Tim Cavanaugh | May 19, 2005
If you can't get enough science fiction-related excogitation today, and you're not yet ready to join the Cult of Admiral Piett (the ruthless but strangely likeable Imperial Fleet officer played in a record-setting two Star Wars films by Ken Russell regular Kenneth Colley), you will certainly be encouraged by this snippet from a review of Kazuo Ishiguro's Never Let Me Go by highly regarded (or is that mildly retarded?) book critic James Wood:
Works of fantasy or science fiction that also succeed in literary terms are hard to find, and are rightly to be treasured — Hawthorne's story "The Birthmark" comes to mind, and H.G. Wells's The Time Machine, and some of Karel Capek's stories. And just as one is triumphantly sizing up this thin elite, one thinks correctively of that great fantasist Kafka, or even of Beckett, two writers whose impress can be felt, perhaps surprisingly, on Kazuo Ishiguro's new novel. And how about Borges, who so admired Wells? Or Gogol's "The Nose"? Or The Double? Or Lord of the Flies? A genre that must make room for Kafka and Beckett and Dostoevsky is perhaps no longer a genre but merely a definition of writing successfully; in particular, a way of combining the fantastic and the realistic so that we can no longer separate them, and of making allegory earn its keep by becoming indistinguishable from narration itself...
Given that Ishiguro's new novel is explicitly about cloning, that it is, in effect, a science fiction set in the present day, and that the odds against success in this mode are bullyingly stacked, his success in writing a novel that is at once speculative, experimental, and humanly moving is almost miraculous.
Indeed, one wonders what's really on the embarrassingly fawned-upon critic's mind with that line about "bullyingly stacked."
Why is this encouraging? Because in an era of universal hipness and widely distributed self-awareness, it's heartening to see somebody who still thinks he's impressing people when he does this kind of pompous throat-clearing. You could, of course, take him to task for a view of literature in which the works of Philip K. Dick, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Frankenstein, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, and maybe a few other books by H.G. Wells (I hear he has a few good ones) all fail to measure up as literature. You might also savor that precious "some of" that modifies "Karel Capek's stories." (Even in praise, Wood is never less than judiciously measured.)
But why bother? The real question is, on what fucking planet does this kind of dismissal of a literary genre still impress anybody? And why are there so few people who recognize James Wood for the utter and obvious fake he is? At any rate, it's good to know this kind of flimflammery is still possible.
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Mervyn Peake's "Gormenghast" Trilogy.
Edgar Allan Poe.
E.T.A. Hoffman.
James Branch Cabell's "Jurgen".
Homer and Virgil
Shakespeare ("Midsummer Night's Dream")
Italo Calvino and Marquez.
Kurt Vonnegut.
Tim, you only linked to Admiral Piett's fanclub so you could get
more people to join, hence giving you promotions, didn't you?
Here's another great SF writer: Stanislaw Lem
If you're tallying up a list of great sf novels, don't forget Philip K. Dick's lost collaboration with Anne McCaffrey.
Tim, you only linked to Admiral Piett's fanclub so you could
get more people to join, hence giving you promotions, didn't
you?
Hey, instead of questioning my motives, why aren't you exploring
some of the many ways you can do good work with the Piett fan club,
increase your annual income, and have a heck of a lot of fun doing
it! If you're ready for a brighter future, the Piett fan club is
for you! You'll have to get ten members to join the network, and it
may be up to 18 months before you see results, but once the profits
start rolling in, you won't believe it! Before I joined Piett, my
self-esteem was in the dumps. I was a typical "fat boy," shy around
women and uncomfortable with who I was. Since joining Piett, I've
lost 50 pounds and become financially independent! I've made some
amazing new friends among the club members. In the fall, I met the
girl of my dreams, and we're going to be married this year! But
don't take my word for it, see for yourself! Bet on Piett!
Lowdog: Joshing, though the wags at Revolution SF originally posted that in their "news" section, rather than "humor," just to see how many people they could fool.
I just finished 'the three stigmata of Palmer Eldritch' by Philip K Dick, and have to say anyone who denies the brilliance of this author is off base. I hadn't dipped my toes in the intimidating 'sci-fi/fantasy' section in many years, now I need more! MORE!
I don't know anything about this James Wood character, but I
suspect that entertaining the notion that he's going to leave
behind his old-school critical ideas about any kind of genre
fiction is about the same as expecting Fred Mertz is going to light
up a joint next time you watch I Love Lucy.
