Matt Welch | June 23, 2009
It's during foreign crises like these that I'm glad Barack Obama's biggest critic this week, John Sidney McCain III, never became commander in chief of the United States military. Not because of the Arizona senator's obvious sympathies with Iranian protesters, and distaste for their misrulers—both of which I share. But rather because we might not be talking about Iranian protesters at all this month had the author of "rogue-state rollback" been allowed to test out his doctrine from the Oval Office.
Go back to even before McCain's infamous "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" performance on the 2007 campaign trail. The year is 2000, the month is February, and the media's favorite Republican is asked by Larry King at a presidential debate: "What area of American international policy would you change immediately as president?" McCain's answer, after a bit of stammering:
Revise our policies concerning these rogue states...those countries that continue to try to acquire weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them....I'd institute a policy that I call "rogue state rollback." I would arm, train, equip, both from without and from within, forces that would eventually overthrow the governments and install free and democratically-elected governments.
McCain had spelled this policy out in a major foreign policy speech a year earlier, adding what amounted to a game of international chicken: The U.S. should back such insurgents not just with weapons and money, but with the full force of American arms should dictators call their bluff:
The proliferation of weapons of mass destruction is the clearest danger we currently confront. Nowhere is the threat more worrisome than in rogue states...I offer one caution, however. If you commit to supporting these forces, accept the seriousness of the obligation. Don't abandon them to the mercies of tyrants whenever they meet with reversals as the administration did in the north of Iraq....The world's only superpower should never give its word insincerely. We should never make idle threats.
The first three targets on McCain's hit list were Iraq, Libya, and North Korea. Had he bested George W. Bush in 2000, the maverick would have had opportunities aplenty to carry out non-idle threats against this Axis of Evil even before the attacks of September 11, 2001. As the Iraq War would amply illustrate, using the U.S. military to replace even one rogue-state tyrant can stretch American capabilities near the breaking point, even when you fall short of the "free and democratically elected" ideal. And among the festival of unintended consequences may be included hemorrhaging support from precisely those pro-democracy forces you initially aim to assist.
Iran met McCain's definition of a rogue state, was actively supporting terrorist organizations abroad, and, as of 2005, had launched a new series of crackdowns on what had been a comparatively vibrant civil society. And the Iranian government's nuclear ambitions alone—which, unhelpfully, continue to enjoy broad support across Iranian society—would have run afoul of a President McCain. As he said in 2007:
The military option is always the ultimate last option, but I don't believe that it's "off the table." I would remind you that enrichment is a longer process. Weaponization can be done rather rapidly. Iran remains a nation dedicated to the extinction of the state of Israel. Iran continues to export the most lethal explosive devices into Iraq, killing Americans. They continue to be a state sponsor of terror in the case of Hamas and Hezbollah. And they continue to seek to exert influence throughout the entire region and the age-old ambition of Persian hegemony, including their increasing influence in the Basra area in southern Iraq. So I think they remain a significant threat and challenge, and so, no, I wouldn't take the option "off the table."
The reaction to Obama's performance these past 10 remarkable days by John McCain and his fellow foreign policy travelers is a fresh reminder that chicken is a game best played with your brother in the back yard, not with unhinged regimes in the Middle East. In what Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan aptly characterized as "Aggressive Political Solipsism," the McCain crowd, amidst its otherwise stirring testimonials about freedom over tyranny, has continually refocused the debate onto Washington. All while deploying that with-us-or-against-us rhetoric that was played out years ago.
On Fox's Neil Cavuto Show, for example, McCain accused Obama of "giving a green light to oppressive governments," "walking on the other side of the street" from the protesters, and engaging in a "betrayal" of American ideals. McCain's old pals at The Weekly Standard predictably concurred with the hyperbole, with the tag team of William Kristol and Stephen Hayes characterizing Obama as being "a de facto ally of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei," and Executive Editor Fred Barnes chiming in that the president "actually helps the regime." And in what reads like a bid to out-crazy the field, National Review writer Andy McCarthy claimed: "The fact is that, as a man of the hard Left, Obama is more comfortable with a totalitarian Islamic regime than he would be with a free Iranian society."
