Matt Welch | May 15, 2008
John McCain announces timetable for withdrawal from Iraq!
Well, actually, he did no such thing, and probably will never do any such thing, but this morning, in an interesting speech (and crappy companion commercial) dreamcasting ahead to the year 2013, the presumptive Republican nominee cleverly set bait for the national media to undo his most enduring campaign blunder to date: Letting slip the bedrock truism that McCain sees no downside whatsoever to having U.S. troops stationed in Iraq in the year 2109.
The Arizona senator's ongoing political challenge this year is to maintain his strong support and feelings of empathetic good will from independents and Democrats who hate the war (and the mindset behind it) that he so adamantly supports and even embodies. It's a tough nut to crack, trying to convince people who hate George W. Bush that your foreign policy is more "moderate" than the president's when in fact it has been more radical and interventionist for a full decade running, but McCain is banking on the power of suggestion, and above all the remarkable potency of the benefit of the doubt, to obscure his rock-solid neo-conservative credentials and expansionist foreign policy.
Here's how he did it today. By January 2013, after the first McCain term, he says:
America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won. Iraq is a functioning democracy, although still suffering from the lingering effects of decades of tyranny and centuries of sectarian tension. Violence still occurs, but it is spasmodic and much reduced. Civil war has been prevented; militias disbanded; the Iraqi Security Force is professional and competent; al Qaeda in Iraq has been defeated; and the Government of Iraq is capable of imposing its authority in every province of Iraq and defending the integrity of its borders. The United States maintains a military presence there, but a much smaller one, and it does not play a direct combat role.
That's the sole basis of the "McCain announces departure date" interpretation. It doesn't take a cynic to note that this is not remotely a tangible roadmap for drawing down forces, but rather an "I have a dream" laundry list of wonderful things he'd love to see. In fact, his speech today is chock full of such locutions, covering events roughly as likely as President Bush's Mission to Mars. Some other examples of McCain's wishcasting:
* The increase in actionable intelligence that the counterinsurgency produced led to the capture or death of Osama bin Laden, and his chief lieutenants.
* Concerted action by the great democracies of the world has persuaded a reluctant Russia and China to cooperate in pressuring Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions, and North Korea to discontinue its own.
* After exercising my veto several times in my first year in office, Congress has not sent me an appropriations bill containing earmarks for the last three years.
* U.S. tariffs on agricultural imports have been eliminated and unneeded farm subsidies are being phased out.
* Public education in the United States is much improved thanks to the competition provided by charter and private schools.
It sure would be pretty to think so! And obviously, it's better to have a prospective president mouthing platitudes about free agricultural trade than a political hack demagoguing a lousy farm bill. But as concerns the policy question du jour—and McCain's political necessity of scrubbing the word "neo-con" from his resume, without actually changing any of his neo-conservative policies or foreign policy team—the 2013 drawdown from Iraq should be seen as the strategic and process-free campaign cheap-talk that it is.
And how's it working out? By a quick look at the
headlines, Mission Accomplished!
McCain sees Iraq combat over, U.S. troops home before 2013
Troops home from Iraq by 2013: McCain
McCain Sets a Date
The funny thing is, as routinely happens with our straight-talking friend, the press has buried the foreign policy lede by skipping over McCain's interventionist bluster in the very same speech. For instance, did you know that President McCain intends to lead NATO forces into Darfur, and use that as a stepping-stone to various humanitarian interventions?
[T]he United States, acting in concert with a newly formed League of Democracies, applied stiff diplomatic and economic pressure that caused the government of Sudan to agree to a multinational peacekeeping force, with NATO countries providing logistical and air support, to stop the genocide that had made a mockery of the world's repeated declaration that we would "never again" tolerant such inhumanity. Encouraged by the success, the League is now occupied with using the economic power and prestige of its member states to end other gross abuses of human rights such as the despicable crime of human trafficking.
Note here the process difference from the Iraq quote above: Not only is he wishing how something might be true, he's spelling out the procedural road map as well.
As George Will pointed out in yet another recent scathing critique of McCain, the "never surrender" candidate has pledged to stay the course in Iraq until "the establishment of a generally peaceful, stable, prosperous, democratic state"—a perfect recipe for the 100-year occupation he's so furiously back-pedaling from—while vowing to use force against Iran if the mullahs develop nukes. The question Will wants answered, and the rest of us should too, is not "is it true you are more moderate than George W. Bush?", but (in Will's words) "how long is your list of nations eligible for 'rogue-state rollback'?"
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Does Republican presidential hopeful John McCain really plan
on withdrawing troops from Iraq by 2013?
