A.M. Links: More Voters Consider Snowden a Whistleblower Than a Traitor, Obama Administration Wants Federal Employees Reporting Potential Whistleblowers, Democrats Want National Park on the Moon

  • i'll build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers20th Century FoxMore American voters view Edward Snowden as a whistleblower than a traitor. The Obama Administration, meanwhile, wants federal employees on the look out for “suspicious behavior” that could indicate whistleblowing.
  • House Republicans will vote to delay the individual mandate in Obamacare, since the Administration’s already delayed the employer mandate.
  • If you live in Detroit, 911’s a joke in your town.
  • Two Democrat members of Congress want to establish a national park on the moon.
  • Sarah Palin said she “considered” running for Senate in Alaska next year but would prefer to see new candidates take on the old politicians.
  • George W. Bush’s approval rating is now higher than Barack Obama’s as the former president rejoins the public dialogue as more than just a scapegoat.
  • Libertarian activist Adam Kokesh was arrested after posting a video of himself allegedly loading a shotgun in Washington, D.C.
  • The Muslim Brotherhood and the liberal opposition in Egypt have both rejected the military leadership’s timetable for new elections. Meanwhile, prosecutors ordered the arrest of the head of the Muslim Brotherhood for allegedly inciting violence.

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  • Lord Humungus||

    Man attacked by fox while sitting on toilet
    http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/09/.....t-3874887/

  • Ted S.||

    Congratulations on beating Fisty. Or getting your comment back-dated; one or the other.

  • Lord Humungus||

    the good guys have to win a few battles. As long as we continue to fight, the evil that is FoE will be defeated - someday.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It would have been nice if you had taken the time to actually address the official links, though. But technically hollow victories are still victories, I suppose.

  • Lord Humungus||

    ah, now I see the depths of your malevolence.

  • BuSab Agent||

    I hope not. Only Warty has seen the depths of FoE's malevolence and we all see how that turned out.

  • DJF||

    The NSA neither confirms nor denies that it is instituting a new fox tracking program. However they did say that the scourge of fox terrorism is a high priority.

  • gaijin||

    Fox news is unreliable

  • Enough About Palin||

    "Man attacked by fox while sitting on toilet"

    Who knew Megan was into toilet tricks?!

  • NeonCat||

    "It was so frightening! It was like a wild animal!"

    It WAS a wild animal, idiot.

    See Brits, this is what happens when you ban hunting: foxes attack you in the loo.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The Obama Administration, meanwhile, wants federal employees on the look out for “suspicious behavior” that could indicate whistleblowing.

    Bureaucrat vs. bureaucrat!

  • VG Zaytsev||

    "Those who fail to report them could face penalties, including criminal charges."

    That's straight up Stalinist reign of terror shit.

  • AlexInCT||

    You exagerate! There are no reeducation or death camps, so this isn't so bad at all!

    /sarc

  • Doctor Whom||

    As long as we are free to buy books about Stalinism, it's wrong to make any comparison to Stalinism.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    "I didn't fail to report, I failed to see it as suspicious."

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    "Show me the man and I will find you the crime."

  • carol||

    A few years back I got a visit from two agents from DHS because I had failed to report a transaction that they had deemed suspicious (I work in a credit union). Let me tell you those people have no fricking sense of humor. The interview lasted about an hour and they did a wonderful job of intimidating me. I haven't changed how I decide what to report but that meeting is always in the back of my mind.

  • Rich||

    The initiative goes beyond classified information leaks. It includes as insider threats “damage to the United States through ... degradation of departmental resources or capabilities,” according to a document setting “Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs.”

    Whatever you do, don't break the copier.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    WTF is degradation of departmental resources or capabilities? It's like these assholes think they're capable in the first place.

  • DontShootMe||

    Basically anything you do with equipment is going to cause "degradation." This is the "charge somebody we don't like" clause. If they can't find anything else to pin on you, this'll work.

  • Rich||

    This.

    These clowns are totally bonkers about this shit.

  • crashland||

    Wouldn't smashing computers to get rid of malware qualify?

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    TERRIRIZM!

  • CatoTheElder||

    Is is me, or does this really sound like something in an Orwell novel?

  • AlexInCT||

    Orwell's novel was fiction....

  • DontShootMe||

    Somebody in the Obama administration got confused watching a commercial for "Dianetics", thought they were talking about Orwell instead of Hubbard, now, Orwell's works are "like an owners manual for the human mind" for these folks...

  • Lord Humungus||

    or a Phillip K. Dick novel

  • ||

    More Red on Red, pls!

  • DJF||

    Comrades, we must be ever vigilant against the wreckers who work with the clergy, bourgeoisie, capitalists and other enemies of the people.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    Just reading Vargas Llosa's War at the End of the World.
    Only about 20 percent through (very long novel) but I'm completely captivated. CN says "check it out."

  • sarcasmic||

    Bureaucrat vs. bureaucrat!

    Doubtful. Bureaucrats look out for each other. It's the contractors who will be under the microscope.

  • ||

    And when a contractor reports a bureaucrat, he or she will be fired. The contractor, I mean. the bureaucrat will be just fine.

  • sarcasmic||

    Whenever I go visit the customer, there are tons of government people standing around and talking. Doing nothing. In fact it's hard to find anyone who is working. Other than my fellow contractors that is. Though lately the contractors leave early when they get their work done and come to the offsite office. Why? Because a bureaucrat tried to get them fired for standing around and talking.

  • ||

    I can't figure out what half of these gubmint employees around here actually do. There is one web site we have in our portfolio that is 100% maintained by contractors - everything form development to taxonomy to training. Yet it has at least 2 bureaucrats attached to it. These bureaucrats don't even know how to post new content, even though we're using a ridiculously easy CMS. I have no clue what they do all day except refresh the site and create help tickets when something goes wrong.

  • AlexInCT||

    I can't figure out what half of these gubmint employees around here actually do.

    Harrass law abiding citizens, out of some morbid need to make themselves feel worthy, and collect a paycheck on someone else's dime. That's what practically all of them do.

  • sarcasmic||

    It's only a relatively small number of government employees who harass people. For every government employee who harasses people there are probably a hundred or more who collect paychecks for occupying desks.

  • ||

    My rule of thumb is that if a government department works, it will have 2 workers who do everything. If it functions, there will be one. Most have zero. I've even seen a department with 3 hard workers, but they eventually left for other jobs because their department had gained a reputation as superstars.

  • Pi Guy||

    Rule 34

  • ||

    I heard about this yesterday. What have we become?

    The conditions in detroit and now this suspicion with everyone spying on everyone is the inevitable outcome of leftist policies. Every time it has been tried in the past it has led there, and everytime in the future it is tried it will.

    It is impossible to measure just how stupid people are to have come down this road.

    For those of y ou who voted for Obama or any left wing politician, and support left wing policies, in other words idiots, FUCK YOU.

    I just pray when it all falls apart, and it will, that it does so peacefully.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    I just pray when it all falls apart, and it will, that it does so peacefully.

    I wouldn't count on it. Leftist violence is ALWAYS ugly. Always.

  • Matrix||

    Nikki Haley talks about child abuse
    But it's the Liberals in the comments who really make this worth a read...

  • RBS||

    Republicans Are The American Taliban
    And now, she enjoys abusing women herself.
  • Matrix||

    Yeah... Republicans are literally the Taliban. They routinely run around cutting children's heads off and gunning down villagers who speak out against them. They are EXACTLY like that.

    Hail Obama.

  • crashland||

    Well, we do force jezebel commenters to wear burkas and they have all been prevented from being meaningfully educated past the second grade.

  • T||

    They brought their lack of education on themselves by getting Victimology degrees. We didn't force that upon them.

  • Lord Humungus||

    I wish jezebel commentators would wear burkas. It would save some eye damage.

  • Spoonman.||

    Wow. Don't read the comments. Damn.

  • Matrix||

    Yeah, it shows just how utterly repugnant the proglodytes are. They aren't even afraid to hide their true feelings. They have no thought or care about reconciling their contradictions.

    And if you dare make any budget cuts to anything involving the poor, children, or families, no matter how bad your revenues are, you are a scum of the earth type person. Nevermind that these progs could go out and make monetary and time donations to help out children. No. The government must use the money they steal from others, and money they just don't have to keep propping these initiatives up. Anything less, and you are HITLER!

  • RBS||

    And if you dare make any budget cuts to anything involving the poor, children, or families, no matter how bad your revenues are, you are a scum of the earth type person.

    yep

  • Matrix||

  • ||

    Why am I not shocked?

  • CatoTheElder||

    This is really shocking evidence of a pollster's ability to exploit the mindlessness of many people. I love the facepalms. Of course, they probably heard a more factual presentation of the petition and spent more time evaluating the petition than they did in deciding to vote for Obama.

    I think the more worrisome is the prevalence of the attitude my mother-in-law expressed during an after-dinner family discussion about the Snowden affair: "People talk too much about the Bill of Rights. I'm tired of hearing it. I just want the government to do whatever keeps us safe."

    The situation is hopeless.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Kindly kick your MiL in the clam.

  • Pope Jimbo||

    Those drones don't look as aerodynamic as I expected.

  • wwhorton||

    Well, there's only one way to find out...

  • Lord Humungus||

    Phantom sex noises in Phuket, voodoo suspected
    http://www.phuketgazette.net/p.....21517.html

    An inconclusive police investigation has prompted a Phuket woman to publicly appeal for help in unravelling the mysterious “sex noises” she keeps hearing at her Chalong home.

    Onanong Waltham, 46, accompanied by her housemate Sujittraporn Tephabutra, made her public appeal at the Phuket Press Club yesterday afternoon.

    “I keep hearing moaning sounds in my house. It sounds like people making love,” said Ms Onanong, a resident at the Land & Houses Park Preuksachart Lake View housing estate, located behind Wat Chalong
  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    Warty is astral projecting all the way to Phuket?!

  • Slammer||

    Sujittraporn.

    I chuckled.

  • Ted S.||

    You missed Onanong.

  • Rich||

    Good catch.

  • CatoTheElder||

    Phuket.

  • Pi Guy||

    And Phuket

  • Lord Humungus||

    I'm covering the Phuket beat.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    Just watch out for tsunami and behead-y Muslim rebels.

  • Rasilio||

    Phuket, is that in Northern Indiana between Gary and Union Gap?

  • KMA Too||

    "I think Shithouse Falls in Arkansas, bo."

  • Mr. Soul||

    yeah, and my porn name is Lady Willpower.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    House Republicans will vote to delay the individual mandate in Obamacare...

    And here I thought the GOP plan was to give the administration just enough rope...

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    Actually, I eagerly await Harry Reid's response to this evilmongery.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    They're not called the stupid party for nuttin.

  • ||

    I kind of wish it was their turn to be the evil party.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    Why is this stupid, exactly?

  • crashland||

    Let the individual mandate go into effect prior to 2014 elections and allow TEAM BLUE to gag on the results.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    It's going to, anyway, unless the executive branch declines to enforce it.

    The House Republicans would basically be voting to show what hypocrites the Ds are and what a duplicitous fuck the president is, with no risk that their bill would actually become law.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    The democrats will push back enforcement till after the next elections and the next and the next because doing otherwise will be electoral suicide.

    The republicans shouldn't help them in that endeavor.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    The only way it can be pushed without Republicans is for a Democrat president to do it on his own. And the Republicans probably couldn't stop that, anyway.

    And, really, if you can't get a repeal why would pushing it back indefinitely not be the next best option?

  • crashland||

    Yes and no, having it hang like the Sword of Damocles over the heads of business who have to act like it could drop at anytime at the whim of our dear leader isn't doing anything to help our economy.

    Perhaps if they intro a bill called "Putting Americans Back to Work" and in that bill simply repealed Obamacare, the GOP could use focus the narrative on the job killing effects of the bill.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    Yeah, I can see both sides. I just don't see why a Republican vote in the House is stupid, since it will never become law anyway. It's a symbolic vote that might even have the effect of forcing Dems to vote to keep the individual mandate in place while their leader unilaterally pushes back the employer mandate. It seems like a win/win for the Republicans.

  • CatoTheElder||

    Few will notice an adverse effect of 2014 implementation until they file tax returns in 2015.

    From my experience, serious tax planning is very rare among individual filers. Many filers are unaffected anyway since their employers provide insurance. Of those who do tax planning, most already have an idea of how they're affect by the PPACA.