Down that road lies madness.
De gustibus non est disputandum, dear Tim. Wood is a bit more than mildly retarded but so is every other poor schmuck who bothers their head about literature.
Note how Wood slags off Tom Wolfe for writing books "with a lot
of plot." SF and Fantasy, along with detective/crime fiction, and
even the western, tend to be plot-heavy. My decades-old reflex
about contemporary "literary" fiction, that any given volume chosen
at random will be written by an English professor about the inner
life of an English professor, struggling with a bad marriage and
boinking a grad student, may be its own kind of prejudice, but
sterotypes often have a basis in fact.
There's also that curious phenomenon in publishing, that if a genre
writer is popular enough he "breaks out" into the mainstream, and
of a sudden his books are reshelved in the bookstores, and switched
from the genre imprint to the house's main catalog. (Examples:
Stephen King , Neal Stephenson, even Ray Bradbury.) If everytime
someone from the ghetto succeeds you redraw the boundaries, or find
them a nice house in the best part of town, by definition the
genres won't produce work of worth.
I'm going to steal somebody else's sig:
The head of the English department asked me, "Do you read any
crap?"
And I said, no, in that insufferable high school manner, no
doubt.
And he said, "You need to read more crap."
The point was to read more for entertainment and for fun. -
Gail Simone
Kevin
I recently read 'A Canticle for Leibowitz' and I really liked it, I'm not really sure if that adds to the discussion, just thought I'd throw that out there
The smartest discussion of this topic is in the writings of Samuel R. Delany (Silent Interviews is a good place to start). He points to the folly of making the comparison in the first place.
So, has Ishiguro been influenced by Niven's
Gil Hamilton stories?
carabinieri linked to a blog where someone thinks
that a book dealing with organlegging, set in an alternate past, is
somehow not science fiction. I guess one can always try to
call a table a chair, if it makes one feel better.
Kevin
Haruki Murakami?
Spider Robinson?
Philip K. Dick?
And what's that guy's name...oh, yeah...
Robert Fucking Heinlein?
coupla items here. first, this blog consistently sports the best
discussion post subtitles around.
second, Canticle for Leibowitz was an outlandish novel. highly
enjoyable. the notion of that monk carrying the shopping list off
to rome only to be slaughtered needlessly by some mutants...well,
gee.
believe my man (walter miller? can't remember) killed hisself after
writing that one
"I'm still trying to figure out what "succeed in literary terms"
means."
My guess - anything that is not "escapist", but deals with
contemporary human problems in some way. Thus, Orwell and Huxley
would be considered successful in "literary terms" because their
works comment on modern society via a science fictional plot. Same
with Mikhail Bulgakov's "Master and Margarita", where the devil and
his retinue come to Moscow. Same with "A Handmaid's Tale" (I
remember the resistance I encountred when I tried to convince
someone that was science fiction).
This is why H.G. Wells' "Time Machine" would count as having
"literary merit", because it comments on problems of class.
"I'm still trying to figure out what "succeed in literary terms"
means."
I like Mr. Borok's take on the phrase, but I think there's another
definition.
A book succeeds in literary terms when the reader is able to
appreciate the quality of the writing itself. If you've ever
watched a master craftsman at work - a wood carver or stonemason
for example - there's a certain aesthetic pleasure in watching the
labor itself. Even if the lump of wood still just looks like a lump
of wood, the grace and expertise with which a true expert can work
it is enjoyable. So it's not just that the ultimate shape of the
sculpture is pleasing, but the process of watching the wood become
that shape.
The same is true of quality works of literature - you can
appreciate not just the characters, plot, tone, and whatnot, but
also the quality of the author's use of the written word to bring
these things into being.
Canticle for Lebowitz is a damn fine book. Very, very good and
remarkably enough, recommended to me by a Benedictine monk.
For those interested in academic examinations of science fiction as
literature (screw those snobby lit critics) check these out:
http://www.tulane.edu/~jhouston/scifi/spring2004syllabus.htm
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/agordon/IDH98.HTM
http://caxton.stockton.edu/files/ScienceFiction/syllabus.htm
http://academics.vmi.edu/gen_ed/SYLLABUS_FOR_HN_368.htm
http://helios.hampshire.edu/lspector/courses/cogscifi-syllabus.html
And so on. Crazy P. Dick seems a regular staple in all of these
courses. And deservedly so.
I'm still trying to figure out what "succeed in literary
terms" means.
