Money Is Not What Schools Need

Competition is the answer.

U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan recently claimed: "Districts around the country have literally been cutting for five, six, seven years in a row. And, many of them, you know, are through, you know, fat, through flesh and into bone ... ."

Really? They cut spending five to seven consecutive years?

Give me a break!

Andrew Coulson, director of the Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom, writes that out of 14,000 school districts in the United States, just seven have cut their budgets seven years in a row. How about five years in a row? Just 87. That's a fraction of 1 percent in each case.

Duncan may be pandering to his constituency, or he may actually be fooled by how school districts (and other government agencies) talk about budget cuts. When normal people hear about a budget cut, we assume the amount of money to be spent is less than the previous year's allocation. But that's not what bureaucrats mean.

"They are not comparing current year spending to the previous year's spending," Coulson writes. "What they're doing is comparing the approved current year budget to the budget that they initially dreamed about having."

So if a district got more money than last year but less than it asked for, the administrators consider it a cut. "Back in the real world, a K-12 public education costs four times as much as it did in 1970, adjusting for inflation: $150,000 versus the $38,000 it cost four decades ago (in constant 2009 dollars)," Coulson says.

Taxpayers need to understand this sort thing just to protect themselves from greedy government officials and teachers unions.

It was on the basis of this fear and ignorance that President Obama got Congress to pass a "stimulus" bill this summer that included $10 billion for school districts. The money is needed desperately to save teachers from layoffs, the bill's advocates said. We must do it for the children!

When you look at the facts, the scam is clear.

"Over the past 40 years," Coulson writes, "public school employment has risen 10 times faster than enrollment. There are 9 percent more students today, but nearly twice as many public school employees."

But isn't it just common sense that schools would be better if they had more money? As a wise man said, it's not what we don't know that gets us into trouble; it's what we know that isn't so.

Consider the American Indian Public Charter School in Oakland, Calif. It was once a failing school, but now it's one of the best in California. Ben Chavis turned it around without any additional money. His book, Crazy Like a Fox, tells how.

He and Coulson will be guests on my FBN show tonight.

Chavis' experience exposes the school establishment's lies for what they are. Nearly all of Chavis' students are considered economically disadvantaged (98 percent qualify for free lunches), yet they have the fourth-highest test scores of any school in the state.

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  • Michael Ejercito||

    Arne Duncan obviously did not learn much in math class.

  • ||

    Arne Duncan's only contribution to society was being used as an anecdote in the amazing book Freakonomics.

  • omg||

    I'm kind of wondering how long the teacher's union is going to allow entities that outperform them to exist.

  • ||

    LOL, Americas Schools have been too dummed down. Beyond repair.

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    Who knew that privacy bot could make ironic comments like this?

  • Wegie||

    They have been dumbed down to accomodate the students.

  • ||

    Spot on as usual John. It's not the children that the NEA is worried about, it's their ever-growing ditto sheet wielding complacent constituents. Of course, politicians do what they know how to do, ask for more money - for "the kids".
    Gimme a break!

  • My Pet Coons||

    I am fine with spending more money on the kids given that they're the ones who'll be paying it back.

  • Joe M||

    Point is the money isn't being spent on the kids at all.

  • My Pet Coons||

    It was a joke.

  • Sister Mary Elephant||

    For the kids my ass! Unions skim their dues off the top and return some funds to the democrats.

    There may be individual crooks within the GOP but the democratic party is a criminal enterprise.

  • sarcasmic||

    Note to self: set dvr, FOX Business Channel, 9pm.

  • SBOD||

    America spends twice as much as other developed nations, and it gets much less in return. Wait... Where have I have heard this before?

  • ||

    The Chavis model - exclude the stupid kids and the delinquents and everyone wins! Which is true, except we still need to do something with the stupid kids and the delinquents. The real problem with American education is both left and right clinging to the notion that any kid can learn if given the chance. It's simply not true.

  • sarcasmic||

    They can if you lower the standards to the lowest common denominator.

    Remember that equal outcomes are the most important thing in the world.

    It's just not fair that smart kids learn more than dumb kids, that's education inequality.

    You're not against equality are you?