Answer: No. So, five more years of death and sorrow for American
and Iraqi families, and that's just the beginning.
Anyone who votes this turd into office is no friend of mine.
As I understood his comments (paraphrasing heavily here), he
thought we should be able to get Iraq to a point where our troops
aren't needed anymore by 2013, so we could withdraw them at that
point.
I don't think he made an unconditional promise to withdraw them
regardless of conditions on the ground. And I don't think Hillary
or even Obama, regardless of what they may imply on the stump,
would do so either. Both know that another "evacuation of Saigon"
type situation where we withdraw under fire would doom their
political career and legacy.
Korean War 1950-1953 and we are still there 55 years
later.
US-Nippo war 1941-1945 and we are still there.
US-Iraq war 2003-2008(2013) unless we pull completely out ala
Vietnam we will be there when my grandchildren are old enough to
vote.
RC Dean -- Quite right: He didn't make that a "promise" at all; he just threw the words "Iraq" and "2013" and "come" and "home" in the same speech, and allowed the media to take it from there.
The thing is, no one is going to believe him.
And it doesn't really matter. Even if he somehow pulls the upset
there's likely to be huge Democratic gains in Congress. His veto
won't hold out for long.
I've been getting this vague impression that Matt isn't much of
McCain fan...
You're right though. He doesn't need to say what the public wants
to hear - he can just say something really generic, and the media
loves him so much they'll spin it the most populist way they
can.
A Jamie Kelly post with no profanity is like a joe post with no smugness. It just ain't right.
You know, maybe its like how a starving dog appreciates table
scraps but I liked this snipet of the linked speech:
"I am presumptuous enough to think I would be a good President, but
not so much that I believe I can govern by command. Should I forget
that, Congress will, of course, hasten to remind me"
It seems to indicate (even if its lip service) a depature from the
executive uber alles notion of the current white house.
Is it as phoney as the Dems promise, if they got control of the house and senate, to pull out the troops in 2006?
Well, then I read this:
"the Iraqi Security Force is professional and competent; "
This goal is simply not achievable in 4 years. A professional
military takes a generation to produce. To wit: professional
military = professional NCO's training the next gen of professional
NCO's in a self sustaining reaction. This is a min of a twenty year
project.
Another from the speech:
"The threat from a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan has been
greatly reduced but not eliminated."
Now, this goal is understated. There is no reason why the threat
from a resurgent Taliban should not be eliminated by five years
from now. Spring 2013 would represent at least 11 years from when
the Taliban was toppled. Worrying about the Taliban in 2013 would
be like worrying about resurgent fascism in western Europe in
1955.
And it doesn't really matter. Even if he somehow pulls the
upset there's likely to be huge Democratic gains in Congress. His
veto won't hold out for long.
When has the majority democrat controlled senate and house voted to
oppose ANY of the Bush abuses (war, patriot act, etc.)?
Both know that another "evacuation of Saigon" type situation
where we withdraw under fire would doom their political career and
legacy.
Phooey. They could do it on Day One and go down as heroes. The
longer they wait, the more spineless they'll be perceived.
A Jamie Kelly post with no profanity is like a joe post with
no smugness. It just ain't right.
What the fuck are you talking about, you cum-gurgler?
R C Dean:
I don't think Hillary or even Obama, regardless of what they
may imply on the stump, would do so either. Both know that another
"evacuation of Saigon" type situation where we withdraw under fire
would doom their political career and legacy.
Obama has
promised an immediate pullout, and I believe he would keep that
promise. Quoting from the 24 minute mark of the video,
Google questioner: You're notable in this campaign for your
steadfast opposition to the Iraq war. On the assumption that you're
elected president, on day one you'll walk in and the war will
probably still be on. We know your view that the war was a mistake.
But here it is: you're at the desk. What are you going to
do?
Obama: I will call in the joint chiefs of staff, my secretary
of state nominee, my national security advisor nominee, and they
will have a new mission which is to end this war. And it appears
based on the advice that I've gotten from military commanders that
we can safely bring out 1-2 brigades per month. At that pace we
will have our combat troops out in 16 months.
We will not have permanent bases in Iraq and we will not have
combat operations in Iraq. The only mission that I will allow will
be to protect our embassy and our civilian personnel - diplomats,
humanitarian workers - and we will have a narrowly targeted mission
of if there are terrorist camps that are amassing in Iraq that we
have a strike capability.
I really love the candidates@google series, by the way. The
hour-long talks/interviews give you a much better insight into the
candidates than you could get from a stump speech.