For the moment, those who have consistently advocated military intervention into Iran are limiting their wish-list to the speed, content, and temperature of the president's language (and no, they were not sated by Obama's more sternly worded press conference Tuesday afternoon, as it did not resolve the pressing issue of invitations to July 4 embassy parties). But it's striking how the adherents of rogue-state rollback are much more concerned with minor symbolism than they are about what kind of Iranian state we'd even be talking about this month had they had full run of U.S. policy this past decade.
Obama's rhetoric on Iran so far has been far from bulletproof. For my admittedly internationalist taste, the president appeared more distant and tepid than I would have liked the first few days. And Stephen Hayes makes an interesting point when he compares that early response to Obama's more soaring rhetoric (about Iranian bloggers, no less) during his over-hyped speech in Berlin last year. But by refusing the bait to make an Iranian story a referendum about America, even while stressing international norms that the Iranian regime has clearly violated, the president has disarmed one of the mullahs' favorite talking points in a way that no neo-conservative could ever do with words alone:
The Iranian people are trying to have a debate about their future. Some in Iran—some in the Iranian government, in particular, are trying to avoid that debate by accusing the United States and others in the West of instigating protests over the elections.
These accusations are patently false. They're an obvious attempt to distract people from what is truly taking place within Iran's borders.
This tired strategy of using old tensions to scapegoat other countries won't work anymore in Iran. This is not about the United States or the West; this is about the people of Iran and the future that they—and only they—will choose.
If the people of Iran somehow navigate that choice successfully, and without significant bloodshed, the accomplishment will be all the more meaningful for having truly been an indigenous process. On the flip side, the mullahs may yet try to maintain power through Tiananmen-style force. That's a game of chicken that will have all of us anxious for weeks to come.
But it's one that no words or even deeds from Washington can ultimately resolve. Recognizing that fact may be the first step in acknowledging the limitations of U.S. power, and rehabilitating the world's responsibility for its own affairs. John McCain may be an effective sympathizer with far-flung dissidents, but that doesn't mean he's right about U.S. primacy, or about war. Whoever it's with.
Matt Welch is editor in chief of Reason and author of McCain: The Myth of a Maverick.
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As horrible as Obama is, I'm glad McCain isn't President. His uber-imperialism & war mongering scares the hell out of me. It should scare the hell out of everyone. A man with this bad of judgement on foreign policy should not get the nomination of either party.
"Former campaign rival John McCain has been President Barack
Obama's biggest critic during the remarkable protests in
Iran."
[citation needed]
One good bombing run on Iran could easily kill a larger number
of innocent people than those slain thus far by the Iranian
Security Forces.
Many of those killed would end up being the same ones we are
currently cheering on as they battle for their freedom on the
streets of Tehran. Protesting martyrs inspire international
sympathy and outrage; those slain in "collateral damage" are
largely ignored. That's the way it is with international political
theatre.
I would think that the last thing the Iranian protesters on the
streets would want is to have the Americans shooting their mouths
off and starting up even more trouble.
If the US government begins offering too much support the
anti-government demonstrators, then that gives the Iranian
government all the more license to crack down even harder and turn
public sentiment against them.
"[citation needed]"
Iirc, Welch has deluded himself into believing that McCain raped
his mom or something. That's why he's so disappropriately and
unnaturally obsessed with McCain. I think McCain has a restraining
order, but is constitutionally prohibited from quelling Welch's
writings, no matter how childish and vile.
Hey Matt,
rather than ball-gagging MaCain for the ten thousandth time, maybe
you could look a t Obama:
Internet User Stumps Obama
At his press conference today, President Obama, in a pre-arranged
move, invited a reporter from the Huffington Post to ask a question
submitted by one of the Iranians with whom that reporter has been
communicating via the internet. The reporter, Nico Pitney,
transmitted this question:
"Under which conditions would you accept the election of
Ahmadinejad? And if you do accept it without any significant
changes in the conditions there, isn't that a betrayal of -- of
what the demonstrators there are working to achieve?"
