Warsaw Climate Change Conference Goes Into Overtime

Warsaw HallwayRonald BaileyWARSAW-“This COP is already locked in failure,” declared Anjali Appadurai at a press briefing as the 19th Conference of the Parties (COP-19) of the U.N. Climate Change Convention (UNFCCC) slouched toward its close on Friday night. She added, “This COP has delivered nothing.” As it happens, Appadurai was one of the activists who participated in the “massive” walkout of self-styled civil society at the conference on Thursday, but there she was on the podium at as representative of the Third World Network. Never mind. The environmental ministers and diplomats are still at it trying shape some kind of deal.

So what would “success” look like to Appadurai and other climate change activists here at the Warsaw conference? First, the rich countries would have to admit their historical responsibility for damaging the climate and commit to cutting their greenhouse emissions by 40 percent below what they emitted in 1990. Currently, developed nations have committed to cuts amounting to about 18 percent by 2020.

Second, it is not enough that the rich countries promised in 2009 at the Copenhagen climate change conference to “mobilize” $100 billion per year in climate change funding for poor countries beginning in 2020. Meena Raman, another representative of the Third World Network, cited the demands from the Like-Minded Developing Countries for $70 billion in climate change funding by 2015. The poor countries are also adamant that the billions “mobilized” by rich countries should not come from the private sector: that’s just way too uncertain. Poor country governments will accept only public funds in the form of grants.

Citing the awful devastation wreaked on the Philippines by Typhoon Haiyan, the poor country negotiators claim is that it's far too late to mitigate or adapt to climate change. It’s now time to pay for the effects of climate change. So the third demand from poor countries is that the rich countries set up a separate funding mechanism in addition to the annual $100 billion already promised to compensate poor countries for the loss and damage caused by climate change.

The rich countries have been resisting all three of these demands. Instead, they are focusing on how to reach some kind of binding global treaty at the COP in Paris in 2015. Under that agreement all countries, rich and poor, are supposed to make nationally determined mitigation commitments. That is, each country is supposed tell the rest of the world how and by how much they plan to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions after the new treaty comes into force in 2020. Poor countries counter that they will not make any such commitments until the rich countries make firm climate change funding commitments.

The rich countries led by U.S. climate negotiator Todd Stern would count the conference a “success” if it achieved two things. First, negotiators would establish uniform greenhouse gas mitigation performance standards that could be compared directly across all countries. Second, the conference would adopt a timetable in which each country is expected to make its initial mitigation pledges public and available for criticism, preferably by late 2014 or early 2015. The rich countries also do not want to create a new loss and damage bureaucracy, but have those issues handled under the already existing adaptation provisions of the UNFCCC.

The COP was supposed to close at 6 pm (CET) but the negotiations continue and are expected to run well into the night. My final dispatch from the Warsaw climate conference, reporting on what it delivered, if anything, will appear on Monday

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    Meena Raman, another representative of the Third World Network, cited the demands from the Like-Minded Developing Countries for $70 billion in climate change funding by 2015

    Hilarious. Demand all you want, self-described poor countries who can't make wealthy powerful countries do shit!

  • GILMORE||

    Imagine how they would rob a bank =

    PUT THE MONEY IN THE BAGS, OR I PROMISE WE WILL WALK OUT IN A HUFF! DONT MAKE ME RE-READ OUR STATEMENT ON UNIVERSAL HUMAN RIGHTS AGAIN!

  • Almanian!||

    AND I'LL NEED THE KEYS TO YOUR CAR! YOU DON'T THINK I'M WALKING OUT OF HERE, DO YOU?

    BUT IF YOU DON'T GIVE ME THE KEYS, I WILL WALK OUT IN A HUFF. A BIG HUFF!

  • tarran||

    You know, 300 years ago, the economy couldn't support such a huge parasitic class. One of the drawbacks of the advance of civilization, I guess.

    Since Epi doesn't do morning links, I repeat an earlier post for his edification: another drawback, doing something just as worthless as all the delegates bloviating in Warsaw.

  • ||

    How did you get that link? Those are my personal pictures, to share with my Brony bros!

  • tarran||

    Nothing is private anymore, Episiarch. Once you transmit something electronically, then it's only a matter of time before everyone sees it.

    The only way to prevent leaks is to somehow manipulate time and space by sheer force of will to delete the data and people's awareness of it. Do you have that power, Episiarch? I thought not.

  • ||

    (concentrates, makes tarran never have existed at all)

  • GILMORE||

    who were you talking to? American?

  • Tonio||

    Oh, good one, Gilmore.