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    If there's one thing I'm absolutely against, it's equality.

    But so is everyone, we're evolutionarily wired that way.

    Always and everywhere when politicians invoke 'Equality' and 'Fairness' it means one party has figured out a way for government to give them a special advantage in the competing.

    Understanding that simple fact would save the world from immeasurable suffering.

  • Sister Mary Elephant||

    They can if you lower the standards to the lowest common denominator.

    Bingo! When I went to school for what ever reason the smart kids and dumb kids were in different classes. I was pissed my friends were all in the dumb class so I rebelled but for what ever reason I always scored high enough on their test that I was always stuck in classes with the geeks. They actually flunked students back then too. Kids who flunked and had to repeat 7th grade or what ever were brutally teased and it probably hurt their feelings therefore teach to the lowest common denominator became the norm because administrators don't like dealing with angry parents whose kids are perfect angels.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    All the more reason for them to start working, preferably for their parents, as soon as possible. Public schooling is not education, and not everyone is innately capable of absorbing an education. It's unfair but that's life. I'm a goddamned idiot myself, but I have to put food on the fucking table, so shit gets done despite my inherent problems.

  • ||

    The Chavis model - exclude the stupid kids and the delinquents and everyone wins!

    Except he's doing this to the stupid kids and delinquents who are TEACHERS:

    "I don't do no teacher evaluations. All I do is go into a class, and if the kids ain't working, your ass is fired. (Most principals) sit for hours and say, 'Is he meeting this goal, is he meeting'—I just go to class, and if the kids are not working ..."

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    Stupid kids--come up with realistic goals. Not everyone belongs in college. Those who don't can learn a trade so they can support themselves.

    Delinquents--differentiate between kids who are bored/lively/high energy vs. genuinely disruptive and aggressive. The former need stimluating class experiences, the latter, well, after a certain number of tries just write them off.

  • Wegie||

    Right you are. +5

  • Michael Ejercito||

    Which is true, except we still need to do something with the stupid kids and the delinquents.


    Why not, you know, leave them alone ?

  • Wegie||

    Let Darwin take care of them.

  • NoVAHockey||

    I enjoyed P. J. O’Rourke's take on public education from earlier this summer.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....d-them-don’t-mend-them

  • Some Dork||

    The link doesn't work.

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    Peter A is right on. My wife teaches "inclusion" classes that places students with a host of mental/learning disabilities in the same room with on level students. Would he "fire her ass" if the disabled kids aren't "working hard." It is easy to start a charter school and cut around the rules and regulations, but at that point you are comparing apples and oranges. I would hope Stossel was bright enough to realize that.

  • Bob||

    Robert H exemplifies the problem with America, everythig is terrible except the part where I am profiting so don't cut that part of the budget.

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    He also exemplifies the common belief that because I bred, you owe me several work-years of your life.

    Children deserve much more education than they now get. They deserve as much education as their parents are willing to pay for.

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    Or that their parents are willing to give them. Alas, I wish for the days when education began in the home, but now when anyone talks about that they fall into the "homeschool doesn't give kids social skills" strawman argument. The parents don't have to stay home and teach the kids for 5-8 hours a day, but they shouldn't be treating the public school system like a 12 year daycare center the way they are.

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    Agreed. And tt's horrific that parents that homeschool because the public schools are worse than useless, are forced to pay for those schools.

  • ||

    Well if you're getting into that argument, how about all the people without kids that pay for horrific public education?

    I think a public education is one of the few things that [local] government should pay for... the only problem with that is that government is involved with it, i.e. they could never do it efficiently or inexpensively.

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    As a practical matter I agree.

    As well the Constitution does not preclude redistributive legislation at the state level, and at this level it is as destructive as it has the intrinsic limit that is people are too unhappy with their government they may leave.

    I would certainly not complain much under a system with a direct subsidy for education.

    But really it's immoral to force people who have less children to subsidize those who have more although I do understand it's not the childrens' fault. There's no perfect answer.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    How about those of us who pay a shit load of cash to have their children privately educated?

    Where's the love?

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    Where did I say anything about budgets? All I said was comparing Chavis' situation and the situation where my wife teaches is apples and oranges.