What a terrific question -- a query that not one in a thousand
American journalists could be expected to match -- and kudos to
Pitney for selecting it. The question elegantly but pointedly (1)
refutes the suggestion of Obama's apologists that the president
helps the protesters by remaining above the fray while (2)
reminding Obama that he cannot really remain above the fray in any
event because he must eventually accept the election of Ahmadinejad
by dealing with him as planned or reject that fraudulently reached
outcome by changing his course.
The president could only bob and weave. He responded that the U.S.
did not have observers on the ground and therefore could not know
whether the election was legitimate. But the U.S. knows that the
candidates were pre-screened by the regime, making the election
inherently illegitimate.
He responded further that it is up to the Iranian people, not the
U.S., to view the election as legitimate or not. But a portion, and
probably very large portion, of the Iranian people has already
decided that the election is not legitimate; yet the "result" will
stand and Ahmadinejad will serve another term. Thus, the ball is
now in the Obama administration's court to treat the election as
legitimate, by dealing with Ahmadinejad even as he represses his
own people, or to demur.
The question thus stands unanswered by Obama, though it answers
itself: if Obama treats Ahmadinejad as the legitimate leader of
Iran in the absence of significant changes in conditions there,
that would indeed constitute a betrayal of what the demonstrators
are working to achieve.
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran...
Ahem...was that outloud?
I jest. You know I was kidding, right?
Work with me here, people...
Phantom link?
You know it, babe.
Might I interest you in a used presidential run?
Four on the floor and an 8-track ready to rock.
Really enjoyed this, but prefer it when Andrew Sullivan writes under his own name rather than using his "Matt Welch" pen-name.
"Really enjoyed this, but prefer it when Andrew Sullivan writes
under his own name rather than using his "Matt Welch"
pen-name."
No. It's Matt. He's gotta million of 'em.
The question elegantly but pointedly (1) refutes the
suggestion of Obama's apologists that the president helps the
protesters by remaining above the fray while...
It does no such thing. What a gimpy argument.
Did Obama promise Mousavi the election? Did Obama promise the
demonstrators a new pony? No? Then it's hardly a "betrayal". It
most certainly is an acceptance of real politic, of the fact that
American intervention isn't going to make the current situation
better. Obama doesn't have to treat Ahmadinejad as any more
legitimate than he currently treats him.
...the candidates were pre-screened by the regime, making the
election inherently illegitimate.
Just like how McCain and Obama were screened by our regime?
Look, Ahmadinejad's a nut job, but that doesn't mean we should, or
can, fix Iran's problem. America's choices are
patient diplomacy, or screwing things up big time. Diplomacy may
not change anything, but that's a lot better than the
alternative.
New at Reason: Matt Welch on John McCain's Prolapsed Rectum and What this Means for the Ice Cream Industry
Really enjoyed this, but prefer it when Andrew Sullivan
writes under his own name rather than using his "Matt Welch"
pen-name.
That is one of the better insults in recent memory!
"That is one of the better insults in recent memory!"
So You're the one sporting a ball gag. My bad.
We want ice cream!
We? Is that a mouse in your pocket, gimpy, or are you a bit too
excited about McCain's prolapse?
"Did Obama promise Mousavi the election? Did Obama promise the
demonstrators a new pony? No? Then it's hardly a "betrayal". It
most certainly is an acceptance of real politic, of the fact that
American intervention isn't going to make the current situation
better."
So Obama's realpolitik will result in no blowback?
I would think that the last thing the Iranian protesters on the streets would want is to have the Americans shooting their mouths off and starting up even more trouble.
No, no, no! If Obama condemned the Iranian government action, it
would magically stop! The mullahs would realize their days were
limited, and cede power immediately. There would be no negative
consequences whatsoever. None whatsoever!!!
It's funny that's it's usually Obama's supporters who
think he shits unicorns and rainbows, and casts spells of wondrous
power. Now his detractors are making the case for his ability to
use a few magic words and change reality.
Someone please explain why I should have sympathy for the Iran opposition. I have a little just because they're brave, but I'd have that same sympathy for an outrageous criminal or a daredevil. Any more reasons?