The United States maintains a military presence there, but a
much smaller one, and it does not play a direct combat
role.
At that pace we will have our combat troops out in 16
months.
It's time to play Spot the Magic Word.
"The thing is, no one is going to believe him."
I live in America what country do you live in Colin?
Every fucking Republican is going to be saying John McCain is going
to have us out of Iraq by 2013. America is sealing its own fate
electing imperialist warmongers like Bush & McCain I'm glad I
won't be around 100 years from now when American's find out
paybacks a bitch.
Obama has promised an immediate pullout, and I believe he
would keep that promise.
I know he has. I don't believe he'd keep it. If we withdraw forces
too quickly before the Iraqis can pick up the slack, Iranian
proxies, whatever's left of AQ, you name it, will drench the
streets with blood trying to fill the power vacuum.
Its possible Obama is stupid enough to keep to his inane schedule
even in the face of mounting catastrophe, but I seriously doubt
it.
Isn't McCain's view of 2013 the same as Bush's vision of what the close of 2003 was supposed to be?
There is a name for people like Travis who call Bush and McCain
"Warmongers".
The name is appeaser. Another name is yellow bellied sniviling
marxist coward that would sell out his country for 20 pieces of
silver.
The name is appeaser. Another name is yellow bellied
sniviling marxist coward that would sell out his country for 20
pieces of silver.
wait... who's selling out our country? last i checked, bush and his
pals falsified information to sell a 3 trillion dollar 'adventure'
to the world.
JohnD, When Judas sold out Jesus for 30 pieces of silver, he sold out a guy who refused to support resistance against an occupying power (Rome). If Jesus was alive today and in this country, he wouldn't fight back if Islamic terrorists literally took over our country and its government. Judas should be your hero.
noun:
a person who advocates, endorses, or tries to precipitate
war.
Technically, George Bush is a Warmonger by Definition. No one was
taking measures appease Saddam because he wasn't a threat. As for
marxist, I think it was the Communists who had a foreign policy of
propping up governments that shared their ideology. Something the
NeoConservatives have borrowed, except it's not all the workers of
the world unite. It's all the democratic citizens of the world
unite. A person in Burma is the same in as in Columbia or America.
We must Free Them! Liberty by the sword. It's the only just thing
to do!
Why doesn't Reason just come out in favor of Barack Obama then? I am sick and tired of libertarians trouncing all over Mccain's comments and other conservatives while placating the HARD LEFT views of Barack Obama.
Recently, former army sergeant Kristofer Goldsmith told a
half-dozen US lawmakers and scores of people who packed into a
small hearing room of "lawless murders, looting and the abuse of
countless Iraqis.", explaining why he and numerous other vets do
not support the presense of our troops there.
Most of the violence in Iraq is fueled by the presence of the
foreign occupier. We are afraid to admit that if we pull out right
now, things will be no worse.
"The enemy" as George Bush puts it, is made up of, not terrorists,
not El-Quaeda, but what the CIA calls POI's "pissed off
Iraqis".
The notion that the "Security Forces" are unified in defending the
populace against "the enemy" is a fiction of Bush and McCains
brains. It's just not the reality.
Kolohe:
"This goal is simply not achievable in 4 years. A professional
military takes a generation to produce. To wit: professional
military = professional NCO's training the next gen of professional
NCO's in a self sustaining reaction. This is a min of a twenty year
project."
OK, that is true, but context matters.
First, you do not need the Iraqi SF to be on par with the
Americans; it is enough that they are reasonably on par with the
regional powers (Iran, Turkey, Syria come to mind).
Second, the Iraqi soldiers are not trained in peacetime, but in
conflict. That means that they should absorb knowledge more quickly
than people in boot camp somewhere in Nevada, where the last war
was with the Apache tribe in 1890. In the boot camp, if you do not
learn quickly, you might have problems with the sergeant. On the
battlefield, you learn quickly or you die.
Remember how the Soviet Red Army raised their fighting qualities
between 1940 (when they had problems defeating the Finnish) and
1943, when they crushed German Panzer divisions at Kursk. That was
not a miracle, but a question of necessity and survival.
Last, Iraqis do not really build their army from total zero. Some
older officers do have some experience from the Iraq-Iran war, and
that was a hard paid experience.
Post scriptum
There is at least one high-quality military force with long
tradition in Iraq. The Kurdish Peshmergas are not greenhorns by any
means, they used to fight Saddam very effectively, finally
wrestling self-control for Kurdistan from his hands.
Though they cannot and wouldn't act as "saviors" for the rest of
the country, they cannot be ignored either.
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