  • ||

    The penaltax for 2015 is $95 for people who realistically won't have health insurance. Most of whom get automatic refunds when they file from H&R Block. They won't even notice it until 2017.

  • ||

    Enough rope to hang who? This is the stupid party we are talking about.

  • mnarayan||

    Cleveland fan requests Browns "let him down one last time".

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I request someone else post this story, so it can let me down one more time.

  • mnarayan||

    Fine! I'll post it again on tomorrow's Morning Links just to please you.

    *walks away grumbling about how much work you people demand*

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Sarah Palin said she “considered” running for Senate in Alaska next year but would prefer to see new candidates take on the old politicians.

    Hopefully she's not the only one.

  • Lord Humungus||

    John Bolton: Mubarak understood his country better than Western know-it-alls
    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/o.....story.html

    Just two-and-a-half years ago, advocates of “the Arab Spring” argued it would bring democracy to the Middle East and end terrorism’s attraction in the Muslim world. Large demonstrations, especially in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, filled Western television screens, and our media reported excitedly that the Internet-age demonstrators used Facebook and Twitter. The fall of Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, in power for three decades, embodied the widely accepted narrative that ousting authoritarian regimes was easy, costless and unambiguously positive.

    But not all street demonstrators are Jeffersonian democrats, not all users of social media are Thoreau-style idealists, and not all post-authoritarian regimes are better than what they replace.
  • robc||

    not all post-authoritarian regimes are better than what they replace.

    But it is always worth it to try.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Yeah, because Western know-it-alls facilitated the overthrow. We were just dumb enough to open our damn mouths and say some stupid shit. Meanwhile, Bolton is just fine with all sorts of human rights abuses, as long as the abuser is pro-America.

  • crashland||

    I'll take a pro-American dictator over a popularly elected islamist any day of the week. Realpolitik ain't purty but can work to keep things stable.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Our (and the Soviets) history in the Middle East and support of these dictators is what created these Islamic types in the first place. The Islamists were the only ones crazy/tough enough to oppose the government while surviving and propagating their numbers. Iran is the perfect example, a relatively Western-inclined nation that threatened the BP controlled oil supply and ended up under a Western controlled dictator that stifled any attempts at political reform.

    By the same token, I suppose you would be just fine with an authoritarian dictatorship in the USA to keep the peace as well. Secret police are A-OK as long as the wrong people aren't in charge, that's the philosophy we promoted throughout the Middle East. We're just naive enough to think that a transition to anything else is going to be pleasant now.

  • crashland||

    We fucked up in Iran well before the Mullahs took over.

    A dictator that we can influence is much preferable to an islamist run regime. We can incent the dictator to improve on human rights, with islamists not so much.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    We fucked up in Iran well before the Mullahs took over.

    That's my point.

    We can incent the dictator to improve on human rights, with islamists not so much.

    I'm not seeing much evidence of that. At best, we have been able to incentivize them not to attack their neighbor (specifically Israel) while leaving them a free hand to abuse their own people.

  • Mike M.||

    Our (and the Soviets) history in the Middle East and support of these dictators is what created these Islamic types in the first place.

    Wrong.

    "The core problem with the United States, for Qutb, was not something Americans did, but simply what America was — 'the New World...is spellbinding.' It was more than a land of pleasures without limit. In America, unlike in Egypt, dreams could come true. Qutb understood the danger this posed: America’s dazzle had the power to blind people to the real zenith of civilization, which for Qutb began with Muhammad in the seventh century and reached its apex in the Middle Ages, carried triumphantly by Muslim armies."

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    While I don't wholly disagree with you, I would argue that the environment in which Qutb could thrive was created and enabled by the major superpowers from World War I and on thru till today. First it was the Brits, then the Cold War, then the USA's random attempts to justify our continuing involvement in the region, usually in the name of Israel or Saudi Arabia.

    Partisans don't thrive in societies where the economy is vibrant and people enjoy freedom. They depend on resentment to grow their numbers and power.

  • Mike M.||

    If you don't spend your life dreaming about wiping all the Jews and Christians off the face of the planet, that makes you "pro-American".

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Realpolitik is realizing we ultimately have little control over who's in charge in Egypt and should focus on working with whomever it ends up being rather than worrying who we would like better.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    This. And working with someone does not mean financially supporting their military.

  • AlexInCT||

    In that part of the world working with and paying Baksheesh are synonymous. Can't have one without the other. That’s their culture. If you want to be friends you buy that friendship. If not, they go elsewhere. Now if we are OK with that, then we can stop paying for bad friendship, but we should be aware that even that has a cost. Not justifying what we do, just pointing out that sometimes you deal with shitty people, and have no good options.

  • wwhorton||

    And realism (well, neorealism) is understanding that it doesn't really matter what's in the billiard balls, because they all behave the same way towards each other. The nastiest dictatorship and the fuzziest, happiest Jeffersonian paradise both interact with other countries with the end goal of furthering national aims, constrained mainly by the ability of other states to stop them.

    In other words, dictator oil costs the same and burns as well as freedom oil.

  • Drake||

    The problem is that people think Democracy is a good thing - not the worst form of government ever invented. What kind of idiot looks at a mob on the streets of Cairo (or anywhere in the Arab world) and thinks they ought to run the country?

  • ||

    But not all street demonstrators are Jeffersonian democrats

    Say whaaaa....?

  • robc||

    This debate is older than our constitution.

    It is Adams v Jefferson over the French Revolution all over again.

    The Jeffersonians are over-optimistic. The Adamsites are properly pessimistic.

    I stand with the Jeffersonians while expecting the Adamsites to be correct.

  • Drake||

    It's Sparta versus Athens. All the Spartans really had to do was wait for the Athenians to do something suicidally stupid - like invade Sicily.

  • Lord Humungus||

    THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    While I agree with your analogy, it's even more complicated than that. It would be the same if we were financially supporting the French monarchy and looking the other way while they abused their populace. The built-in resentment that our policies have facilitated have made it worse than it would have been otherwise. There's no way for us to come out smelling like roses at this point.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    What would Bolton have had us do? Invade Egypt to keep Mubarrak in power? Yeah, I'm sure that would have gone well.

    Or is this another one of those "had Mitt Romney only been in charge, this wouldn't have happened, because no one, even thousands of rioting Egyptians, could possibly resist his charm" delusions?

  • B.P.||

    Mitt Romney has disappeared from the face of the planet and no one is talking about him. Where are you seeing these delusional pieces you speak of?

    Someone's charm was way oversold, but it wasn't Romney's.

    (standard not-a-Romney-supporter disclaimers, etc.)

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Where are you seeing these delusional pieces you speak of?

    "Mitt Romney will restore our military, repair relations with our closest allies, and ensure that no adversary—including Iran—ever questions American resolve." -- John Bolton

    Such is the force of nature that is the Romney charisma that no one on earth would even think of disobeying him!

  • B.P.||

    Ah, so you're being Bolton-specific and not speaking of punditry at-large. Fair enough.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Libertarian activist Adam Kokesh was arrested after posting a video of himself allegedly loading a shotgun in Washington, D.C.

    Shouldn't he get the David Gregory exemption?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    He's lucky he didn't get the David Koresh treatment.

  • gaijin||

    Shouldn't he get the David Gregory exemption?

    He's certainly done as much journalism as Gregory!

  • Gordilocks||

    23 seconds of failure. Kokesh doesn't have the profile of activists in the past to fight his fight from jail.

    His narcissism has gotten the best of him.

  • sarcasmic||

    That's a little fruity! Woman finds strawberry shaped like a penis in her garden


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....arden.html

    'I must admit I did think it was a bit small. It would be nice if it grew a bit bigger,' said Carole Collen

    I bet.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    Sometimes the punch lines just write themselves, right?

  • sarcasmic||

    The article said something about auctioning the thing off. Will they dip it in white chocolate first?

  • Rich||

    RACIST!

  • H. ReardEn||

    Just the tip.

  • ||

    The look on her face is priceless.

  • Lord Humungus||

    you leave Epi's mom alone!

  • Enough About Palin||

    Sometimes a strawberry is just a strawberry.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Meanwhile, prosecutors ordered the arrest of the head of the Muslim Brotherhood for allegedly inciting violence.

    Sounds like the interim leadership is off to a good start.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Yes, clearly the new guy arresting all his political opponents is much better than the last guy arresting all his political opponents.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Each regime is going to learn from the last that liberty doesn't pay. I assume the leadership that replaces this group in the inevitable Arab Fall will go right to firing squads.

  • Lord Humungus||

    News you can use - today!

    America's Most Feces-Polluted Beaches, Mapped
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com.....ped/66885/

    Every year, the Natural Resources Defense Council compiles its "Testing the Waters" guide to the cleanliness of beaches on the coasts and the Great Lakes. And every year, the results vary: Some of our beaches are consistently pristine; others, very much not.
  • KDN||

    Oh look, another reason to avoid Atlantic City.

  • Marc F Cheney||

    Ugh. Well done, Michigan City.

  • ||

    Other than the Great Lakes, there are no freshwater beaches on there. Back in the 80's, the beaches near Burlington, VT were rife (or ripe?) with shit.

    During Bernie Sanders' tenure as mayor, incidentally. Or maybe not so incidentally?

  • Raven Nation||

    I find it interesting that the flags of France & Belgium were used as markers of some kind.

  • wwhorton||

    Sandy Point State Park gets 4 stars???? What the hell does it take to lose a star??

    There's a reason someone made a horror movie about what happens when you come into prolonged contact with the Chesapeake Bay...

  • Auric Demonocles||

    George W. Bush’s approval rating is now higher than Barack Obama’s as the former president rejoins the public dialogue as more than just a scapegoat.

    My god, the bastard actually did it. They said no one could pull it off, but he fucking did it. Now just imagine if Obama put his effort into doing something positive.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    My god, the bastard actually did it. They said no one could pull it off, but he fucking did it.

    And it only took him just 4.5 years instead of nearly 8.

  • ||

    I think BP and I were talking about this earlier in the week, but this is what a good game looks like for the USMNT in soccer. We might have what it takes to play with the average Euro team by 2014.

  • Ted S.||

    Hey hey hey. The US got draws against England and Slovenia at the last World Cup.

    Oh, you said "average" Euro teams.

  • robc||

    You beat me to it and with a funnier joke (maybe).

  • robc||

    We drew with England in the 2010 WC. We can already play with the AVERAGE Euro teams.

    Now we just have to figure out how to beat the AVERAGE African teams, like Ghana.

  • Ted S.||

    Don't get me started on the Ghana Rhea.

    Bastards got a 120th minute goal to beat Chile in the under-20s. Go France!

  • BakedPenguin||

    Yep, they crushed a team they should crush. Both teams got goals on questionable calls, but had it been 5-0, it's still a worthwhile result against a minnow.

    Ironically, I thought the Belize goalkeeper did pretty well. That's a funny thing to say in a game where 6 goals went against him, but I think it could have been worse.

  • ||

    Yeah. It sucks to play goalie when your defense is that outclassed. They could at least stand around and take up angles.

  • Raven Nation||

    Still did better than Tahiti at the Confederations Cup.

  • Drake||

    It looks like an awesome 2-hour nap to me.

  • Lord Humungus||

    more like 3.

  • Lord Humungus||

    Detroit’s Greek tragedy
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

    Prominent among them are public-employee unions — 47 in all, from organized crossing guards to the Association of Professional Construction Inspectors. Contracts permitted employees to “bump” from job to job based solely on seniority, “without regard to merit, relevant qualifications or experience,” the report says.

    Generous pension and retiree health benefits gobbled up tax dollars — more than 38 percent of the city’s revenue in fiscal 2012 alone — that would otherwise have paid for public services.
  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Raaacccciissssst

  • mad libertarian guy||

    The entire concept behind public sector unions is dastardly, but a crossing guard union just baffles. Will these people go and get a real fucking job instead of bleeding the taxpayers dry?

  • Lord Humungus||

    What do men who’ve answered the real call of duty think about military games?
    http://www.digitaltrends.com/g.....ary-games/

    A connection between military shooters and real world violence is almost a given according to many, despite there being no real evidence to support that claim. It is a sad consequence of the prevalence of such tragedies in recent years, and it gives an easy answer to an almost impossibly difficult question. But beyond the scores of pundits, mental health experts, and outraged politicians, one group is mysteriously underrepresented in their opinions on the subject – soldiers. How do those who have actually seen combat feel about these simulations of their experiences? And how have their opinions on military shooters been altered by real-life combat?
  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    I don't play them, and have no desire to either. Just not a source of fun - but that is just me. Anyone wants to plunk down their money for the game, have at you!