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    Really, where did I say that faithkills? Obviously your own education is sorely lacking because I made no such assertion. Or perhaps you are clairvoyant?

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    Are you saying you oppose publicly funded education?

  • sarcasmic||

    My guess is that he wouldn't put the "disabled" (we called them tards when I was a boy) in the same class as the ones with fully functioning gray matter.

    Which is more unfair: the tards feewing bad about demsews becwus they can't keep up with the nomow kids, or not allowing the normal kids to work at their full potential?

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    Actually, even the 'tards are capable of "working hard" -- either the kids in your class are engaged and trying to learn, or you're running a warehouse rather than a school.

  • pmains||

    Of course. Based on Ben Chavis' commments, I am certain that he hates all disabled students. Unlike yourself, he could not possibly have the common sense to see that disabled children may have special educational needs. Thank you for your astute and relevant analysis. Please write Mr. Chavis a letter letting him know about your ground-breaking insights.

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    Robert H
    Peter A is right on. My wife teaches "inclusion" classes that places students with a host of mental/learning disabilities in the same room with on level students.


    Maybe you should tell your wife to encourage the school into splitting the students up, the way that is best for both groups. Inclusion classes sound great in theory, because it doesn't ostracize the retarded kids from interacting with other students; they can make friends, talk about common interests, and receive the feel (only bad in Florida) of the public school system. But the same way a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, a class is only as smart as its dumbest/slowest student. As a few others before me pointed out, why should the normal kids be slowed down in their educational pursuits?

    Instead of trying to lift up everyone who is below average, why don't we try to help push up everyone who is above average? As my boy Judge Smails says, "Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too."

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    Trust me, that is the model we want...state law here precludes the possibility. We are also advocating for a return to vocational education which has been eliminated due to the fact that experts think all kids are college material. I am with: we need laborers just as much as engineers.

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    The rules and regulations are the problem; following them isn't the solution, that's what got primary and secondary education into the hole they're in now.

  • Max||

    Yeah, let right-wing assholes privatize education.

  • Max||

    ARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARF!!!!!!!!!!

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    We're having this discussion because the experiment in socialized education has failed and has ruined the lives of generations.

    Progressives are commonly believed to be utilitarians, and often think of themselves as pragmatic.

    Nothing is further from the truth.

    The one thing progressives never face is the reality of the results of their policies.

    War on poverty? We have more poverty by any measure after trillions of $ spent.

    War on drugs? We have more 'drug abuse' by any measure after trillions of $ spent.

    Don't get me started on the results of government intervention in the health care market or mortgage market..

    I think what we really need is a war on planners.

  • SBOD||

    "I think what we really need is a war on planners."

    Where do I sign up? Fuck, I'd let you draft me.

  • sarcasmic||

    Progressives perceive any questioning of results as questioning their intentions, and they react with an attack.

    Question the results of the war on poverty and you are attacked for wanting people to live in poverty; question the results of the war on drugs and you are attacked for wanting people to use drugs; question the results of the Department of Education and you don't want anyone to be educated.

    "Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all.

    We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain."
    --Bastiat

  • sarcasmic||

    Bastiat wrote that in 1848 I think, and it describes what is happening today.

    Funny how some things never change.

  • Dick Fitzwell||

    If more people read and understood Bastiat..........ahhhhh there I go dreaming again.

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    I might be tempted to support compulsory education if Bastiat was mandatory reading every year.

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    Trust me, assigning non-status quo reading is murder to a teacher's career.

  • sarcasmic||

    Which is why every student should read The Law.

  • Gary S||

    ...by the entire staff as well as students!

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Max,

    Yeah, let right-wing assholes privatize education.

    I don't blame you - that's your public education talking.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Let me ask you this . . .

    In the US, are private schools better, or public?

    Thought so.

  • Max||

    I'm kidding... private education should be illegal, except for children of politicians, who are better than everyone as long as they're Democrats.

