisers, spend more time in Crawford, and appoint Miss Beazley
to the Supreme Court.
No kidding, Kevin.
A foursome on top of Miller? Now that's an image I did not need to
start my week.
It's encouraging, but I won't be satisfied until W and Rummy are convicted of war crimes.
Matt,
You no longer need to wait about complaints of a left-wing
conspiracy. Byron York jumped the gun and already wrote a
book on the subject.
I am all for impeachment of GWB, mostly on the grounds that he
sucks really bad at his job. But I would not consider it right for
Congress-members to try and impeach him if that was clearly not
what the American people wanted.
Clearly, though it would be best if Bush did not drag the country
through all of this (another 3 years with an embarassing President)
and just stepped down.
I am all for impeachment of GWB, mostly on the grounds that
he sucks really bad at his job.
Sadly, this is one of the things that is clearly *not* an
impeachable offense under the US Constitution (or was that yr
point?).
Dave W.,
Heh. Anything is an impeachable offense if you got the votes in the
House to send his arse to a Senate trial. That's one of the core
areas of the Congress' powers after all, and thus the federal
courts are very, very unlikely to intervene in such an affair
because of that fact.
More seriously, it wouldn't be very difficult to find Bush's
version of a violation of the Tenure in Office Act if the political
situation were such that people wanted him out because he simply
sucks, etc.
More seriously, it wouldn't be very difficult to find Bush's
version of a violation of the Tenure in Office Act if the political
situation were such that people wanted him out because he simply
sucks, etc.
I didn't know about this, if this laws says what you imply it says
then it sounds like a violation of the "high crimes &
misdemeanors" provision that we got all knotted up in in '99.
I think Hakluyt is referring to the grounds for President Andrew
Johnson's impeachment.
Yes, Hak, I have read a history book... ;-)
crimethink,
Johnson tossed a cabinet member in violation of that Act (the sort
of law in question was found later to be unconstitutional in
question - in the late 1920s) which gave the House the pretext to
impeach Johnson. Of course Johnson wouldn't have been impeached if
the general political environment of D.C. wasn't so sour and so
many Congress critters thought he was shit.
crimethink,
Then again, Dave W. is a Canadian, so its not surprising that he
knows shit about U.S. history.
crimethink-
I tried sending you an email last week. I don't know if you got it
or not. The email address shown on this post is real if you take
out the part about spam.
thoreau,
Heh. I sent you an e-mail last week too and got no response. Don't
you love me anymore? :->
It so nice to see the part of Law and Order go all soft on crime
on us.
On the other hand, Eric the .5th pointed out before that Lawrence
Wilkonson, Powell's chief of staff said in his much ballyhooed
speech:
Well, Saddam Hussein really cared about deterring the Persians
� the Iranians � and his own people.� He didn�t give a hang about
us except on occasion.� And so he had to convince those audiences
that he still was a powerful man.� So who better to do that through
than the INC, Ahmad Chalabi and his boys, and by spoofing our eyes
in the sky and our little HUMINT, and the Brits and the French and
the Germans, too.� That�s all I can figure.�
�
The consensus of the intelligence community was overwhelming.� I
can still hear George Tenet telling me, and telling my boss in the
bowels of the CIA, that the information we were delivering � which
we had called considerably � we had called it very much � we had
thrown whole reams of paper out that the White House had created.�
But George was convinced, John McLaughlin was convinced that what
we were presented was accurate.� And contrary to what you were
hearing in the papers and other places, one of the best
relationships we had in fighting terrorists and in intelligence in
general was with guess who?� The French.� In fact, it was probably
the best.� And they were right there with us.�
�
In fact, I�ll just cite one more thing.� The French came in in the
middle of my deliberations at the CIA and said, we have just spun
aluminum tubes, and by god, we did it to this RPM, et cetera, et
cetera, and it was all, you know, proof positive that the aluminum
tubes were not for mortar casings or artillery casings, they were
for centrifuges.� Otherwise, why would you have such exquisite
instruments?� We were wrong.� We were wrong.�
So Miller was reporting the consensus? The horror!
As a side note, it's kind of surprising to see the chief-of-staff
of the Sec. of State of a Republican administration make this
accurate assessment:
There are a number of reasons why I believe that this is
strategic in a sense that Vietnam was not.� Vietnam was a
misinterpretation, in my view, of a Cold War side battle that
really wasn�t a Cold War side battle except in a superficial
aspect.� It really was a civil war.� And the French misinterpreted,
because of their colonial remnants, and we misinterpreted it
because of our fixation on the Cold War, although I have some very
provocative opinions about what we could have done in Vietnam if
we�d stuck it out too.� Nonetheless, Vietnam was not something that
when we left, however with honor or without, we were going to have
to revisit 10 years later because it was so strategic.� I think
Iraq is.