    That article was a bit wandering off subject at times, but overall made the point - it is not a game making anyone do anything to anyone.

  • ||

    I feel the same way. There is nothing fun about shooting people or having people shoot at you.

    I have seen my step-son playing and I didnt see anything there that actually resembled reality except in the most superficial way.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    I believe FPS's to Real Combat are teh same as GT4 is to a real auto race...as in not at all.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    One of my high school friends has a brother who served. I used to play Halo with him, and he was amazing. He played with (though typically lost) to MLG guys. When we started playing against him after he got out, he would regularly win 4 or 5 on 1 matches by something like 25-2. Eventually I got improved enough by playing with him that I could win 1 out of every 5 matches. He loved that game (though I'm not sure if they would classify it as a 'military' game exactly).

  • Drake||

    I was in the Infantry in the First Gulf War and have played some of those games. I don't see any harm in them.

    I'll never beat the average 12-year-old, but I play much better when I remember the real-world rules that were drilled into my head. Stay well away from windows, minimize times in doorways, avoid fields and other open killzones, etc...

  • Auric Demonocles||

    When you start playing higher-skill team games the teamwork and strategy becomes more and more important.

  • Drake||

    That sounds like a time commitment I'll never make.

  • Gray Ghost||

    Some of the youtube videos of various Arma 2 clans are just nuts with all of the detail and organization that go into one of their sessions. And in a game where getting hit once pretty much ends your session. Which is one of the fun things about playing it vs the various CoD or Halo games.

    I agree with Drake that it sounds more like a job than I really want to have during my time off.

  • wwhorton||

    Ooooh, Arma...

    The first time I played Arma II I was hooked. Battlefield is fun and all, but it really is a military simulator as opposed to an FPS/TPS.

  • Rasilio||

    That's the main reason why I never got into playing them, the time investment it takes to actually get passingly decent at them is just too large

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Stay to the edge of the map.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    Funny thing about paintball as an analog, it ALSO isn't close. My college buddies and I would routinely beat the crap out of guys from the military branches. Guys who didn't play paintball often that is. Funniest thing is seeing a guy crawling on the ground. Still makes me laugh.

  • db||

    My brother in law served in combat and he plays shooters quite a bit. I think he prefers MMORPGs and flying games though.

  • T||

    Ehh, it's whether or not you like video games more than anything else. I play Halo more than the 'real world' shooters, but I've been a sci-fi guy since I was lower case. I don't think there's any larger lessons to draw from it.

    As far as simulations go, they're decent. No game is ever going to be as loud and you can't get the smell. But the whole death comes from everywhere and you can't possibly see everything is pretty accurate.

  • Ted S.||

    Two Democrat members of Congress want to establish a national park on the moon.

    Never mind the inanity of this idea; it's likely illegal.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    You think Pro Lib and I care about your piece of paper? Do you really think paper beats moon-rock?

  • Pro Libertate||

    Did they specify which moon? Maybe they were thinking of Enceladus? Nice place for cross-country skiing and spectacular views of Saturn.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    It'd be a lot of work to move the Lunar lander to Enceladus.

    Especially when you and I are sitting next to it with a bunch of big rocks and all they have is a piece of paper back on Earth.

  • Pro Libertate||

    We're going to put the adverse in adverse possession.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    We should start thinking up our one-liners.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Rock, scissors, VAPOR!

  • thom||

    Let's see what SCOTUS says before we go and jump to conclusions.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Yo, fuck the government. Make it a private park. Then it's arguably not a treaty violation.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    How many times am I going to have to point out that in space, paper does not beat rock?

    SLD: This is not saying that it should be a public park.

  • Rrabbit||

    Two Democrat members of Congress want to establish a national park on the moon.

    I support this, with suitable modifications:
    1.) It is called US Congress National Park
    2.) Every member of Congress who has been caught lying to the public three times gets a one-way ticket to Congress National Park.

  • ||

    The Black Keys are okay guys.

    Rock band The Black Keys have the back of one Little League team. Literally.

    The Grammy-winning band — best known for songs such as "Gold on the Ceiling" and "Tighten Up" — sponsored a team this season in the West Akron Baseball League in Ohio, a league in which the band's drummer Patrick Carney and guitarist/vocalist Dan Auerbach used to play as kids.

    In the process, this collaboration created one of the coolest shirseys that the world of under-10 baseball has ever seen — with "The Black Keys" scrawled across the back, looking just like it does on the band's "El Camino" album cover.

  • sarcasmic||

    Anthony Bourdain hung out with them on one of his many shows. They seemed like a cool bunch.

  • Apple||

    I really like their tunes, but it was this clip where they school a Canadian douche about "selling out" that sold me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHnXyNNpd1s

  • sarcasmic||

    Thanks for sharing that.
    Here's them and Bourdain hanging out on No Reservations.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-BYb7fH0So

  • Cliché Bandit||

    damn...awesome.

  • ||

    TOOL's Hooker with a Penis remains my gold standard on this issue.

  • Ted S.||

    The Grammy-winning band — best known for songs such as "Gold on the Ceiling" and "Tighten Up"

    Ahem. Tighten Up. Nobody can top it.

    In the process, this collaboration created one of the coolest shirseys

    "Shirseys"??

  • robc||

    The only people worse than people who film their TV screen is people who then post their links.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEOmef9PmiU

  • Pro Libertate||

    Someday, the people of Titan will adopt that as their national anthem.

  • ||

    Nothing beats Chico's Bail Bonds as a Little League sponsor.

  • Slammer||

    +1 Buttermaker

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Two Democrat members of Congress want to establish a national park on the moon.

    Newt Gingrich and Alice Kramden like this idea.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    +1 to the Moon!

  • db||

    It was a metaphor!

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    They must have visited Tomorrowland at Disneyland and gotten worried that some evil corporation was going to exploit the moon's natural resources from the moon colonies.

  • Lord Humungus||

    Michael McConnell: Obama Suspends the Law
    Like King James II, the president decides not to enforce laws he doesn't like. That's an abuse of power.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....on_LEADTop

    Article II, Section 3, of the Constitution states that the president "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." This is a duty, not a discretionary power. While the president does have substantial discretion about how to enforce a law, he has no discretion about whether to do so.
  • VG Zaytsev||

    It's a tactic from the democrats Jim Crow playbook.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Again with the technicalities tying up our President's attempts to serve the public! And this "James II" sounds like some sort of white guy.

  • Ball-sac||

    If American President GWB had had half a dick, he would've nominated this guy for the Supreme Court. Truth.

  • Lord Humungus||

    Police in China said smugglers had 46-year-old chicken feet
    http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/20.....373314151/

    Police in Guangxi province announced this week they seized 22 tons of expired meat from the Vietnamese smuggling network in May, including expired chicken feet, tripe and throat that were destined for the Chinese food market, The Daily Telegraph, Britain, reported Monday.

    Investigators told state-run Xinhua News Agency the expired products included chicken feet dating back to 1967.
  • AlexInCT||

    More American voters view Edward Snowden as a whistleblower than a traitor.

    So those of us ablle to think outnumber the tools simply swallowing the narrative? At least for now. I am sure the NSA & IRS are being tasked to deal with that probllem.

  • ||

    For sloopy and our other OSU fans.

    A 12-year-old boy just proved that in his fight against cancer.

    Grant Reed was diagnosed with a brain tumor in 2011. A member of a diehard Ohio State family, Reed nicknamed his disease “Michigan.” And now, he has beaten it.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Does a life sucking tumor really deserve the dishonor of being compared to UofM?

  • sloopyinca||

    I guess they 'll nickname that particular radiation dose a Tressel from now on.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Two Democrat members of Congress want to establish a national park on the moon.

    You'll have to get there first, you bloated, ineffective losers. In case you weren't aware, you actually have to leave LEO more than every 40 years to have a Moon park.

    On a similar note, I just took over a project with NASA as the customer from my no-longer-with-the-company manager. All the actual work is done, but they want a bunch of documentation written up. I feel like I'm back in college taking one of the required humanities courses. I don't know if I can delay starting on this essay much longer.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Begin it with this statement: "LEO is for losers."

  • Auric Demonocles||

    That seems like a good abstract.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's even more insulting since they can't actually get to even LEO without Russian help.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    That's not entirely true. They can also get to LEO by buying a trip from a private company.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Not with people, not yet. But, yes, I was thinking about SpaceX when I typed that.

    I know some people in the industry who think NASA is intentionally making the "man-rating" process tough for Dragon, just so NASA doesn't look bad when it has to go to SpaceX for transport. Kind of silly, really, if true.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Was there ever any doubt?

  • CatoTheElder||

    Great idea: they should also establish national parks on Venus and Mars.

    After establishing those parks, they can auction off Yellowstone and Yosemite without significantly diminishing the nation's square miles of national parks.

    They should also establish national parks on new planets discovered in distant solar systems as well.

    In all seriousness, this is indeed government at its very best.

  • Spoonman.||

    I am writing an essay this morning too. I know proposals are necessary to get work, but they're not nearly as much fun as SQL.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I wouldn't say that I am writing an essay this morning... I would say I *should* be writing this morning.

  • Spartacus||

    Same here. Mine is a program assessment report for my university that was due last week.

    Maybe we should all write each others' stuff. It would be something new and different.

  • ||

    Haha, I get to code most of this week! Last week I was justifying, I shit you not, data integration o(n the same network where all of the sources are MS SQL) via SSIS instead of the other contractor's crazy idea to use webservices. Next week I will be writing documentation to tell the sales/service people how to extract tables into Access and run a set of reports as a "chart extraction solution". The shame of it is that it works. Slowly, inefficiently, but like a fucking champ with very little code. I am always surprised at how someone with no coding experience can do stuff like that in Access. Its shit for enterprise level stuff, but damned if it doesn't work just fine for one offs.

  • Lord Humungus||

    In my department, Access is a dirty word.

  • ||

    Access is a dirty word.

    I got my start in coding because a multibillion dollar company had an Access app that ran in their Houston office and wanted to take it multi-office. Having to support that piece of shit while we wrote an actual web front end and put the back end in SQL, none of us programmers, one of us a decent DB guy, gives me great respect for both Access's abilities and limitations.

  • AlexInCT||

    I worked as a contractor for GE back in the day when Access licenses were $5 a pop but VB cost $125. So guess what platform they wanted all development in?

    I eventually managed to prod them into .NET and Java, but it was a fight because they could not look past the cheap license fee to the other savings better technology provided.

    This was the same company that gave me a $10K bonus for reducing a software distribution from 5 3 1/2 diskettes to only 4. They did have to send out some 50K copies of the thing for soem reason.

  • db||

    I used to work for a multibillion dollar corporation that decided that Access was unacceptable and everything needed to be moved to SAP. Of course, to move anything to SAP, you had to present a business case for paying corporate IT to design and implement a project to write it into SAP. So a lot of useful local VB and Access applications got abandoned and people went back to more primitive (than Access!) methods of storing useful information because of the time and expense it would take or because there would never be an expenditure authorized for $50k just to transcode a silly Access database.

  • Rasilio||

    Screw that, at this point I don't want NASA going to the Moon. Let NASA focus on sending out planetary missions, space telescopes, and developing cutting edge technologies and have Orbital, Xcor, and SpaceX take over the commercial market and within 20 years we'll see private companies going to the Moon

  • AuH20||

    If My Vagina Was a Gun.. A feminist poem for the protests in Texas:

    If my vagina was a gun, you would stand for its rights. You would ride on a bus and fight all the fights.

    If my vagina was a gun, you would treat it with care. You wouldn’t spill all its secrets, because, well, why go there?

    If my vagina was a gun you’d say what it holds is private. From cold dead hands we could pry; you surely would riot.

    If my vagina was a gun its rights would all be protected. No matter the body count or the children affected.

    If my vagina was a gun I could bypass security. Concealed carry laws would ensure I had purity.

    If my vagina was a gun, I wouldn’t have to beg you. I could hunt this great land and do all the things that men do.

    But my vagina’s not a gun. It’s a mightier thing. With a voice that rings true, making lawmaker’s ears ring.

    Vaginas aren’t delicate, they are muscular, magic. So stop messing with mine, with legislation that’s tragic.

    My vagina is here to demand from the source; listen to the voices of thousands or feel their full force.

  • RBS||

    She should do a sequel, If My Vagina Was a Bear Trap.