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    One of the many reasons districts have so many employees it to comply with government mandates!
    Districts have full time employees to ensure compliance with equal opportunity laws, with special needs students requirements, with special interest groups.
    They also have curriculum co-coordinators who ensure compliance with Federal and State mandated standards so that they can receive Federal and State funding.
    They have required ESL classes for K-5 through graduation for the same students!
    All of these mandates are pressed downward on the districts and many of them are redundant.
    Just like businesses, too much of the money is going into compliance and not enough is going into production.

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    absolutely right.

    And the number of "classified" students, either with cognitive disabilities (IEPs) or psychological/physical accommodation needs (504 plans) keeps growing, as pretty much ANY drop in school performance means immediate evaluation for extra help, which usually means extra hiring and extra administration to oversee the additional staff. No one gets overworked in schools; you must keep the ratio of admin:staff and teacher:student in check at all times.

    My last school had 3,100 students, 340 regular subject teachers, 23 special ed inclusion teachers, 27 aides, 16 guidance counsellors, one superintendent with a staff of 7, one principal for the overall school and 5 vice principals - one for each grade level 9-12 and one "special" VP for kids who kept getting into trouble and required special monitoring.

  • Insane Clown Stossel||

    Really? They cut spending five to seven consecutive years?

    Give me a break!

  • sarcasmic||

    Yeah, they asked for 25% increases in their budgets, only received 15% increases, and by their standards that's a 10% cut.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    By my standards, some(most?) of them need to be fired. We don't have a manufacturing base anymore because we pay assholes like this to babysit.

  • ||

    Actually that is a 8.7% cut.

    Matriculated at a public school did you?;)

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    That's not a fucking cut at all.

    Graduated from a school run by statists, did ya?

  • ||

    Lol who didn't?

    Why else do you think we all think we can spend our way out of debt? It takes decades of stupidification to get the people to believe Keynes makes sense.

  • pmains||

    (1.25 - 1.15) / 1.25 = 0.08 = 8%. 8.7% is only correct if you divide by 1.15, which isn't the value being reduced.

    Now, if you wanted to exaggerate the size of the cut, then I would go with the 10% value. It's not right, either, but its bigger and scarier.

  • ||

    Ouch! Hoist on my own petard. That's what I get for not using a calculator.

  • ||

    So basically this is a repost of the Coulson article?

    John Stossel's articles are so fucking lazy. He's like 1 step above a twitter feed.

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    Well, really it's more of a "watch my show tonight and you can see these guys say intelligent things" which I suppose basically is a tweet.

  • Rick||

    What does libertarian education look like? Like whatever parents want it to, but here are a couple innovative schools that show that money isn't the answer:

    www.villagefreeschool.org
    Located in Portland Oregon, it has the lowest private school tuition in the state.

    www.sudval.org
    Sudbury Valley has been around a long time and proves that this model can be a success.

    If parents didn't have to pay twice to send kids to private schools (taxes and tuition), there would be a lot more competition in education.

  • Jamie Oliver||

    Don't worry, chaps. I'll make sure all the poor, fat, slovenly children in America are forced to eat right. It's not an education they need, considering the facts, it's a healthy three meals a day.

    Seriously, your kids aren't even smart enough to use a fork and knife in Kindergarten! Bloody hell! You Yanks are all royally buggered.

  • ||

    Get governments - federal, state and local - out of education and let the parents control and pay for it.

    Not enough money? First, costs will drop like a stone when you eliminate the bureaucrats and paper-shuffling, as well as money for "student parking" - look at a high school with an eye to what takes a lot of land, which costs money - swimming pools, training facilities for varsity sports, etc etc; probably down to about $200 a month per kid. That's one cable TV subscription, one cheap internet connection or about ten twelve-packs of beer a month. Second, teachers' salaries may be a lot lower, but maybe not, for the good ones at least. Third, have a bake sale, raffle, etc. Or ask for donations via paypal and a website with your schools' information on it, like graduation rate, what grads got into what colleges, etc. Football team? No. Sorry. Organize as a non-profit - someone's mom or dad has to be a lawyer; yes? - and each family kick in $1,000 per kid to start. Rent an inexpensive location, hire a teacher, buy books for your kids - save them for the next ones by selling them to the school or have the school buy 'em - school supplies, etc all at the Wal - Mart. You don't need a computer for each kid or fancy audio visual equipment at the prices schools pay for them. Ditto buses; parents bring their kids in or the kids walk. Security problems? Hire an off-duty cop as a security officer and get door locks that keep folks out but let you and the kids out if you have a fire. Problems? Maybe. General Curt LeMay used to say there aren't any problems, just opporunities. Use your brains and it can happen.