  • playa manhattan||

    The comments are.... interesting. Mostly nitpicking him for not doing the costume "correctly".

  • Almanian!||

    Bibs United States
    October 31, 2013 I see eight reasons why you shouldn’t dress up as a character of another gender or species

  • Jayburd||

    The little dog in the first picture looks disgusted.

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    “This COP is already locked in failure,” declared Anjali Appadurai at a press briefing as the 19th Conference of the Parties (COP-19) of the U.N. Climate Change Convention (UNFCCC) slouched toward its close on Friday night. She added, “This COP has delivered nothing.”

    You know who else was locked in failure and delivered nothing in Warsaw?

  • Sevo||

    "delivered nothing" is a pretty good description.

  • PD Scott||

    Unless someone signed for it, you can't prove nothing was delivered.

  • Raston Bot||

    Why is the US even participating in this mummer's farce?

  • The DerpRider||

    It's all a Roose!

  • PD Scott||

    So enviro-lefty bureaucrats can meet and sleep with like minded foreigners?

  • ||

    They can agree to whatever targets they want, nobody is going to reach them and there is no enforcement mechanism.

  • Mike M.||

    "I'm yawning. I'm yawning some more. AND, zzzzzzzzz."

  • GILMORE||

    "there she was on the podium at as representative of the Third World Network. "

    Am I the only one who gets irritated by the use of "3rd world" to refer to some un-named group of "mythically united undeveloped nations", when in fact that term means nothing of the sort?

    (not to mention even if it did... there's STILL no 'united group of undeveloped nations' that said progtard could claim to speak in the name of)

    e.g
    "The term Third World arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either NATO (with the United States, Western European nations and their allies representing the First World), or the Communist Bloc "

    Meaning, fucking Japan would be considered "third world", you dumb cunt.

    If you're going to use the term to describe "periphery" nations, or "undeveloped nations".... then I have a quick question = what the fuck are the other *2* worlds again?

    I think they say it because they think it sounds cool. Seriously. They're just Illinois Nazis in my book.

  • GILMORE||

    *note = I think japan signed the PfP agreement or something in 2002 with NATO, but still.... MY POINT

  • Pro Libertate||

    I'd say Japan was and is pretty aligned with the U.S., NATO or no NATO, but I agree otherwise.

    I recall 1st world and 2nd world having somewhat different meanings decades ago.

  • GILMORE||

    MY POINT

    Name 3 worlds! NOW

    This is seriouly just as important as when someone says, "Yeah, I like the Grateful Dead", and then some uppity hippy is like, "Dude, Name 5 Songs NOW. And 'truckin' and 'touch of grey' are not among them"

    No, really = what's with this "3" shit, when all the mean is 'undeveloped' nations?

  • Almanian!||

    World of Warcraft
    World of Carpets
    World of Outlaws

    Three worlds, bitch! PWND!

    *mic drop*

  • GILMORE||

    arrrrgrgrggrggg, foiled again!

    (starts to evaporate into a puddle)

    you cursed brat, look what you've done, what a world, what a world, who would have thought a little girl like you could have.... oh shit... wrong.... script.... line?....burplgeepggeeghjhhh

    This said, if none of you have ever seen What's Up Tiger Lilly, I just found it on youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLU_-YMPX7I

    Its great. Its about 1960s-Japan's top secret-agent detective. Named Phil Moskowitz. Sountrack by the Lovin' Spoonful.

  • wareagle||

    I think it's nice of Ronald to pay attention to these folks so that we can laugh at them.

  • GILMORE||

    He gets free trip to Warsaw too. Where he can stroll in the sunshine by the banks of the fragrant Volga, and take in the plethora of quirky modern architecture left behind by the communists.

    (evil laugh)

  • GILMORE||

    FWIW, from what I can gather, the Third World whatever it is, is mainly an organization of South Asian countries who want economic leverage over trading partners. Which is understandable. And 'free shit' I suppose, if they feel they "received nothing" from the debates.

    Was no one in charge of the Party Favors?

    "I WAS AT THE UN CLIMATE CHANGE CONVENTION(UNFCCC WARSAW-2013!!) AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS SHITTY T-SHIRT"

  • PD Scott||

    Shouldn't that be a SHITTY FAIR TRADE t-shirt?

  • GILMORE||

    no, I think the irony is that the shitty free tshirt was made in Vietnam, which was one of their undeveloped nations principal exports = shitty tshirts.

    That's deep.

  • PD Scott||

    How about a knockoff shitty fair trade shirt?

  • Drave Robber||

    So they want a new Warsaw Pact or what?

    (needs more coffee)

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