  • Fluffy||

    My right to buy books is guaranteed in the Constitution.

    My right to bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution.

    When these ladies are as up in arms about the regulatory barriers that book stores and gun ownership are subject to as they are about regulatory barriers burdening their vaginas, I will read their little poems. But not before that.

  • sarcasmic||

    If my penis was a gun... Oh, wait. Nevermind.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    This is my rifle, this is my gun...

  • sarcasmic||

    This is for fighting, this is for feminist vaginas...

  • crashland||

    Nuthing fun about feminist vaginas

  • Floridian||

    I don't know. If I was single it would be fun to dress as a hipster and nail militant feminist and once the deed was done put on a Stetson and walk out. Until the arrest for the allegations of rape caught up anyways.

  • sarcasmic||

    That's why you set your phone to record before you do the deed. Then play it back to the cops to prove it was consensual.

    Like these guys did.

    Cellphone sex video clears men accused of rape as their accuser faces four years in jail

  • Floridian||

    Lucky for the guys but the crazy bitch got away with trying to destroy their lives.

  • Mr Whipple||

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    I'm sure she favors the idea that anyone can buy a gun whenever they they want to, with no checks or restrictions.

  • DJF||

    Feminists keep on saying that people should not treat them as just a collection of sex organs and then they turn around and won’t shut up about their vaginas.

  • Doctor Whom||

    Some people noticed the irony back in the days of Judy Chicago.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I was under the impression that all 50 states had concealed vagina carry, and even without the need for a license.

  • ||

    I believe in Texas open carry is illegal for both vaginas and firearms.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    You can open carry long guns. I'll let someone else take the comparisons from there.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    So sexist. No wonder the feminists are pissed.

  • ||

    I mean, its not the length of the gun, its the recoil when fired, right?

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Good old Vermont has open carry in both (at least in certain towns).

  • Slammer||

    Cool story. Go make me a sandwich.

  • Ted S.||

    Sounds like somebody needs to learn the subjunctive.

  • Lord Humungus||

    subjunctive subjunctive what's your function?

  • Tim||

    You can't fool me: sugarfree wrote that.

  • SugarFree||

    I don't have the free time you guys imagine that I do.

  • ||

    "...My vagina has a second name, it's M-A-Y-E-R..."

  • Rasilio||

    Is it's first name Stephanie?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    More of a holster, really.

  • Tim||

    win.

  • Apple||

    Vagina? Isn't abortion more of a uterus issue?

  • mad libertarian guy||

    If my vagina was a gun its rights would all be protected. No matter the body count or the children affected.

    Cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

  • ant1sthenes||

    Babies don't grow in vaginas.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    But pretending that when a Wymyn talks about her vagina she means anything other than legalized (and perhaps subsidized) abortion is really the idiotic claim here.

  • Lord Humungus||

    How the U.S. Helped Fund the Egyptian Coup
    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/.....-Coup.aspx

    Yet it’s clear that the money the United States has used to gain leverage over Egypt played a role in Morsi’s ouster. Former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak received $83.7 billion throughout his reign. Washington has also provided $1.5 billion to Morsi since he took office. Much of this funding was used to build up Egypt’s military, which has now removed a democratically elected president.

    “This country doesn’t have a history of democracy. We were trying to nurture a path to … an Egypt for all,” Senate Foreign Relations Committee chief Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) said Sunday. “We have to make sure the military gets a very clear message that we want to see a transition to a civilian government as quickly as possible.”
  • Lord Humungus||

    Houtong Cat Village, Taiwan
    http://www.amusingplanet.com/2.....aiwan.html

    As the coal mining industry began to fall into decline in 1990, development in Houtong became progressively worse. Young residents started to move out of town to look for other opportunities, and only a few hundred residents remained. The once prosperous mining industry fell into ruins and was lying so for decades.

    Things took an unexpected turn sometime around 2008, when a cat lover organized a team of volunteers to give the neighborhood’s abandoned cats a better living environment. They posted the cats’ pictures on the web and received an overwhelming response from other cat lovers. Visitors' raves on local blogs drew more cat lovers to this place who came to photograph the cats or fondle and frolic with them. Soon Houtong became a hotbed for cat lovers and amateur photographers. Today, the dilapidated mining town and the 100-odd felines that roam the streets are drawing thousands of tourists during weekends.
  • AuH20||

    Can't cat bites do all sorts of nasty shit to do you?

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    Bites, who knows? Scratches on the other hand...

    /Ted Nuget

  • Floridian||

    Cats have curved fangs that can cause a wound to trap bacteria leading to cellulitis which can require a fasciotomy or amputation.

  • Enough About Palin||

    I had a cat bite through my thumb in '88. Despite being dosed with high-powered antibiotics, it drained puss for seven weeks straight.

  • RickC||

    Cats breed, well like cats. How do they keep the population at 100-odd?

  • ||

    One cat leads to another....and another, and another....

  • ||

    This one is not amused by the attention.

  • Caleb Turberville||

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....-survives/

    So, apparently, Barnes and Noble will survive because at many universities where they operate, they have a "monopoly" on the high, over-priced textbooks that students have to buy.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    I can't wait for Amazon to crush that market

  • ||

    I did my part in 2007-10 by buying foreign versions from Amazon for 1/2 or less price. Fuck the bookstores. I can't wait for them to die.

  • ||

    The Eastern Economy Editions are the best. I bought almost all of my CS books used from India.

  • T||

    Yeah, B&N entered the college bookstore market at my alma mater when I was in college. Last time I rolled through, the two independent bookstores had closed down. So they have a lock there after driving the competition out.

    I know one of the universities in town has a B&N as the offical bookstore, and the independent just closed down this past year. They may be doing piss-poor elsewhere, but they're doing something right in this market.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    They may be doing piss-poor elsewhere, but they're doing something right in this market

    They certainly seem to have found their niche, and it's a good one. University bookstores have always been a racket, and most students won't go outside the system to look for their books.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I think there's still a good demand for the physical bookstores. Yes, people go in, browse, and buy elsewhere, but most of the time, the sale happens there.

    B&N's mistake was trying to act like a digital powerhouse, which it isn't. Their CEO came from the dot com side of the house and probably was overly focused on "transformation."

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    I think there's still a good demand for the physical bookstores. Yes, people go in, browse, and buy elsewhere, but most of the time, the sale happens there.

    I visit bookstores a lot, so most of my purchases there are impulse buys when I don't feel like waiting until I get home to order it off of Amazon. Amazon's become a good resource for me to get used copies of out-of-print books.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I like going to local bookstores and B&N, too, but I love Amazon. I've got Prime--lots of free videos, an electronic lending library, and free, two-day shipping for lots of products. Not to mention the pricing advantage they often have.

  • ||

    I am going to get Amazon Prime just because I am in the market for a new sofa and area rugs. It will make up for the cost with just one delivery of a large item.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Make sure it's eligible. Not everything is. Heavy stuff and some chemicals aren't, if I recall. Also, if the product comes from affiliates and isn't being fulfilled by Amazon, I don't think Prime applies.

    That said, most things I buy are eligible.

  • ||

    I've already looked at several sofas that are eligible.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Then what are you waiting for? It's what, $80/year? I far exceed that in the free shipping alone, not to mention movies. Watched The Avengers (finally) the other night for free.

  • ||

    I'm a lazy beyotch and the thought of dismantling and chucking my old couch (hauling it down three flights) makes me want to take a nap.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Put it on Craigslist as a free couch. Free, that is, to whomever takes it out of your place and far away.

  • ||

    Fuck yeah. I'm already queueing up 2nd day diaper delivery. The gf thinks I'm crazy for never wanting to buy toilet paper (or really any other dry good) in the grocery store again. But why? Amazon will deliver it to my door, on a schedule if I want that. Its fucking magic.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Why there's an Apple cult and not an Amazon one is beyond me, as the latter is an almost perfect company to do business with.

  • ||

    Bezos doesn't have enough ego to start a cult. He just quietly revolutionized the way American retail works.

  • Pro Libertate||

    No kidding. Back at the turn of the millennium, I had a disagreement with my CEO at the time about whether Amazon was going to be brilliantly successful or another dot com disaster. Many questioned the company back then because of their huge ad spend.

  • Mr. Soul||

    oh, there's an amazon cult. We just aren't into proselytizing. You can be assimilated.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    One cogent observation from the article:

    Here’s the thing: Bookstores, more so than movie rental and record stores, are oases in the middle of cities (and even in suburban malls). We go there to kill time, expose ourselves to new stuff, look for a gift without something specific in mind, and maybe pick up something on impulse while we’re there.

    Bookstores have sort of morphed into retail versions of libraries, and it's difficult to say that they wouldn't be missed closed down. I can't tell you how many times I've been bored and thought, "fuck it, I'll go hang out at the bookstore for a couple hours." B&N really needs to figure out how to get people like me to spend their money more often by providing a wider selection and better discount deals.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I think that's where they've missed the opportunity a bit. They're pretty popular as places to hang out, study, meets girls, whatever, but they seem to only cater to that so far. I say go all the way and improve the book selection, which has gotten worse over the years.

    Maybe they should have memberships with limited borrowing and other privileges?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Maybe they should have memberships with limited borrowing and other privileges?

    Eh, that doesn't particularly excite me, but that's not to say it wouldn't be beneficial.

    I wouldn't mind seeing a trade discount rack, similar to what Hastings is doing, where you can buy older books for $10 or less. They could probably even work out arrangements with indie bookstores to do some sort of stock trade and provide the indies with newer stock as well.

  • Rasilio||

    That and they should be actively courting book clubs, knitting groups, gaming groups and the like to use the store as a meeting place

  • Pro Libertate||

    For a short time, I had considered opening a used bookstore (some years ago). I did a lot of research, and what I learned was that you need to establish and maintain a significant on-line business as well to keep the cash flowing (some say as much as 40% of your sales) and that doing things to increase the location's social value are very good marketing tools. So drinks and food, if you can swing it, locations for people to meet, and other community building..

  • Fluffy||

    There's something dramatically wrong with the 911 article about Detroit.

    Bennington, VT has a population of 15737 and 40 police officers.

    Pittsfield, MA has a population of 44472 and 87 police officers.

    Detroit, MI has a population of 706585 and 2770 police officers.

    Detroit has more than twice as many officers per citizen than Bennington does.

    It has almost twice as many officers per citizen as Pittsfield does.

    Their claim that they lack resources to respond to calls is without merit. MAYBE you can say that Bennington is a sleepy rural town, and therefore it's not a fair comparison. But Pittsfield is a dying mill city full of poor people, and it should produce at least as many police incidents per citizen as Detroit. So what the fuck are those 2770 guys in Detroit DOING with their time?

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Making sure the vital donut and titty bar sectors remain viable.

    Oh, and multiplyerz.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    That's actually pretty much on par with Boston: 618k population and 2144 police officers.

    But of course they need more officers per person, they have to go 2 whole blocks to respond to a call!

  • Lord Humungus||

    larger area to patrol?

  • Fluffy||

    But the population density is higher, so each deployment point should cover more people, not less.

  • thom||

    Detroit is a city of less than 1 million people that is staffed up to service the 2 million people it used to have.

  • Doctor Whom||

    Their claim that they lack resources to respond to calls is without merit.

    Big-city governments' claims that they lack resources usually are.

  • Rhywun||

    Maybe the same things the huge surplus do here in NYC: harass innocents in certain neighborhoods, rifle through everyone's bags everywhere, and lots of desk duty spent thinking up new ways to entrap the civilians.

  • Rich||

    Wigs For Bald Babies The New Craze

    Next, merkins for babies.

  • Matrix||

    Jezzie's say it's too expensive to have kids today, so only the rich are doing it

    So, I guess those rich people need wigs so their babies don't look weird or something.

  • ||

    They need to visit my local Walmart. I'm pretty sure those ain't rich people slumming with their four little snot factories.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    The irony is that they probably have the "people of Wal-Mart" website bookmarked and visit it frequently.

  • Doctor Whom||

    ... while decrying classism.

  • ||

    I know plenty of people who claim to hate Walmart and that they never shop at it, except for all the times that they do, because where else are you going to get swimming trunks at 2:30 in the morning, etc., etc., etc.

  • NoVAHockey||

    . I'm never gonna own a home, kid. Here, you do it.

    horrors. one generation sacrificing for the next.

  • Zeb||

    What? They really do live in their own little world, don't they?

  • NoVAHockey||

    if none of her friends are doing it, it didn't happen.
    or if they are all doing it, it's widely popular.
    500 words later, and it's a trend piece.