This thread is about McCain.
Stop wasting your time discussing the President and his Iran
policy.
It's about MCCAIN!!!
Best,
One Trick Pony
You could more than likely make a similar argument for the other
side. Did the revolutionaries start this fight because they saw
other Muslim nations voting in free elections. Free elections
supported by the US. Most of the Middle East is very capable of
delineating between social events like an invasion by a foreign
nation and subsequent events. Damning one while praising the other.
Just a thought. I can see the other side of the argument playing
out just as you presented your argument.
I don't want my government to have anything to do with it. I can
support citizens and even citizen or private organizations funding
and helping. But Uncle Sam has no stake in the ME and needs to keep
his sorry ass at home.
McCain isn't arguing for bombing Iran right now. He is merely asking that Obama use more forceful language in siding with the protesters and denouncing the Iranian government. Sometimes words matter: remember "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"? Even the Europeans are ahead of him on this. Obama, leftist as he is, could never bring himself to something like "evil regime". He is too busy trying to be "nuanced".
Te Worst thing that could happen to John McCain was to win the Republica Nomination to be president, because he it opened the floodgates for the Republicans to say he's a RINO and he has to constantly prove his bona fides to the party lest he get knocked out in the primaries.
Shorter Welch: Obama sucks. Hey, to be contrary I'll write an article about how McCain would have sucked worse!
He is merely asking that Obama use more forceful language in
siding with the protesters and denouncing the Iranian
government.
Today, Obama said, "The United States and the international
community have been appalled and outraged by the threats, beatings,
and imprisonments of the last few days. I strongly condemn these
unjust actions, and I join with the American people in mourning
each and every innocent life that is lost."
Considering we've killed many more civilians in Afghanistan alone,
I think Obama's full of shit. But what more is he supposed to say?
Is he supposed to threaten Iran?
Sometimes words matter: remember "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this
wall!"?
When Reagan that, he was actively supporting terrorism in Central
America and mass-murdering dictators all over the globe. So, no, in
that case, words don't really matter.
When Reagan that, he was actively supporting terrorism in
Central America and mass-murdering dictators all over the globe.
So, no, in that case, words don't really matter.
Mass murdering dictators? You are an imbecile.
Neda getting shot in the chest by a Basij is a tragedy. Neda getting blown to smithereens by an American bomb is a statistic.
Because there is no difference, none whatsoever, to collateral damage during warfighting, and a regime gunning down its own citizens during protests.
"Because there is no difference, none whatsoever, to collateral
damage during warfighting, and a regime gunning down its own
citizens during protests."
Well the difference lies in where the blame for the deaths will be
directed. And as an American, I'd rather it not be directed at
us.
Mass murdering dictators? You are an imbecile.
Suharto in Indonesia. Ramos in El Salvador. Pinochet in Chile.
Garcia in Guatemala. Hussein in Iraq.
You are ignorant. Willfully so, it would seem.
Because there is no difference, none whatsoever, to collateral
damage during warfighting, and a regime gunning down its own
citizens during protests.
It depends on the war and the tactics being used to fight it, along
with the degree of one's statist beliefs that if the government
kills civilians during a military operation, it must have been for
a good reason. Because, hey, we're America. And our government only
kills foreign civilians for the best of reasons.
There are lots of reasons to be grateful that McCain isn't
President, if you were to compare him to, say, Reagan or
Eisenhower. But compared with Obama? Sorry, that's a bit more
problematic.
But to stay within the article - is :
1) Practical considerations - is the US _capable_ of supporting the
enemies of its enemies?
"As the Iraq War would amply illustrate, using the U.S. military to
replace even one rogue-state tyrant can stretch American
capabilities near the breaking point." Huh?
World War II stretched American capabilities (although not likely
to the breaking point), but _Iraq?_ Iraq was a frigging cakewalk,
as I recall. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure some twit can point to some such
or other factoid justifying this hyperbole, but come on now,
really. Iraq was, in historical terms, easy.
So the answer to (1) is yes.