  • Rick||

    It is certainly possible to start schools inexpensively, but don't kid yourself about low barriers to entry. Zoning, insurance, regulations and other hoops are extensive and tough to jump through.

    I'm a parent and involved in Portland's Village Free School, and while it has the lowest tuition of any private school in the state, it runs on an anemic budget and pays teachers a very small wage.

    Although because of the model, we have plenty of applicants for any opening and a never ending supply of eager interns and volunteers, so it works.

    I guess with some economy of scale, you might get down to about $200 a month per child, but a more realistic number for a small school would be about $500 per month. Still, less than a third of the average public cost, not even figuring all the other negative intangible things.

    If anyone is interested in seeing what a free market school can look like, feel free to visit our site, ask for more information, etc.

    We also support some of our program through donations, so anyone looking for a libertarian effort to suuport - here it is:

    http://villagefreeschool.org

  • ||

    What I find irritating about John Stossel -- and this comes from someone who is largely in agreement with him -- is the descent into cliche that so often accompanies his pieces (when he's not manufacturing evidence). In particular

    It's time we threw out the "experts" and exposed the schools to real competition by people with common sense.

    "People with common sense" here is just a code phrase for "people who agree with me". "Common sense" to a liberal is wildly different than it is to a conservative than it is to a libertarian.

  • Oso Politico||

    If we start nit-picking the Constitution then there would be no end to it - but just as it mandates a separation of the State from religion, so to would it have been prescient of the FF's to have included education in that separation.

  • Barry Loberfeld||

  • ||

    They did. Keep in mind the business of education in the days of the founders was the baliwick of the church. It remaind so in this country until the late 1800's. Churches have been in the school business much longer than the state, and why they need the state's permission to teach escapes me.

  • ||

    I didn't rtfa but if it didn't say send the money with the student and allow all comers to try to educate them, then it missed the mark.

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    Dang, dude just said darky, and did not blink... is that racist?

  • Fiscal Meth||

    Math is racist

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    Anyone on?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The correct call is:

    TEAM STOSSEL, ASSEMBLE!

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    Woooo!

  • ||

    Nice, fire them bitches!

  • Fiscal Meth||

    ...out of a cannon

  • ||

    Crazy like a racist.

  • ||

    Stossel tries to stay nonplussed, not doin so well...crazy racist fox is throwing him off.

  • ||

    C'mon guys, reruns are when we are needed most.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    They are spending four times more per magical unicorn.

  • ||

    What about astevements...

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Was the movie Lean on Me based on this episode of Stossel?

  • ||

    No, it was The Goonies, I think.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Lean on Me was based on The Goonies? That doesn't seem right.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    This is a rerun? I don't think I've seen it.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    This ain't no rerun. He's just re-shattering previously aired wisdom.

  • ||

    This is a good episode, their are angry black people yelling at council members if I remember correctly.

    People on councils are usually dicks, so...

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Stossel takes as many vacations as The Man.

  • ||

    I think that he has the "school teacher contract"

  • ||

    And a golf cart...lucky bastard.

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    At my school they put the inbred incorrigible fucks at a school in the mall. We called it mall school.

    they really rented an old store at the mall to teach kids.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I don't like this; teachers shouldn't be teaching kids when they're in the UNDERWEAR!

    Pervs.

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    Yeah! Put on some pants professor!

  • ||

    Yeah! Put on your pants kid!

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    You talk to the computer? Computer can't talk!

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    Actually, I am a nerd.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    13 year olds who say things like "I have very many friends who I see all the time because I have a very flexible schedule" don't have any friends

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    If she learns online she maybe friends with Max...scary

  • Fiscal Meth||

    Pretty soon she'll be telling her online teachers to go suck Ron Paul's dick

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    omg mr kotter, up ur nose w/ a rubr hoz!!!!11!!one!!LOLOLOL

  • Fiscal Meth||

    Dios mio senor kotter, arriba su nariz con un rubr hoz!!!!11!!uno!!LOLOLOL

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    It's wrong , john. 2+6 does not equal bat.