Mark and Joe suggest a worthy pair of standards, but honestly, you
don't have to invoke Shakespeare - there are metric tons of plain
old SF novels published over the mere last century that meet either
or both standard. I'd even add a third, "That address the human and
moral meanings and implications of ideas and beliefs," which is
related but orthogonal to Mark's.
But I don't think any of those three standards are what James Wood
is talking about. I think his standard is simply, "can mention to
other literary critics without him/her sniffing too loudly".
I'm an English major and I always figured - I did my time, and
I'm now excused from reading "serious" literature ever again. I
mostly stick to the genres - SF, fantasy, mystery - and for some
reason, I guess because I'm a literature major and a librarian,
people are always surprised at that.
I like good old fashioned space opera - Lois Bujold's Vorkosigan
series is probably my favorite SF of all, at least so far.
But Terry Pratchett is the master. Of everything.
Vernon Vinge for the best aliens races ever, and Brion for a rollicking good time during the novels of his first two decades of writing.
Indeed, one wonders what's really on the embarrassingly
fawned-upon critic's mind with that line about "bullyingly
stacked."
The net profit for the Star Wars films and "novels", maybe?
And why are there so few people who recognize James Wood for
the utter and obvious fake he is?
A fake what? A fake reviewer of mostly Anglo-American
fiction? A fake reviewer? A fake human being? James Wood, sock
puppet? Say it ain't so!
Note that the reviewer did indeed cite The Time Machine as
an example of successful science fiction, and even helpfully
summarized his criteria for sucessful science fiction and fantasy
in the very first paragraph:
A genre that must make room for Kafka and Beckett and
Dostoevsky is perhaps no longer a genre but merely a definition of
writing successfully; in particular, a way of combining the
fantastic and the realistic so that we can no longer separate them,
and of making allegory earn its keep by becoming indistinguishable
from narration itself.
You could have explained how this was vague or incorrect, but,
nooooooo...you trotted out the f-word as if would impress anyone
outside of Holden Caufield. You might as well have written, "Oh,
poopie! How dare that nasty old fart make general
judgments of taste on a literary genre! We'll show him,
won't we, Mr. Fiddlesticks?"
"Arf, arf!"
(I also note that your link to someone "recognize(s) James Wood for
the utter and obvious fake he is" is actually a general critique of
Wood's ideas about comedy, and the author even agrees with
Wood about Tom Wolfe! You fake!)
A fake what? A fake reviewer of mostly Anglo-American
fiction? A fake reviewer? A fake human being? James Wood, sock
puppet? Say it ain't so!
A literary fake who trots out hoary prejudices in an attempt to
corner the market for a young-fogey book reviewer. A young fogey is
a perfectly legitimate thing to be. Wood's problem is that he
thinks a gesture as broad as dismissing a popular genre will make
him sound like T.S. Eliot, when in fact it just makes him sound
like Paxton
Whitehead. It's snobbery by somebody who hasn't earned the
right to be a snob.
Note that the reviewer did indeed cite The Time Machine as an
example of successful science fiction, and even helpfully
summarized his criteria for sucessful science fiction and fantasy
in the very first paragraph:
If a reviewer can only cite the handful of works Wood does as
successful examples of the fantasy/science fiction genre, the
problem is with the reviewer, not the genre. I provided a very
small number of additional examples. Other commenters have provided
many more. If Wood can't consider any of these works successful
literature, he's the one who has to make the case against
them.
"Oh, poopie! How dare that nasty old fart make general
judgments of taste on a literary genre! We'll show him, won't we,
Mr. Fiddlesticks?"
Yes, that's exactly right. Making "general judgments of taste on a
literary genre" shows only that Wood has a closed mind (and hasn't
read as much as he wants us to think he has).
(I also note that your link to someone "recognize(s) James Wood
for the utter and obvious fake he is" is actually a general
critique of Wood's ideas about comedy, and the author even agrees
with Wood about Tom Wolfe! You fake!)
Maybe that particular blogger doesn't consider Wood to be as empty
a vessel as I do (though that post was one of several where he
takes a swipe at him), but since this is one of the few examples of
any kind that I can find of somebody giving anything less than
fulsome, genuflecting praise to Wood, I think it demonstrates the
point that few people are willing to say anything critical about
Wood-I guess it's too much to hope that somebody else might
acknowledge that he is a total fraud.
And what's wrong with using the F word? I thought we were all at
ease around here.
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