  • Doctor Whom||

    The comments! The entitlement, it burns!

  • ||

    I'm afraid it will clash with young master Becket's tuxedo onesie and monocle. (And yes, there will be pictures. The gf thinks its cute.)

  • AuH20||

    Look, Brett, he's a baby. Babies get messy. Especially after they attempt their first orphan beating with their adorable, tiny hands.

  • RBS||

    Beating? My son prefers to just eat them alive.

  • ||

    http://travel.yahoo.com/photos.....slideshow/

    Glass platform lets daring visitors hover above cliffs
    An eye-catching new glass platform at Austria's Dachstein glacier lets visitors walk out on a ledge some 1,300 feet above snow-covered cliffs. The area has long been a year-round destination for adventure seekers.

    ----------------

    Shit, son -- don't be doing this if you're as drunk as a Reasonoid.

  • sarcasmic||

    No thanks.

  • Zeb||

    That is cool. I want to go there.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Wicked. They have something like that at the Grand Canyon, I think. Saw a picture, anyway.

  • SweatingGin||

    Isn't that the platform where Picard and Kirk teamed up to fight Malcolm McDowell?

  • Matrix||

    Not sure if already discussed
    Family booted from home by police are suing with rare use of 3rd Amendment
    Libs like to call the AR-15 a "weapon of war" and the police use them all over the country. So, should they not be classified as soldiers?

  • ||

    They should get Balko to testify.

  • ||

    Who are the police at war with? Punk-ass motherfuckers.

    Fuck the police.

  • ||

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/a.....-rand.html

    Like Father, Like Son: Ron Paul Passes the Neo-Confederate Baton to Rand

    The two have campaigned extensively for each other, though Rand was conspicuous in his absence at the launch of his father’s think tank earlier this year.

    As Rand Paul’s national profile continues to rise, one question has dogged the Republican senator from Kentucky: Is he is father’s son, ideologically speaking, or his own man? Or, to put it more bluntly, how far has the apple fallen from the extremist tree?

    There are two probable answers. Perhaps Rand is indeed an independent thinker who, while sharing the broad, small government and non-interventionist leanings of his dad, is not a crank. Or, Rand is indeed a crank, yet one whose ambitions outweigh his ideological convictions. In other words, Rand knows that, in order to succeed on the national stage—he is widely expected to make a run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016—he can’t let his freak flag fly.

    ------

    Astronomical Retard Alert -- Possibility of Permanent Brain Damage.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Some douchebag on MSNBC was pushing this line of bullshit last night.

    They must really be afraid of Rand.

  • ||

    They are. Imagine if he gains national clout and manages to get the RNC behind him.

  • John||

    They are terrified. Observe the double standard at work. Obama's past was totally off limits. Every single person Paul ever met or talked to is going to be taken as a reflection of his true character.

  • NoVAHockey||

    i'm tempted to send him my resume. "who does your health policy? I think it should be me."

  • John||

    Me too. If I had any faith he could win, I would be writing him checks and volunteering and trying to get a political appointment out of the deal.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    Citizen Nothing, White House Press Secretary. Has a nice ring to it.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "At a press conference, Rand said that the Confederate Avenger was 'just some guy who lives in my neighborhood.'

    "Rand claimed that the Avenger's cries of 'G-- D--- America' were perfectly acceptable in context, and that he hasn't set off bombs in public places in years..."

    Wait, wrong story.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Rand said he could no more denounce the Avenger than he could denounce his racist grandma .... or something.

  • ant1sthenes||

    He should just claim he never realized it was the same guy, once he mussed up his hair and put on glasses.

  • Hyperion||

    Check out the article on HuffPo claiming that Rand is a racist, just like his dad, with about 1000 comments of rabid proglotards agreeing that it must be true.

    Strangely missing, is the story about Obama ordering government employees to snitch on each other.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Rand really scares a lot of people. I heard a few minutes of a radio show last night where some guy was trying to guess the odds of who would get the 2016 nomination. He had Jeb Bush (who doesn't appear to be running) and Chris Christie high, then went through a bunch of names and had Paul at 50-1. He may have a struggle ahead of him, but he's not 50-1. Not right now he's not.

    What could hurt Paul is Cruz running. No one else seems like a very popular choice.

  • NoVAHockey||

    I would have said McDonnell in VA. but apparently his family decided to loot the governor's mansion. or so the Post would have you believe.

  • ||

    A Paul / Cruz ticket would be interesting. I would love to see how the media would react to that.

    What would also be interesting is if Rand Paul picked Gary Johnson as his running mate - AFTER the Republican Convention.

    It would be fun to see the Republican Establishment freak "What? He actually is a libertarian?"

  • John||

    He would never choose Johnson. He would choose someone like Cruz who would appeal to the base and motivate Republicans.

  • From the Tundra||

    Interesting. It's not just the lefties, tho. From Ace of Spades last night:

    I've wanted to unreservedly like Rand but have ended up staying a bit wary of him - mainly because I'm afraid he had a bit too much of his father's kookiness in him as well as his father's tendency to surround himself with questionable people with rather disreputable views.

    Rand is a true uniter. I like this guy more every day.

  • Rich||

    A 5.7m (19ft) python fell from the ceiling of a shop in Australia.

    Looks like ifh has been up to her pranks again.

  • ||

    Shit. That was supposed to end up in her ceiling. I'm suing Mounty Python for providing me with a defective one.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    Hey?! Mounty Python only serves the yummiest python-on-a-stick. You want live python or python sushi, look elsewhere!

  • ||

    Well shit. You mean that one "fell off the back of the truck"? Pro Lib promised me it was special trained to seek out libertarian Australians and... Oh. Shit. How could he have possibly trained it for that? Good scam, old chap. Fool me once, shame on me.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Well, we don't serve live python, but python sushi is on the menu.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    Oooh, look like I need an updated menu!

  • Mr Whipple||

    Adam Kokesh raided

    Days after Adam Kokesh staged an open carry protest by loading a shotgun in Washington DC, “storm trooper” police raided the former Marine’s home last night, smashing in his door and deploying a flash bang grenade before arresting Kokesh.
  • Mr Whipple||

  • Ted S.||

    You're linking to Infowars?

  • ||

    I don't always agree with all of their theories but I must agree with those who say it is more accurate than 99% of U.S. Media outlets. That isn't saying much but suffice it to say I trust Infowars more than the NY Times, Fox News, CBS News, NBC News, ABC News, The War Street Journal, and most other "mainstream" media sources.

  • Mr Whipple||

    It has video of the local news coverage.

  • SIV||

    I say the same thing about The Atlantic

  • ||

    SIV, I used to subscribe to The Atlantic - I like the quality of the writing if not always the point of view. I might subscribe again on my payday.

  • RBS||

    Save your money. They went full Obamatard during the election and haven't looked back.

  • ||

    RBS,

    Thanks, I haven't picked up a copy for over 12 years.

  • squarooticus||

    The Atlantic's article from 2009 on the true cause of high health care costs is still the gold standard.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/mag.....er/307617/

    It basically describes in advance why Obamacare will raise costs rather than reduce them. I expect to read it again in ten years and marvel at its prophecy.

  • ||

    If the armed march had gone ahead, imagine what would have happened had DC cops and the feds opened fire on the crowd.

    Monstrous clusterfuck ensues.

  • ||

    How dare he exercise one of the rights protected by the Bill of Rights! Who does he think he is? [scoff] A U.S. Citizen?

  • Caleb Turberville||

    http://www.timesdaily.com/news.....ffe60.html

    The FDA warns that sunscreen "can ignite."

  • ||

    Wat? Spray propellants are flammable?

  • Rich||

    Among the FDA's safety suggestions:

    Do not apply flammable products to yourself or someone else near an open flame.

    Serious question: What does the FDA do that justifies its existence?

  • ||

    Absolutely nothing, and it does plenty that make its existence utterly unjustifiable.

    Fuck the FDA.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    I worked in an auto parts warehouse one summer and, though it wasn't the FDA, there were fire extinguishers in stock that, I swear to Zod, had the "Do not use near open flame" warning on them.

  • ||

    http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/.....-steroids/

    Local CBS Cleveland is 2 for 2 this week!

    “Honestly, and this may go against what some people think from an ethical stand point, I think it was the better game. At the end of the day when people are paying their $80, $120 whatever it may be, to buy their ticket and come watch that game, it’s almost like the circus is in town. They are paid to be entertained. They wanna see some clown throw a fastball 101 mph and some other guy hit it 500 feet. That’s entertainment. You’re paying to be entertained.”

  • Ted S.||

    Chicks dig the long ball.

  • ||

    "Quit trying to strike everyone out. Throw more ground balls, be more democratic."

  • Rasilio||

    "Are you not entertained!!!!!!"

  • ||

    "More American voters view Edward Snowden as a whistleblower than a traitor."

    Good to know there is still SOME sanity left in this country. It is also good to know more Americans are ignoring the Military-Industrial-Complex-Owned media.

  • John||

    If the Obama administration were smart, they would want Snowden to get asylum. A trial would just cause that number to rise.

  • ||

    That's what I was speculating about a few days ago. If Snowden were to return to the United States and proclaim that he's willingly subjecting himself to despotic persecution in the name of liberty, I wonder whether support for his leaks would rise.

  • John||

    It would. And a public trial would give him a platform. They screwed the pooch by charging him with espionage rather than just ordinary unlawful communication of classified information. The communication statute is strict liability. The government doesn't have to prove anything beyond the fact you revealed the information. That statute covers when you tell your wife.

    But the espionage statue requires the government to prove that either US interests were harmed or your leaking of the information was done for the benefit of a foreign power. Saying that you leaked the information to bring illegal activity to the public's attention is a defense to that charge. If you were only revealing illegal activity, then US interests were not harmed and it wasn't done for the purpose of benefiting a foreign power.

    So if there is a trial on that charge, Snowden will get a platform.

  • ||

    I don't think he would live long enough to get a fair trial.

  • T||

    Sure he would. He'd be old and grey before his pre-trial detention was over.

  • crashland||

    Saying if the Obama administration were smart is like saying if not for the laws of physics we could all fly to the moon.

    Obama should simply issue a blanket pardon to Snoweden if he comes home and brings the stuff he took back and thank him for forcing some of the transparency Obama promised. Turning a shit situation into a win, but no, witches must be burned.

  • John||

    They are complete idiots. They are not even smart thugs. They are the Aaron Hernandez of political thuggery.

  • CatoTheElder||

    I'm almost certain that Snowden would be suicided in a US prison before trial.

    There's no way he would get a public trial.

  • John||

    No he wouldn't. They didn't suicide Bradley Manning. They would not suicide him.

  • Caleb Turberville||

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....an-energy/

    "Bad News" Fossil Fuels Are More Than Keeping Up With Clean Energy

  • Caleb Turberville||

    More subsidies for clean energy!!!!!

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I know we like to talk about student loans a lot, so today I would like to describe mine in the following manner:

    THERE ARE FOUR DIGITS!

  • ||

    http://travel.yahoo.com/photos.....slideshow/

    Eerily beautiful abandoned places
    A ship graveyard in Mauritania, a picturesque 16th century Italian village, a once-grand train station — we can't help but be mesmerized by these mysterious and beautiful abandoned places around the world.

    ------------

    Oh, Detroit!

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Uh.... yeah?

  • ||

    I was emphasizing the tragedy of its demise by being dramatic.

  • Lord Humungus||

    my wife just graduated from law school - I'm seeing a monthly student loan that will equal the house I'm renting. Goodbye stereo/hobby/fun/hooker/blow money.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    My girlfriend's is now almost double her rent.

  • ||

    Hopefully after she passes the bar, the resulting paycheck will allow you to waste the rest of your adulthood as a kept man.

  • Lord Humungus||

    she passed the bar... now she's job hunting... and job hunting...

    now it looks like I'm going to pay for putting her into her own practice.

  • Pro Libertate||

    The job market for new lawyers is horrific. So putting out a shingle might not be the worst idea, at least for now.

  • Lord Humungus||

    yeah, that's what I'm hoping. At least she'll have a chance to make enough to cover her expenses + loan. She does have several contacts within the lawyer community, so perhaps things will work out. *crosses fingers*

  • Pro Libertate||

    Well, there are jobs out there, but she'll likely have to pay her dues. What kind of law does she want to practice?