  • ||

    Is there any bit of statist bullshit that does not include the unions.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Children, please open your youtubes to page what what in my butt.

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    I am going to show that to tony, he'll be gone for awhile.

  • ||

    Jesus!

    Here comes jesus clause...

    Why do christians have to ruin everything with jesus?

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    Drink Time!

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    What did I miss? Gimme that bong.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Was that guy continuously kneeing that other guy in the dick? No wonder he was in pain.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Whoa, open up the word conservative in the dictionary and you see a picture of that guy.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    Save me some leftovers guys. I'll catch the late shift

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Bullshit. You've been slacking for some time now. Consider this an intervention.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    I'll get my affairs in order. Where are we goin? Orange county?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Holy shit, that's Northern Exposure lady?

  • Fiscal Meth||

    Hehe Consti*tooting* America Hehe

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    Oh you always have your "pocket" edition.

    Ohhh, a hip hop constitution

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    5 points for the first poster to come up with a cheesy rap based on an admendment

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    From da peeps to da union to da justice to da tranny to da d-fence to da welfare to da liberty fo my beyotch's babies is dis Constitution, boyeeeeee...

  • Fiscal Meth||

    The tranny part is catchy

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Is that a roadblock to state abuse in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

  • ||

    It must rhyme to be considered a rap.

    -pi points

  • ||

    This lady is a christ fag fascist.

    Talking about freedom and shit...AMERICANTALIBANBABIES!HATE'EM

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I want penises and vajayjays taught in schools.

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    Why say penis, then follow with "vajj"?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Because vag's frighten me. Duh.

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    There is nothing in the constitution about socialism.

    Madison was a fucking fascist.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Is that a button-down collar on Colin? He's no Conservative.

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    These people are fucking boringggg......................................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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    DONDEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHISISFUN

  • Fiscal Meth||

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  • Fiscal Meth||

    IWANNADOTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Don't do that.

  • ||

    Just hold a key downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

  • ||

    Lombard support sounds dirty.

    these weird old people pillow commercials seem as if they are for an everyday item that people use for strange elderly sex orgies..."Oh, it massages, how nice."

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    Sheer on Stossel=gauche

    *not gay*

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    What about low performing students, wouldn't it be easier to get rid of them?

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    They have no union, and all.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    They don't need one. They just become politicians

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I liked her better the first time I saw her, when she was Michelle Malkin.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Bad teachers are not the problem."

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    Why the fuck is it so hard to teach some kids some shit?

    "Hey, kid look here motherfucker, if you don't learn how to multiply I will end your young life." = results

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I liked this guy better the first time I saw him, when he was Oliver Stone.

  • ||

    Why do you like everyone better the first time that you see them, maybe you could like them more now that they are more familiar.

  • ||

    Let the lady talk

  • Fiscal Meth||

    "The bottom x% don't remain..." They occupy the rubber rooms

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Working with teachers helping them find the door.

  • ||

    Let's work with incompetent, money grubbing, strike prone teachers so that they can suck us all fucking dry.

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    And not suck us dry in the van halen hot for teacher awesome sort of way...

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Schools aren't there to serve students, lady. Schools are there to provide teachers employment.

  • ||

    Where else are they going to work, the salt mines?

    heartless libertarian: they aren't qualified for technical work.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Wait, this guy is a school board president? Or teachers union president?

  • ||

    Does it matter?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    In my neck of the woods, the two are usually at odds.

  • ||

    I was thinking of someone else.

    Keyser Sosey!

  • Fiscal Meth||

    And like that...he's gone

  • ||

    Dude, holding people's jobs over their heads is great motivation.

    Results are sometimes obtained by the stick, and not the carrot.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    In other words, people are idiots.

  • ||

    John, you are a heartless libertarian that will fire anyone anytime for any reason...that is why i like you.

    Salty seadog.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Science!

  • ||

    Talk about "teh patriarchy"...where's the vajj?