fwiw, raimondo -- who seems well sourced in all this, to judge
by his prescience on a number of things -- claims to solve the
motive mystery that kept me wondering about why the vice president
would risk so much to nail joe wilson's wife. revenge in hubris can
be a powerful force for delusion, but still?
now it seems that perhaps plame's cia undercover outfit was about
to discover that members of cheney's neocon cabal -- specifically,
michael ledeen -- had forged the niger yellowcake documents
themsleves.
if you're keeping track, that means the veep's klansmen not only
stovepiped all manner of unvetted, cherrypicked "intelligence" to
the president to build a ridiculous case to invade iraq -- they
also simply outright defrauded the president (?) and the people (!)
when even that faux evidence wasn't belligerent enough for their
bloody minds -- and continued to break any and all laws to try to
hide their treasonous behavior in engineering a war for little more
than their own personal gratification.
treason -- not the talk-radio ann-coulter variety, but real, honest
to god, benedict arnold treason. god help them now.
gaius,
To which enemies of the United States did Cheney et al give aid and
comfort?
Not to defend what they did (if they did indeed do what you accuse
them of), but let's not throw around the T-word lightly...
we were going to have to revisit 10 years later because it
was so strategic
this falsely presumes, mr k, that we make anything better by doing
so. truly, i consider that our strategic interests would be best
served by tying our hands behind our back.
we've proved a horrific imperial manager in our mideastern proxies,
i fear.
To which enemies of the United States did Cheney et al give
aid and comfort?
iran, it would seem to me. whether cheney intended to or not, what
he precipitated in iraq is a priceless boon to iran -- unless, of
course, it's all merely a stepping stone to another war of conquest
with the iranians.
and would that truly exornerate him?
you might also cross-reference to the aipac prosecution to get
another answer, depending on which foreign powers you consider to
be an enemy of the state.
So if the US govt. has repeatedly proven itself to be an enemy of liberty. And Iran is the enemy of the US govt. Does that mean that by the "Enemies enemy transmutation principal" that Iran is a friend of liberty?
Whew, gaius, that is truly off the deep end.
You think Dick Cheney is a deep cover agent for the Iranian
ayatollahs?
Or do you (mistakenly) believe that treason and "aid and comfort"
can be based upon unintended and incidental side effects of a given
policy? Treason is a crime with a very specific mens rea.
You think Dick Cheney is a deep cover agent for the Iranian
ayatollahs?
no, i think he aided and abetted without intending to. his office,
caught in its own hubris, was used embarassingly by chalabi and the
iranians. does that exonerate him?
Treason is a crime with a very specific mens rea.
i'll actually cite free
republic to refute you, as laughable as that is, mr dean.
The idea that an individual can be convicted of the crime of treason only if there is treasonous intent or *mens rea* runs contrary to the concept of strict liability crimes. That doctrine (Park v United States, (1974) 421 US 658,668) established the principle of 'strict liability' or 'liability without fault' in certain criminal cases, usually involving crimes which endanger the public welfare.
even beyond that -- treason is a crime against a false god that
needs only great public passion to yield conviction. it's a
religious charge, like heresy, whatever pixiedust fantasies anyone
might like to believe about the cold rationality of people under
law (especially now). actual intent can't ever truly be delineated
and barely matters in such cases. if cheney could be painted with
plausible intent, he'd be nailed to the cross to avenge his sins
against the holy state.
Those assholes in DC need a good snowstorm to remind them it isn't August anymore.
US v Park deals with the strict (statutory) liability
of a corporation's managers for the conduct of a corporation which
was in breach of its statutory requirements under the Federal
Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
unsurprisingly, no one other than freepers have found the case to
have any application to the law of treason, since treason is not,
by statute (or otherwise) a strict liability offence, unlike FFDCA
violations.
Haupt v US 330 US 631 (1947) makes clear that to
successfully prosecute treason, proof must be adduced of the
accused (1) having committed acts which aided/comforted an enemy,
and (2) having committed the acts in (1) for the purpose of
aiding/comforting the enemy.
while i wouldn't agree that treason has a "very specific mens rea",
it is true nonetheless that the crime is not committed unless the
act was done with the knowledge or understanding of it being
treasonable.
unsurprisingly, no one other than freepers have found the
case to have any application to the law of treason
agreed, mr snuh. i'm sure that cheney won't be charged with treason
vis a vis iran.
Goddamn Gayus, what are you smoking?
however, mr kwais, it isn't as if cheney isn't an amoral criminal
of the highest order who deserves prison or worse for what he and
his offices are perpetrating upon the american people. i'm saying
that, while no one will be charged with treason, the nature of his
high crimes could be made to fit the bill.
the
ny times reports this morning that it was cheney told libby of
plame's identity. one can only hope that fitzgerald has evidence
enough to crucify the lawless son of a bitch.
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