  • Lord Humungus||

    the kind that makes money ;)

    family law, some crim, non-profit org, drunk driving,

  • Pro Libertate||

    Oh, okay. That's good for a solo practitioner, especially since she's obviously willing to go to court. If she's willing to handle just about anything that doesn't take a specialist, she can probably build a decent business.

    Does she speak Spanish?

  • Lord Humungus||

    no, but I suggested it to her - her French is passable though. If we ever get invaded by the Frenchies, it'll be useful.

  • Pro Libertate||

    She could represent Haitians, I suppose. Or renegade Québécois.

  • DontShootMe||

    Jobs for lawyers are drying up, fast. My wife is holding on to her job for dear life. Fortunately the law school loans were taken care of a few years ago.

    Good luck on the job hunt. It's gonna be tough.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    Let us try again...how many digits do you see?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    My wife asked me the other day whether going back for my PhD would be useful, since it might open more doors in my job program and allow me to write about some things that I don't have to do at work.

    I said to her that after paying off my student loans last year, I really don't want to put that gorilla on my back again. I'm already paying off our two cars and she's going through a master's program for special ed, so I can't really see the point of taking on even more debt.

  • VG Zaytsev||

  • crashland||

    And has to pay to have his nuts squeezed...

  • Ted S.||

    He's not nuts. He's evil.

  • BakedPenguin||

    The fucking Steamroller Pimptroller is also a piece of shit.

  • John||

    http://www.thetruthaboutknives.....x-cutters/

    Asiana passengers almost burned to death because no one had a knife to cut off their seatbelts.

  • AuH20||

    Goddamn techno-libertarians!

    For Lacy and the rest of the techno-libertarian goon squad, it's a matter of moral progress. The BART strike is yet another case study in the failure of public goods—fresh agar for startups to colonize. Is college unaffordable? Go to an internet school. Or don't go at all. Subway unavailable because of a labor dispute? Just take a private car, dialed in via iPhone app.

    "It’s too bad no one is working on disrupting BART," she pouted in a recent post, her head surely spinning with dreams of equity-hungry Stanford dropouts dynamiting tunnels through mountainsides.

    But it’s not in PandoDaily wherein Lacy’s views have been laid most bare. A recent quote provided to NPR in regards to BART problems shows that Lacy isn’t just anti-labor, but anti-reality:

    “If I had more friends who were BART drivers, I would probably be very sympathetic to their cause, and if they had more friends who were building companies they would probably realize we’re not all millionaires, and we’re actually working pretty hard to build something. People in the tech industry feel like life is a meritocracy. You work really hard, you build something and you create something, which is sort of directly opposite to unions.”

  • AuH20||

    A meritocracy! A meritocracy, in which anyone with a dream, a rarified education in computer science, and the kindness of a millionaire investor can make it. Not only does Lacy believe in this startup utopianism, she thinks ordinary members of the labor force are “directly opposite” to what she and her friends want to accomplish. If you’re not working “really hard” to make the next superfluous app, you’re standing in their way. These regulars are just obstacles, not actual humans—not even worth the title of consumer.

    Fortunately Lacy isn't friends with any of the slobs who spend their days operating (or riding!) the trains instead of engineering a website to make the trains obsolete—so their needs don't register with her. Her friends are on the other side, in the industry she's ostensibly covering. "We," not "they." She’s one of them—they’re just like her, and everyone else is just a clog in the disruption stream.

    And so it doesn’t matter that she rails against public transit on a website that shares investment money with Lyft, a startup that helps San Franciscans hire their fellow residents as chauffeurs.

  • John||

    Maybe I am being dense, but I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. Is it that Lacy is wrong to develop aps that allow people to avoid trains?

    Why can't liberals write clearly? I know it is because they can't think. But what a convoluted mess that is.

  • AuH20||

    Yes, she is wrong. Because the app hates poor people, or something.

    Also, John, c'mon, it's Cali Liberals. They love their TRAINZ!!!

  • John||

    Every person poor or rich I know has a cell phone. And most of the people who take cabs are poor. If you are poor and live to the city, you probably don't own a car and the only way to make a decent trip to the grocery store is by cab. These sorts of aps are a godsend to poor people. If you are 70 year old woman, you are not able to haul your groceries on a train. You get them delivered or more likely take a cab to the store and back.

  • Zeb||

    Uh, yeah. Unionized public sector workers are not "ordinary members of the labor force". Ordinary workers have to look for another job if they don't like what they are getting paid and don't get to fuck up transportation in a whole city to get what they want.

  • ||

    If only they (technolibertarians) of the Californian variety were more able to make the leap from bits to atoms with regard to freedom.

  • Caleb Turberville||

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/healt.....es-a-catch

    So, if you're planning on enrolling in the Obamacare exchanges, your best best for financial assistance is to apply for a subsidy rather than the tax credit.

  • Slammer||

  • Slammer||

    ^ Canadian burns American flag

  • Pro Libertate||

    Hate crime? Really, those all need to come off of the books.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Two Democrat members of Congress want to establish a national park on the moon."

    And they wonder why people call them "moonbats"!

  • John||

    They just want to protect all of that incredible flora and fauna on the moon from being exploited by corporations.

    This actually shows what is behind the mask of the greens. The moon is a lifeless rock with not so much as an atmosphere. Yet, here we have two greens who are terrified someone might go there and make some money.

  • Tim||

    Forget fracking, fight big He3!

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    I can't wait for them to find fossil fuels on Mars so I can go frack it.

  • Zeb||

    Yeah, if they really care about pollution and habitat destruction and all that, they should want industry to move to the moon if possible, where they can pollute and exploit resources as much as they want to without bothering a single living thing.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Ha! We'd be destroying the viewshed, the natural state of the moon, the perfection of dust and nothing. It would still be a travesty to them.

  • Tim||

    Fight Lunar Climate Change!

  • Pro Libertate||

    Fuck that. I say terraform the Moon. People talk about terraforming Mars, but it's too far away. Yes, the lower mass could be a problem, but it's right there. Look!

  • Zeb||

    If I were king of the world, I'd take all of the nuclear weapons and shoot them at the moon in such a way that "FUCK YOU" was spelled in giant letters visible to all humanity.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I see you've meet the urkobold.

  • RBS||

    Why do you want to give the Space Nazis on the Dark Side superpowers?

  • T||

    Because the battles against my army of lab grown supermen will be epic when they come back.

  • Zeb||

    They're not Nazis, they are Chinese communists. Everyone knows that.

  • KDN||

    Or a giant laser, Chairface Charlie.

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    +1 Tick

  • DontShootMe||

    "SPOON!"

  • KMA Too||

    I thought it was Chairface Chippendale...

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Plus, we're a nonnative species there.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Mother Luna approves of this message

  • AuH20||

    What men want, America delivers

    So much of our culture caters to giving men what they want. A high school student invites model Kate Upton to attend his prom, and he’s congratulated for his audacity. A male fan at a Beyoncé concert reaches up to the stage to slap her ass because her ass is there, her ass is magnificent, and he wants to feel it. The science fiction fandom community is once again having a heated discussion, across the Internet, about the ongoing problem of sexual harassment at conventions — countless women are telling all manner of stories about how, without their consent, they are groped, ogled, lured into hotel rooms under false pretenses, physically lifted off the ground, and more.

    But men want what they want. We should all lighten up.

    It’s hard not to feel humorless as a woman and a feminist, to recognize misogyny in so many forms, some great and some small, and know you’re not imagining things. It’s hard to be told to lighten up because if you lighten up any more, you’re going to float the fuck away. The problem is not that one of these things is happening, it’s that they are all happening, concurrently and constantly.

  • ||

    I don't understand. Why don't young women invite [insert attractive man] to prom? Oh, because he'd be accused of being a pedo by these same feminists if he accepted.

  • John||

    Slapping Beyonce's ass is at least an invasion of her space. Of course male pop stars have been getting assaulted and torn to shreds by female fans since Elvis and maybe Sinatra. Both Paul Mccartney and Keith Richards both say they still have an abiding fear of large groups of teenage girls thanks to spending much of their youths running for their lives from such mobs. But one guy slaps Beyonce's ass and it is somehow reflective of some larger issue.

    But the hatred of the kid who asked Kate Upton out is disgraceful. These women are so awful they think that men are these subhuman creatures who should never be allowed to speak to a woman unless spoken to. If you look at the reaction to that, it is the same reaction that would have happened in the 1940s if a black man had asked a white woman out. It is exactly the same hatred and prejudice applied to all men rather than just one race.

  • AuH20||

    Well the ogling at comicons bitch is pretty rich too. I've been to sci fi and comic conventions. There are women dressed up as Wonder Woman in basically a bra and panties (maybe a slight bit more fabric). You're telling me I'm not supposed to ogle them?

  • John||

    Women go to comicon to be ogled. A few years ago women figured out that there was this place full of guys, some of whom were cure and a lot of whom had good jobs, where you could be queen for a day. If a woman shows up in a tight super hero costume at comicon, she came there in the hopes of being hit on and ogled.

  • AuH20||

    Well it's also that now you've had a generation of women (I kind of think nerd-dom really started with the Trek conventions in the 70s. Before that, there were some sci-fi writing cons and such, but the idea of say, getting an actor to come give a talk because they'd been on a sci-fi show wasn't really common. Plus, D&D was invented in the late 70s, etc.) who were raised by nerdy dads and nerdy moms who got them into, say, Star Wars or Star Trek at an early age.

    Some of those chicks got good genes, though oftentimes you wouldn't know it by looking at their parents.

  • John||

    One of my wife's friends and her husband went to Comicon. The wife loved it and always wanted to go. If she is any indication of the quality of women who go there, it is pretty good. She is not a raving beauty. But she is tall, thin, very cute and has a fabulously fun and down to earth personality. She is pretty much everything idiots like Marcotte and the chicks on Jezebell are not.

  • ||

    Weren't there a bunch of Leia impersonators with masks whose main thing at the convention was to pull their boobs out and let guys grope them for photographs?

  • Rasilio||

    There is some of that yes, there at least were a LOT of women who went to Cons specifically because they liked the sexual attention but yes the new generation of COSplayers seems to have decided that they want to be able to dress up wearing as little clothing as they can get away with legally and it is your job to look away when you see them coming because they are doing it for their own benefit, not yours.

    On the flip side they are also correct that there is a fair amount of REALLY inappropriate comments and touching of Female COSplayers, not as much as the outroar against it implies but it is definately enough to be a problem

  • Zeb||

    You have to expect to be ogled if you dress like that, but getting upset about strangers touching you without permission is quite reasonable.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    Of course male pop stars have been getting assaulted and torn to shreds by female fans since Elvis and maybe Sinatra.

    But that's different, because patriarchy.

  • Sidd Finch||

    physically lifted off the ground

    huh?

  • AuH20||

    As opposed to, y'know, telepathically.

  • Tim||

    Most guys at those things couldn't lift themselves off of the ground.

  • ||

    It’s hard not to feel humorless as a woman

    Um, no it isn't.

    and a feminist

    Oh, I see. It's the Boolean AND. So she's right, I guess.

  • Caleb Turberville||

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article.....ook-prices

    JUDGE AT NY CIVIL TRIAL: APPLE CONSPIRED WITH PUBLISHERS TO RAISE E-BOOK PRICES

  • Caleb Turberville||

  • sloopyinca||

    Cop who should have been fired 10 years ago for participating in a series of felonies, but was given a vacation instead, is finally fired for stalking, harassing and misusing police resources. You know, the kind of stuff that a civilian gets criminally charged with.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    Hey, remember when gay marriage opponents claimed that churches would be forced to marry gay couples against their will? Turns out the opposite has been true all along (in Indiana, at least): churches couldn't marry gay couples even if they wanted to.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    I doubt that churches will be forced to perform marriages, but it's a little disingenuous to suggest that the misdemeanor law against clergy performing the weddings wouldn't be swept away with the ban on the marriages themselves.

  • John||

    A church could not refuse to perform an interracial marriage. And the implications of the DOMA decision put being gay on a par with race.

    Whether Kennedy would affirm the right to freedom of a religion over gay marriage is a good question. He probably would but it is no guarantee. And if the court goes majority liberal before such a decision is made, it won't matter what Kennedy does.

    I think what you will see is churches in some states and circuits forced to perform gay marriages depending on the opinions of the courts in those jurisdictions. I could see the court taking the issue up or refusing cert and just leaving the split where it is.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    Do, say, the Bible or Koran contain prohibitions of interracial marriage? I think if that were a longstanding part of the religious teaching, rather than an ad hoc subterfuge, I'm not so sure that a church would be forced to perform such a wedding.