  • ||

    One. Million. Dollars...BWHAHAHAH!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I'm going to refute the number without evidence.

  • ||

    $1 Drew!

  • ||

    Yep.

  • ||

    He went to public school, give him a break.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Past that kid's bedtime.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "BLACK HOLE"!!! RACIST!!!!

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    how about a voucher for a haircut, hippie?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Red hole"??? Um, anti-injun?

  • ||

    Pro-vajj maybe?

  • ||

    There is choice, you could always move.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    You could always suddenly become rich and move into a neighborhood with nicer public schools.

  • ||

    What is it about guys from new york, they just make shit up, unabashedly.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Whoa, time skip on Dish's broadcast there.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    What? He's a Native American?

  • Fiscal Meth||

    Uncle Tomahawk!

  • ||

    NICE HAIR!!!

    psst...it's fake

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Also, get off my lawn."

  • ||

    You forgot cotton, racist.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    OMG, Stossel is talking about setting bombs off at schools?

  • ||

    It's like 9/11 times a thousand...that's right 911,000!

  • Fiscal Meth||

    These far right extremists

  • ||

    I would like to see Old Mexican on this episode explaining to these apologists that schools are worse than prison.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    OTHER COUNTRIES FUDGE THEIR NUMBERS!

  • ||

    That's how good they are at statistics.

    We are losing the fudge the numbers with math because we are bad at math and other countries do math good and atleast we aren't anchorbabies that can speak enlgnilsh ...SPEAKAMERICAN!

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    The US is 25th in math, that's right after finland which is 22nd.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    You fucked up yer countin cuz of that metric system in finland

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Geez, Christie is that big?

  • ||

    Yeah man, Taft big.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    WRONG. The biggest problem is violent video games. And meth.

  • ||

    Speaking of meth, where is the toothless wonder?

    Probably show up at 4am to cover the thread in tinfoil.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Scroll up.

  • ||

    I called it, yeah the "late shift" uh huh.

    I don't generally come down on people for their drug of choice, but dang something that you smoke out of a lightbulb...DAMN!

  • Fiscal Meth||

    Don't be jealous cuz my light bulb drugs is delicious!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Ha, stupid commies.

  • ||

    When Stossel gets into it, talkin about free markets and shit, his head bobs around like a drunk chicken.

    i appreciate his fervor.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Stossel works the crowd at the end of the show.

  • ||

    He's probably checking for monocles and decoder rings to make sure everyone is legit before he pulls out the "freedom bong".

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Okay, livebloggers, consider that a job... done.

  • ||

    I think I may liveblog the Pens opener here, it's on a thursday...damn I need two teevees.

    That night will be the new episode of stossel, with titties too, you watch.

    I need to watch some fucking hockey though, withdrawals are a bitch.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Oh man, that's going to be a quandary.

    For now, new Sunny, boners.

  • Fiscal Meth||

    Rock Flag and Eagle....

  • ||

    Well, it seems to be literally true. Seven is plural. But where are they located? Close together or "around the country"? Can't be too careful with these guys.

  • Ekim||

    The public schools should just be shut down. Third party pay systems don't work. Parents will never insist on value for dollars spent unless they pay for it themselves. The property tax is highly regressive, and does little beyond enriching bureaucrats. The bottom half lose more to the property tax than they will ever gain from inefficient schooling.

  • ||

    Everybody bitches about the cost of college and says we need to spend more on primary and secondary school. In MN they have Post Secondary options. High achieving students can attend a local college for their last two years of high school. You need to complete the same types of classes like English and Health but the state pays for all your books and tuition. Turns out this costs the state less money than sending them to high school.

  • ||

    Merely three things needed for remarkable improvement in education.
    vouchers, vouchers, vouchers.

  • ||

    Ah, I love the generalizations about teaching and education. Yeesh, I suppose if I were to gauge the lack of intelligence from many of the posts demonizing education, one would have to agree, mass public education has failed. Alas....

  • Matt||

    I don't get why people can't see past the unions and their lies. The unions would be over with politically if people started to look at the facts. Also, Europe allows for school choice, and they do much better in testing. They're not any smarter than us. We have the same DNA.

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