2) Is this a strategy, or is it just like playing Chicken in your
back yard?
If your intent is to weaken those who threaten you, and you
actually _do_ weaken those who threaten you, then it's not chicken.
And given the events of the past week, it's not at all clear that
Bush, who I imagine Matt Welch would say had played this game too,
did not weaken the Mullarchy with it.
So the answer to (2) is no, it's not like playing Chicken with your
brother in the back yard. It can work. It does work.
But - and here I partially agree with Matt Welch - it is only _one_
tactic. The long-term strategy should be to subvert these regimes
in any way possible through a variety of tactics - propaganda,
economic pressure, military pressure, whatever works.
But that does _not_ mean that I would dignify the current
President's obvious befuddlement, inaction, and persitence with
what has now clearly been repudiated as a viable approach - trying
to be pals with everybody - with the name 'tactic.' His approach is
simply wishful thinking writ large.
Military preemption -- the "Bush Doctrine" -- is nothing but global gun control.
Mass murdering dictators? You are an imbecile.
Suharto in Indonesia. Ramos in El Salvador. Pinochet in Chile.
Garcia in Guatemala. Hussein in Iraq.
You are ignorant. Willfully so, it would seem.
Did Reagan "mass-murder those dictators?
You did not write "supporting terrorists and dictators who are
mass-murderers". You wrote "supporting terrorists and
mass-murdering dictators."
Don't blame me for reading your post as you wrote it instead of how
it was apparently intended.
Why is it the US president's place to accept or not accept the results of a foreign election that everyone knows is not really legitimate in the first place, even if every vote was properly counted? No one thinks that the Iranian regime is good or democratic. But they are still in charge of Iran. If you want to deal with Iran, you have to deal with them, whatever the results of the fake election for the not-very-powerful president. This whole controversy about Obama's reaction seems rather trumped up and irrelevant.
"You did not write "supporting terrorists and dictators who are
mass-murderers". You wrote "supporting terrorists and
mass-murdering dictators."
Don't blame me for reading your post as you wrote it instead of how
it was apparently intended."
Don't be a dick. Language contains ambiguities and that could
legitimately be read either way. You just happened to pick the
unintended interpretation. Either would be valid.
You did not write "supporting terrorists and dictators who
are mass-murderers". You wrote "supporting terrorists and
mass-murdering dictators."
Here's a grammatically correct (if hastily structured)
sentence:
"She enjoyed dating singing truckers and farming football
players."
Why would you think the subject of that sentence farmed football
players?
The sentence I wrote is grammatically correct, but could be read
either way. You decided I meant that Reagan mass-murdered
dictators.
And then you called me an imbecile.
That's kind of funny.
I'll just add that I know it's a poorly structured sentence, as
it was written too hastily.
But there are ways of pointing out things like that without being,
as Zeb so accurately put it, a dick.
The sentence I wrote is grammatically correct....I know it's a poorly structured sentence
I thought the same things when I heard McCain rants. There is no doubt in my mind that Obama's election changed the way our country is viewed in Iran. Now, if we can only get the President to stop spending our money like a drunkard sailer. Everytime I read about Obama's domestic policies, I grap my wallet.
Good article Matt. Our government should not be in the habit of supporting insurgencies however rightous the cause may be. On the other hand, there are things we as private citizens can do. We can write to officals within the Iranian government to express our disgust over their attacks on protestors. We can also rally in our cities in solidarity with the Iranian people. Both of these actions are within the norms of international dialogue.
Barack Obama has mirrored a long line of presidents who didnt
who talked softly and didnt carry a big stick.
Eisenhower refused airlifts of arms to the hungarians fighting the
Russian Red Army.
Kennedy was labasted for not ordering air support in the bay of
pigs fiasco. Bush Sr. Mumbled some semi harsh words for the Chinese
in the Aftermath of the Tiannenmen Square massacre. McCain's
loudmouth antics have no weight. A long line of presidents
Republican and Democrats have done exactly what Barack Obama has or
has not said concerning the upheaval in Iran. They all hedged their
bets and waited for the clampdown and ruffled as few feathers as
possible.
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