    It's possible that some circuits will, at some point, try to force churches to perform gay weddings. I doubt it, but given crap like Wickard and Korematsu, it's impossible to set firm bounds on the judiciary's idiocy and overreach.

  • John||

    I have no doubt that the California Supreme Court will. They will think nothing of stepping down and giving a state approved interpretation of religion. Courts in other states will not be so insane. But in some states they will be.

    What they will also do is find some kind of state support to bootstrap the control on. Maybe the Church operates a charity that works with the local welfare department or has marriage classes in the local community center. There will be something that will give them the public nexus to force it to happen. Using government force to force society to accept gay marriage has always been the end game here.

  • sloopyinca||

    You don't live out here, John. The California Supreme Court knows if they go down that road, their elected liberal brethren will completely lose the black vote and the Catholic (read: Mexican) vote. You'll end up with a serious split in the party and the GOP will be able to step in and stop some of their real progressive projects like HSR, their housing schemes and the water distribution system.

    No way do they go the full distance on gay marriage. They know the consequences because they know who voted for Prop 8.

  • John||

    That is a valid point. I hadn't thought of that.

  • Killazontherun||

    Even though gay marriage is a new standing tradition, I don't see the social value in forcing gay churches to marry straight people. That is just the height of intolerance.

  • John||

    I see no value of it either. But you have to remember, the liberals who got behind gay marriage don't care about gay marriage. They just see it as a tool to use to stick it to people they don't like.

  • robc||

    Do, say, the Bible or Koran contain prohibitions of interracial marriage?

    The Bible is filled with "interracial" marriages.

    I have no clue on the Koran.

  • KDN||

    I doubt there's a prohibition on it, but it sure seems like the Arabs don't particularly like interbreeding with Africans. I do recall reading the writings of some 8th century Islamic scholar (this was 10 years ago and his name escapes me) that wrote about what bitch it was being black in Arabia. It included a nice little extrapolation on how environmental factors bring about evolution.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    I doubt there's a prohibition on it, but it sure seems like the Arabs don't particularly like interbreeding with Africans

    There's a lot of Arabs that don't like interbreeding with anyone outside of their own specific ethnicity (i.e., Egyptian, Palestinian, Lebanese, etc.). Tribalism runs strong and deep, even among those that have lived in the US for decades.

    My Palestinian buddy married a Palestinian girl due to family pressures, and after the marriage fell apart due to her being batshit insane, he told me that he's never marrying another Arab girl again, no matter how much guilt his family tries to put on him. There's just too much drama involved.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    Then it's a good thing I didn't suggest that.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    No, you just suggested that Indiana's making it illegal to preside over an illegal union was somehow relevant to the argument surrounding religious objections to gay marriage. The existence of that law sheds no light whatsoever on whether churches will be forced to marry gay couple against the church's will, so if you weren't trying to link them somehow why did you, well, try to link them?

  • Matrix||

    Someone could easily challenge that in court and win, I'm sure. It sounds very much against the 1st Amendment in Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech.

  • sloopyinca||

    They might get it on freedom of religion grounds, but the whole freedom of speech aspect of it died with bullshit public accommodation laws being upheld.

  • sloopyinca||

    What happens when a cop gets charged with multiple counts of Assault With A Deadly Weapon and two counts of Deadly Conduct? Why he's given a paid vacation and his boss says he "wants to get him all the help he needs". Basically the same thing a civilian gets but with less lead in their body and more pay.

  • sloopyinca||

    When is making false claims on a government employment application not a felony? Whenever they don't want it to be.

  • sloopyinca||

    OK, so you're out of vacation time and you really, really need a break. What do you do?

    I guess if you're a cop in Mississippi, you slap a woman around and then book that flight to Cabo!

  • Andrew S.||

    You know sloopy, thanks to you I'm going to have to start putting booze in my coffee in the mornings to be able to read your posts.

  • sloopyinca||

    You mean you don't already do that? Turn in your monocle!

  • ||

    I'm sure he just meant enough booze to have an effect beyond keeping him from the DTs.

  • Slammer||

  • NeonCat||

    Oh, so now he's trying to differentiate himself from George H.W. Bush?

  • Lord Humungus||

    so I'm reading this book on the battle of Khe Sanh
    http://www.amazon.com/Voices-C.....ref=sr_1_7

    I can't believe how much LBJ micromanaged the Vietnam War. And McNamara comes off as a real prick. The "Rules of Engagement" are insane too with an average of 15.5 days before a military target was approved.

  • John||

    It is amazing how badly LBJ fucked up that war. Ask yourself this, what the fuck were the Marines doing that far inland while the Army was down working with the Navy in the Mekong Delta?

    Despite all of it, the Vietnamese learned at Khe Sanh, Americans are not the French. They really thought it was going to be another Dien Bien Fu. Didn't quite work out that way.

  • Rasilio||

    Yeah the one thing everyone seems to forget about Khe San is that we won that battle (along with every other significant battle of the war)

  • T||

    Fuck Bobby McNamara. I hope he's burning in whatever hell he believed in right now, and continues to do so for eternity.

  • Mike M.||

    The inimitable Nat Hentoff.

    John Stossel, if you're reading this, I love you man, but you really need to read this Hentoff article so you'll understand.

  • John||

    Congress has to reassert itself as a separate branch of government. Our politicians have become so depraved they don't care about the very institutions in which they serve. At one time, members of Congress were adversarial towards even a President of their own party when it came to oversight and Congressional prerogative, even if it was out of purely selfish reasons. Now, they will gladly subjugate the institution to get their top man what he wants.

    Right now we effectively have two branches of government. Congress has just checked out.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    Hell, Congress has created a fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy, to make decisions so that Congress can't get blamed for those decisions. They don't really care about Congress, they care about the expansion of federal power, even if they have a less than one-third share of a much larger pie.

  • John||

    Congress has created a fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy, to make decisions so that Congress can't get blamed for those decisions.

    That sadly is very true. The game is Congress passes a vague law that allows the people who voted for it to portray it to voters however they want. The bureaucracy then defines the law enabling Congress to escape all responsibility for its effects.

    If you wanted to pass a really good amendment to the Constitution, take away the executive's power to write regulations and make all regulations have to be approved by Congress.

  • Fluffy||

    This.

    Also lump into that amendment a clause that no executive branch agency can run administrative courts.

    Give all judicial power back to the judiciary.

  • Killazontherun||

    I saw the authority theater video of the Kokesh raid. Jesus Christ. Is their a legitimate reason for them to destroy property with flash bangs and terrorize entire neighborhoods against a guy not known for violent behavior? And, no, putting someone defiant of the lowest laws of the land (public safety exceptions carved out of the Constitution) is not a legitimate excuse. One thousand cops should immediately be made examples of with court martials. That's right, if they refuse to abide by the civilian law because they think they are above it, well, there does exist an alternative in place that is used to keep non-civilians with a lawful exception to it from abusing their authority. Perhaps then, the retarded punks who make up the LEO culture will learn their proper place back at our feet.

  • Andrew S.||

    Such a raid is clearly necessary under the FYTW principle used by all federal, state and local law enforcement agencies.

  • John||

    No there is not. To me the Koresh affair and the Ruby Ridge raid are still are still the low points of government in this country in my life time. Koresh was known in the community. He jogged outside the compound all of the time. He went to town frequently. They could have arrested him without incident at any time. They just did the raid so they could show off for the TV cameras and terrorize some small group of outsiders they didn't like. That was all there was to it.

  • Killazontherun||

    And it was that time of year when agencies are PRing for more funding.

  • Rhywun||

    So my office building was roped off this morning due to a "suspicious package" found outside. The "suspicious package" turns out to be a piece of left luggage from the hotel next door. Sigh - this is how low we have sunk.

  • Lord Humungus||

    you know who else had a "suspicious package"?

  • John||

    The next mayor of New York?

  • RBS||

    Warty?

  • Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)||

    John Holmes?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    STEVE SMITH?

  • KMA Too||

  • John||

    It is amazing how paranoid they have people. You have a better chance of being eaten by a bear than you do being in a place where a bomb goes off. This is especially true of an ordinary office building. Maybe if it was the Capitol or the Pentagon or somewhere someone might want to actually blow up. But the chances of someone leaving a package bomb at an ordinary office building is statistically close enough to be rounded to zero. Pick the damn package up and see whose it is.

  • RBS||

    If someone really wanted to do some damage they'd call in a bomb threat to Longworth, wait for the staffers and members to congregate outside then kill them all.

  • John||

    Or any building really. The other thing that has amazed hasn't been tried is setting off a bomb in a really huge gathering figuring the resulting stampede would kill more than the bomb did.

  • ||

    Shit, even at the Pentagon, which IIRC is the busiest transport hub in the DC area, an unattended bag is gonna be some poor schlub's forgotten lunch 99.999999999% of the time.

  • RBS||

    Haha, when I was in law school the City shut down most of the downtown area, including the school, for a suspicious package that turned out to be a bag of cookies someone had dropped.

  • John||

    We really have stupid enemies. You don't even have to build bombs to terrorize people. Just go around New York leaving backpacks with wires hanging out of them all over. You could shut the whole city down and terrorize it as much or more than you could by building the bomb.

  • Drake||

    Until normal people get pissed off and just start tossing abandoned bags into the nearest trash barrel

  • John||

    So you build one bomb and plant a hundred fakes. Once the real one goes off, the fakes will have the desired effect for quite a while.

  • Fluffy||

    Yes, we do.

    If you have 19 guys as committed as the 9/11 hijackers, you just send them all to different states.

    On Monday you have guy #1, in NY, shoot into a school window with a hunting rifle with a telescopic sight.

    Then he calls in to the NY Times that on Tuesday California is next.

    On Tuesday you have guy #2, in CA, shoot into a school window with a hunting rifle with a telescopic sight.

    Then he calls in to the NY Times that on Wednesday Illinois and Texas are next.

    On Wednesday you have guy #3 and guy #4 shoot out school windows in Illinois and Texas.

    And so forth.

    Even if none of your shooters actually hit anyone, by week two the entire nation would be shut down and people would be utterly fucking hysterical.

    These terror guys have no sense of pacing. They need to hire writers who know how to tease people and drag things out. Maybe Lindelhof has some spare time.

  • Rhywun||

    They need to hire writers who know how to tease people and drag things out.

    Dean Koontz churns this stuff out in his sleep. Get him on it.

  • John||

    People sort of expect terrorism in big well known cities. If they really wanted to terrorize us, they would go to some small town in Iowa or somewhere. Imagine a few bombs going off at grade schools in say six different small towns spread over the country. People would go insane.

  • Rasilio||

    Even better, blow up a High School Football game in Ohio or Texas, follow it up with blowing up a mall in Iowa on Black Friday, Then Blow up a bridge in St Louis at Rush Hour on a Monday Morning, etc.

    It would be so trivially easy to take America down with terrorism if you had half a dozen brain cells and any knowledge of the American Psyche.

  • The Last American Hero||

    If they messed with a football game in one of those states, we'd probably nuke the Middle East back to the stone age.

  • sloopyinca||

    Yeah, except that you'd end up behind bars for life in no time flat.

    There probably isn't much of NYC that's not under constant government surveillance. And backpacks are subject to search at any time because "fuck you, that's why" laws put in place there post-9/11.

    NYC is a hellhole of government intrusion. And Doug Stanhope describes the people who live there perfectly.

  • John||

    Sure you would. But our enemies are looking to die for the jihad. Getting killed or locked up is a feature for them.

  • sloopyinca||

    And that's why they plant actual bombs instead of fake duds all over a city.

  • John||

    But there ends are to disrupt our society and terrorize us. And planting fakes would be more effective in achieving that.

  • sloopyinca||

    All I'm saying is that if you're gonna plant fake bombs, don't bother doing it in NYC. You'd be picked up in no time flat.

  • Sidd Finch||

    A friend wrote "test" on a Post-it note and put it on something in his office that broke. He left that thing in the lobby, where it sat untouched for a month, until someone freaked out and the bomb squad was called in.

  • Fluffy||

    I'm interested to see what Snowden and Greenwald release next.

    Greenwald keeps teasing that it's something big.

    And he seems to have thought out how to time these things, to hit Obama harder and harder and parry his deflections.

    I'm hoping - I'm really, really hoping - that Snowden somehow got evidence that the NSA rigged the Joseph Nacchio trial. So much of his material has focused on the relationship between the NSA and the telecommunications and tech industries, I'm just hoping he has one slide where the NSA talks about how much pressure they can bring to bear to guarantee cooperation.

    If they've got evidence of that - something everyone even a little bit informed suspects, but cannot prove...

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    The WP already reported that the NSA has been using the FCC to get cooperation from cable operators.

    Article

    Negotiating leverage has come from a seemingly mundane government power: the authority of the Federal Communications Commission to approve cable licenses. In deals involving a foreign company, say people familiar with the process, the FCC has held up approval for many months while the squadron of lawyers dubbed Team Telecom developed security agreements that went beyond what’s required by the laws governing electronic eavesdropping.
  • John||

    My fear is Greenwald is going to fuck it up. Greenwald is an idiot who thinks it is shocking that the US government spies on foreigners. No one cares about that. Greenwald thinks the NSA spying on foreign people is this scandal when the country sees that as the NSA's job.

    He needs to concentrate on revelations about the NSA spying on Americans in America. But I don't think Greenwald is bright enough to understand that and will continue release shit like "the US is hacking Iran" expecting anyone in the US to care.

  • sloopyinca||

    John. your blind loyalty to who signs your paycheck is showing again. Plenty of people care about the US spying on foreign nations. It's having a strenuous effect on our relationships with European allies and once it comes out that we're spying on Asian nations that can really put a hurting on us trade-wise, there's going to be some real fear that the program is going to cost us jobs, trade and create a spike in inflation.

    Besides, I think most Americans, deep-down, think our nation is better than the paranoid Nixonian spying apparatus we're implementing on our friends.

  • robc||

    I have to agree with John on this one.

    Israel stole nuke materials from the US. It sucked, but did it strain our relationship? Not really.

    We spy on allies, bfd, they spy on us too.

  • John||

    Plenty of people care about the US spying on foreign nations.

    No they don't. They expect it. The CIA never got into trouble spying on foreigners. That is what it was created to do. It only got into trouble when it was thought to spy on Americans.

    The whole point of intelligence law and the intelligence community is to spy on foreigners. That is what the American people expect from their tax dollars being spent there.

    You really think that the US hacking Iran and delaying them getting the bomb is some kind of scandal? Or the NSA listening to the Germans to figure out what is going on in their government? You are nuts. You can barely get 60% of the country to care about the NSA spying on Americans. If you think you are going to get anyone but the fringe to care about them spying on foreigners, you are living in a dream world.

  • sloopyinca||

    I'm talking about creating pressure from the international community, not from the American people. Our government doesn't give a fuck about the opinions of the American people. If they did, we wouldn't have shit like PRISM or the secret FISA courts being used in the first place.

    I'm talking about having some sanctions on us from our trade partners as punishment for what we're doing to them. That might get the American people or our government to wake up and realize there are consequences to what we're doing.

  • robc||

    They dont care either.

    They would have to stop their foreign spying if they made a big deal about it.

  • sloopyinca||

    I don't think there are too many nations out there running a PRISM-like program on entire populations of other nations.

  • robc||

    But there are a handful, and they are allies. And helping us with PRISM.

  • sloopyinca||

    And their citizens appear to be just as outraged as ours are.

    Now, wait until South Korea, China, Vietnam, Japan and some of the people who have a huge trade imbalance with us find out we've been doing the same to them without their government helping us out. That's when the shit will hit the fan.

  • Fluffy||

    Strictly speaking, John, in other contexts we have asserted that malicious hacking undertaken by states with the goal of destroying infrastructure is an act of war.

    That means that if we created Stuxnet, we undertook an act of war.

    I don't remember Congress passing a declaration of war against Iran, do you?

    Undertaking an act of war against a state with whom no state of war exists should be a crime.

  • John||

    John, in other contexts we have asserted that malicious hacking undertaken by states with the goal of destroying infrastructure is an act of war.

    It is debatable how serious a cyber attack has to be to be an "act of war". Stuxnet is certainly a grey area. But if the worse thing Greenwald can pin on Obama is that he hacked the Iranians and set back the efforts to make a nuclear bomb, I think Obama is in good shape.

    I realize Greenwald is insane an actively supports the Iranians. But few people in world share his affinity. And no one, including the governments of Europe and the Middle East is upset by the fact that the US and Israel hacked the Iranians.

  • sloopyinca||

    I realize Greenwald is insane an actively supports the Iranians.

    Are you fucking retarded? The man is teetering on socialism, not Islamist Fascism.

  • John||

    The man is teetering on socialism, not Islamist Fascism.

    He doesn't teter on socialism, he is a socialist, which is another form of fascism. And yes, Greenwald is a self hating Jewish leftist. He actively supports Islamist regimes. The fact that Greenwald, being gay would be one of the first people Islamists would kill, is the crazy part.

    Basically Greenwald has never seen an Islamic atrocity he can't excuse or blame on the West and never seen a Western response he didn't find distasteful. The reason I think is that in the hard left circles Greenwald runs him being a Jew makes him immediately suspect, especially in Europe. So Greenwald makes up for that by being more Catholic than the pope when it comes to supporting Islamist regimes, which the European Left does with abandon.

  • sloopyinca||

    I care less about his motivations than his revelations. And as far as I'm concerned, his revelations are pretty fucking damning to our government and our meddlesome foreign policies that do no good other than to fill the coffers of defense contractors and the pockets of tax-sucking pubsec employees. I can see why your opinion is different.

  • Gray Ghost||

    Strictly speaking, John, in other contexts we have asserted that malicious hacking undertaken by states with the goal of destroying infrastructure is an act of war.

    The industrial sabotage of the Soviet giant natural gas pipeline, using compromised PLCs, was a lot more damaging than Stuxnet, and yet wasn't viewed publicly by the Soviets as an act of war.

    It is true that we'd have a different view if the Iranians, say, triggered valves at one of the myriad petrochemical plants along the Gulf Coast to explode and send a cloud of noxious crap into an adjoining city.

  • paranoid android||

    You're being grossly unfair to Greenwald, I think. You are claiming that he supports Islmic regimes based on the fact that he doesn't write enough articles condemning them--do you have any actual quotes of him voicing support for these governments? He's often said himself that the reason he focuses so much on abuses and misdeeds by the U.S. and other western countries is that he has some amount of influence and a platform there. If he was just one more Westerner among legions condemning human rights abuses in Iran, who would give a fuck? Nobody.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    The European and Asian nations are shocked, shocked that spying is going on in the world. Maybe they don't spy on other nations but that seems like a fairly incredible claim.

  • sloopyinca||

    I'm not saying their outrage is justified, but I am saying that they will use the revelation of our spying on their people as a bargaining chip against us.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    You've never struck me as someone in favor of giving in to faux outrage, but it sounds like that's what you're tending toward here.

  • sloopyinca||

    I'm just saying what I think will be the reaction from the international community. And yes, much of it will be faux outrage. But in my opinion, some of it is totally justified. You don't spy on other nations' civilian populations. It's always been out of bounds. Tom Clancy told me so.

  • Sidd Finch||

    Plenty of people care about the US spying on foreign nations.

    the fuck?

  • sloopyinca||

    You don't think people care that the civilian populations of other countries are being spied on en masse by our government?

  • Sidd Finch||

    No.

    Are you autistic?

  • robc||

    He needs to concentrate on revelations about the NSA spying on Americans in America.

    This.

  • sloopyinca||

    I disagree. We need international pressure from our allies to stop this bullshit spying on their people and infringing on their national sovereignty. The cocksuckers in charge haven't given a fuck about the opinions of Americans as it applies to the growing security state since 9/11. Perhaps a few trade sanctions and diplomatic incidents will jar the government into reality.

  • John||

    We need international pressure from our allies to stop this bullshit spying on their people and infringing on their national sovereignty

    And since our allies and every nation in the world is doing exactly the same thing, I am sure they are going to be real interested in having this debate.

    Spying is what nations do. Do you really think it is a good idea for the government to have no intelligence? You thin it would be better if the President and DOD had no idea what the Chinese are doing and what their intentions are? Just let them guess?

    Good intelligence breeds understanding between nations of each other and lowers the risk of miscalculation and thus lowers the risk of war. Things like the Korea War started because one side misjudged the other's intentions.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    Do you believe that our allies spy on us and other of our allies?

  • sloopyinca||

    I'll address this to both you and John, because I think you're on the same page here.

    There's a difference in spying on another government and spying on their peoples' daily lives. Spying on governments has been acceptable practice for centuries. You play, and if you get caught there are a few words and everything goes back to normal. But, if you get caught spying on the daily actions of their entire civilian population and are collecting massive piles of data on their people (as opposed to their military, government or spies), I can't see that going over very well.

    I know our government wouldn't treat kindly a nation that was spying on every person in St Louis, MO, but would likely just PNG the spy who gets caught with his hand in a CIA cookie jar.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    I see the difference, but I wonder how much of the difference between spying on the government and spying on the population is simply a matter of resources and ability as opposed to a principled decision to spy only on the government if, in fact, the spying is only against the US government. That is, I tend to think "if they could, they would" more than "they can but choose not to."

  • sloopyinca||

    Good point. But in the grand scheme, that just gives the complainers about it more ammunition: "The big, powerful USA has all this great technology, and instead of using it to make the world a better place, they use it to spy on our citizens and their own people. They need to learn that that's just wrong."

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Yeah, how dare a guy living in Brazil writing in a British newspaper focus on how this effects the civil liberties of people in other countries! Doesn't he know that only REAL AMURHICANS have rights?

  • Fluffy||

    He specifically is teasing that he has additional domestic revelations.

    You have to remember, he works for a UK based paper and is conducting a worldwide media campaign. If revelations about spying on Europe are going to sell papers, they're going to print them. If it raises the profile of the story, for Greenwald it's worth writing about.

  • John||

    That is part of it. But most of it is that Greenwald is a nut who thinks that it is scandalous that nations spy on each other, or at least the US spys on anyone. I doubt he really cares much what other nations do.

  • sloopyinca||

    This sounds like the words of someone who's pissed his boss got caught sticking his dick where it didn't belong. Greenwald hasn't said shit about any nation spying on the government of other nations. He's been all about exposing on governments spying on the civilian populations of other nations and committing acts of war by crashing computer and communications networks of sovereign countries.

  • ant1sthenes||

    I don't know. I imagine that the various allied governments are aware of it, but it still gives them leverage and makes it easier for anti-American politicians in those countries.

    Plus, it can provoke behavior like (like the Bolivian plane fiasco) that further makes the US look like an international bully with no respect for the rule of law. Which is of course the case, as USG has no more respect for international law than its own Constitution.

  • Rhywun||

    "Detroit residents, who long ago learned to rely on themselves to mow vacant lots, pick up trash and even drive themselves to emergency rooms"

    My god, it's worse than Somalia there.

  • sloopyinca||

    Dickhead thinks he should be Judge Dredd. Gets paid vacation for his petulance.

  • Killazontherun||

    Two towns south of me, in one of my in between real job periods I use to run a warehouse on the third shift. It's between the Greensboro airport and Winston-Salem so it serves as an industrial hub. Interesting nightlife in the sense of what gets traded around. I kind of love the town for that reason.

  • sloopyinca||

    My brother went to High Point. That whole area is an eclectic treat. And you can still get good deals on really high-end furniture if you know a person or two.

  • RBS||

    I have tons of family all over that area.

  • Matrix||

    I AM THE LAW!!

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Progressive Black Metal by Frogs

  • Juice||

    For a second I thought The Frogs had changed genre, but you meant Frenchies.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Yes. Hence Frogs instead of The Frogs.

  • Sevo||

    "Two Democrat members of Congress want to establish a national park on the moon."

    Great. And I'll donate one-way tickets for them both!

  • Killazontherun||

    I immediately read that headline as meaning, socialist threatened by the idea of the possible commercial exploitation of the moon want to prevent that from happening by nationalizing it, and declaring it a park. Just as their proggie forerunners did a century ago to vast tracks of America.

  • Raven Nation||

    I think there's already some kind of international treaty that makes it difficult for non-government groups to establish bases on the moon. Can't remember the exact name now.

    Of course, if someone did put a base on the moon it's hard to believe any government would actually take it out.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    If you live in Detroit anywhere, 911’s a joke in your town.

    Public Enemy was right.

  • Raven Nation||

    Missed the most important news of the morning: Australia bowled the poms out for only 215:

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/

  • KDN||

    This comment appears to be English, but the words don't actually mean anything. I'm so confused.

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